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No Exit: Rains Close the Roads In and Out of Burning Man (rgj.com) 163

Though it's Saturday at Nevada's desert-based Burning Man event "Dawn brought a growing realization for attendees that they might not be going home as planned, given rain forecast for later Saturday into Sunday..." reports the Reno Gazette-Journal. "More than 73,000 Burning Man attendees remain confined to their camps Saturday and are blocked from leaving the event after a slow-moving rainstorm turned their desert playground into a soupy, muddy morass."

Burning Man has now closed both its entrance and exits gates. "Organizers warned attendees to conserve their food and water, indicating the closures could be lengthy." There was no estimated time for reopening, and thousands of attendees are facing the potential of missing flights, failing to return rental cars or failing to return to work Tuesday. The event is set to officially end Monday but many people begin leaving Saturday night or Sunday...

The closures and order to remain in shelter come as the event was supposed reach its zenith on Saturday night with the burning of the giant wooden Man effigy towering over the temporary city. All vehicle traffic within the encampment has been halted, including servicing for the thousands of portable toilets that make the event possible. Organizers have also begun rationing ice sales... Given the conditions, which include forecast rain Sunday, it appears unlikely anyone will be permitted to drive out soon. Burning Man officials have not provided a comprehensive update on conditions, departure timing or even the multiple art burns scheduled for Saturday and Sunday. Longtime attendees said they can't remember a burn with this much rain...

Organizers banned vehicle traffic from the roads Friday afternoon and kept the exit gates closed as of 5 a.m. Saturday.

"Many attendees appeared to remain in good spirits, playing beer pong in the muddy streets or splashing in the standing water. Techno continued echoing around the encampment, and spontaneous dance parties kept breaking out."

"Walking was almost impossible Saturday morning, but started to improve as the ground began to dry. Then it began raining again."
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No Exit: Rains Close the Roads In and Out of Burning Man

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  • Oddities (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @07:50PM (#63818056) Journal

    I've lived in CA for more than half a century. Western weather has been really wonky the past 7 or so years. If it's not climate change, then it's a freak coincidence we got back to back oddities.

    • Tulare filled back in the 80s, and has done so regularly for a while. San Diego last got a hurricane in the late 19th century. San Francisco once got almost entirely destroyed by floods. I'm not sure the weather is all that strange; the weather cycles play out over decades.

    • Itâ(TM)s funny how people confirm their own bias by looking for oddities in weather patterns.

      I see front page news articles about âoewarmest two-day streak in first week of august everâ.

      Turned out there were many days with higher temperatures, and hotter two day streaks before and afterwards, and it was in a single weather station in the Netherlands, and the second highest streak was only 0.5 degrees colder, somewhere in the 60s.

      You can find oddities and records in weather data all the time.

      N

    • Narrator: "It was climate change"

  • by a7sharp9 ( 9019203 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:00PM (#63818072)
    That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp.
  • It's a dry lake bed (Score:5, Informative)

    by bruce_the_moose ( 621423 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:02PM (#63818078)

    They hold their party in a dry lake bed. This year, a year where the weather has been, quite frankly, a little extreme, the lake decided to attend. Shrugging emoji.

    • Lake Lahontin (Score:3, Informative)

      They hold their party in a dry lake bed. This year, a year where the weather has been, quite frankly, a little extreme, the lake decided to attend. Shrugging emoji.

      To be fair, Lake Lahontin [wikipedia.org] dried up 9,000 years ago.

      Or should humanity have waited a little longer?

      • Re:Lake Lahontin (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Gibgezr ( 2025238 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:24PM (#63818114)

        Dry lake beds and river courses are candidates for flooding when there's an unusual amount of rain. It does seem like holding an event with 70K+ people in what is essentially a giant flood basin waiting to be filled up is indeed a "bad idea".

        • by ghoul ( 157158 )
          The only way you can get that much land for a party is if the land is otherwise uninhabitable. So it pretty much has to be a dried up lake bed desert. Even a normal desert will have other uses.
          • by q_e_t ( 5104099 )
            Glastonbury is held on farmland. After clean up, it becomes farmland again. You could easily live on that land.
            • Ok then, next year Burning Man will be there
            • So is Wacken Open Air, in Germany.

              And incidentally, that was a mud pit this year too, but at least there's permanent infrastructure in the area.

              • by q_e_t ( 5104099 )
                An outdoor festival on a nice day is great, although often the sound is so-so. But in Europe, ones with lids and decent quality, er, facilities tend make more sense to me.
        • It's not as if you can know in advance though...

        • Dry lake beds and river courses are candidates for flooding when there's an unusual amount of rain. It does seem like holding an event with 70K+ people in what is essentially a giant flood basin waiting to be filled up is indeed a "bad idea".

          *looks at New Orleans*

          *looks at Hurricane Katrina history*

          *looks at New Orleans*

          Guess I'm not seeing the evidence that humans hold the capacity to grasp your concept...

          • Guess I'm not seeing the evidence that humans hold the capacity to grasp your concept...

            We're famously good at making decisions that we know with certainty are Bad Ideas. Hold my beer.

        • waiting to be filled

          That's hyperbole. No one is drowning. A few people are getting their feet wet and the road is a bit too muddy to pull their campers, that is it. Want to know why this is news? Because we've successfully run this event for 40 years without someone getting their feet wet incident.

          This place is a desert for a reason. 100s of millions of people live in far higher risk conditions than these festival goers who are being mildly inconvenienced. Calling it a "bad idea" is just silly.

      • Re:Lake Lahontin (Score:5, Informative)

        by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:28PM (#63818120)

        Rain and areal flooding is not particularly unusual in that basin.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

      • Re:Lake Lahontin (Score:4, Interesting)

        by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:39PM (#63818142)

        They hold their party in a dry lake bed. This year, a year where the weather has been, quite frankly, a little extreme, the lake decided to attend. Shrugging emoji.

        To be fair, Lake Lahontin [wikipedia.org] dried up 9,000 years ago.

        Or should humanity have waited a little longer?

        As with investing, "Past performance is no guarantee of future results."

    • Burning Man is now renamed "Burning Mud"

  • by ZipK ( 1051658 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:04PM (#63818084)

    Organizers warned attendees to conserve their food and water

    Food and water, sure, but what if they run out of DRUGS?

    • Organizers warned attendees to conserve their food and water

      Food and water, sure, but what if they run out of DRUGS?

      Also, the problem is that it's literally raining. Open your water bottle and hold it outside for more water.

      • That's probably not a working plan in itself, but one thing about burning man is that there's a lot of tarpage. If they can't build water collectors, they deserve to go thirsty.

        • ... If they can't build water collectors, they deserve to go thirsty.

          Ya, that is the logical extension of my comment/joke...

    • by tragedy ( 27079 )

      Food and water, sure, but what if they run out of DRUGS?

      I know you mean illicit drugs, but prescription medications are a real concern. 14% of the adult population in the US is diabetic, for example. Now, not all of those need to take insulin, and there's probably a self-selection bias that might make people with diabetes less likely to go and camp out in the desert in the first place. Still, even if we cut that down to say 4%, that would be about 3000 diabetics who may need insulin. That's just one medical condition. There may be many more affecting members of

      • Most diabetes sufferers are not insulin dependent. For the rest, if they are starving, they won't need those insulin meds. More likely, they will be needing sugar.

        • by HBI ( 10338492 )

          speak for yourself. I increase the longer I fast without insulin.

        • by tragedy ( 27079 )

          It's a large enough percentage of them that I would still expect north of a 1000 people in a crowd that size to need insulin.

        • by cstacy ( 534252 )

          Most diabetes sufferers are not insulin dependent. For the rest, if they are starving, they won't need those insulin meds. More likely, they will be needing sugar.

          It's a little more complicated than that. Many need to inject basal insulin every day, regardless of whether any food is eaten at all. Then, at each meal there is rapid-acting insulin, the kind you are more familiar with.

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    • Oh, the HUMANITY!
    • Food and water, sure, but what if they run out of DRUGS?

      Some rich guys are going to get more airdropped for them, don't worry.

  • Ok, that's funny right there!
    • For the record, I wanted to go this year but missed out on the ticket lottery.

      Sooooo glad for that right now.

      There are a lot of things to be grateful for today. One of those things is that you’re not at Burning Man. pic.twitter.com/YeqzzRxAxR
      — Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) September 2, 2023

      (Also for the record, I was there during Katrina. Continuous strong winds with tremendous gusts blowing tents and structures across the playa. That wa

      • by dpille ( 547949 ) on Sunday September 03, 2023 @12:54AM (#63818420)
        You're kidding, right? Katrina didn't get within 2000 miles of Burning Man.
  • by jfdavis668 ( 1414919 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:24PM (#63818112)
    It felt good to be out of the rain
  • by DrMrLordX ( 559371 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:40PM (#63818150)

    https://thehill.com/policy/ene... [thehill.com]

    They tried to warn everyone. Didn't work.

    (lol)

    • by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:54PM (#63818170)

      Burning Man used to be a counter culture festival where people could shoot off full auto weapons and blow up whatever you wanted. The rules were simple. If the above bothers you then don’t go. You will also be in the desert in August. If you don’t bring provisions then you will die. That covered the rules.

      Now celebrities show up in million dollar motor homes.

      • Now celebrities show up in million dollar motor homes.

        Hopefully, the million dollar price included the all-wheel-drive option.

      • by q_e_t ( 5104099 )
        Sounds like this year ond of those big amphibious tracked things the USMC uses would have been the smart move.
      • Burning Man used to be a counter culture festival where people could shoot off full auto weapons and blow up whatever you wanted.

        Yeah, it's been senseless since the cops started showing up in significant numbers, but people keep going despite the fact that it's over.

      • Sadly, a sign of times⦠the counter culture now is stick to the rules and make even more rules based on nothing but individual preferences and ideology, and then enforce them on everybody.

        • Sadly, a sign of times⦠the counter culture now is stick to the rules and make even more rules based on nothing but individual preferences and ideology, and then enforce them on everybody.

          I would imagine one of original drivers of Burning Man, was a disconnect from all the rules and limits of "society". An escape. And that was fine. In reasonable numbers.

          The only "sign of the times" everyone seems to overlook, is the very reason societies find a very need to establish rules; with great volume, comes great responsibility.

          Humans are fucking animals otherwise. Strip every current rule away from the current volume attending Burning Man and dare to prove that point.

          • I would imagine one of original drivers of Burning Man, was a disconnect from all the rules and limits of "society". An escape. And that was fine. In reasonable numbers.

            There's the rub. There should not be such a large festival to begin with. What's needed is more regional festivals.

            My lady, who used to go to burning man regularly, hasn't gone in a bunch of years as it jumped the shark some time ago. But what she often says she wants to see is the antithesis to BM, e.g. "Growing Woman" — a regionalized festival where instead of building a temple and burning it down the goal is to construct something of value which persists. You could for example have a festival where

            • by Tom ( 822 )

              a regionalized festival where instead of building a temple and burning it down the goal is to construct something of value which persists.

              If that were to be anywhere in Europe, I'd attend.

              I like the idea of Burning Man. I didn't like that it grew to the size it did. Never understood the appeal of music festivals with 100,000+ people either. Why are you there if you're a mile from the stage?

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      • Burning Man used to be a counter culture festival where people could shoot off full auto weapons and blow up whatever you wanted. The rules were simple. If the above bothers you then don’t go. You will also be in the desert in August. If you don’t bring provisions then you will die. That covered the rules.

        Speaking of rules, I just can't imagine why they stopped allowing a few thousand hippies fucked out of their minds on booze and drugs to continue shooting full auto weapons and blow up whatever they wanted.

        After all, only rich people can afford them now, so there should be plenty of money pouring out of million dollar motor homes for ammo.

    • Yep. Ironically all they had to do to let people at burning man know about the dangers of climate change was nothing.

  • Refreshing change (Score:5, Insightful)

    by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Saturday September 02, 2023 @09:04PM (#63818178)

    Nice to see some feel-good stories on slashdot once in a while.

  • You all know Burning Man is a libertarian paradise with no laws as each person going Galt and being self sufficient for a few days, right?

    The national guard has been called in. All these libertarians are now getting assistance from the federal government.

  • I hope none of the burning man attendees recently completed a Tough Mudder in, uh, neighbouring California.

  • by OpenSourced ( 323149 ) on Sunday September 03, 2023 @02:53AM (#63818518) Journal

    If you keep offering big burning sacrifices to the gods, they at last will hear you and send you the rain.

  • by Phydeaux314 ( 866996 ) on Sunday September 03, 2023 @06:24AM (#63818780)

    I'm on playa right now. While things are definitely different, the media's making a much bigger deal of this than it actually is. The rain primarily fell on Friday and Saturday, with the result being that the weekend burners couldn't make it in - most folks weren't trying to leave, a few panicked folks aside.

    Frankly, the worst part is that the portos are low on TP, but otherwise there's no real shortage of supplies for survival OR recreation. People are still partying, the bass speakers are still shaking the ground, and people are still out having fun.

    • I skipped to the end of the thread to get away from the political bullshit at the head of the page.

      I'm on playa right now.

      Wait - is that you choosing to use the technical term, or is that a technical term that has been retrofitted as a placename?

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playa -

      Landforms
      - Endorheic basin, also known as a sink, alkali flat or sabkha, a desert basin with no outlet which periodically fills with water to form a temporary lake -Dry lake, often called a playa in the southwestern United

      • Dude, if you spent like two minutes googling this, you'd see "the playa" is simply a nickname for the Black Rock Desert playa surface. This name has been in use since at least the 90s in the context of the Burning Man event. Compare this to every town in America having something like "The boulevard" or "The avenue."
  • ... partying out in the desert is supposed to be cool. How could this happen to us???
  • Piping hot and fresh!
  • If this were RussFest they also wouldn't be able to communicate if PiedPiper wasn't working.
  • Burning Man Live: 13 Years of Piss Clear, Black Rock City's Alternative Newspaper
    by Adrian Roberts (Editor)

  • Burning Man is the check-valve that ensures Silicon Valley's productivity.
  • Drowning Man.

  • by groobly ( 6155920 ) on Sunday September 03, 2023 @11:59AM (#63819670)

    Burning Man is the Woodstock experience for kids suffering from boomer envy. Finally, the same thing has happened as happened at Woodstock. Mission accomplished.

  • Some enterprising hovercraft owner could make a bundle delivering takeout.

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