US Approves World's First Vaccine For Declining Honey Bees (bbc.com) 100
The US has approved use of the world's first vaccine for honey bees. The BBC reports: The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) approved a conditional license for the vaccine this week, according to the biotech firm behind its development. It was engineered to prevent fatalities from American foulbrood disease, a bacterial condition known to weaken colonies by attacking bee larvae. [...] American foulbrood disease poses a challenge for beekeepers as it is highly contagious and has no cure. The only treatment method requires burning the colony of infected bees along with the hives and equipment and treating nearby colonies with antibiotics.
The new vaccine contains an inactive version of the bacteria that causes American foulbrood disease, Paenibacillus larvae, according to Dalan Animal health. The bacteria are incorporated into royal jelly feed given by worker bees to the queen bee, which then ingests the feed and keeps some of the vaccine in her ovaries, according to the biotech firm, which specializes in insect health and immunology. It says this gives bee larvae immunity to the disease as they hatch and reduces death from the illness. [...] Dalan plans to distribute the vaccine "on a limited basis" to commercial beekeepers and said the product would probably be available for purchase in the US this year.
The new vaccine contains an inactive version of the bacteria that causes American foulbrood disease, Paenibacillus larvae, according to Dalan Animal health. The bacteria are incorporated into royal jelly feed given by worker bees to the queen bee, which then ingests the feed and keeps some of the vaccine in her ovaries, according to the biotech firm, which specializes in insect health and immunology. It says this gives bee larvae immunity to the disease as they hatch and reduces death from the illness. [...] Dalan plans to distribute the vaccine "on a limited basis" to commercial beekeepers and said the product would probably be available for purchase in the US this year.
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Wait until your unvaxed kid gets measles and dies because you were stupid enough to not get them vaxed. Or polio, you won't mind your kid being maimed for life, yes?
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Well, aren't you special. Maybe you don't care about the immuno-compromised.
Regarding the "still being tested" Covid vaccine, RNA vaccines have been under development since the early 2000s. Even the Bush administration funded them. You seem to think the pharma companies magically pulled them out of their ass in a years time.
And if you wish proof of the their efficacy, look at the stats between the Red States and the Blue States and their rate of vaccinations. The Red States win hands down, many more of thei
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You are confusing the delivery method (mRNA) with the delivered substance (the spike protein). One has been worked on for decades. The other was being studied for bird flu, shelved, then unshelled and fast shipped for Covid.
If you can't tell the difference you don't belong in a vaccine discussion.
It amazes me that the same people who hate Trump with such a passion, blame him for everything under the sun, and give him no credit for anything, will then turn around and fall on their sword for his rushed spik
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Given that "bird flu" is an entirely unrelated group of viruses and does not have a spike protein, that would be quite a trick.
I'm sorry, please go back to scolding other people for being stupid and not knowing what they're talking about.
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Wow, way to go completely off topic, when youre losing, you shift the goal posts, not something a smart person would need to do, but of course, youre just another sockpuppet troll.
Re:Fake & Gay (Score:4, Insightful)
LOL! Well, most of what you wrote was insane nonsense. He was a lot more charitable with you than I would have been.
Here's the thing: Most people aren't n your weird little cult and don't know how to interpret your mad ravings. You anti-vax nuts are worse than those "sovereign citizens" with your alternate reality.
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It's never off topic to ask Rei when we're getting our FSD taxis.
And losing what? It's slashdot. If you're posting here and think this site matters or has a concept of winners and losers then big hint: you're not winning anything.
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Its always off topic when its not relevant to the subject, Rei posted a link showing you wrong, you just hand waved something you claim to remember, posting history is clearly available, and youve shown nothing, and are well known to be a lying troll.
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I'm well aware of the difference, but targeting a virus's proteins are kinda what vaccines do. The fact that they are on the spike is immaterial. Way to find some red herring...oh look at that blibbering humdinger in the window!
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Again: delivery method: many years, the thing delivered: new.
Have a nice day.
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I've read numerous studies about "scary" spike proteins and how "shedding" is apparently deadly.
Except none of these studies that I read seem to agree that shedding spike proteins is anything really important for most people to worry about. I just read one a few minutes ago before commenting. It seemed to be relatively impartial and just discussed the science. I had to look up a few terms to better understand the topic because I'm no expert.
I'm no virologist nor a scientist at all, but I consider myself to
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Yeah, it's going to be new when it's first approved...
How stupid are you anti-vaxers that this passes for "insight"?
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I'm not anti-vax. I am fully vaccinated for everything there's a vaccine for, thanks. Every single one of which went through the full battery of testing and standards set by the cdc/fda. Except the Pfizer/Moderna ones.
I am fully informed that the trump sponsored rush to get these things out was a freak show of scientific and medical incompetence at best and flat out fraud more likely.
How can a card carrying ultra leftist such as yourself put his future in the hands of a trump rush job vaccine made by the
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I'm not your mom. I'm sorry you're having a hard time with her. But I'm not QA and didn't tell her any of that stuff nor do I believe it myself.
My issue is strictly this: Pfizer is a known fraudulent company, they got trump to sign off on pre-buying a zillion bucks worth of their barely tested shit -and- they got him to sign off on complete legal liability protection. They could knowingly and fraudulently inject you with fucking bleach and you can't sue them, thanks to trump.
And shit made by this crimina
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I trust scientists, not Trump.
Who told you you this shit was safe?
Scientists.
Get a clue.
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Other scientists who have specialties in virology and vaccination medical also say it isn't or that it needs more testing.
So I've got a clue. A huge fact based clue bat across your face.
You're a Trump lover. There's no other answer because real science has yet to determine who should take what and under what personal life circumstances.
For example, Trump lover, did you know they did _ZERO_ testing on pregnant women at fraudulent Pfizer before pushing their shit out and telling pregnant women it was safe?
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You can always find a few nutters with credentials to push your crazy conspiracy bullshit.
Get a fucking clue.
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You can always find a lot of people with credentials who find it hard to disbelieve anything that stands between them and a paycheck, Trumpster.
I stand on the side of Science. I want to see real controlled studies of multiple demographics like happens with other drugs.
You want to rush in and see Pfizer literally make billions on their trump deal with a poorly tested drug forced into hundreds of millions of Guinea pigs. Guaranteed cash from trump. No liability risk. Just the kind of art of the deal fuck
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Maybe you should school him and share those "well respected credentials" you have.
All these anti-vaxxers live in your head rent free, huh? Maybe you might try another hollow insult that doesn't fit you so well. lmao.
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Rent Free.
Don't you have anything better to do, creepy stalker?
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Who is stalking who?
I posted on this thread before you did, Trumpster. You are stalking me. I never go out of my way to follow you or post in reply to your nonsense in particular.
You're an ad hominem spewing Trump loving troll. You haven't and can not respond to a single thing I've said. Everything I've said is a quick google search away. But you knew that, Trump lover, defending his dirty deal with Pfizer on their barely tested liability-free pre-sold drugs. Guaranteed profit from your big deal maker
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Don't know who you are but a reading class couldn't hurt you. I never said I had credentials. I have read the publications and research of people who do. You're not very bright. I've already said several times I am fully vaccinated for everything an American can get a vaccine for including Covid. So, you're just dumb. You're late to the party, haven't read the thread, have no idea what's going on and likely a sock puppet. I won't be responding to you again on this thread.
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You know I didn't reply to you, right?
How stupid are you, anyway?
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You replied to me and in that case about me numerous times. You're still a Trump lover with no facts who loves Trump's corrupt big pharma buddies.
You have no defense for your Trump loving.
My only remaining question for the moment is how much do you get paid to troll here and what other sites are you trolling for trump on? Is it really worth your time at 5pm wants a post to cover for his corruption and lies?
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You're not very bright, are you?
This is so, so, very sad...
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Who dat?
Trump lover speaks? Hi Trumpster troll!
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Endless links in here for you. And also highlights how dirty and corrupt your buddies at Pfizer are.
https://alexberenson.substack.... [substack.com]
It's all public knowledge although apparently you don't know any of it. Not surprising if you're an echo chamber resident.
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Credit really belongs to the researchers and scientists who dedicated their
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The antigen in a vaccine for an epidemic disease is always relatively new. That's because as an epidemic disease the virus is always new. Every year, we bring out a new vaccine for flu. So what you say here is true but relatively trivial.
The mRNA vaccine vector on the other hand, although they have been worked on for decades, are actually new, in the sense of being mass-market. But, again, that a drug has been worked on for decades before coming to market is also true, but relatively trivial. That's how dru
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Wait a minute, this is about a vaccine for honey bees.
"Anti-vaxxers are just creepy."
This problem will cure itself eventually.
Not Pharma, it’s Steven and Nicholas! (Score:2)
https://www.theregister.com/20... [theregister.com]
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What bees are resistant to foulbrood?
Re:Fake & Gay (Score:4, Informative)
What bees are resistant to foulbrood?
Wild bees are less affected.
African bees seem to be more resistant.
Disclaimer: My mom is a beekeeper.
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But is your mom also a lawyer?
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Clearly I was referring to domesticated bees, as the parent implied that if you have foulbrood, it means you have a weak, poorly bred bees. Which naturally raises the question: what domesticated bees are foulbrood-resistant?
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What about H1 bees?
Re:Fake & Gay (Score:5, Insightful)
For the life of me I'll never understand this notion of "antibiotics / antivirals / etc are a more natural solution than vaccines - trust your immune system!"
Vaccines *are* the "natural solution". They *are* the "trust your immune system" approach. They simply briefly present the threat to your immune system in a less hazardous form so your own immune system has the time to learn how to fight it without the pathogen trying to you them in the meantime - in the same natural means it uses to learn to fight every other threat it encounters in the world. And from there out, it's fully up to your immune system.
The entirely unnatural solution, the "I don't trust my immune system to deal with this problem" solution, is antibiotics / antivirals / etc. Taking such medications is basically saying, "Screw my immune system, I'm going to fight the invader myself with this foreign chemical that comes neither from the pathogen nor my own body, but rather some lab somewhere, probably mass-produced by genetically-engineered E. Coli in a vat or something similar."
It's so freaking bizarre that people treat antibiotics / antivirals / etc as the "go natural, trust your immune system" approach and not vaccines.
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For the life of me I'll never understand this notion of "antibiotics / antivirals / etc are a more natural solution than vaccines - trust your immune system!"
Vaccines *are* the "natural solution". They *are* the "trust your immune system" approach. They simply briefly present the threat to your immune system in a less hazardous form so your own immune system has the time to learn how to fight it without the pathogen trying to you them in the meantime - in the same natural means it uses to learn to fight every other threat it encounters in the world. And from there out, it's fully up to your immune system.
The entirely unnatural solution, the "I don't trust my immune system to deal with this problem" solution, is antibiotics / antivirals / etc. Taking such medications is basically saying, "Screw my immune system, I'm going to fight the invader myself with this foreign chemical that comes neither from the pathogen nor my own body, but rather some lab somewhere, probably mass-produced by genetically-engineered E. Coli in a vat or something similar."
It's so freaking bizarre that people treat antibiotics / antivirals / etc as the "go natural, trust your immune system" approach and not vaccines.
A thousand times this.
Anti-biotics/virals/et al. are the "nuke it from orbit" solution. They often kill everything, good or bad, in our systems (I.E. anti-biotics kill good bacteria we use for things like digestion). As you said, vaccines are trusting our immune systems by giving them in depth details about the threats they are going to face.
Prevention is better than cure. There's a reason this saying has persisted for so long.
Honestly I think the problem is that anti-vaxxers have never had to fac
Disinformation turned into a meme ... (Score:4, Insightful)
It is worse than what you think.
That "why are they focusing on vaccines? They should have put their effort in therapeutics" has spread like wildfire east and west. I have seen people repeat this meme, on two completely different sides of the world (developing and industrial), in the two languages I am fluent in ...
And I've seen that from late 2020 at least ... ...
So misinformation turns into memes, and spreads extremely fast
This is fueled by mistrust in science and authority in general ...
There is no logic or reason here, just parroting off this misinformation from whatever parties who started it (foreign governments, anti-vaxxers, libertarian minded think tanks, who known what else ...)
All this with vaccines being less profitable than small molecule therapies for pharma companies.
That is why companies do not work on vaccines at the same pace or scale as regular drugs, and that is why it takes many years to get the various clinical trials funded. And that is why the USA spent billions jump starting the effort for the COVID-19 vaccines.
Where did that oft-repeated criticism go? The one that says: "pharma focuses on therapies, so they make more money. They are not interested in curing or preventing disease". It is totally forgotten, because the point is not to make a reasonable argument. ...
The point is to sow FUD, and it worked
And now that Paxlovid is available (with all its limitations of fast timing, and contraindications for certain people), there is no rush for it, and people are still dying ...
Wow (Score:5, Funny)
Why would they want to put a chip in bees?
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Bees fly everywhere. Imagine how good our 5G coverage will be!
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What not-me person are you talking to? [slashdot.org]
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Lol, you were on here declaring many times we'd have our real FSD not fake marketing FSD with Tesla taxis and the works, years ago.
It was exactly you. Nice try, though.
You've been at this, repeating Musk's nonsense dates for so many years I don't even recall how many times you/Elon have been wrong. For a while back then I was wondering if you actually were Elon because your posts were so crazy blind pro-Elon.
Was it not you who promised we'd absolutely have our Tesla taxis by end of the year? (Years ago)
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Shifting goalposts and offtopic trolling again, how sad and pathetic.
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She's not going to suck your cock. She can defend herself. Put the sock puppets away.
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Fuck off with your off topic trolling.
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Why would they want to put a chip in bees?
Are these the Bee G chip?
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it's to keep them staying alive.
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Why would they want to put a chip in bees?
I, for one, think that giving jabs to bees is like sending coals to Newcastle.
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To track them of course.
I put our logo on all of our bees so when a neighbor
complains that our bees are getting water out of their swimming pool,
I ask them if they can see our logo!
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Something something ZigBee something...
Vaccine jokes aren't funny (Score:3, Insightful)
I wanna make some jokes about this stuff, but there are too many actual anti-vaxxer fools, and there's no way I want to sound like those idiots even for lolz.
Re:Vaccine jokes aren't funny (Score:5, Funny)
Joke away, we're talking about bees here. They demonstrate significantly higher intellectual capability than anti-vaxxers.
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You say this but the vaccine chips are AI enabled with 5G.
It's only a matter of time before radicalized bees are on Twitter and stage a hive revolt.
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That's right, and furthermore, those microscopic chips end up in the honey you buy in grocery stores. When you eat it, the chips become integrated into your body, giving the government an easy way to track your every move.
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Bees who are against vaccines are known as anti-vaxzzzzers.
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Sure they are. You just need to expose yourself to some inoffensive vaccine jokes and maybe some mildly offensive vaccine jokes and you will be ready for the good jokes when you encounter them.
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Oddly, Dems don't waste as much as Republicans. Just as importantly, if you had a nationalised health service, the full asking price would be 10% of the current asking price. That's the benefit of organized consumers.
If the vaccine only prevents deaths... (Score:2, Insightful)
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So many incorrect assumptions. Basically, everything you said is wrong.
You need to read up on how vaccines actually work and then read the linked article.
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Vaccines for X don't cause more X. They cause less.
Also, vaccines put evolutionary pressure on pathogens to be less lethal, so they have time to spread before being detected.
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Lethality and expression of illness are unrelated. The ideal genocidal virus would spread through the entire population over a long period of time and then change to "kill the carrier" mode. Even if it wasn't a 100% wipeout, it could be close and certainly a mass death would end civilization as we know it, globally.
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That's kind of the mode for HIV, spread a long time and then kill. A couple of hundred years ago it might have been a bigger problem than it was.
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Yes. And thankfully the hiv methods of transmission are not as widespread as say the common cold.
There are a lot more people breathing near others everyday than having unprotected sex with multiple partners, getting unfiltered blood transfusions or sharing drug needles.
If hiv did transmit like the common cold it would likely eliminate us as a species. The handful of people with natural immunity would eventually be living in a giant morgue of billions. It took decades before prep and similar control drugs
Those poor vets (Score:2)
Hitting the bee's knee with a syringe is no small feat.
Injections (Score:2)
Honey Bees are Invasive (Score:2)
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Honey Bees do not belong here.
Why, because god didn't put them here?
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You talked about belonging as if it meant something.
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Vaccinate wild bees.
Is this vaccine Round-Up Ready (c)(tm)(r) ? (Score:2)
Else it will not have much impact..
Here's an idea (Score:4, Informative)
Here is an idea... how about the US stop spraying neonicotinoid pesticides everywhere, weakening the bees and/or outright killing them?
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What? And destroy (2) profitable businesses; the pesticide companies and the bee vaccine companies!
It's better to follow the existing model for human health. Put HFCS and sugar in everything and then sell people weight loss drugs.
Little needles (Score:2)
Imagine trying to inject a bee hive with a tiny little needle, going to take along time.
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Varroa resistance was bred-in, why not foulbrood? (Score:2)
So, scientists have bred bees to be resistant to Variola mite:
https://www.science.org/conten... [science.org]
Why not do the same approach here? Instead of vaccines, breed resistant varieties of bees? The generation time of bees is relatively quick, so it seems like this could be done.
Won't work through if there isn't any natural resistance to foulbrood.
Anthrax for Honeybees (Score:2)
You can think of American Foulbrood as anthrax for bees.
Indeed, the bacteria was classified as Bacillus larvae until 2006 when it was reclassified as Paenibacillus larvae.
The bacteria which causes anthrax is classified as Bacillus anthracis.
The bacteria form spores which are hard to kill and can be easily transported between hives.
Hence, the need to burn infected hives as they spores will always be there.
In Maryland, they used an ethylene oxide chamber instead of incineration of infected hives until recent
It is a myth that bees are essential to humanity (Score:2)
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How do you get the polination?