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Max Removes 4K Streaming, Other Perks From Ad-Free Plan (droid-life.com) 70

A long-time Slashdot reader writes: Continuing the seemingly industry-wide trend towards enshitification of the Subscription Video on Demand (SVOD) marketplace, Max today announced that it will be making changes to the current Ad-Free plan. To wit, 4K HDR with Dolby Atmos will be removed and concurrent streams will decrease from three to two.

In other words, you are paying the same price for less features. If you wish to keep the features you've had all along, all you have to do is upgrade to Ultimate Ad-Free at a 33% premium for the annual plan or 25% increase for monthly. No news yet on a crackdown of password sharing, however, that seems inevitable as the industry races to the bottom.

Meet the new cable boss, same as the old, except, they bring death by several small cuts instead of a single large one.

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Max Removes 4K Streaming, Other Perks From Ad-Free Plan

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  • by Anonymous Coward
    Already cancelled Max, Hulu, Netflix, and Apple TV+ Their content is trash anymore. I've seen all the TV i'll likely ever watch. Nothing worth watching is still being produced. My money is better spent in services I'll actually get use out of. So I went back to DJ-ing, re-purchased all my DJ gear, Switched all my subscription money from the above services to Virtual DJ, Beatport, Amazon Music, Tidal, Soundcloud, and SoundSwitch for my DMX lighting. First paying gig is on the 11th... I guess those other serv
  • by Fly Swatter ( 30498 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @03:53PM (#63975208) Homepage
    Even Nextgen TV, otherwise known as ATSC 3.0, has run into trouble as it turns out the underlying signal modulation is under a patent and was successfully won in court such that LG has dropped using ATSC 3.0 tuners from next year's TV line up. What a mess.
  • It says a lot about the power of willful ignorance that people can see things like this happening regularly, and still think that establishing themselves on Threads is a good idea.

  • As someone who watches TV from a reasonable distance, I don't really see the need for 4k. I have had a 4k capable TV for years, mostly because that's how they make them. When will they launch the Cinemax 24/7 scramble porn channel?
  • by mustafap ( 452510 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:00PM (#63975236) Homepage

    This reminds me of when Slashdot was sold. It's probably the first example of enshitification.

  • by sixsixtysix ( 1110135 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:05PM (#63975256)
    I've subbed since day one, but this is too much. Back to torrenting, I guess.
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      • My advice, don't ask do, set up a media server like plex, automatically download the shows you are interested in in and make it easy to use. If its even slightly difficult they won't use it. That's why netflix gained market share, because it was easier than torrents, all the entertainment you could ever want in 1 place. But now since all the content is spread all over I think torrenting will be easier once again.

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          • You can add them from other sources but now we're into a time value of money discussion. I have to go find the subs, fire up ffmpeg, play enough of the episode to make sure the re-encode is good, upload it to the media server.... It's a massive time suck.

            Why would you go through all that trouble? Reencoding?
            If your client/player can't read and render subtitles without them being embedded in the video stream you really need to find another server and/or player.
            And while I can't speak for what plex can do, I know other similar systems even feature the ability to download subtitles right in the video player.

          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            I guess it's because you want non-English subtitles, because most "webrip" releases (i.e. from streaming services) include at least English these days. For non-English subtitles I've found it best to look for region specific torrent sites, where you can usually find episodes with the subtitles included.

            Maybe look into better playback software too. You shouldn't have to mux anything with ffmpeg, anything decent will load subtitles from a separate file. Usually if the file has the same name but a different ex

          • If you can get an invite to a good quality private tracker group, you'll be hard-pressed to find a torrent without subs. Ironically, a foreign-language group is your best best, particularly from countries with a marginal language, who are in any case used to English subs. Since they go to the trouble of including subs in their extractions, they tend to always include English as well as the foreign language. Trouble is that auto-translate may not work, for using the site itself. Many of them are in English a
      • I hear this. I wanted to cancel Netflix but my wife said no. We share a friend's Max, and I don't think the 4K thing is a huge deal, but if it suddenly gets ads, that's the last streaming service to fall, for me. Have pretty much 80% returned to torrents now. Five years ago I rarely bothered.
    • people just dont understand how much bandwidth 4k eats. its why even YouTube has pay walled it.
  • As an arrr-turnative, you can pay less for more features!
  • I think we're overusing 'enshitification' for things that are really just scummy corporate profit grabs.

    That said? WB isn't going to stop messing around and screwing up until HBO's legacy is so tarnished no one else will touch it. We still watch a few HBO shows, and some of the older / syndicated content WB has added is nice to watch without commercials (so far??). But I'm almost certain this will be step one in an ever-escalating war with the subscribers. They'll try to find ways to push us all toward the

    • No, I believe enshitification describes the dot com culture rather well.

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      • I don't think this particular case with Max counts as enshitification. It's just a price increase, You can still get all the features the article is talking about, you just have to pay more.

        As for Netflix, for at least 6 years their TOS have said that password sharing outside your "household" is not allowed. When I signed up maybe 4 years ago, I knew it wasn't covered, although I shared my password anyway. And you can still share your account, you just have to pay more, which is what I do now.

        I do think ens

  • /hint /hint

  • by Tyr07 ( 8900565 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:24PM (#63975320)

    It's the regular MO of most corporations these days. "We're different and better! Come to us!"....."Okay well we're profitable, so a few changes....."We're doing fine but, it's like their is a finite population or something so we need something else since "growth" has stalled. We're going to implement the same things you ran away from to come to us anyway since we're the only choice now / so many of you are here we're hoping it's not the worth the hassle of switching'.

    It doesn't matter the product or the thing. They always start open and great, then once they think they 'got' you, they put the crappy money scabbing practices in place. It's like governments, kings, etc. People rise up, demand to be free, put heads on pikes, revolt. Things get worse for a bit, but then things get better for awhile. Eventually the troubles of the past begin to fade a bit, and someone shows up to enshittify things again. Confident that "This time" they'll do it right and have completel control over everyone, locked them down and oppress them for their own gain...

    and the cycle repeats, same with companies/. "This time, the shitty thing will work". Ye old bait and switch.

    • by sixoh1 ( 996418 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:48PM (#63975638) Homepage

      it's like their is a finite population or something so we need something else since "growth" has stalled.

      Here's a thought exercise, are these "growth" strategies really business, or are they just the result of hollowing out actual productive businesses to make financial
      games work?

      Part of the entire conceptual model of disaggregation and unbundling is that there's a ton of dead weight in the sales channel - the so-called "middle men" - and by eliminating this dead weight, everything will be cheaper and easier to acquire... once a few markets did this, like airline tickets through travel agents vs. buying your own on CrappyAirline.com, it looked like a golden rain of cashflow to the investment folks. They expect _every_ business to be able to find some middle-man to cut out, and thereby increase profit. They are so wedded to this idea that they keep funding endless "Web3.0" companies who's only model is to eliminate some middle-man somewhere, and expect automatic profit. Now every other business, including established old line things like cable companies and car manufacturers, are held in comparison, but are not remotely comparable. If you are an old-line business like a TV company, cable company, etc. you've _already_ eliminated most if not all middle-men, and so the _only_ way to increase profits is to gouge both your suppliers and your customers.

      The result is an endless set of rotating hammers, powered by fisc, destroying trust, loyalty and quality of service. *sigh* talk about a bummer.

  • "Racing to the bottom" means cutting corners to offer the lowest possible price. Curbing password sharing isn't a race to the bottom. It's not even ethically objectionable, because a subscription company has every right to make sure that the people using the service are in fact paying for it. The free ride was nice while it lasted, but nobody complaining has a leg to stand on.

    • by sixoh1 ( 996418 )

      The free ride was nice while it lasted, but nobody complaining has a leg to stand on.

      Except TFA is not talking about password sharing, the entire point is repricing, rebranding and re-selling something you already thought you were paying for, kind of like BMW setting "heated seats subscription" ... its entirely immoral and unethical to bait and switch by taking an established functionality that was part of the marketing campaign which convinced you to sign up for a service tier, and then arbitrarily change the tiers. That used to be called false advertising, but its not like everyone didn't

  • Less instant but far more fun to see that seeding bar going up >:
  • by NagrothAgain ( 4130865 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:48PM (#63975640)
    This isn't a new boss it's literally the old boss, you're just dealing with them directly instead of through the cable company.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      I think they were referring to the fact that since HBO was bought they have gone to shit. Cancelled most of their good content, made their streaming service unattractive, a shell of what they once were.

  • Today I saw a billboard for the "first Netflix, Disney+ and Discovery+ bundle." All three services for one price! Brought back bad memories of cable packages.

  • What about cable TV subscribers who get HBO Max through their cable TV subscription? Are they affected by this?

  • Is this Cinemax?

    It's probably obvious to people who keep up with the TV hobby, granted.

  • by Xpendable ( 1605485 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @08:59PM (#63975814)
    go back to reading books. I'm getting tired of this crap. I've got too many streaming services and they are all going up in price, showing ads even though I'm a paying subscriber, and removing content that I used to have access to. Seriously, me and my family are going to go back to reading books.
    • im back to getting dvd of my movies. you can pick them up for next to nothing now and guess what they dont get removed from my streaming service.
  • When ATT stops paying for my Max subscription I will be done with the service. Honestly, overall it is my least favorite streaming service. HBO simply is not what it used to be. They advertise old moves like the are new content, and they offer regular TV shows that I have never had a desire to see even when they were new.I wish HBO was just HBO again. It isn't, and I am not any more loyal to the company than they are to me.
  • With how shit modern content is these services should be paying me for watching, even without ads they're always trying to sell more burgers.
  • I don't see any point in being mad about this, it was inevitable.

    Prices are rising all over for everything. It costs more money to stream 4k video... so just like the shrinkflation in grocery stores, the way they keep the prices for the service the same for most people is to charge more for the larger content, thus saving enough they can keep pricing the same for base service for a little while longer.

    So because costs rise people will be more selective and buy fewer services... just like they are doing wit

  • Have been literally waiting for an excuse to cancel Max. Although they do host good content, the new good content can be consumed in bursts every six months or so. I want my shit in 4k, and Iâ(TM)m not paying for the Ultimate plan every month to sustain. I will happily cancel now and rejoin for a month in a year to catch up on what I have missed.
  • It seems all ad-free programs go this way. They can't stand that they exist and will squeeze them, limit them, price them into oblivion until everyone is getting ads crammed down their throat.

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