New UFO Report Shows Hundreds More Incidents than Previously Thought (go.com) 62
The U.S. intelligence community says that the number of UFO reports involving U.S. military personnel is increasing, "enabling a greater awareness of the airspace and increased opportunity to resolve" what is actually being reported. From a report: Roughly half of the new incidents reported in the report had terrestrial explanations, the report said. The increase in reporting is being partially attributed to the continuing effort to destigmatize the reporting of such incidents and focusing on the potential safety risks they could pose to U.S. personnel. The report released Thursday by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence said that since its first June 2021 unclassified report on what are now called Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs), it is now aware of 510 such reports.
That is significantly more than the 144 incidents reviewed in the initial report, only one of which could be explained. The new report said the Pentagon's new office looking at UAP reports has looked at 366 new reported incidents and initially determined that about half of them have "unremarkable characteristics." Twenty-six are being attributed to drones, 163 characterized as balloon or balloon-like entities, and six are attributed to clutter. The report says these initial assessments do "not mean positively resolved or unidentified" but will aid investigators in trying to determine how to explain "the remaining 171 uncharacterized and unattributed UAP reports" some of which "appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities, and require further analysis."
That is significantly more than the 144 incidents reviewed in the initial report, only one of which could be explained. The new report said the Pentagon's new office looking at UAP reports has looked at 366 new reported incidents and initially determined that about half of them have "unremarkable characteristics." Twenty-six are being attributed to drones, 163 characterized as balloon or balloon-like entities, and six are attributed to clutter. The report says these initial assessments do "not mean positively resolved or unidentified" but will aid investigators in trying to determine how to explain "the remaining 171 uncharacterized and unattributed UAP reports" some of which "appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities, and require further analysis."
1947! (Score:1)
The recent Defense Department spending bill directs them to look at UFO sightings as far back as 1945 [nytimes.com]. Even better, two years later in 1947 there was Roswell [youtube.com]!
We many finally get a hashed around answer to what really happened in Roswell as well as the avocado-shaped object which reportedly plowed into a communication tower at what is now the Trinity Site in 1945.
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I guess average Slashdotters would need a "close encounter of the third kind" like ship to land in front of them AND have alien beings come out of it to shake their hands to believe into anything related to the matter, they usually systematically rule out any possibilities. Kind of imbued with themselves thinking they are the center of the universe.
That's right, folks. It's YOUR fault there's a lack of compelling evidence for the existence of extra-terrestrial life.
At that point it wouldn't be a UFO (Score:2)
I have to point out that if the ship lands in front of us and the aliens come out, then it's no longer a UFO - Which merely means "Unidentified Flying Object". Once we've ID'd the thing as the alien mothership or whatever, it's no longer a UFO.
That said, we have literally tens of thousands of flights a day. It's like looking for cryptic animals - the tales we hear about can be distortions of animals with injuries, ill, deformities, seen in the dark, etc... For example, a coyote with mange can look quite
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Defense Department spending bill
That's what this is really about.
For many, I think the most likely explanation are drones (or missiles) from other agencies.
Remember, the US alone has 17 independent Intelligence Agencies - only half of whom are under DoD
Most (if not all) have their own well funded classified drone programs with their own subcontractors. And they don't --- and legally can't --- talk to each other about them.
If a classified drone belongs to any of:
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That's less security clearances, and more how classification levels work. If you don't "need to know", even if your clearance level is higher than the information, you don't get access.
That said, "need to know" can be wider than you think, even if it is only "that was a US craft under a different agency" just to avoid wasted effort.
Also, given the timeframe of the UFOs being examined, most aren't going to be drones.
Mars Attacks! (Score:2)
Call out the National Guard!
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Call out the National Guard!
They're not attacking. Mars Needs Women [youtube.com].
Gee I wonder what could cause that (Score:1)
I'm not saying it was aliens but it's aliens
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Re:Gee I wonder what could cause that (Score:4, Insightful)
When they assert they recorded things that nobody can replicate in terms of capabilities, we better pay attention.
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While a good bit of recent folklore and hearsay is certainly due to regular people mistaking drones and natural phenomena for UFOs, military sightings are much harder to put into the same basket.
Joining the military does not cause a person's IQ to go up, nor does it give them +2 Wisdom.
OTOH, military pilots are often issued amphetamines. They also frequently do not get enough sleep, for both operational and non-operational reasons. And for obvious reasons, they're unlikely to give honest self-assessments about their lack of sleep when reporting anomalous observations.
Re: Gee I wonder what could cause that (Score:2)
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1. Your friendly local military doctor. Will require being in the military in a position where they need you stay up excessively. See your local recruiter for that. A college degree will help.
2. Around 3.
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True, but those pilots are in the majority of cases only one of the multiple independent instruments 'sighting' the objects. Additionally the military has experts just the same as the civilian population (in fact, most civilian scientists actually work for them because most federal grant money is funneled through the military) and those are resources they are using to screen these sightings. This is reporting the hundreds which remain AFTER failing to find mundane explanations.
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If you're paying attention, the ones they can't explain are ones with the weakest data.
If the pilot hallucinates something, that goes into the "unexplained" bin.
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I don't know, I don't have a list. But that wasn't the case with the previous set of unexplained cases. Generally there were multiple pilots and more importantly an assortment of instruments on their jets. In at least one case they had not only that but confirmation from multiple instruments on an aircraft carrier. When it is just the pilot and just their radar or one scanner... that is probably just an artifact.
In some of these cases the pilots actually had systems actively jammed. That isn't a radar glitc
Re: Gee I wonder what could cause that (Score:2)
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While a good bit of recent folklore and hearsay is certainly due to regular people mistaking drones and natural phenomena for UFOs, military sightings are much harder to put into the same basket.
When they assert they recorded things that nobody can replicate in terms of capabilities, we better pay attention.
Our military activities are at the top of the list of things foreign intelligence is interested in. The most advanced ECW capabilities our adversaries have will be used for that. So the next time, for example, a naval aviator, because duh, detects something flying at an impossible speed and direction over the ocean, because of fucking course, it needs to be seriously investigated. It's not aliens people, for fuck's sake, get a clue.
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It's a garbage pod.
Re: Gee I wonder what could cause that (Score:2)
It's a smegging garbage pod!
Dear Aliens... (Score:5, Funny)
I and my family are prepared to declare our allegiance to your cause. Fuck these other humans, I honestly never liked them much anyway and they are consuming valuable resources we could use from this planet.
Aside from my family I'll screen the rest for a handful of optimal breeding mates, for your sake, so you don't have to feel bad because of exterminating an entire species. See how helpful I am? I for one welcome our new overlords!
Re: Dear Aliens... (Score:2)
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"To Serve Man" indeed!
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10% is probably well below the civiilzan rate. What percentage drink, that should be classified as a drug just the same.
Military service has required more vaccinations than civilians for as long as these vaccines have been around. One of the first things in bootcamp is getting your shots (i've been told)
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And just saying military personnel are less criminal is not saying much.
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Yup, its a combat readiness issue with vaccines and yes, you do effectively sign way you bodily autonomy when joining.
I am just saying the statement "10% of active military abuses drugs." is wildly loaded statement without further context and really is designed to evoke an emotional response, it isn't actually saying anything about anything.
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10% is also ridiculously low:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.go... [nih.gov]
Yeah, people get drunk and see things. We're used to discounting those stories. For some reason people wax poetic about how amazing and super reliable military pilots are, even though they're really just dumb kids and a bunch of them are exhausted and high.
Indeed it is (Score:2)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fasta... [cdc.gov]
Civilian rate is 13% of those 12 and over have used an illicit(IE illegal) drug within the last month.
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In the US around 10% of active military abuses drugs.
Up to 15% of recruits can have a GED. Current 5% of the army did not graduate high school.
Recently the CDC released a report saying the military was disease ridden, diabetes, cancer caused by making and other negative health habit. The military now does have to have vaccines that regular Americans have to stay healthy.
The reality is a civilian in todays world is simply more trustworthy than a military hero such as, for example, Petraeus.
You can barely put together a sentence in English yourself, what problem could you possibly have with GEDs?
"caused by making and other negative health habit"
Your comment history is full of atrocious grammar too. You're obviously ESL, and that's fine, but why are you judging GEDs in the military then? How could you possibly have skin in this game? You came here and got a GED didn't you, I fucking knew it, and I bet the recruiting office turned you away. Complications with your background check? It happe
Re: Says more about military readiness (Score:2)
Grab the tinfoil hat! (Score:2)
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Just make sure it's actually tin. Aluminum foil doesn't block shit.
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Anyone know if bronze helmets work?
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Can't tell up from aliens (Score:2)
These guys get confused about which way is up. I'm a bit skeptical about their ability to guage distance, and therefore have any idea what performance characteristics would be necessary to see what they see.
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This idea that there are other intelligent life forms is crazy. it's obvious we are the only intelligent life forms in the universe, known and unknown.
Ok so how many readers are there that accept the above statement?
I don't accept it because the idea isn't crazy. But I think it's entirely possible that we are the only ones here, right now.
Of those who do not accept the above statement, are other intelligent life forms dangerous or benevolent?
Yes.
The government-supported military-industrial complex space force wants to know what degree of fear porn propaganda they need to be outputting.
Well now you're just trolling. But if that comes to pass it will certainly be interesting.
100s more incidents? not much (Score:3)
Carlin Would Eat This Up. (Score:3)
"Sometime in my life, 'Unidentified Flying Objects' became 'Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena'. I wasn't notified of this... nobody asked me if I approved..." - not George Carlin, extrapolated
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'Unidentified Flying Objects' became 'Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena
This implies they're not necessarily flying.
"Anomalous Phenomena" has a nice ring to it. Too bad they didn't go with "Anonymous Anomalous Phenomena."
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Exciting times!! (Score:2)
Explain like I'm five .. (Score:1)
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Why the UFOs keep there presence hidden and yet keep on buzzing military installations
For fun?
Unknowable (Score:2)
The existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence is just a little less terrifying than an absolute certainty that there is no other intelligent life forms in the universe other than human beings. It is only the uncertainty that shields us from absolute terror either way. Alternatively, the information maybe be classified or any intelligence beings able to get past the immense separation of time and space would likely be able to conceal themselves and may not want us to know they exist.
One thing is certai
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Well if there are planets out there with chimps and dogs I doubt we are going to have much interaction with them and I think we are the only great apes that can do math.
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Well if there are planets out there with chimps and dogs I doubt we are going to have much interaction with them and I think we are the only great apes that can do math.
Chimps can do simple arithmetic, it seems, and there's some evidence for some birds and dogs being able to do so. There's probably no evidence for cats being able to do arithmetic as no one has managed to make a cat care enough. Space dogs will probably mostly want to come here to sniff our butts, though.
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Great - let's get them to calculate orbital mechanics. If they ever do perhaps they may ponder why there is no intelligent like themselves - as they sniff each others butts and pick lice from each other's fur.
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Great - let's get them to calculate orbital mechanics
The problem is they don't wear clothes so they have nowhere to put their slide rules.
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They could clip a pocket protector onto their fur, I'm sure they're smart enough to work it out.
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It would be weightless because they are space dogs and chimps.
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