National Geographic Lays Off All Remaining Staff Writers (washingtonpost.com) 133
"The Washington Post reports that all remaining editorial staffers have been laid off at National Geographic, as the iconic magazine continues to spiral downward," writes longtime Slashdot reader DesScorp. "The famous yellow-bordered print issues of our youth is also an endangered species, as National Geographic also announced that print issues will no longer be sold on newsstands." From the report: Like one of the endangered species whose impending extinction it has chronicled, National Geographic magazine has been on a relentlessly downward path, struggling for vibrancy in an increasingly unforgiving ecosystem. On Wednesday, the Washington-based magazine that has surveyed science and the natural world for 135 years reached another difficult passage when it laid off all of its last remaining staff writers.
The cutback -- the latest in a series under owner Walt Disney Co. -- involves some 19 editorial staffers in all, who were notified in April that these terminations were coming. Article assignments will henceforth be contracted out to freelancers or pieced together by editors. The cuts also eliminated the magazine's small audio department. The layoffs were the second over the past nine months, and the fourth since a series of ownership changes began in 2015. In September, Disney removed six top editors in an extraordinary reorganization of the magazine's editorial operations.
The cutback -- the latest in a series under owner Walt Disney Co. -- involves some 19 editorial staffers in all, who were notified in April that these terminations were coming. Article assignments will henceforth be contracted out to freelancers or pieced together by editors. The cuts also eliminated the magazine's small audio department. The layoffs were the second over the past nine months, and the fourth since a series of ownership changes began in 2015. In September, Disney removed six top editors in an extraordinary reorganization of the magazine's editorial operations.
Unsubbed once they went wok (Score:1, Insightful)
really? (Score:2)
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And yet it IS happening, the evidence is clearly there. Since it flies in the face of some theology and hopeful economics, it gets denied a lot.
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Was it the expansion of the deserts?
Maybe the melting of the polar caps?
The drastic increase of tropical storms?
Shrinking of the glaciers?
What about bananas and coffee?
The coral reefs?
I could go on, but based on tens of thousands of years analyzed from core samples, it is very clear this era is unique and not cyclical.
I have never been a tree hugger, but in recent years, I have mourned the planet. We have not been ki
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Lol yes all of those. .It's.not,real.
The entertainment industry is the entertainment industry. Whether they call themselves news, magazine, movies, radio. It's all entertainment. Smile and wave.
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Wok?
I love woks. The local restaurant has one the size of a satellite dish and they make a damn tasty lunch.
Re:Unsubbed once they went wok (Score:4, Funny)
lol this is all conservatives can even think about anymore.
economy? nah
taxes? nope
foreign policy? who cares
the american family? if it doesnt involve me thinking about a kids genitals i dont want to hear about it!
Not conservatives (Score:2, Informative)
Evidence-based people have trouble with the whole bullshit trans concept. It's gender dysphoria. It's a psychological condition.
Keep deluding yourselves into extinction, though.
Re:Not conservatives (Score:4, Insightful)
The whole issue blows up in right wing circles because they've been resurrecting the lie that queer people are all perverts who are actively recruiting children into their ranks. It's the whole "fear the other" thinking rising up. The fact that this is the major campaign issue for the Republican party says a lot about how they've completely lost their message. Soon we'll be back to the late 70s era witchhunts to root out and fire teachers who are rumored to be gay, since time only moves backwards in their world.
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Well, there ARE groups actively champagning for the right to surgically remove a child's penis and raise that child as a girl, and/or apply hormone blockers to children of either gender, both of which have permanent lifelong consequences to the child's development.
They call it "trans kids rights." However, children are incredibly vulnerable, especially to coercion from parents, teachers, and peers, AND children are not mentally capable of grasping the long-term consequences of such procedures. As such, th
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Nice deflection (Score:1)
They aren't cutting off genitalia or permanently ruining puberty at child beauty pageants. Sick fucks, all of you, supporting this evil practice.
That’s not what I heard. (Score:1)
cutting off genitalia or permanently ruining puberty
I heard that all this and more happens at child beauty pageants!
I feel much better now that a child beauty pageant expert has came here to clear things up!
How many child beauty pageants do you visit every year?
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Same way you wouldn't tolerate religious symbols and prayer in class. That's fine, I can accept that too.
How about we keep schools neutral?
Re: Not conservatives (Score:2)
And you encourage other psychological problems? (Score:1, Insightful)
So you're ok with telling people with NPD to abuse and manipulate others, and actively recruit new narcs?
So you're ok with telling people with ASPD to keep being psychopaths and hey, murder a few people while you are at it? Let's recruit!!
So you're ok with tellling BPD people to keep treating others like dirt. Let's actively recruit!!
So why are you ok with actively recruiting people to a disorder like gender dysphoria where they want to permanently mutilate their own bodies with either drugs or surgery to
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If I claim to be Napoleon Bonaparte, you won't make me emperor of France, you'd put me in a padded cell. But if I claim to be a woman, you'd give me hormones to grow tits and a surgery to invert my dick into a pseudo-vagina. No! They are the same -- DELUSIONS. You don't change the world to match a delusion.
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Regardless of what you think of the validity of OP's comment, it's not surprising (to me) that the so-called "woke" thing takes precedence for conservatives over issues such as economy/taxation/foreignpolicy
The whole point of "woke" for "conservatives" is that it is something that is poorly defined that they can hate on. You don't have to agree with your fellow conservative on specifics if you can agree to hate "woke" policies, without defining what those policies really are in detail.
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The funny thing is that it's not actually that poorly defined when push comes to shove. When Ron DeSantis' trial judge demanded they define the term, his lawyer said "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them". Which I think is pretty close to a definition liberals would use (they'd probably say "awareness" instead of "belief").
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Though it is true that "woke" is not precisely defined, I don't think that this lack of definition is its whole point.
It has a vague definition that is sufficient for conservative purposes. Anything that involves artificially elevating minority races above majority races (whites, specifically), or that involves artificially elevating alternative sexualities/lifestyles (trans, gay, etc.,) above straights, is woke. Same goes for the artificial elevation of females above males. Lastly, good old-fashioned se
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Well here's a poll from April of this year asking what republicans care about.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyl... [yahoo.com]
1) challenges "woke"
2) hands off muh guns!
3) say Trump won in 2020
4) make liberals angry
I'm going to guess Hunter's laptop and Hillary's emails are numbers 5 and 6.
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You forgot "biggest witchhunt in history" and "weaponizing the justice department".
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Wok? Your poor English has betrayed you identity as a Chinese propagandist.
Re: Unsubbed once they went wok (Score:1)
National Geographic and the swimsuit issue was the only outlet for repressed Christian boys. Going to the barn or bathroom to get relief.
I think they realize that now that Biden is giving free internet p0rn to every kid in America they have no purpose.
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I appreciate when someone brings up wokeness or the culture wars. Makes it easy to know who to ignore.
Now, this being modded insightful, that’s the real crime!
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National Geographic was woke for at least 50 years. It's a defining characteristic of the magazine.
You realize that woke's core nature is to treat everyone with dignity and respect? It's also about thinking about our futures and what we hope to leave behind.
You're issue is probably with its execution by people who are generally ignorant or others capitalizing on it.
Many people have the right overall intentions but can't seem to express it more gracefully than to swing hammers around in a glass shop. And
I've actually been reading it more lately... (Score:2)
That said, they've had a lot of "special issues" lately on the newsstands. The most recent one I've seen is something about prominent figures from the bible. It looks like a regular NatGeo magazine, and in some cases is more prominently displayed as well. I'm not sure they're doing themselves many favors
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I used to pick up bags of National Geographic magazines at my local library at the dollar bag sales.
My local library was rather large and still didn't keep all the old issues.
They were also the most popular magazines in my grade school to cut up for art collages.
I still have a box of maps from my childhood that I saved from them in a box in my house.
Wonderful magazine. Would make a great addition to any doctor or dentist office if everyone wasn't just using their phones instead.
Sad to see them go but likel
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Well, I read this in the synopsis:
It appears these days...anything "The Mouse" touches dies these days...movie franchises...magazines, you name it....
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Expect a special issue on prominent Marvel figures (Score:2)
As in plastic ones. Toys. For children.
Clearly, Disney is in a very poor financial situation and all humans have to go.
Enjoy the ever further infantilization of CultureTM!
Blame the leadership for selling out (Score:5, Insightful)
They had a choice to either reinforce their core markets and build on them or sell out to Fox. They chose to sell out to Fox, a company that is not known for good brand management for stuff like NatGeo.
Then Fox got bought out by Disney, and it was inevitable that they would swirl the drain.
From what I hear, Marvel Comics (NOT to be confused with Marvel Studios) is starting to slowly swirl the drain because of Disney mismanagement that has lead to gutting the core product's quality and insulting its traditional fan base.
The moral of this story is that companies that need to grow by buying content producers very often cannot produce quality content themselves. We're even seeing this with video games now where Microsoft is having to buy out ever publisher and studio it can get its hands on because they have such a low ability as a company to organically create new creative teams capable of building quality products.
Another strike for M&A (Score:5, Insightful)
If these companies would have stayed independent, they'd have had a chance to sink or swim on their own.
Now they'll end up as "IP" for some faceless corporation buried behind walls of copyright and trademark for a century.
My personal favorite in this category is Avalon Hill, which used to make wargames before Hasbro inserted them in their IP locker.
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I owned Tactics 2 when I was a kid, but hadn't thought about Avalon Hill in a long time. Your post prompted me to look at their product line now and you are right they gutted that company. I don't see any of their games, just rebranded Hasbro shit. So sad, things really were way better before about 2005.
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Will give it a try, i'm a sucker for those kind of games. (a game whose name is blocked by the lameness filter, initials TR) being the archetype of such games, a great simulation done heuristically via playtesting.
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Naw, the problem is that magazines as a whole are dying out. Especially one that relies upon regular subscriptions over supermarket checkout line impulse buys. Doesn't help that they were more intellectual and scientific compared to the gossip rags that sell best.
I hope the National Geographic _Society_ continues on even if the glossy magazine does not. (second president was Alexander Graham Bell)
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I don't think its that they can't produce quality content. I think its hard, expensive, and risky to produce quality content. Its a lot more economical to let dozens/hundreds of other people take the risk to create new things, and then buy the IP from the ones who succeed.
Even highly talented musicians who have hit records often can't reproduce successful results. There is more to quality content than talent, effort, or money.
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From what I hear, Marvel Comics (NOT to be confused with Marvel Studios) is starting to slowly swirl the drain because of Disney mismanagement that has lead to gutting the core product's quality and insulting its traditional fan base.
What is the "traditional fan base," though?
I'm GenX - When I was a kid in the 70s and a teen in the 80s I bought Iron Man, Spider-Man, The Avengers etc. off a rack at the local drug store. The comics were printed on newsprint and had (gasp!!!) ads. Today, if my 12-year-ol
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Disney does not support pedophiles, it supported its gay employees. Do you even know the difference?
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Hmm...seems the folks in the gay parades want to blur those lines a bit from the distinction you try to make...
Chants of "We're here, we're queer, we're coming for your children" (skip to about 4:26 for actual parade audio) [youtube.com].
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They are just winding people like you up. Fed up of all the "groomer" shit, that they have actually been getting for decades so it's not as original as you think, they decided to mock you with it.
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Re: Blame the leadership for selling out (Score:2)
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Disney does not support pedophiles, it supported its gay employees. Do you even know the difference?
They would like you to think there's a difference. There isn't. Degenerate behavior that targets children.
Sure, not all of them behave that way. Some gays just shut the fuck up and live a happy life without targeting children, but there are plenty using the LGBTQIAAP+EIEOI movement to target them.
Cops have qualified immunity that allows them to beat up, hurt, and shoot people with little fear of retribution. That's why abusers are attracted to being police officers.
Politicians have rarely-checked
Business model is dead... (Score:5, Interesting)
Real, complex stories, high quality printed magazines, actual on-site research, professional photography and videography, expensive travel, competent writers, a skew towards an independent truth... The world generally no longer values any of that.
My father was a subscriber for all of my life - 52 years. Those magazines were ever-present in our home, even when we lived on next to nothing in a trailer court outside of town, with my father cutting hair and my mother sorting mail.
They've been doomed for a while. I'm sorry to see them go, though. I cannot begin to count how many issues I read.
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It is sad. National Geographic and Scientific American were always on the coffee table at our house when I was growing up. My grandmother also used to buy National Geographic's books, and I remember just pouring over one of their books on the Aztecs when I was nine or ten, with its stunning pictures and artistic renditions of their temples and cities. It really was an amazing publishing house, and one that at one time was one of the great geographical publications, where you could have a magazine that had a
Re:Business model is dead... (Score:5, Insightful)
The only way you can conclude that National Geographic became a "mouthpiece for the left" is if that's what you call a refusal to kowtow to political ideologies not based on science.
It's very possible that the behaviour of the natural world and the messaging of the ideologically left are simply more in alignment.
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I recall they ran at least 1 issue, around 10 years ago, headlined "The War On Science". I didn't read it but presumably it was about climate change denial, evolution denial, and anti-intellectualism in general. I imagine that immediately triggered a bunch of old people who soak in Fox News. In more recent years I've seen issues about "The Healing Power of Faith" and "The Origins of Christianity". I did read the latter one, the first half was an annotated retelling of the Biblical story with maps and histor
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“It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias.”
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Stephen Colbert
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They had a lot of space articles also. I used to peruse them in the library. It's where I first read about the crazy struggles of the Ranger moon probes in the 1960's. They kept failing one after the other. One manager noticed cigarette ashes in the parts, and that's when clean-room procedures became common-place.
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Real, complex stories, high quality printed magazines, actual on-site research, professional photography and videography, expensive travel, competent writers, a skew towards an independent truth... The world generally no longer values any of that.
The general population never valued any of that, but it was fashionable to pretend that one does, because intellectualism was fashionable. Now, times have changed and it is fashionable to pretend to be an activist.
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I looked through some old issues recently. (Score:2)
That puff piece on the Shah of Iran in the mid 1970s didn't age well at all. Nor did Jane Goodall's noble chimpanzees.
Nobody wants those back issues. Nobody. Pure landfill.
Magazines will soon be extinct (Score:3)
Its not just NatGeo, soon there won't be any magazines. *
Amazon is closing its Newsstand service by September
* apart from those containing 30 to 35 rounds of 5.56x45mm or 5.45x39mm or 7.62x39mm or 9x19mm etc
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You are forgetting 7.62x51 and 6.8x51.
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Are there any good magazines left? The only ones I read now are Japanese ones, because they have really good articles that teach you high level stuff. All the English language ones I see are mostly just beginner tutorials. How to use cat in Linux, type these commands to make your module work.
Newsstands (Score:4, Insightful)
I remember for most of its history National Geographic wasn't available on Newsstands. It was originally only delivered to members of the National Geographic Society.
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That's how I got mine when I was a kid, I became a member of the National Geographic Society. Two issues that i remember standing out are the Chernobyl issue and the issue with the Afghani girl with the eyes*.
*If you saw the cover you know who I'm talking about.
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That's how I got mine when I was a kid, I became a member of the National Geographic Society. Two issues that i remember standing out are the Chernobyl issue and the issue with the Afghani girl with the eyes*.
*If you saw the cover you know who I'm talking about.
Same here, and I recall the Afghani girl cover.
She was later rediscovered, in case you are interested.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
I just looked her up myself again, looks like she got evacuated to Italy in 2021.
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think libraries and what not had them, but yes, as a kid we had them, and for a while kept many of them in special binders too...
LIFE magazine syndrome (Score:5, Insightful)
You can blame the preference for electronic media and other factors; but NG was dead to me a long time ago in the early 2000s. My father used to give me a subscription for my birthday, and when it was coming up I told him not to do that. He said he'd noticed me picking them up and putting them down quickly. That's because it had become a picture book.
Oh noes! How dare you impugn the aware winning NG photographers.
Well, it's not so much that I'm blaming them. They were just doing their job. It's the editors who decided that was *all* the magazine really needed, who made the prose a throw-in just to flesh things out and caption the pictures.
I used to spend hours soaking in their writer's tales of paddling through the Amazon or treking across distant mountain ranges. The text was still there, but it was suffering. The pictures were magnificent, but you just look a few seconds and turn, then you're done. It doesn't feel like it's worth it.
So it's just like LIFE magazine, which I seem to recall also becoming a larger format to make the photography pop, and having special issues, then less and less frequently, then stopping.
It's not just the electronic age killing it. You can't just sell pictures. People can see everything you've got in a minute. If the news stand let's you pick it up, you've basically "read" it without buying. You need compelling prose to prevent that, to make it feel like a worthwhile purchase.
Case in point. The New Yorker [wikipedia.org] is still going strong. The cartoons are a side-show, not the whole magazine. If you get pulled in to a long story, it can take an hour.
Good point, but still Disney's fault... (Score:3)
I.e. If you can point out such a basic flaw, shouldn't they be able?
And shouldn't the pivot be towards better writing instead of outsourcing it to lowest bidder? It's not like they are lacking money or anything.
Nah, this is all on Disney.
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I tend to blame the metrics. It's not that they are too dumb to spot the flaw themselves, it's that the thing they measure or the way they measure it says that the change was a successful one, so they do more of it. It's an argument I get into frequently with advertising, especially google ads related companies. They'll show us all the charts and the ROI and how spending 3x on ads has returned a 10x on the metrics. And it's really hard to argue with... until I bring out the actual sales charts and point out
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My dad got the box set DVD collection. He also had alot of books when he was subscribed to it.
I think 100 years anniversary box set or something? Been a while.
Obsolete in the age of the internet (Score:3)
Nat Geo was a super interesting magazine, but it can't compete with endless online content. The world is simply smaller. The mystique of the international world is not hidden behind the thousands of miles that it once was.
It's not because people don't find value in this type of content, a magazine was never going to compete in today's world.
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I remember trying to explain what the internet was to friends in the publishing industry and what it meant for them about 20-25 years ago. Oh how they laughed and laughed.
been marveled (Score:2)
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His hammer [wikipedia.org] always WAS his penis.
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As I was saying before some closeted snowflake with a hardon for big burly men tried to downmod reality...
Thor's hammer ALWAYS [wikipedia.org] was his penis.
Duh! He's a fertility deity boys and girls.
That's why he gets all upset when he thinks he's unworthy or various women take control of it or break it into pieces.
Draw your own conclusions about Captain America handling his "hammer" and Thor being all giddy about it. [youtu.be]
Devalued long ago. (Score:3)
When he died, I told everyone they're valuable and should be kept and I wanted them.
But they were thrown out because nobody could be bothered.
National Geographic (Score:1)
Disney owns it now?! (Score:2)
the death kiss of the mouse (Score:3)
NatGeo Commits Slow Suicide (Score:5, Insightful)
I cancelled by subscription to National Geographic right after the first big glowbull warmening article; it was blatantly false scare tactics, and a clear sign that accuracy was no longer valued. I cancelled my subscription to Scientific American the next year, for the same reason.
And now this. First Disnefication, and then no writers. Wokism destroys everything.
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fuckin hell you people are dipshits
you'll be standing on the roof of your home while it's flooded and on fire and you'll be smugly telling those woke rescue workers to get lost because they're just trying to scare you into leaving
print issues will no longer be sold on newsstands (Score:2)
Wait, Newsstands are still a thing?
Don’t worry guys, it’ll be fine (Score:1)
We’ll just let ChatGPT write our articles for us.
Legacy of Heorot looks dated now (Score:2)
In the 1987 sci-fi novel "Legacy of Heorot", National Geographic was financing interstellar expeditions. And in "2001: A Space Odyssey" Pan Am was flying to space stations.
It's always risky using real companies in stories set in the future.
Hope more follows (Score:2)
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Journalists decided that journalism isn't necessary any more, not "this country".
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Journalists decided that journalism isn't necessary any more, not "this country".
Journalists are journalists. There are some really good ones, a lot of mediocre ones, and some really bad ones. Same as it has always been. What has changed is the owners. Money (and power) is being consolidated into a single "entity" and that entity has decided that journalism is not worth paying for. The masses do not need to be informed, they need to be controlled.
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I know you're just being an ass but you actually have a reasonable point. The market is what really made modern journalism such garbage, not 'journalists'. That's the flaw with turning news into a profit center instead of keeping it a cost center and accepting that providing that service is going to be a money-loser. Profit-driven journalism only incentivizes the lowest-common-denominator controversies and hot takes over real (boring) substance.
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I know you're just being an ass but you actually have a reasonable point.
We aim to please.
That's the flaw with turning news into a profit center instead of keeping it a cost center and accepting that providing that service is going to be a money-loser.
Sadly, that's only possible if journalism is funded by taxes. And some people have a shit fit at the mere mention of taxes, let alone paying for "woke" scribbling nerds attacking the gubermint.
Plus it would have to be something on the order of at least the funding for the police, to prevent the brain drain into commercial "fluff" journalism or entertainment.
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Funding journalism via taxes would make the problem worse. I'll pass on 'Official State Media'. Considering much of their funding now comes from NGO's it's already essentially taxpayer-funded and we can all see how they're able to manufacture preferred narratives because of it.
The original broadcast model is the way to do it. Back when the spectrum was limited broadcasting corporations had to agree to provide news as a public service in order to have the privilege of being granted a license and given a p
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As I said before some loony snowflake got all uppity and tried to downmod reality (though even the op agrees with my point)...
You misspelled "corporations".
Both of you did, but yours is dumber, as an attempt at correction of someone else's.
Re: Go woke go broke #7839 (Score:1)
Good to see slashdot is still sheltering Nazis.
Re:Dead Tree Media (Score:4, Insightful)
Speak for yourself. Dead tree media survives abuse that digital does not. And until companies start treating digital media rights exactly the same as dead tree media they can pound sand. I can resell, lend, or give away dead tree media, I don't have to worry about the publisher breaking into my house to take the book back from my bookshelf. Dead tree media works just fine without power, and can survive falls and being bent and crushed. Dead tree media doesn't require anything additional to be useful, no need for the expense of anything computerized, and definitely no need for anything proprietary that needs constant security updates or patches. All I want to do is read, I don't want to have to worry about maintaining yet another stupid digital tool and might not even last a few years. There's a book on the other side of the room from me that was published over 100 years ago, yet I keep hearing about how different digital things keep vanishing for various reasons. Digital is great if its a BETTER replacement than analog, most digital media just simply isn't.
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I know my post was a bit tongue in cheek and apparently has now been marked as flaimbait, but at the end of the day consumer trends point to digital media exceeding that of print media.
It's the foundation of the collapse of the major book stores like barns & noble, the demise of vinyl records, cds, vhs, dvd, the poor state of the newspaper industry, the collapse of the local TV stations/news (now owned by large companies with their own agendas which may not actually serve the individual local communitie
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I don't work in publishing, but I do speak with people who are and they've all had plans, several in fact, for how to deal with the decline in dead tree media. For the whole 15 years I've known them. Nothing they've done has worked. NOTHING. It turns out that people don't really want magazines anymore, they also have no interest in magazine formats on their ipads or iphones. They don't want to pay subscriptions to access web content. And moving to ad supported websites doesn't pay the bills either. This is
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There's an argument to be made that we are in a period of stupidification due to social media, entertainment news (not real news, just entertainment and opinion spewing), along with agendas pushing distrust in science and factual knowledge...
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NatGeo has a digital edition that you can, for instance, get on an iPad. I've used it. It's largely the same content as the print edition - oftentimes down to the page layout (NatGeo's physical page