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The Almighty Buck Bitcoin

Bitcoin Addresses Tied To Defunct Canadian Crypto Exchange QuadrigaCX Wake Up (coindesk.com) 42

More than 100 bitcoins tied to the defunct Canadian crypto exchange QuadrigaCX were transferred out of cold wallets thought to be beyond anyone's control over the weekend, after sitting dormant for more than three years. From a report: The company's bankruptcy trustee, Ernst and Young, did not initiate the transfers, CoinDesk has learned. QuadrigaCX went bankrupt in 2019 after the apparent death of founder and CEO Gerald Cotten. At the time of its collapse, Quadriga was believed to have owed thousands of customers nearly $200 million in various cryptocurrencies -- a staggering failure for what was once Canada's largest crypto exchange.

EY, which is acting as the trustee for Quadriga's estate, announced in February 2019 that it lost control of about 100 BTC after mistakenly sending the coins to Quadriga-operated cold wallets that the Big Four financial services firm said it couldn't access. At the time, the bitcoin was worth around $355,000 (C$470,000).

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Bitcoin Addresses Tied To Defunct Canadian Crypto Exchange QuadrigaCX Wake Up

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  • So now even E&Y are in on the scam?

    • So now even E&Y are in on the scam?

      I think Mr. Cotton has returned from the dead. Always thought that this situation reeked of a faked death on his part.

      • So now even E&Y are in on the scam?

        I think Mr. Cotton has returned from the dead. Always thought that this situation reeked of a faked death on his part.

        Oops..... *Cotten

      • Re:WOW (Score:4, Interesting)

        by GameboyRMH ( 1153867 ) <gameboyrmh&gmail,com> on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:49AM (#63144996) Journal

        The answer to "Is Mr. Cotton still alive?" is "Are companies incorporated in the Cayman Islands up to some tax shenanigans?"

        The place he "died" is the world's top jurisdiction for faked death certificates. Points for actually having a plan to make off with the ill-gotten gains though, this guy is either the smartest or second-smartest man in the cryptocurrency industry so far, depending on how you rank everyone who stayed the hell away...

        • 100 coins is only $1.6m. If he'd managed to escape with $200m, it would be reaaaally stupid to snarf the last 1.6m and get people thinking about you again.

          • Re:WOW (Score:4, Interesting)

            by GameboyRMH ( 1153867 ) <gameboyrmh&gmail,com> on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @11:20AM (#63145038) Journal

            I can think of some reasons he may have only taken a little out:

            - Difficulty laundering even more massive amounts.
            - No pressing need for more: 1.6M is still enough to retire on.
            - Maybe he wanted to "test the waters" and see what kind of reaction a small withdrawal would get before taking bigger risks to launder larger amounts. If it brings too much heat...well at least he already has enough to retire on.

            • by narcc ( 412956 )

              1.6M is still enough to retire on

              Depending on how old your are and how long you plan to live, you'd be lucky to get a lower middle class lifestyle in an inexpensive part of the country on 1.6 million. Over 30 years, that gives you just $53,000.

              If you want to retire on 1.6 million, you'd need very low risk investments with decent returns. The days of the 3% CD are long gone, but even then you couldn't pull much more than 50k/year giving yourself a 2.5% "raise' every year.

              You can do better with a mutual fund, but your survival is now tied

              • by Anonymous Coward

                That's an incredibly American centric view. In most of the world 1.6 million is more than enough to live on comfortably for the rest of your life. This guy, if he did fake his death, is not living in America.

                • by narcc ( 412956 )

                  Well, it's 1.6 million in USD on a US site so ...

                  • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

                    So we should expect the attitude that nowhere that's not the USA exists.

                    The thread is about a Canadian who was living in the Caribbean and would be very stupid to show up in any country with an extradition treaty to the US or Canada.

                    • by narcc ( 412956 )

                      No, just that if you're using USD on a US site that you just might be talking about expenses as they relate to the US.

                      As far as living in the Caribbean is concerned, the exchange rate in the Cayman's is something like 1:1.2. It's not going to get you all that far. Fun fact: US dollars and Bahamian dollars have been 1:1 for decades.

                    • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

                      Yup, I think we agree.

              • FYI: Current rates for a 12 month CD from capitol one is sitting at 4.15%
                • by narcc ( 412956 )

                  That is good to know. I'll will be looking in to that later today.

      • Even the late don't think we're early!
    • by Tom ( 822 )

      No, E&Y are running a much larger, much more profitable scam and have for a very long time. Some crypto money is pocket change to them. They play with bigger boys. Like Wirecard...

      More likely an individual E&Y junior found the keys and decided not to wait 5 years and 2 burnouts until he is made a partner. After all, how do you "mistakenly" transfer 1.7 mio ? You'd think a company tasked with certifying proper accounting would manage to make a transfer correctly.

  • Wow this is super interesting anyway what's up with Slashdot's embargo on Twitter stories?
    • what's up with Slashdot's embargo on Twitter stories?

      I for one welcome it.

      PS: It's all on Twitter if you're interested...

    • by laxguy ( 1179231 )

      who cares, go check twitter.

      • by Nugoo ( 1794744 )
        5 of the 6 top-rated firehose stories are about Twitter, so the answer to your question is: the Slashdot audience. At this point, Slashdot's refusal to post any of them is notable enough to be a story in and of itself.
        • by laxguy ( 1179231 )

          no, its really not a story. just because you care, doesn't mean anyone else does. this news exists elsewhere, stop complaining and go find it.

  • How do we know all this? Isn't Bitcoin supposed to be anonymous and untraceable?

    • by cormandy ( 513901 ) on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @11:35AM (#63145088)
      EY has the addresses (public keys) of all the wallets which were used by QuadrigaCX/Cotten. They were being monitored for activity. EY didn’t have the private key for the wallets in question, but the public keys are enough to know how much Bitcoin they contain. Only someone with the private keys could move Bitcoin from the wallets. So the mystery is: who knows the private keys? Is it Cotten himself? Did he suddenly get a 5G signal while buried 6ft underground? Or is he still alive? Or is it a former employee or business partner? Or his widow? The fact that 70 coins went to an obfuscation service means someone knows what they are doing.
      • That's an interesting point, could the "accidental" transfer by EY have been deliberate, leave some bait lying out there and see if Cotton returns from the dead to grab it?
  • by kbahey ( 102895 ) on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @11:28AM (#63145060) Homepage

    Gerald Cotten, the Canadian who founded QuadrigaCX, was smarter than Sam Bankman-Fried founder of FTX.

    He most likely faked his own death when his crypto exchange Ponzi scheme buckled ...

    This is an early report on Quadriga founder Gerald Cotten [www.cbc.ca], and that he was a fraudster running a Ponzi scheme.

    Here is a great documentary on this whole fiasco: Dead Man's Switch: A Crypto Mystery [www.cbc.ca] (which may not play outside Canada though).

    • And now he's a rich fraudster. A few years of faking your own death is better than jail. Plus you get to keep the proceeds. Clearly I should have gotten on the crypto-currency train (as a fraudster not a victim!)
  • It sounds like $200m in total vanished/was lost, like for most of it they don't even know the wallets that were originally used to buy and store it??

    Either way, this seems weird. It could be that Cotten has burned through his cash and needed a top-up, though for all the millions he would have walked away with I don't see him being able to spend it that quickly while trying to hide.

    I wonder if someone else had access to the wallets all along and finally decided to cash out? Of course, that would imply Cotten

  • From someone with knowledge of the situation.
    "Alex, the dev at Quadriga, was instructed to send these coins while the company was under the control of Ernst & Young, three years ago. They claimed to have accidentally lost the funds by sending to defunct wallets. Now it's suddenly moving again. Shocker"
    "I have no idea who is moving them now, only who is responsible for them and who lost it in the first place"
  • and finds the hashcodes for a billion FTT coins on a piece of paper in the diary of his girlfriend.
    *scary dorky laugh*

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