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Everybody Loves FRED (nytimes.com) 56

An anonymous reader shares a report: Fans post about him on social media. Swag bearing his name sells out on the regular. College professors dedicate class sessions and textbook sections to him. Foreign government officials have been known to express jealousy over his skills, and one prominent economist refers to him as a "national treasure." Meet FRED, a 33-year-old data tool from St. Louis, Mo., and the economics world's most unlikely celebrity.

Even if you have not interacted with FRED yourself, there is a good chance you've encountered him without knowing it. The tool's signature baby blue graphs dot social media and crop up on many of the world's most popular news websites. Many people feel that way about FRED. The website had nearly 15 million users last year, and it is on track for even more in 2024, up from fewer than 400,000 as recently as 2009. Their reasons for clicking are diverse: FRED users are coming for freshly released unemployment data, to check in on egg inflation or to find out whether business is booming in Memphis.

That appeal crosses political lines. Larry Kudlow, who directed the National Economic Council during the first Trump administration, has tweeted and retweeted FRED charts. Groups as disparate as the spending-focused Alaskans for a Sustainable Budget and the pro-worker advocacy organization Employ America have used its charts to back up their arguments. It is even occasionally used by professional and White House economists, who tend to have access to sophisticated data tools, for quick charts. "It is unfathomable for me now, to think of the days before FRED," said Ernie Tedeschi, the director of economics at the Budget Lab at Yale and a former chief economist at the White House Council of Economic Advisers.

When he speaks to foreign government economists, he noted, they are often "jealous" of the data tool, which is more comprehensive and easier to use than what other countries offer. "It's a compliment to FRED," he said. FRED -- whose name stands for Federal Reserve Economic Data -- was born in 1991. But he was a sparkle in the eye of the St. Louis Fed long before that. The story started in the 1960s, with an economist named Homer Jones (now sometimes referred to as the "grandfather of FRED"). Mr. Jones was the director of research at the Fed's branch in St. Louis, and he wanted to make central bank decisions more data-based, so he started to mail typed data reports to Fed officials around the country.

Everybody Loves FRED

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  • by Anonymous Coward
    What a crap article.
    • by XXongo ( 3986865 )
      Reads like an ad.

      I might be interested in an article about what FRED is and how it works.Maybe it's in the actual NYT article, but that's paywalled. The summary merely tells us how wonderful it is.

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by mspohr ( 589790 )

        ... or you could just go to the FRED website and read through their tutorials... if that's not too much work.
        Lazy to expect the NYT to give you a tutorial.

      • I might be interested in an article about what FRED is and how it works.

        Near the end of TFS it says, " FRED -- whose name stands for Federal Reserve Economic Data" so one might guess it's about economic data at the Federal Reserve ... the rest of TFS mentions charts, graphs and data, so one might guess the site has a bunch of those. ;-)

      • by shanen ( 462549 )

        Why did you propagate the vacuous Subject and why was the vacuous FP modded Funny?

        And why do I care? This is Slashdot.

  • You will have a different discussion :D

  • by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Monday December 09, 2024 @09:09AM (#65000819)

    Because a) I did not know about this thing b) I tend not to "love" things and c) now that I know, I find I do not care.

    Bullshit headline is bullshit.

  • by Valgrus Thunderaxe ( 8769977 ) on Monday December 09, 2024 @09:10AM (#65000829)
    I don't like FRED, and even if I knew what the FUCK it was (and I still don't after reading that bloated summary), I'm sure I still wouldn't like it.
  • I don't know what Fred is or care by the third sentence.
  • "Everybody loves" (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I'm glad we have this editor to speak for EVERYONE. And people are *utterly* confused why the media is considered "elitist".
  • by Tokolosh ( 1256448 ) on Monday December 09, 2024 @09:53AM (#65000921)

    In a chaotic, non-linear, non-deterministic system, more data does not lead to better outcomes. Friedrich Hayek is our prophet.

    • by Cyberax ( 705495 )
      Ah, yea. A Hayek, a hack who basically says: "I'll explain whatever happens as a result of not enough free markets". Literally. His so-called "school of economics" prides itself on _not_ making predictions.
      • So how is your preferred system working for you and others?

        • by Cyberax ( 705495 )
          Actually, the good old Keynesian economy is working pretty well. The US is growing robustly and the inflation is down.
          • Happy for you. Especially since the incoming President is the opposite of a free-market Hayek.

            "Once you've built the big machinery of political power, remember you won't always be the one to run it." -- P. J. O'Rourke

          • Actually, the good old Keynesian economy is working pretty well. The US is growing robustly and the inflation is down.

            The problem is, only half of Keynesian economics is being done. The spending part, when needed, is the easy part. It's the paying down the debt once times are better which is the hard part. If that part would be done, things would even be better.

            However, so long as the Fed and Treasury keep propping up private industry rather than letting the markets work as they should, we'll ne
            • Keynesian economics has the same problem that communism has... it works great in theory... but in practice - not so much.

              • Central planning and govt intervention work great for some. Politicians take your money then give it to someone else for votes. This free money giveaway has amounted to $35t in debt. Because it'll never be paid off, it is the primary and only long term driver of inflation. Loans get paid back and don't add money to the system. More money chasing the same amount of goods raises prices. Many people have monetary incentive for this system to continue, so it does.
                • by Cyberax ( 705495 )
                  And? What's the problem with the all of the above?

                  The economy is growing, the overall debt-to-GDP ratio is not rising.
  • Nope never heard of it. But I'm not a journalist/blogger/youtuber/influencer. Perhaps I have seen it in action, but it's just a government data tool that can 'doo graphs' from the sounds of it.

    Yippeee? News for um..
  • by douglasfir77 ( 6439950 ) on Monday December 09, 2024 @09:59AM (#65000945)

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/se... [stlouisfed.org]

    For those who did not read till the end.

  • by DarkOx ( 621550 ) on Monday December 09, 2024 @10:42AM (#65001045) Journal

    I am really shocked at all the negative comments, and lack of familiarity with the tool. Its been an internet fixture for data geeks for as long as it has existed.

    As much time as economics jawboning that goes on around here, you'd think people posting would have interested in actual data and would be happy that they have access to a non-bullshit platform to look at federal reserve data directly.

    I guess everyone prefers to wait for their favorite bias media sources to cherry pick the statistics for them and tell them what to think...

    • At least you're consistent in your position - trusting data from the un-elected Federal Reserve while having a tag line promoting the repeal of the 17th Amendment.
      • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

        I am actually not a fan of the FED, in general but I am glad I can at least see the data they are using to make decisions.

        I think if you took the time to think about how the framers intended checks and balances to work and the consequences direct election of senators has had instead of you 'derp democracy good derp derp' reaction you'd see a lot of the dysfunction and frankly anti-democratic behavior that goes on today has a lot to do with our 'administrative districts' not having any voice of their own in

        • by thomst ( 1640045 )

          DarkOx lied:

          I think if you took the time to think about how the framers intended checks and balances to work and the consequences direct election of senators has had instead of you 'derp democracy good derp derp' reaction you'd see a lot of the dysfunction and frankly anti-democratic behavior that goes on today has a lot to do with our 'administrative districts' not having any voice of their own in the federal government.

          Except that, due to generations of gerrymandering at the state level, very close to 2/3 of state legislatures are firmly in the claws of the Republican party, which would guarantee permanent GOP control of the Senate, with a large enough majority to allow the them to amend the Constitution at whim.

          What was that about "frankly anti-democratic behavior" again ... ?

        • Framers didn't think it was govt's purpose to manage people's lives. No where in the Constitution does it say the federal govt can central plan aspects of the economy. If you take the time to read founders writings, you'd see you have a warped idea of what the federal govt should do https://millercenter.org/the-p... [millercenter.org]
    • by dargaud ( 518470 )
      Well you can certainly introduce bias into a common tool. For that it would be nice if any published plot had an associated hash or QR code in a corner that gives you the command line used to generate it. This way you can check for basic errors or manipulations...
      • Here ya go [stlouisfed.org]:

        How Can I Navigate to the Originating Source of the Data? [stlouisfed.org]: "Below a graph, go to the “NOTES” section. Next to “Source” (on the first line), click the source name (see the red box below) to go to the source’s homepage." (Not really very useful.)

        How to Find More Information About the Data [stlouisfed.org]: "Below a graph, go to the “NOTES” section. Next to “Release” (on the right-hand side of the first line), click the name of the release (see the red box bel

      • Bias can easily be injected in picking the basket of goods and their weighting. FRED says on its website that the weightings are adjusted. For it to be untainted, the same goods should be chosen with the same weighting. If something goes up a lot in price, to manipulate it all one has to do is reduce the weightings. FRED doesn't agree with alternative statistics like Shadowstats. Those stats paint a picture that resembles reality more than FRED. https://www.shadowstats.com/al... [shadowstats.com]

        There's incentive to do

    • I am really shocked at all the negative comments, and lack of familiarity with the tool.

      I'm not. Slashdot is a place where everyone has a 2 second attention span and virtually all negative comments are by people who didn't even read far enough into the summary to know what FRED is.

      And no I didn't read beyond that first sentence in your post because...
      THIS...
      IS...
      SLAS*spittle*HDOOOOT!!!!
      *kicks you down a well in slow motion*

  • by Travco ( 1872216 ) on Monday December 09, 2024 @12:08PM (#65001275)
    It was intended to automate radio programming before we had computers capable of doing it. It was supposed to control multiple tape players and cart machines if you know what those were. By the time we gave the project up it was up to FRED IV And of course the name stood for EFfing Ridiculous Electronic Device
    • you didnt just do this with 2 reels, copies of each other, one playing, the other seeking to the next thing to play?
  • Economists have been using FRED since before the author was born.

    Jeezeum crow.

  • Never seen it, never heard of it. A bit of Googling revealed it is some US government thing.

    Not all the world is America or cares. Not all the English-speaking world is America.

    The other 95% of the world neither knows nor cares.

  • I'd guess less than 1% of the general public have the slightest interest in any economic database. I count myself in the 99%.

Whenever people agree with me, I always think I must be wrong. - Oscar Wilde

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