US Tech Innovation Dreams Soured By Changed R&D Tax Laws (theregister.com) 35
Brandon Vigliarolo reports via The Register: A US federal tax change that took effect in 2022 thanks to a time-triggered portion of the Trump-era Tax Cuts and Jobs Act may leave entrepreneurs with massive tax bills. Section 174 of the US tax code -- prior to the passage of the 2017 TCJA -- allowed companies to handle the tax bill of their specified research or experimental (SRE) budgets in one of two ways: Either capitalized and amortized over the course of five years, or written off annually. Of the many things covered by SRE, most crucially for our purposes is "any amount paid or incurred in connection with the development of any software," which includes developer salaries.
The TCJA included a post-dated change to Section 174 that took effect on January 1, 2022 that would no longer allow companies to automatically expense any SRE costs on an annual basis. Going forward they'd all have to be amortized over five years -- a potential budgetary disaster for companies that haven't been doing so in the past. As pointed out by Gergely Orosz of The Pragmatic Engineer, a theoretical company with $1m in revenue and $1m of software developer salary costs could have claimed it had no taxable profit in 2021. The required SRE amortization rate of 10 percent would mean the org had $900k in profit in 2022 -- and a six-figure tax bill coming due the following year. This isn't theoretical -- Orosz said that he recently spoke to several engineers and entrepreneurs who've been surprised with massive tax bills that have led to layoffs, reduced hiring, and left some companies in financial distress.
House of Representatives member Ron Estes (R-KS), who last year sponsored a bill to restore Section 174 to its pre-TCJA option to expense or amortize, likewise said an a late-2023 op-ed that the changes have led to R&D at US companies -- not just in the tech sector -- shrinking considerably. "Since amortization took effect, the growth rate of R&D spending has slowed dramatically from 6.6 percent on average over the previous five years to less than one-half of 1 percent over the last 12 months," Estes said. "The [R&D] sector is down by more than 14,000 jobs." [...] That, and the Section 174 changes make the US far less enticing as a place to open a business or do R&D, and the only one with such forced amortization in the world. Not much is being done to fix the TCJA problem with Section 174. The Estes bill, along with a related bill introduced in the Senate in March 2023, have not undergone a committee hearing since their introduction. The White House hasn't mentioned anything about Section 174.
Meanwhile, the IRS released a notice (PDF) reminding tax payers about Section 174's changes.
The TCJA included a post-dated change to Section 174 that took effect on January 1, 2022 that would no longer allow companies to automatically expense any SRE costs on an annual basis. Going forward they'd all have to be amortized over five years -- a potential budgetary disaster for companies that haven't been doing so in the past. As pointed out by Gergely Orosz of The Pragmatic Engineer, a theoretical company with $1m in revenue and $1m of software developer salary costs could have claimed it had no taxable profit in 2021. The required SRE amortization rate of 10 percent would mean the org had $900k in profit in 2022 -- and a six-figure tax bill coming due the following year. This isn't theoretical -- Orosz said that he recently spoke to several engineers and entrepreneurs who've been surprised with massive tax bills that have led to layoffs, reduced hiring, and left some companies in financial distress.
House of Representatives member Ron Estes (R-KS), who last year sponsored a bill to restore Section 174 to its pre-TCJA option to expense or amortize, likewise said an a late-2023 op-ed that the changes have led to R&D at US companies -- not just in the tech sector -- shrinking considerably. "Since amortization took effect, the growth rate of R&D spending has slowed dramatically from 6.6 percent on average over the previous five years to less than one-half of 1 percent over the last 12 months," Estes said. "The [R&D] sector is down by more than 14,000 jobs." [...] That, and the Section 174 changes make the US far less enticing as a place to open a business or do R&D, and the only one with such forced amortization in the world. Not much is being done to fix the TCJA problem with Section 174. The Estes bill, along with a related bill introduced in the Senate in March 2023, have not undergone a committee hearing since their introduction. The White House hasn't mentioned anything about Section 174.
Meanwhile, the IRS released a notice (PDF) reminding tax payers about Section 174's changes.
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Here's a one paragraph ChatGPT summary:
A change in U.S. federal tax law, part of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, has impacted American tech companies, especially regarding research and development (R&D). Before 2022, companies could manage their R&D tax bills in two ways: either spreading the cost over five years or writing it off annually. However, since January 1, 2022, all R&D expenses must be spread out over five years. This change has led to unexpected large tax bills for some companies, affecting their finances, causing layoffs, and reducing hiring. Critics say this makes the U.S. less attractive for starting businesses or conducting R&D, especially in tech. Despite efforts to revert these tax changes, there hasn't been much progress in Congress.
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Tech heavily voted for Biden and democrats.
They should be celebrating. They finally got a politician who is doing what he campaigned on!
I'm happy to see the tech companies get what they voted for.
When this law was created, in 2017, you had:
Donald Trump - President
Republican majority in the House
Republican majority in the Senate
Joe Biden was not in any political office
So, yes, this is obviously the fault of Joe Biden and the Democrats.
Re:They Should be Happy (Score:5, Insightful)
Tech heavily voted for Biden and democrats.
They should be celebrating. They finally got a politician who is doing what he campaigned on!
I'm happy to see the tech companies get what they voted for.
When this law was created, in 2017, you had: Donald Trump - President Republican majority in the House Republican majority in the Senate Joe Biden was not in any political office So, yes, this is obviously the fault of Joe Biden and the Democrats.
This, combined with the cap on state tax deductions, was likely a very deliberate and calculated attack on California by Republicans, and we won't soon forget it.
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Until one year ago the Speaker of the House was a Democrat from San Francisco and could have passed this into permanency on a party line for her constituents, even it weren't bi-partisan (it would have been).
She should have sobered up and represented SF, not globocommies.
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Until one year ago the Speaker of the House was a Democrat from San Francisco and could have passed this into permanency on a party line for her constituents, even it weren't bi-partisan (it would have been).
She should have sobered up and represented SF, not globocommies.
And it would have been dead on arrival in the Senate.
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So, yes, this is obviously the fault of Joe Biden and the Democrats.
Undoubtedly a conspiracy. They probably put the Republicans in power in order to make them look bad.
Funny accounting (Score:2, Insightful)
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I think you meant to say "you would owe taxes on 1m," not "owe 1m in taxes." More importantly, what you you suggest a nation do about tax cheating corporations that make 1m in profit, and in order to pay no taxes on it they create a subsidiary in a tax-free jurisdiction, have the subsidiary produce a bogus product or service which they sell to the corporation for 1m, shifting all the profit to the tax-free jurisdiction with just a little paperwork?
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Anything that you do amortization wise for corporate taxation does not bring in more revenue for the government, it just discourages investment by having companies pay artificial tax bills up front. That might make sense for something that is financed over decades like a major construction project, but it is a disaster for research and development.
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Suppose that you make $1m in revenue selling burgers, and then you buy $1m worth of meat to make more burgers. You won't owe taxes, since the meat is part of your costs for making and selling those burgers.
Suppose that instead of buying meat, you buy a burger-making factory which costs $10m and lasts ten years. Same deal, you're allowed to subtract $1m per year for ten years from your revenue, or $10m immediately, to account for the cost of making burgers with the machine and having to eventually replace it
Treating IP Assets as if Physical Assets (Score:2)
For the software shop that historically broke even, they should be claiming that they are providing services rather than selling software. It is highly likely that the software they are selling is highly configured to match one or two customers.
I looked in to this a bit and what I found was... (Score:2)
This seemed like it mostly dealt with people outsourcing R&D.
If you have engineers doing stuff on staff, this doesn't affect you(from what I found)
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If I read this right, they still get the deduction (Score:2)
but they can't claim it all in the same year...
" Going forward they'd all have to be amortized over five years -- a potential budgetary disaster for companies that haven't been doing so in the past."
So if a company had a good accountant, that paid attention to the planned change in the tax law, they would have been ready for this.
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They've had 5 years to prepare (Score:2, Funny)
If they aren't prepared, then that's just too bad. Perhaps their accountants are overpaid.
"Hey US Congress, have you tried doing your job?" (Score:2)
Tech Innovation Dreams? (Score:2)
That law has the stupidest name (Score:1)
I really wish we could stop dancing this Charleston. Every few years the Americans put the Republicans in charge and they massively deregulate and cut taxes on the wealthy while ignoring the national debt that they themselves are rackin
Poor 1%'ers have to pay a tax! (Score:1)
Funny that the soap bubble here on /. cries about the "rich" until it hits the tech world and then ... but orange man bad!
Outsourcing FTW (Score:2)
This has to be for companies that contract their software development out. Employee salaries are deductible for companies, so if the costs were for software developers employed by the company they'd be deducted from revenue before taxes were calculated and the scenario given would result in 0 tax liability.
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This is not. Go talk to a CPA
Tax breaks (Score:2)
Flat tax (Score:2)
Does this only matter for new companies? (Score:2)
Most established companies have been doing SRE things for many years, so whether the the SRE expense is immediately deductible or done so over several years shouldn't matter. It's like a 4-year vesting schedule for RSUs. Only the new employees are penalized by the multi-year vesting schedule. For employees who have been receiving the benefit for many years, it doesn't matter.
I guess if the SRE budget is wildly variable from year to year, that might make a difference. Maybe that's the real gripe, that th