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'Forever Chemicals' Taint Nearly Half of US Tap Water, Study Estimates (msn.com) 52

Equuleus42 (Slashdot reader #723) shares the Washington Post's article on "the latest evidence of the pervasiveness of 'forever chemicals'."

A new study from the United States Geological Survey estimates that these 12,000 "PFAS" contaminants "taint nearly half" of America's tap water: Studies are steadily documenting the ubiquity of this class of chemicals. A 2015 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found PFAS in the blood of over 95 percent of Americans. Exposure to PFAS has been associated with severe health risks, including some kinds of cancers, developmental delays in children and reproductive effects in pregnant people, although the Environmental Protection Agency states that "research is still ongoing to determine how different levels of exposure to different PFAS can lead to a variety of health effects..."

The researchers more frequently detected PFAS in urban areas or places next to potential sources of the chemicals such as airports, industry and wastewater treatment plants, said USGS research hydrologist Kelly Smalling, the study's lead author. Smalling estimated that about 75 percent of urban tap water has at least one type of PFAS present, compared with about 25 percent of rural tap water. The chemicals were also more prevalent in the Great Plains, Great Lakes, Eastern Seaboard and central and Southern California regions, according to the study.

Smalling even tested the water in their own home in New Jersey — and found that it, too, was contaminated. "It's not a surprise," Smalling said, describing New Jersey as "a hot spot for PFAS."

The article also notes that in March America's Environmental Protection Agency proposed the first drinking standard for PFAS in drinking water (though final rules may not arrive before next year). And 3M is paying a $10.3 billion settlement over 13 years for testing for and cleaning up PFAS in water supplies. "States are also stepping up action on PFAS, including through legislation banning or restricting the use of PFAS in everyday products and implementing drinking water standards..."

But Carmen Messerlian, an assistant Harvard professor of environmental epidemiology, argues for regulating companies that produce forever chemicals, since "By the time they hit our water, our food, our children's mouths and our bodies, it really is too late..." In the meantime, consumers can buy water filters that remove PFAS, "though the most effective filters can come at a cost that not everyone can afford, Messerlian said."
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'Forever Chemicals' Taint Nearly Half of US Tap Water, Study Estimates

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  • by jhoegl ( 638955 ) on Saturday July 08, 2023 @03:41PM (#63668973)
    Government has been removing money from the government entities that protect us from this crap for years.

    What did we expect? Capitalism to protect us?
    • Government has been removing money from the government entities that protect us from this crap for years. What did we expect? Capitalism to protect us?

      Actually some of us expected Greed to do what it does best, and Ignorance to be shocked while asking the same damn question.

      The fuck did we all honestly expect would happen. Humans are involved. Duh.

    • by null etc. ( 524767 ) on Saturday July 08, 2023 @04:55PM (#63669219)

      What did we expect? Capitalism to protect us?

      Of course, that's a feature of the invisible hand of the market place. If enough people move to a planet that isn't supplied by the corporations that pollute our world, corporations will be financial impacted and thus motivated to reform their ways.

    • by stooo ( 2202012 )

      Thanks to DOW chemicals.

  • The articles donâ(TM)t mention whether there are things we can do to mitigate the issue at home. Reverse osmosis filter?

    • Activated carbon, nanofiltration, or RO. Ideally a combination of activated carbon and nanofiltration with pre-filters. Viable for drinking water but tricky when you talk about shower water.

      • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Saturday July 08, 2023 @04:53PM (#63669211)

        If you are really worried about these chemicals, your drinking water is the least of your problems. You are far more likely to be exposed by your carpets and upholstery. PFAS coatings are used to make fabric water and stain resistant. Sprinkle some water on your sofa. If it beads up rather than soaking in, you got PFAS. PFAS chemicals are also used in degreasers and paint.

        TFA appears to be written to scare rather than inform. It says PFAS chemicals are "present" in drinking water, but doesn't say what the levels are, or what levels are a significant risk. Some PFAS are a much bigger concern than others, but TFA lumps them all together.

    • My two cents, first there is a private sector water industry that has been planning on this for ages, and their products are safe, but do have some *minerals added for taste* that evaporate down to a white powder unless you buy distilled. But it is a sordid industry:

      https://actions.eko.org/a/whil... [eko.org]

      As far as filters, I think the advice , always filter. Britta, Lifestraw, anything is better than nothing. But the expensive systems are better than these.

      • by caseih ( 160668 )

        Oh wow. That link is funny. It tries to be alarmist, but fails. 200 gpm is nothing. Hardly even statistically relevant as far as water use goes. Furthermore, there's not necessarily any real connection between Nestle bottling water and the water crisis in Flint. Whether Nestle bottles and sells public water has no bearing on what's happened in Flint. Shutting Nestle completely down would have zero impact on water quality in flint.

        But hey, everyone has to be outraged about something!

    • In the meantime, consumers can buy water filters that remove PFAS, "though the most effective filters can come at a cost that not everyone can afford, Messerlian said."

      There, I read TFS. Anything else you want us to do for you, your highness?

  • by cats-paw ( 34890 ) on Saturday July 08, 2023 @04:03PM (#63669063) Homepage

    How long have we known how to test chemicals to figure out how persistent they were in the environment ?
    20 years ? 30 years ?

    This is the result of sociopathic fucks in charge of these companies who knew good and well this would be a problem and made these chemicals anyway.

    Here's the important part, it's not simply that they made them, it's that they pushed the use of them _everywhere_.

    3M made way, way more than 10B off these chemicals or they would never have agreed to this. It's a PR move, nothing more. They've got more nasty shit in the pipeline that there going to sell, and we'll be wondering how this happened again a few years.

    Just like oxycodone was not a bad thing, but selling it like candy was a very bad thing. And what did those Sackler fucks get ? Billions of dollars and a slap on the wrist.

    But I forgot, the over regulation of American business is why people are poor and we don't freedom or something.

  • by dingo8mybaby ( 10459787 ) on Saturday July 08, 2023 @04:12PM (#63669091)
    This is the scenario where the externalities of making these chemicals may well end up costing the public more than it was ever profitable to the people making them at a profit. Future generations, saddled with shorter, less-healthy lives and the costs of mitigating the mess left behind but none of the profits, will rightly judge us harshly. Granted, we took the steps to close the ozone hole and our rivers aren't regularly on fire any more and there's a lot less acid in the rain than there once was- and it feels as though when they couldn't pollute in those ways they made up for it with microplastics in the oceans and these damned PFAS
    • The people who did not die or suffer severe burns due to the PFAS in AFFF and similar fire fighting products may disagree with you.

      They were and are very useful chemicals.

      As for plastics, look in your freezer. Everything is packaged in plastic for moisture control purposes. How much polyester do have in the closet? Ironically REI and every other camping supply store sells vast quantities of plastic clothes, tents, sleeping bags, etc, etc. "Don't wear cotton! Wear polypropylene/Dacron etc."

      The industry gave

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        Oh, these things are all very useful for their intended use cases, nobody ought to dispute that. Where these things become expensive and problematic is that once they're used (and discarded) they eventually become someone else's problem. Yes, we demand plastics and PFAS because they're useful We also just toss them and don't clean up because doing that is free vs. doing the right thing isn't If we're honest with ourselves, would we have accepted the total costs associated with their whole lifecycles if we
      • by Anonymous Coward

        The industry sold a promise plastic recycling though.Since this didn't materialize, I think it's only fair for said industry to clean up its own mess, and leave the tax payer alone.

  • Taint whatcha do its da way whatcha do it...That's what it's all about!

  • And if the "developmental delays" bit bears out, I think it would very likely end up being the culprit. We don't know why there's been a sudden outbreak of these symptoms over the last few decades. Vaccination went up drastically during that time period but then again, so did exposure to these chemicals.

  • by dysmal ( 3361085 ) on Saturday July 08, 2023 @07:39PM (#63669565)

    As if there weren't enough people buying bottled water (because they don't want dem kem-i-killz) already, here's more ammo for them to buy bottled water!

    It's sickening how often you see people in US grocery stores buying multiple cases of bottled water weekly. It's like they're stocking up for a sub-Saharan safari, except their kids are just going to school! There's no water shortage. There's no cholera in the US drinking water supply. Look at a drinking fountain in an airport. The surface is dry. Why? Because culturally there's a belief that tap water is bad and this of course is reinforcing that belief.

    I'll take my dose of forever chemicals, cancer causing agents, and the inevitable tail that will grow from my backside if it means fewer plastic bottles fucking up the ecosystem.

    • by RightwingNutjob ( 1302813 ) on Saturday July 08, 2023 @08:21PM (#63669611)

      It ain't the tap water. It's the dispenser.

      Most people's first and formative experiences of water fountains are in elementary schools. The primary users of those devices are not known for their hygiene skills. And the memory sticks into adulthood: do I want to drink out of something someone probably slobbered over or possibly pissed into when no one was looking?

      I drink out of the tap at home all the time. But if I'm travelling I buy bottled water.

    • I know what you're trying to say here, but look at the lawsuits over the water at Camp Lejeune. A lot of people spent their formative years in places where the government supplied water wasn't safe at all. Even worse, this wasn't disclosed to them until long after the damage was done. Flint, Michigan and Jackson, Mississippi are good examples of this outside of the military. A 5-gallon jug on a dispenser is a good balance between risky government water and individual plastic bottles.
  • by RightwingNutjob ( 1302813 ) on Saturday July 08, 2023 @08:16PM (#63669601)

    if it's harmful?

    I know: you overdose lab rats on it and see what happens. And if it's something scary, you assert that it's bad for you in small doses because it kills laboratory animals in high doses.

    Does that mean it's safe? I have no idea. All I know is that if you're telling me something that's everywhere in the environment is killing me slowly, I'll just back away slowly and refrain from making loud noises or sudden movements.

  • We could offset the PFAS by buying credits from clean water that is uncontaminated allowing us to continue to use PFAS in the water where we live.
  • ...we have widespread forever chemicals in our developed-world water supplies, many of which work as estrogen-analogues in the body.

    And we have a growing number of men who think they're women.

    I'm sure there's no connection.

  • There are small quantities of all kinds of contaminants in tap water. I get a quality report from my water supplier periodically that lists a dozen or so, and the amounts relative to what the EPA allows. They are always under the threshold but they still are present, and there is some evidence that the thresholds are too low. Any amount of arsenic is bad for example, and that's present in almost all surface water sources.

    But there's a cheap, simple solution. Run your drinking water through an activated carb

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