Mexico Scraps Daylight Savings Time Except Along Border (apnews.com) 37
Mexico's Senate approved a bill Wednesday to eliminate daylight saving time, putting an end to the practice of changing clocks twice a year. The Associated Press reports: Some cities and towns along the U.S. border can retain daylight saving time, presumably because they are so linked to U.S. cities. The Senate approved the measure on a 59-25 vote, with 12 abstentions. Those who opposed the measure said that less daylight in the afternoon could affect opportunities for children and adults to get exercise. The bill already passed the lower house of Congress and now goes President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador to be signed into law. The law would go into effect Sunday, when Mexico is scheduled to turn clocks back for the last time.
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It doesn't make much sense in Northern Latitudes either where sunset is 9 pm in the summer under standard time, and we don't experience a total night sky.
Edmonton July Sun Graph [timeanddate.com]
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But there's still places where it makes total sense.
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where would that be?
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Where I live.
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... and where is that, and why does it make sense for you?
Outdated, and not wanted (Score:3)
Spring ahead, and just stay there.
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Just stay at standard time, if everybody wants to wake up an hour earlier then just open and close everything an hour earlier.
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No, that doesn't work. Timetables, business opening hours: do you really want one set for summer and another for winter? It's easier to change the clocks.
The point is that summer time doesn't suit tropical and equatorial latitudes as well as it does temperate latitudes. In Australia, the state of Queensland which is in the north east of Australia and the Northern Territory do not use summer time. The southern states all use summer time. Mexico ending summer time makes sense.
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With a (what used to be) world economy, business hours are already all over the place, customer support hours don't always match your own time zone because it is 1/2 a country or world away. We already solved all those issues. People adapt.
DST is like moving the goal posts by moving the earth. It is an antiquated system, we have scheduling and computers now in everyone's po
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Of course it works, all those can change. Everything can be electronic. But if you stick with one time daylight savings or not, which is what I was really commenting about, all the schedules just have to change once.
Really I think it depends on your perspective if you want daylight saving time stay or standard time. I am talking from my perspective where I wake up quite early (3:30 am and get to work at 6) I think its early enough. Other people are not quite as crazy as me and prefer to get up earlier to ha
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"do you really want one set for summer and another for winter?"
They do that anyway on top of DST, at least here in country and up north.
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Nice handwaving, but you are totally ignoring that the start and end date/time for DST changes at the whim of Congress and requires constant work to patch timetables for computer systems
There is in fact an entire DST industry that makes a living off of our poor choice to pursue DST and if humans had any sense at all we would all just run off of UTC [yahoo.com]
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In Tokyo many shops open at 11 AM, and close around 8 PM. Apparently early morning shopping isn't a thing, outside of supermarkets and convenience stores that are often 24/7 anyway.
Japan doesn't have DST and only has one timezone, so shops in the far north and far south have different hours. Same with schools and offices.
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No, that doesn't work. Timetables, business opening hours: do you really want one set for summer and another for winter? It's easier to change the clocks.
The point is that summer time doesn't suit tropical and equatorial latitudes as well as it does temperate latitudes. In Australia, the state of Queensland which is in the north east of Australia and the Northern Territory do not use summer time. The southern states all use summer time. Mexico ending summer time makes sense.
A thousand times this. Whilst I've had no issue with DST, I never understood the effect when I lived in Oz. Now I live in the UK the loss of the clock changes would be catastrophic. Mid summer (BST or GMT+1) your daylight hours are from 4 AM to after 11 PM (twilight to twilight), mid winter (GMT) it's 8 AM to 4 PM. Yes, there is a near 8 hours difference in daylight between December and July. Now if the clocks didn't change we'd either have the sun coming up at 3 in the summer or not up until 9 in the wint
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Just stay at standard time, if everybody wants to wake up an hour earlier then just open and close everything an hour earlier.
I totally agree, except don't change anything. Just leave it all the fuck alone.
Good for Mexico (Score:3)
Anyone between the Tropic of Cancer and Tropic of Capricorn gets zero help from DST, other than lining your clock up with countries who did do it (like the USA).
Those who opposed the measure said that less daylight in the afternoon could affect opportunities for children and adults to get exercise.
I think they meant, "It makes it less convenient for adults to supervise children." The kids don't care.
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What about electric light?
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What about it? Lighting changes the requirements for kids to play ball on from 'an empty field' to 'an empty field with sufficient lighting'. That is much, much, more expensive. Or, we could do it in a totally green manner and use solar power direct from the sun with no intervening, environmentally unfriendly, steps.
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Just start the game an hour earlier. That's all that DST does.
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That is not 'all' DST does. DST also moves dinner time an hour earlier, so the kids still get to eat. And it moves the parents work end time an hour earlier so they can be there to prepare dinner. And it moves the parents business hours an hour earlier so there are no problems there. And so on.
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Fuck you and your kids, don't change the time twice a year.
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lol, sounds like drug war justification... "Think about the children"
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Wait what? (Score:2)
This year? That will be a logistical nightmare.
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The law would go into effect Sunday, when Mexico is scheduled to turn clocks back for the last time.
The US and Mexico (and much of the world) are currently in Daylight Saving Time. On Sunday, Mexico (and much of the world except the US, thanks to lobbying by the US candy industry) will return to Standard Time. Thus, there is no logistical nightmare for this weekend's change for Mexico: it will happen as planned. Everyone who tracks Mexico time then has about six months to get ready to mark that they will not change again in the Fall.
Not a fan of Daylight Savings time (Score:2)
But this seems a bit complicated.
Then again it's not as ridiculous as China's one Time Zone for the entire country.
Makes sense, it's a higher latitude thing (Score:2)
As there is less of a difference in the length of the day over the course of the year as you approach the equator, Daylight Savings becomes a solution in search of a problem, and it's worse than the problem it purports to solve. I'm not sure it makes sense at any latitude in the modern world, but it never really made sense near the tropics.
For more daylight in the afternoon... (Score:2)
Change the start/stop times of school. You were doing the same thing with the time change on one day anyway. Now you must prove it's useful/effective for the effort.
No, morning sun is healthier. (Score:2)
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Morning light is important, but so is evening light. Maybe your idea of 'relaxing after the workday' doesn't involve being outdoors, but for a lot of people it does. What does not help my mood is when the sun comes up at 4:30AM, long before I need to get out of bed. If only someone could come up with a method for having sufficient sunlight in the morning when the days are short, but extending the sunlight further in the evening when the days are longer. Nah, we could never come up with such a system.