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Earth Began Absorbing More Sunlight in 2023, Climate Researchers Find (arstechnica.com) 56

Today a group of German scientists presented data suggesting Earth is absorbing more sunlight than in the past, reports Ars Technica, "largely due to reduced cloud cover." We can measure both the amount of energy the Earth receives from the Sun and how much energy it radiates back into space.... The new paper finds that the energy imbalance set a new high in 2023, with a record amount of energy being absorbed by the ocean/atmosphere system. This wasn't accompanied by a drop in infrared emissions from the Earth, suggesting it wasn't due to greenhouse gases, which trap heat by absorbing this radiation. Instead, it seems to be due to decreased reflection of incoming sunlight by the Earth....

Using two different data sets, the teams identify the areas most effected by this, and they're not at the poles, indicating loss of snow and ice are unlikely to be the cause. Instead, the key contributor appears to be the loss of low-level clouds [particularly over the Atlantic ocean]... The drop in low-level clouds had been averaging about 1.3 percent per decade. 2023 saw a slightly larger drop occur in just one year....

So, what could be causing the clouds to go away? The researchers list three potential factors. One is simply the variability of the climate system, meaning 2023 might have just been an extremely unusual year, and things will revert to trends in the ensuing years. The second is the impact of aerosols, which both we and natural processes emit in copious quantities. These can help seed clouds, so a reduction of aerosols (driven by things like pollution control measures) could potentially account for this effect. The most concerning potential explanation, however, is that there may be a feedback relationship between rising temperatures and low-level clouds. Meaning that, as the Earth warms, the clouds become sparse, enhancing the warming further. That would be bad news for our future climate, because it suggests that the lower range of warming estimates would have to be adjusted upward to account for it.

If the decline in reflectivity wasn't just caused by normal variability, the researchers warn, "the 2023 extra heat may be here to stay..."

Earth Began Absorbing More Sunlight in 2023, Climate Researchers Find

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  • by rmdingler ( 1955220 ) on Thursday December 05, 2024 @07:40PM (#64994557) Journal

    It's probably likely on the order of tomorrow's sunrise that the higher temperatures are not a fad, but here to stay.

    The $64,000.00 question is whether nature's demon spawn or greatest achievement is to blame. I struggle to delineate the problem as either natural or anthropogenic, since I lack the hubris to believe mankind is separate from nature instead of part of it.

    Maybe the Earth thinks it has the flu, and is defending itself from a virus by inducing a fever.

    • by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Thursday December 05, 2024 @08:38PM (#64994639) Journal

      It's probably likely on the order of tomorrow's sunrise that the higher temperatures are not a fad, but here to stay.

      You should improve your statistics skill.

      The amount of anthropomorphizing in the your post is ridiculous. Nature doesn't want anything. It's a bunch of natural processes that can be predicted using math. The Earth doesn't "think" it has a flu.

      Ghosts want things. Kids want things. Deer want things. Natural processes follow natural laws.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        Nature doesn't want anything. It's a bunch of natural processes that can be predicted using math.

        That is your religious belief. Others may not be so sure. And still others know conclusively that you are wrong.

        • That is your religious belief.

          Wrong.

          As discussed by many, we can utterly destroy this delusional species of ape and whatever religious idiocy arises thereafter will be fundamentally different from what exists today.

          The scientific method, however, will re-codify everything we know at present with the exact same precision, using the exact same evidence.

          Be a better human.

        • That is your religious belief. Others may not be so sure. And still others know conclusively that you are wrong.

          You believe inanate things like the Sun "wants" to keep the planets in orbit? That is just plain wrong.

          The Sun keeps the planets in orbit because of its mass. That's how gravity works.

          The Sun is unable to "choose" anything else. With such choice would come options, like tomorrow the Sun would decide not to want the planets in order and let them fly off in a straight line or even pull them in.

          Stuff doesn't work like that. At all. Regardless of your belief

    • by dbialac ( 320955 ) on Thursday December 05, 2024 @08:57PM (#64994655)
      Just over a year ago (June if I recall), science.org published an article about how reducing sulfer in ship fuel was decreasing cloud cover. Seems we didn't bother rolling back the change until the substitute was production ready (salt). Our chickens are coming home to roost. Yet another completely avoidable catastrophe where we knew it was going to happen beforehand and yet did nothing to stop it.
    • by tragedy ( 27079 )

      I would hardly call the side effects unintentional. I always get annoyed when results that were obvious would happen and that many, many people warned would happen, and then people just call it "unintended consequences". If it's an obvious and predictable consequence that has been warned about, then how can it be unintended? If the people behind it wished really hard, or just hoped no-one would notice?
      The simple and obvious fact is that we need sunlight. Unless you count life in hydrothermal vents or the mi

      • by tragedy ( 27079 )

        Arrrgh. Sorry. That reply was not meant for you. I'm using a laptop I'm not used to and the touchpad keeps getting brushed by my palm as I try to type and it does crazy things. I actually opened this post on another comment. Please ignore it here. I think my palm actually managed to select all and drag?

    • I struggle to delineate the problem as either natural or anthropogenic, since I lack the hubris to believe mankind is separate from nature instead of part of it.

      To me they are one and the same. All our technology isn't unnatural or artificial. It is the natural process of a species who had previously evolved highly complex means of vocalization and communication. This changed our brains to be able to think abstractly. The ability led to things like writing, humor, math, science and art. Even our feats like the Moon landing are natural in my book. Those are natural artifacts of the Maximum Power Principle in our search for more energy and resources. We are bo

      • I assume that you meant "you hope that an intelligent species someday will exist that can consume less power, transform less energy and still prevail against species that can do more".

        A species, system, culture cannot "violate" the maximum power principle in that way. When it would face with a species or culture or system that takes in MORE power, transform MORE energy, produce MORE or MORE efficiently to sustain and procreate itself. And that species, culture or system will prevail over them.

        Reproduction i

        • No I did not mean that. We lived for 300,000+ years as hunter gathers in often lush ecosystems better than anything left today. I have no desire to maintain our current level of technology. I'd rather be in nature than in front of a screen.
  • by SlashTex ( 10502574 ) on Thursday December 05, 2024 @08:03PM (#64994597)
    ...

    "So, what could be causing the clouds to go away? ... The second is the impact of aerosols, which both we and natural processes emit in copious quantities. "

    This is always well established. Unintended consequences. Cleaning up diesel engines in ships has decreased SO2 emissions, in turn reducing low lying clouds in maritime shipping lanes.

    https://news.mongabay.com/2024... [mongabay.com].

    I think I also read this in a Tier 1 journal, don't remember which.
    • Well yeah, that's been one of the ideas proposed as a form of geoengineering. Intentionally spew a bunch of aerosols into the atmosphere, clouds form, and the clouds reflect some of the sunshine back into space.

      Of course, there's also the potential for some unintentional side effects, since the heat-blocking effect of clouds works both ways. At night, clouds reflect radiated heat back towards the Earth, so making more clouds isn't necessarily a planet-cooling win.

      • I think it's definitely unclear. For example, Florida gets intense thunderstorms in the afternoon, but everything is gone by morning. Nothing went anywhere, the clouds just dissipated.
    • I think I also read this in a Tier 1 journal, don't remember which.

      Probably Soylent News.

    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      I don't think they're claiming that they discovered the reduced aerosol effect; they're referring that to as a known factor in decreasing Earth's albedo which no doubt contributed to an outlier year.

    • by tragedy ( 27079 )

      Note: I accidentally managed to post this reply to the wrong comment first. So now I am reposting it.
      I would hardly call the side effects unintentional. I always get annoyed when results that were obvious would happen and that many, many people warned would happen, and then people just call it "unintended consequences". If it's an obvious and predictable consequence that has been warned about, then how can it be unintended? If the people behind it wished really hard, or just hoped no-one would notice?
      The si

      • by tragedy ( 27079 )

        Oh sweet zombie baby Jesus!. It happened again. The above reply was supposed to be to Powercntrl below. I'm not going to post it again. Just ignore it. Sorry. I am trying to figure out how this happens. I am 90% sure it is from my unfamiliarity with this laptop with my palm constantly brushing the keypad. I keep having problems typing where the mouse cursor jumps wildly, the touchpad registers clicks, and suddenly a section of text has been highlighted and overwritten by what I'm typing. It has happened alr

  • The headline says "Began absorbing" implying an ongoing process, but the actual claim is that it absorbed more in 2023 and the researchers themselves say its not clear if that is just a one-off variation or part of some kind of trend.
    • by rossdee ( 243626 )

      I'd guess that the earth will absorb more sunshine in 2024 than it did in 2023.

      By about .27 of a percent.

      • I'd guess that the earth will absorb more sunshine in 2024 than it did in 2023.

        By about .27 of a percent.

        not to worry it will be back to standard in 2025, for a few years anyway...

  • add up to, at most, 0.1 Kelvin of warming

    Kelvin, really ? What is the author trying to point out ? 0.1 Kelvin is the same as 0.1 C. Maybe I will start using Rankine so people can think I know things :)

    • There is a time and place for everything, sure a rise in Kelvin is equal to the same rise in C, but just saying they are the same is wrong, one is literally 273 base units different than the other. Kelvin is also more apropos when dealing with thermal dynamics.

      Might as well complain they didn't use Fahrenheit...

      -We are all pedantic here.
    • by XXongo ( 3986865 )

      Kelvin, really ? What is the author trying to point out ?

      In calculations involving radiative heat transfer (like, say, the greenhouse effect), all the temperatures have to be absolute because that's what the Stefan-Boltzmann law requires.

      Basically, you're complaining that the popular articles didn't bother to relabel the units back to Celsius to make it simpler to understand for non-scientists.

  • by Arzaboa ( 2804779 ) on Friday December 06, 2024 @12:22AM (#64994831)

    Ironically, as the human race turns into mole people over time due to the scorching atmosphere, the deeper they dig, the more free energy there is.

    --
    I have a mole in my eye, which is a very specific thing. - Susan Kelechi Watson

  • Climate "sceptics" always assures us that the nonlinear response of the planet to heat changes is so badly understood that we should not neglect the chance that the pendulum swings in the right direction.

    Now ... uuups.

  • ... is due to greenhouses?

    I remember flying over Spain once and thinking "that's a strange looking lake", before realizing I was looking at a field of polytunnel greenhouses stretching as far as I could see (from a jet plane).

    Greenhouses are, duh, designed to retain heat. It doesn't turn into food or compost, so how many Calories or KWh does an acre of greenhouse capture?

  • Climate change - and, yes, it's man-made - has the planets albedo sinking for quite some time now. Obviously. Ice-caps melt, less reflection, more heat absorption, yet another cascading effect of quite a few we have already. I thought this already has been well established, no? What's the big deal here? We have this confirmed for recent years? ... Well, no shit, Sherlock, I'd say. ... Or am I missing some detail here? What _is_ the news then?

  • According to about a week ago on Slashdot, cloud-seeding from airplane contrails is causing the clouds to lock in more heat radiated from Earth and we need to stop flying immediately, as it's causing global warming.
  • For most of the year we also had atypical wind patterns at mid-latitudes. Probably not a coincidence. This shift in wind patterns is being driven by global warming. Larger high and low systems simply do not leave room for the 8 layers of wind patterns we consider typical and we are seeing 6 layers of winds instead with stronger equatorial East to West winds. So if the reduced clouds are caused by the shift in wind patterns (rather than simply correlating) then this is another (and apparently unanticipat
  • No one knows. Warming of the oceans should put more water into the air, which should result in more cloud cover. It'll be quite an irony if reducing air pollution leads to increased global warming.

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