Canada Predicts Hacking From India as Diplomatic Feud Escalates (bloomberg.com) 54
Canada is bracing for Indian government-backed hacking as the two nations' diplomatic relationship nosedives to its lowest ebb in a generation. From a report: "We judge that official bilateral relations between Canada and India will very likely drive Indian state-sponsored cyber threat activity against Canada," the Canadian Centre for Cyber Security said in its annual threat report published Wednesday, adding that such hackers are probably already conducting cyber-espionage.
This month, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's cabinet and Canadian police have ramped up a remarkable campaign of public condemnations against India, accusing Narendra Modi's officials of backing a wave of violence and extortion against Canadians on Canadian soil -- particularly those who agitate for carving out a separate Sikh state in India called Khalistan. India has rejected the accusations and believes some Khalistan activists to be terrorists harbored by Canada.
This month, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's cabinet and Canadian police have ramped up a remarkable campaign of public condemnations against India, accusing Narendra Modi's officials of backing a wave of violence and extortion against Canadians on Canadian soil -- particularly those who agitate for carving out a separate Sikh state in India called Khalistan. India has rejected the accusations and believes some Khalistan activists to be terrorists harbored by Canada.
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Meanwhile outside of the conservative distortion field... https://www.thehindu.com/news/... [thehindu.com]
Waaaaathist!!! (Score:2, Insightful)
The last resort wail of the idiot with no counter argument.
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>why is he so racist
If only he was; he wouldn't have invited in hundreds of thousands of them in over the last few years, and the "separatist" problem would remain in India.
Re:trudeau and his cronies (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't think it's racist to think that the BJP is a undemocratic, nationalist, authoritarian party, with its leader Modi being only marginally better than the average member.
Their preferred technique is to rig the media via regulations, threats and disinformation rather than to rig the actual polling stations, and their information operations do not stop at the Indian border. And not just disinformation. Are they above plotting to kill Sikh separatists in North America? [youtube.com] Well, the evidence there looks solid, e.g. Canadian and American intelligence services knew about multiple assassination schemes in detail and in advance before one of them succeeded.
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You think the Democrats are undemocratic, nationalist, and authoritarian?
You think the Democrats' "preferred technique" is to "rig the media via regulations, threats and disinformation?"
You think the Democrats are plotting to kill American citizens in the USA or abroad, because they are "separatists?"
I just want to be sure about what you think here. Because I'm not sure what group you're talking about, but I know it's not the Democrats.
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Vivek Ramaswamy, he is the worst democrat
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Vivek Ramaswamy, he is the worst democrat
He's a Republican, dumbass. [wikipedia.org]
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When two countries' intelligence agencies know about a plot in advance and do nothing to stop it, are they complicit? Or just standing back with arms folded nodding approvingly?
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Likewise, China has been digging their fingers deep in our elections for years, with no action from Trudeau until whistleblowers come forward.
Modi cosying up to Putin recently (Score:4, Insightful)
Shows his true nature and whats in store for india if he's not voted out at the next election. If he allows it.
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India's already playing both sides. Personally, I think any nation that isn't willing to stand against Russia's invasion of Ukraine has announced they don't care about national borders and sovereignty. That they're OK with "might makes right".
As such, I don't think anybody should feel bound to offer any kind of support when they have territorial disputes.
Of course, the biggest threat to India there is probably China, and they're also supporting Putin.
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Where was your respect of borders and sovereignity in Iraq?
this is how I read this..... (Score:1)
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And Steve Bannon
The massive fraudster? https://www.nbcnews.com/politi... [nbcnews.com] He sure sounds like a trustworthy individual.
Re: this is how I read this..... (Score:1)
And Canada in the past has on multiple occasions accuse the US of hacking during elections. Even threatened to take the issue to the ICC?
Re: this is how I read this..... (Score:2)
Surely you mean the opposite, no?
You say âoeCanada told the USâ, but it will be the US that told Canada (since, unlike CSIS, the NSA actually has some teeth).
I expect this is why Trudeau canâ(TM)t reveal any hard evidence for any of it â" heâ(TM)s been given it by the US on the strict proviso that he doesnâ(TM)t publicly reveal details or the source (which might reveal their sources/spies).
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they outsource hacking to themselves, who are cheap, but ya git what you pay for.
Anyone in a spat with (Score:5, Insightful)
...Canada has a problem. Canada is arguable the most peaceful nation on this planet. They wouldn't pick a fight with a flea.
Modi is an asshole and dictator-wannabe, jailing and threatening opposition and the press on trumped-up charges, and treating Muslims like shit to kiss up to majority religion. I'm hesitant to classify India as a "democracy" because Modi controls so much.
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The Coward of the Cottage loves attention and will do anything to stay in the limelight.
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Sounds terrible. Why hasn’t an election ever been voted for yet?
Pocket over sockit (Score:2)
In Canada or India? East Indians tend to vote their pocket-book, like Americans. India's economy has been growing under Modi, so most voters mentally downplay his authoritarian mayhem. (Gee, where have we seen that before?) Plus, Modi's control of the press limits voters' perspective on his slimy deeds.
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Canada.
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You really do fall for fake news. https://theconversation.com/we... [theconversation.com]
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Agreed 100%.
When Kennedy accused Russia and Cuba of staging nuclear missiles in Cuba and they denied that, then Adlai Stevenson II (US ambassador to the UN at the time) provided LOTS of photographs PROVING that the communists were lying. Because the proof was provided, the UN took it seriously.
However, Trudeau and his minions simply trot out their accusations whenever it's politically expedient, instead of when they are actually ready to back up their accusations with facts. While this helps them deflect re
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Please don't think about any Green Slush Funds, or stuff like how I've overstayed my welcome.
Standard distraction tactic.
*likely true, but still doesn't negate it's distractive effect.
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It's nothing to do with Canada. Trudeau is shit-disturbing to ...
For those readers not of the Canadian persuasion, the above sentiments are verbatim talking points taken directly from the Trudeau's opposition - Canada's kinder gentler version of MAGA - the Conservative Party of Canada.
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But it is funny how the government will willingly admit to Indian interference, but also be teeth-pulling intransigent against admitting that China interference was/is a thing.
Distraction tactic or not, they're hardly credible and instead on par with most political bullshit.
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It is usually a bad sign if Canada gets angry with your country. Which is a pretty nice reputation to have, honestly.
We're far from perfect, but starting shit with other nations isn't one of our big faults.
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You don't want to wake "The Geese" in Canada. No, you really don't...
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They wouldn't pick a fight with a flea.
As a Canadian I resent that and would like to challenge you to a duel.
Wait, the hockey game is on ... will get back to you.
Canada is backed into a corner (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's how it started, as far as I know. Over the past few decades, people from a state in India called Punjab who are of Sikh religion, have been fleeing to Canada. This is because they accuse India of oppressing them in their state (some Indians will say that the claims of sustained widespread oppression while having some truth was exaggerated to get refugee visa approval, and now they started believing their own claims -- who knows, it might be true it might be a blend). Anyway, the bottom line is those people want the Punjab state to break away from India and form a new country called Khalistan. So many hundreds of thousands of Punjabians have fled to Canada that they now comprise a pander-worthy population there. Therefore they've been pressuring Trudeau to press India's president Narendra Modi to quit oppressing the Khalistani people and give them more autonomy. Nevermind that it's likely (as I understand it) that most of the people who care about Khalistan are the people in Canada. As I understand it, most Sikhs or Punjabians currently living in India don't really give a shit about it. Anyway, it started with Trudeau inviting a person who had attempted to killed an Indian cabinet member to a dinner and now it's escalated to Canada placing trade restrictions, withdrawing diplomats, and accusing India of spying on Canadian Punjabis and being complicit in the murder of a prominent Khalistan movement activist on Canadian soil last year.
Re: Canada is backed into a corner (Score:2)
To put this in perspective, this would be like Cuba sending hit squads to the U.S. to take out American citizens who speak out against the authoritarian Cuban regime. You can imagine what the American response might be; likely more than cutting diplomatic relations.
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The Sikhs and Punjabis in Canada, from what I've seen, skew wealthy. North of Toronto proper, Brampton, you look poor driving a Mercedes. In Ontario, last time I checked, there were several Sikhs in Doug Ford's cabinet, including the Treasurer. They wield a lot of power in Canada. Which explains why there's some clear vote pandering.
The issue (Score:5, Interesting)
India is commiting acts of terrorism against Canadian immigrants because it wants them to shut up about Sikh separatism. We're happy to jail people who commit acts of terrorism. If India had a case against the people they targeted for committing actual crimes, Canada's pretty happy to cooperate in line with any treaties or domestic laws on our books.
India chose murder, abusing their diplomatic presence to arrange it, then decided to get pissy when we dared to object.
Fuck India. It was looking better for a while, but it's going downhill fast what with sucking Putin's dick and all.
Not Surprising (Score:4, Funny)
India kinda sucks at everything other than making more people.
Raising dissidents? snakes? (Score:1)
If country A imports what country B calls "terrorists" (or dissidents) and worships free speech about all else, and does nothing when many official requests are received to "do something" about acts against the sovereignty of country B, then country B takes action to do something about it (because country A won't), then country A can "predict" country B of spying/hacking all it wants.
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~ "above all else" [correction of typo.]
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We do not worship free speech above all else. Ask any American what they think of Canadian speech laws.
We are strict on rule of law. Any Canadian, immigrant or otherwise, who actually committed an act of terrorism would find our legal system unsympathetic.
Killing a guy for advocating for a free Khalistan does not sit well with us when both the advocating and killing happen on our soil. India can eat a bowl of rancid dicks.
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You obviously have a vested interest in country B, that's why you wrote that. Correct? If country B has evidence that one of country A's citizens is harming them .. then they should present such evidence. If the evidence is ignored, then a case can be made for going into country A and doing an "extraordinary rendition". In this case, did India try to present evidence that a Canadian citizen was coordinating crimes in India? No? So then how would you expect Canada to react when India goes there and kills som
Superficial disputes come and go. (Score:2)