US Spy Agency Dreams of Surveillance Underwear (theintercept.com) 82
The future of wearable technology, beyond now-standard accessories like smartwatches and fitness tracking rings, is ePANTS, according to the intelligence community. The Intercept: The federal government has shelled out at least $22 million in an effort to develop "smart" clothing that spies on the wearer and its surroundings. Similar to previous moonshot projects funded by military and intelligence agencies, the inspiration may have come from science fiction and superpowers, but the basic applications are on brand for the government: surveillance and data collection. Billed as the "largest single investment to develop Active Smart Textiles," the SMART ePANTS -- Smart Electrically Powered and Networked Textile Systems -- program aims to develop clothing capable of recording audio, video, and geolocation data, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence announced in an August 22 press release. Garments slated for production include shirts, pants, socks, and underwear, all of which are intended to be washable.
The project is being undertaken by the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity, the intelligence community's secretive counterpart to the military's better-known Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA. IARPA's website says it "invests federal funding into high-risk, high reward projects to address challenges facing the intelligence community." Its tolerance for risk has led to both impressive achievements, like a Nobel Prize awarded to physicist David Wineland for his research on quantum computing funded by IARPA, as well as costly failures. "A lot of the IARPA and DARPA programs are like throwing spaghetti against the refrigerator," Annie Jacobsen, author of a book about DARPA, "The Pentagon's Brain," told The Intercept. "It may or may not stick."
The project is being undertaken by the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity, the intelligence community's secretive counterpart to the military's better-known Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA. IARPA's website says it "invests federal funding into high-risk, high reward projects to address challenges facing the intelligence community." Its tolerance for risk has led to both impressive achievements, like a Nobel Prize awarded to physicist David Wineland for his research on quantum computing funded by IARPA, as well as costly failures. "A lot of the IARPA and DARPA programs are like throwing spaghetti against the refrigerator," Annie Jacobsen, author of a book about DARPA, "The Pentagon's Brain," told The Intercept. "It may or may not stick."
Gives new meaning to "G-String" (Score:5, Funny)
Also "underwire".
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Do Robots Dream of Electric Shorts?
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Do Robots Dream of Electric Shorts?
Spongebob Spypants?
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A conspiracy to... (Score:5, Funny)
And then the rest is history
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Forget the schizos, think of all the nutjobs who said covid vaccines would be injecting you with a tracking device.
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Great, so clothing stores will be targets for firebombs because the conspirdos are accusing them of "working with the gov't spooks to spy on all of us." Feel free to dream up additional 'supporting' content involving the Illuminati, lizard men, space aliens, men wearing red pajamas, etc...
In some cities in the USA they already are. And not a social worker in sight that is willing to talk these crazies down from their 'episode'.
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That would explain why they're mouthing off about it.
If the TLAs are actually doing this, they should STFU.
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"Hey Bob, you know what would really mess with paranoid schizophrenics?"
You must be tapping my phone, I don't wear any pants at all.
Re: A conspiracy to... (Score:2)
When Moscow put novichok on Navalny's underpants and how he got on the phone with the guy who did it kudos bellingcat is really hard to beat in terms of crazy spy shit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
I Would Love To Fart In It. (Score:3)
Spy on that.
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Spy on that.
Don't give your medical insurance company or gastrointestinal industry, any ideas.
That kind of shitty idea will get funding flying like a fart in high wind.
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To paraphrase a line from Despicable Me:
No, no. I said smart underwear, not... Okay.
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Mythbusters did that. [youtube.com]
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So mistbusters with a lisp.
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Can it alert me when my zipper is down? (Score:1)
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You may see it as a pointless $22M. But even if you don't get the smart knickers, you may still do progress in smart wearables. And that's valuable in all kind of situation, civil, military, and intelligence.
So I don't think it is actually a waste of public funds.
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You may see it as a pointless $22M. But even if you don't get the smart knickers, you may still do progress in smart wearables. And that's valuable in all kind of situation, civil, military, and intelligence.
So I don't think it is actually a waste of public funds.
Prove that data gathering doesn't involve Greed capturing it for the purposes of marketing exploitation for profit, or selling your data to those you're already paying a mandatory monthly medical premium for, and then I'll believe that smart pants have some "value" beyond what Greed sells you.
You really haven't figured out yet why social media has a free price tag, have you? Sad.
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Maybe we'll cut back on a fucking $22 million dollar spaghetti budget that way.
While I don't condone wasteful spending*, according to the Treasury [treasury.gov] the US Federal Government spent $6.27T (Trillion) in FY 2022 and $5.3T in FY 2023 -- $22M (Million) is, basically, a rounding error.
[*Noting that research often can't be categorized as wasteful in advance.]
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As my old boss said, a million here, a million there...pretty soon you're talking about real money.
The reason we talk in trillions, is because of conversations like this. Too many people, dismissing too many millions. And then billions.
Re:Seeing if Stupid sticks. (Score:4, Funny)
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"...has been attributed to Dirksen, but there is no direct record of Dirksen saying the remark."
Well at least that tends to explain why others borrow it so casually...
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Until recently the US Defence Department paid the NFL millions to hold those weird rallies at football matches. A few million for smarty pants is nothing.
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South Park needs to do a Towelie episode with this (Score:2)
The smart underwear can spy on Towelie and get him busted.
Failure due to power requirements (Score:2)
If you want an agent or asset to have covert surveillance ability, we can already build some pretty decent stuff into a belt, but other than that people are going to notice the battery pack if nothing else.
What you really want to do it is plant RFID tags in your target's clothing, and then hide antennas near doorways of their most commonly frequented places. But a covert camera across the street with facial recognition software is probably still a better idea.
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I'd imagine it would run on methane.
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Through-wall technology does indeed exist. And so does terahertz imaging, which goes through clothing fairly easily. We can also embed passive devices in walls, but they're useless for more than focusing existing radio waves.
What you're not going to do though, is beat the inverse square law. Not only do the electronics take power to run, but the radio signal they use to deliver the information they collect needs enough power to get a viable signal to your receiver.
If you want that signal to go more than
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If you want an agent or asset to have covert surveillance ability, we can already build some pretty decent stuff into a belt, but other than that people are going to notice the battery pack if nothing else.
What you really want to do it is plant RFID tags in your target's clothing, and then hide antennas near doorways of their most commonly frequented places. But a covert camera across the street with facial recognition software is probably still a better idea.
Edible RFID tags in fast food and tracking around the high streets and malls.
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Edible RFID tags in fast food and tracking around the high streets and malls.
Edible RFID tags in cheese wheels [slashdot.org]. With blockchain, natch.
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Edible RFID tags in fast food and tracking around the high streets and malls.
Edible RFID tags in cheese wheels [slashdot.org]. With blockchain, natch.
Hmmm cheeseburger... poutine...
Who shit my pants? (Score:1)
At long last, I can find out the answer by requesting the surveillance data.
Fool them all (Score:2)
Wear a dress.
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Wear a dress.
These days that's just passe, everyone gets to wear dresses.
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Red states will probably ban it.
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Red states will probably ban it.
You mean the communists?
Oi. (Score:2)
FBI's wet dream (Score:2)
This is the equivalent to the UK putting a surveillance camera in every child's bedroom: Their privacy is protected by an absence of privacy. It's the same idea as police drones at outdoor parties: The police fishing for petty crimes by invading a de facto privacy, which these days rarely exists because someone will publish your private moment to Youtube/X [Twitter]/Facebook.
This is the FBI's wet dream: Your clothes are the interfering busybody and snitch. The point isn't spying on drug-dealers and '
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..which these days rarely exists because someone will publish your private moment to Youtube/X [Twitter]/Facebook.
Maybe one day people will start inviting friends to parties again instead of attention whores.
Spy butt plugs will be the next thing (Score:2)
in the spying community.
They are secretly testing them out in the chess and poker community with great success.
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in the spying community. They are secretly testing them out in the chess and poker community with great success.
The spying community? That's who went all in funding Neimanns lawsuit?
Not sure how successful it was. After all, he backed out and settled...
get smart (Score:3)
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Sorry about that, Chief!
Good thing (Score:1)
speedball (Score:2)
\o/ (Score:1)
A bold move, a value judgement and a product name in one.
16 Million (Score:2)
They just busted an NSA guy with 16M dicpics on his home computer.
Story checks out.
My dream (Score:2)
spy cockring (Score:2)
The Ad industry (Score:2)
would love it even more.
aroused (Score:1)
So how much more tax waste we talkin about (Score:1)
Carrington event all zappy event asks (Score:1)
Generate a log (Score:3)
Are you wearing a wire? (Score:2)
Can't wait for the new remake of "The Wire" TV-series; "The ePants".
/NOT/ AFJ??? (Score:1)
In related news, the original poster's calendar was still set to 2023/04/01.
I'll know I'm a victim of this nefarious scheme (Score:2)
...when I start receiving free cases of Beano from some anonymous benefactor.
Mormon Design (Score:2)
Ultimate underwear oversight.
Countermeasures (Score:2)
I guess in the near future a lot of new clothing will first be taken to a tailor who will remove any metal zippers, buttons, etc. Then the garments will spend some time in a microwave oven. I suspect that would disable the spytronics.
Alternatively, I foresee small EMP generators specifically designed to destroy the spytronics and leave the clothing intact. Or the clothes could be spun rapidly in a strong magnetic field, such as the bore of an MRI machine. The induced current would probably fry some electron
Well hello Mr. (Score:2)
Secret Feature (Smell-O-Rama) (Score:1)