Humans To Push Further Into Wildlife Habitats Across More Than 50% of Land by 2070, Study Says 65
Over the next 50 years, people will push further into wildlife habitats across more than half the land on Earth, scientists have found, threatening biodiversity and increasing the chance of future pandemics. From a report: Humans have already transformed or occupied between 70% and 75% of the world's land. Research published in Science Advances on Wednesday found the overlap between human and wildlife populations is expected to increase across 57% of the Earth's land by 2070, driven by human population growth.
[...] As humans and animals share increasingly crowded landscapes, the bigger overlap could result in higher potential for disease transmission, biodiversity loss, animals being killed by people and wildlife eating livestock and crops, the researchers said. Biodiversity loss is the leading driver of infectious disease outbreaks. About 75% of emerging diseases in humans are zoonotic, meaning they can be passed from animals to humans, and many diseases concerning global health authorities -- including Covid-19, mpox, avian flu and swine flu -- likely originated in wildlife.
[...] As humans and animals share increasingly crowded landscapes, the bigger overlap could result in higher potential for disease transmission, biodiversity loss, animals being killed by people and wildlife eating livestock and crops, the researchers said. Biodiversity loss is the leading driver of infectious disease outbreaks. About 75% of emerging diseases in humans are zoonotic, meaning they can be passed from animals to humans, and many diseases concerning global health authorities -- including Covid-19, mpox, avian flu and swine flu -- likely originated in wildlife.
How and Why? (Score:3, Interesting)
What would be causing people to intrude MORE into wildlife and wooded areas on earth?
Seems LESS people would mean less need to expand the lands we occupy...?
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Ok, with all the news about human birthrates dropping....
Globally the population is still rising although the rate of increase has slowed and it is expected to peak in the mid 2080s before starting to decline.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2... [un.org]
Global population still growing (Score:5, Informative)
Ok, with all the news about human birthrates dropping....
What would be causing people to intrude MORE into wildlife and wooded areas on earth?
Because global population is still very much increasing and will continue to do so for quite some time to come https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org].
On top of that most the growth is third world driven so first world nations are likely to continue to grow in overall population for a good while longer as well.
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You are working with dated and incorrect information.
No I'm not. Cite a source as I did if my data is bad.
Global population NOT growing (Score:4, Informative)
It isn't. There are 3 countries of any size growing in population. India, Nigeria and the 3rd I don't remember at the moment. Maybe Indonesia. Global population has been shrinking for a couple of years now (perhaps peaked between 2019-2022).
Don't know where you're getting your data, but you're incorrect. World population is at the moment continuing to grow, although the rate of growth has significantly decreased.
https://www.scientificamerican... [scientificamerican.com]
https://images.sbs.com.au/80/a... [sbs.com.au]
I expect you may be thinking about a recent article that the population is predicted to shrink. But the peak is predicted to occur in the late 2080s. Right now, it's still rising.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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The global population continues to grow, in large part because people are living longer. Longer lives mean more people alive at the same time.
Maybe you are getting confused with birth rate, which is falling in many places. Not fast enough to offset improvements in healthcare and life expectancy though, at least not on a global level.
The world is on target from between 10 and 12 billion people by the end of the century.
Re: How and Why? (Score:5, Informative)
It's when rates fall below replacement level that population reduces. Some developed countries have done so, but not all or even most. It is estimated that population will hit 10 billion before declining.
Because we really need 20% more humans?
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We baked the planet, limiting food supply in certain areas, requiring more intrusion even if our populations are slowly shrinking.
Cannibalism? Maybe Donnie is on to something with his Hannibal Lecter Theory...
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Birth rates are falling. Fertility is falling. Population is not, but the fact that most people seem to be convinced it is, and that it's truly something to be concerned about, is a good sign that the propaganda wing of big business, which requires more more more more MORE MORE MORE of everything, always, forever, is working. More humans = more profit potential. Falling birthrates have most of the oligarchs of the world, including those in charge in the United States, to go batshit crazy trying to sort out
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Birth rates are falling. Fertility is falling. Population is not, but the fact that most people seem to be convinced it is, and that it's truly something to be concerned about, is a good sign that the propaganda wing of....
From my experience, the people who legitimately think population is falling are a} white, b} men who c} fear immigrants that will take their unfairly large slice of pie.
Oh, sure, it's okay if Bob the UPS driver down the street "has faith" and know God says 'sex is only for procreation', so has eight kids. Bob's white. But if Amir brings his family of five from Somalia or some other war-torn shit-hole and goes to work as a pharmacist, well, that's just not right.
Corporate consumption is definitely pres
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It's times like this Slashdot needs reaccs so we can just laugh-emoji you and move on.
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What would be causing people to intrude MORE into wildlife and wooded areas on earth?
Significant portions of the lands we currently occupy will be uninhabitable in another 50 years.
It's time to cap developed land coverage (Score:1)
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Another bad Guardian article (Score:4, Informative)
Article says:
"Humans have already transformed or occupied between 70% and 75% of the world’s land. Research published in Science Advances on Wednesday found the overlap between human and wildlife populations is expected to increase across 57% of the Earth’s land by 2070, driven by human population growth."
Article links to article https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.10... [pnas.org] that says:
"Even 12,000 y ago, nearly three quarters of Earth’s land was inhabited and therefore shaped by human societies, including more than 95% of temperate and 90% of tropical woodlands"
Re:Another bad Guardian article (Score:4, Insightful)
Yep! You really have to cross-check these statistics and percentages they throw around to justify their articles, these days.
Often, they're misleading or just plain wrong.
If anything, we have some problems with the particular lands they're choosing to terraform. For example, we know they're chopping down the tropical rainforest at a rapid pace -- and there's a lot of habitat there that probably can't survive anyplace else. Plus, losing that many trees can't be good either.
But there's also a whole lot of "wide open space" on the planet that I imagine a lot of these studies are blanket-labeling as "occupied by humans" simply because someone has ownership. Throughout much of America, you definitely see this with huge swaths of farmland. It's only "populated" in the sense farmers are growing crops on it. But it's not like we're packing families into new housing developments all over it and paving it with concrete and asphalt.
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Yep! You really have to cross-check these statistics and percentages they throw around to justify their articles, these days. Often, they're misleading or just plain wrong.
If anything, we have some problems with the particular lands they're choosing to terraform. For example, we know they're chopping down the tropical rainforest at a rapid pace -- and there's a lot of habitat there that probably can't survive anyplace else. Plus, losing that many trees can't be good either.
But there's also a whole lot of "wide open space" on the planet that I imagine a lot of these studies are blanket-labeling as "occupied by humans" simply because someone has ownership. Throughout much of America, you definitely see this with huge swaths of farmland. It's only "populated" in the sense farmers are growing crops on it. But it's not like we're packing families into new housing developments all over it and paving it with concrete and asphalt.
No, but farmed land is not wild land. As someone who actively farmed for a significant enough chunk of his life I still remember it pretty well, there was a big difference in the parts of our land we farmed, and the parts that were left wild. Even pastures aren't necessarily wild. This may not count the same as paved street and high rises, but it is land not available to wildlife in general, despite the roaming coyotes, wolves, and deer crossing over it from time to time.
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Yep! You really have to cross-check these statistics and percentages they throw around to justify their articles, these days. Often, they're misleading or just plain wrong.
If anything, we have some problems with the particular lands they're choosing to terraform. For example, we know they're chopping down the tropical rainforest at a rapid pace -- and there's a lot of habitat there that probably can't survive anyplace else. Plus, losing that many trees can't be good either.
But there's also a whole lot of "wide open space" on the planet that I imagine a lot of these studies are blanket-labeling as "occupied by humans" simply because someone has ownership. Throughout much of America, you definitely see this with huge swaths of farmland. It's only "populated" in the sense farmers are growing crops on it. But it's not like we're packing families into new housing developments all over it and paving it with concrete and asphalt.
Current World Population 8,172,147,719
:p with just 3 Countries could easily give every single person, man, women, and child a Acre of Land to live on for the Rest of their life, how many other countries do we have left? 160+ ???
Russia
- 4,046,810,880 acres
Canada
- 2,247,055,257 Acres
China
- 2,319,877,459
These Stats are completely bonkers, people just trying to fear monger and start a depopulation movement, the only way for that to happen is for Mass Starvation/Famine or Large Scale Genocide, these ar
Beaten to Death by Buggy Whips (Score:1)
Say hello to COVID 2.0 (Score:3, Interesting)
We could control it before it gets out of hand... if we stop election has-been gameshow hosts, bad actors and other people who's only qualification is being good at pretending they're something their not.
Re: Say hello to COVID 2.0 (Score:2)
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I am intrigued and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
onsidering the alarmism being pushed right now is around mpox, previously "monkeypox" - rebranded because it's a relatively unconcerning and mild illness that's transmitted through anal sex amongst gay men who've been raping animals and children.
Would you like to try again [un.org]?
Human to human: Touching, sex and talking or breathing close to someone with mpox can generate infectious respiratory particles, but more research is needed on how the virus spreads during outbreaks in different settings and conditions, says WHO.
What scientists do know is that it is also possible for the virus to persist for some time on clothing, bedding, towels, objects, electronics and surfaces that have been touched by a person with mpox. Someone else who is in contact with these items may become infected without first washing their hands before touching their eyes, nose and mouth.
The virus can also spread during pregnancy to the fetus, during or after birth through skin-to-skin contact, or from a parent with mpox to an infant or child during close contact.
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Animals to humans: Someone who comes into physical contact with an animal which carries the virus, such as some species of monkey - or a terrestrial rodent like a tree squirrel - may also develop mpox. Such exposure can occur through bites or scratches, or during activities such as hunting, skinning, trapping or preparing a meal. The virus can also be caught through eating contaminated meat which is not cooked thoroughly.
Considering you are wrong about two your wildass conspiracies
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What we do know is the first people who contracted covid all came from the wet market in Wuhan [time.com] and the immediate vicinity of the market.
They are eight miles apart. So, what you're saying is you really don't know where it came from. You also quoted a bunch of shit from the UN, which is a organization that cannot be trusted or considered correct under any circumstances.
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"Under any circumstances"
Yeah, you sound like a sensible person.
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During COVID and right now you've always sounded like a conformist sheeple slave chicken shit asshole.
Oh gosh you've got a number of negative adjectives there for me. Should a longer list offend me more? Why does it just reinforce your absurdity?
Got your 12th booster? Still wearing 3 masks?
I take a booster daily and dont wear masks because I live in a giant bubble 24/7 thank you very much!
Censor anyone today?
Gotta love this. Cant disagree or question the conspiracy nut because that's censoring them. So should everyone just smile and pat you on the head while telling you "That's nice" every time you start getting crazy?
All you nuts are doing with stuff like this is trying
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I'm bringing up censorship because of how supportive of the authoritarians you were during CV1
So by authoritarians you mean the experts put in place by our democratically elected government, right? I just want to be clear we're using a personal definition of authoritarianism that you've made up and not the real one.
I'm bringing up censorship because of how supportive of the authoritarians you were during CV19
So I questioned you on your absurd comment about the UN and now I'm stuck talking to you about Covid? No thanks, it's not the early 20's anymore and I got more than enough of you then on the subject.
You've had your nose rubbed in it constantly by me and others, unless you just like being constantly made a fool of, that is.
I'm being made fun of by the site's conspiracy nuts? Somehow I think my self esteem will s
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Ha, responded to a quote by you twice. Oh well, it's just a forum post.
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I'm being made fun of by the site's conspiracy nuts?
Lol, so you lump me in with "conspiracy nuts" for criticizing government deficit spending? Wow man, standards are dropping. Just be careful. Yesterday we saw an article saying Fluoride in the water makes you dumber. So, that's Conspiracy Theory Nutjobs: 1, Lying conformist authoritarian MSM subscribers: 0
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Lol, so you lump me in with "conspiracy nuts" for criticizing government deficit spending?
"Lol". Yeah, this didnt happen. I criticized you for the phrase I quoted you as saying several posts above and it had nothing to do with government spending or the deficient. Maybe you're juggling multiple posts of people calling you a conspiracy nut and lost track of your threads?
Go ahead and quote me though if I was. Maybe I was sleep-typing last night.
So, that's Conspiracy Theory Nutjobs: 1, Lying conformist authoritarian MSM subscribers: 0
Oh, we're scoring points now? Did we start living in a video game or are you just using a childish figure of speech? I hope it's the prior and I get to try
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Yeah, this didnt happen.
*Shrug* From the thread history maybe it was something about COVID authoritarians you so gleefully joined in with?
Maybe you're juggling multiple posts
On Slashdot, yes, absolutely. There are a lot of semi-communist useful idiots who can keep me busy, that's for sure. So maybe.
Oh, we're scoring points now?
It was a weak attempt at humor, also known as a joke. At least you somewhat responded in kind.
I should have that engraved on something I own.
Glad you like it. Put it next to the Hammer and Sickle tattoo, maybe?
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*Shrug* From the thread history maybe it was something about COVID authoritarians you so gleefully joined in with?
No, UN paranoia. You gotta work on that memory there pal, it was only a few hours ago.
Glad you like it. Put it next to the Hammer and Sickle tattoo, maybe?
No, only in your head are there any real amount of American leftists that are communist. You should start a club with Luckyo though, maybe you can show your colors and try to bring back McCarthyism together. Maybe ruin some innocent Americans lives, you'll love it I'm sure.
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No, UN paranoia. You gotta work on that memory there pal, it was only a few hours ago.
Ah, yes, I do remember hating on them. Since you're kind of a clone of the typical /. Communist, it's hard to remember which generic-snake said what. I'll grant that. The UN is like a real-life Hydra or Cobra-Command. Anyone sucking up to those guys has a screw loose in my book. These are the people who should have a slogal "Go to interesting places, meet interesting people, and rape and extort them in the name of global autocracy!" Though that doesn't really capture things like their failures in places lik
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Ah, yes, I do remember hating on them. Since you're kind of a clone of the typical /. Communist, it's hard to remember which generic-snake said what. I'll grant that. The UN is like a real-life Hydra or Cobra-Command. Anyone sucking up to those guys has a screw loose in my book. These are the people who should have a slogal "Go to interesting places, meet interesting people, and rape and extort them in the name of global autocracy!" Though that doesn't really capture things like their failures in places like Rwanda and other "peace" keeping missions. I'll try to do better.
Wow, that horse that kicked you in the head as a kid really did a number on you. Not only can you not remember conversations that happened only a few hours ago but you think GI Joe is something to hold up to the real world as reality.
They are mostly saying "No, I'm not Communist, I just want a little Socialism."
You're either intentionally misunderstanding people or an idiot as the only way you're even remotely close to a point is the way a lot of people throw socialism: around in the common parlance to mean European style socialism which is hardly communism.
"Socialism is really just Communism before they take your guns."
Ha, or it's just what every
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Feel free to keep pretending leftists are evil for wanting to do away with them though. I know you will.
You are evil, but not just for wanting to disarm people. You're also evil for wanting to steal from them and/or put them in COVID camps, etc... Also give your anti-gun rhetoric to folks in Burma or under other authoritarian governments and are 3D printing guns just to survive their government's onslaught. I'm sure all the innocent people killed in those conflicts just "dont count" and tell it to your pals in Ukraine. They don't need guns either, right?
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Right, it's evil to want to prevent people from dying. Some people will make up anything to avoid having to face the reality of their political stances. The only thing mass gun ownership has ever done for America is needlessly killed millions of innocent Americans.
As for the rest of your post, we have democracy to settle our political disputes. "But, but, but what if someday our democracy...." So we're paying up front with the lives of millions of Americans just in case something bad happens with our democr
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And let’s be real—people inte
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The number of gun-related deaths in the U.S. is often blown out of proportion. About 60% of these deaths are suicides—tragic, sure, but not the same as homicides. In 2021, there were around 48,830 gun deaths, with over 24,000 being suicides and about 19,000 homicides. So, it’s misleading to lump them all together as if guns are the cause of violence or suicide. That's simian level thinking, like believing the rock that hit you wasn't thrown by someone.
Lord, this tired nonsense. We're counting our gun deaths the same way as other countries so yes our numbers are still ridiculously high. It's an apples to apples comparison.
And let’s be real—people intent on causing harm will find other ways. Just look at the U.K., where strict gun laws haven’t stopped violence. Instead, knife crimes have spiked, with over 41,000 incidents recorded in 2021. People will use whatever’s available—knives, cars, or even arson—so it’s not just about guns.
No, a lot of the time they really don't.
https://aoav.org.uk/2024/knife... [aoav.org.uk].
Data from the Office of National Statistics (ONS) reveals that in the year ending March 2023, 41% of all homicides in England and Wales were knife-related, equating to 244 stabbing deaths out of 590 total homicides."
Even accounting for the population difference it'
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Hahaha, "I know you are but what am I". Nice.
Of course I backed up all of my claims and I'm not making up absurd shit that clearly betrays a lack of knowledge in the subject we are discussing. I mean, you honestly thought knife crimes in the UK would make up the difference? You should read more books and less right wing news.
Just go be a gun-fearing pussy in a situation where someone might be more receptive. I'm not interested in listening to the same old lies.
Some one sounds saaad! Who needs a hug?
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I think we'll be fine.
You sir, are already not fine. The rest of us though may be.
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Zoonotic diseases are too slow. We need to introduce some saber-toothed megafauna into the wilderness to keep human populations in check. And more particularly, inside city limits.
Re: Say hello to COVID 2.0 (Score:2)
Yeah those predictions already happened, SARS-COV-2 was 5 years ago. Is this your Dr Evil impersonation?
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Epidemiologists have warned us for years that this crap will put humans in close proximity to animals that can breed deadly viruses without themselves getting sick.
No. People aren't moving into the jungle. They are tearing it down and building a parking lot over it - expanding their urban area - displacing the jungle and its animals. This won't increase our risk of COVID 2.0.
We need to introduce a solution. (Score:1)
FUD alarmism (Score:1)
The global population is dropping rapidly and there is almost zero incentive to build infrastructure to remote places we don't already populate.
They're not populated for good reasons: they're far from other people, far from commerce lines and infrastructure, and lack critical resources we would want to exploit.
In 50 years, the Earth's population will be a fraction of what it is today and this alarmism will seem quaint and silly, in retrospect.
Still growing, but growth is slowing (Score:3)
The global population is dropping rapidly
No, it's not.
The birth rate is dropping rapidly, but the population is currently still growing.
...In 50 years, the Earth's population will be a fraction of what it is today and this alarmism will seem quaint and silly, in retrospect.
Not in fifty years. The population is 8.2 billion today, and estimated to peak at 10.2 billion fifty years from now. https://www.un.org/en/UN-proje... [un.org]
If current trends continue for another century, yes, it will eventually drop to a fraction of what it is today, but not soon.
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You're discounting the effect of: war, famine, and disease.
Of which we're likely to have quite a bit, if things continue on the existing trajectory.
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You're discounting the effect of: war, famine, and disease.
No.
The population is currently growing. That means, total number of births minus number of deaths is a positive number. Deaths include all causes of death, including war, famine, and disease.
(and I'll note that despite everything, deaths due to war, famine, and disease have been steadily decreasing over the years. Here's a graph of life expectancy showing that effect: https://chart-studio.plotly.co... [plotly.com] )
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The only thing that is dropping, and just a little bit at that, is the rate of increase in the global population. The absolute numbers are still screaming upward.
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Public Lands (Score:1)
Reconciling the percentages (Score:2)
The World Economic Forum says that humans have "modified" 14.6% of earth's land. https://www.weforum.org/agenda... [weforum.org].
That's a far cry from 75%, which is increasing to...57%??? Something doesn't add up.
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