FAA Bans Drone Flights Near 'Critical Infrastructure' in New Jersey 64
The Federal Aviation Administration has issued a monthlong ban on drone flights over a large swath of New Jersey, the first broad prohibition of its kind since the authorities began investigating a spate of sightings last month that set off fear and speculation. From a report:
The ban began late on Wednesday and will continue through Jan. 17, according to an F.A.A. alert. The notification cited "special security reasons" for prohibiting flights in airspace near 22 New Jersey communities, including three of the state's largest cities, Camden, Elizabeth and Jersey City. The F.A.A. said it had temporarily restricted drone flights over "critical New Jersey infrastructure" at the request of what it described as federal security partners.
uh oh (Score:5, Funny)
The Orion constellation is gonna be pissed
Re: uh oh (Score:4, Funny)
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You're responding to a Chinese propagandist.
Re:biden administration is botching this (Score:4, Insightful)
It's almost certainly a complete nothingburger, a case of mass hysteria that even the media have bought into.
Here's just one article about it demonstrating how crazy even the media are on this: https://www.theverge.com/2024/... [theverge.com]
This illustrates everything perfectly. The Verge is so desperate to believe in UFOs that it goes out of its way to NOT mention the main reason why there are no non-blurry pictures of these "UFOs". It instead goes into detail about the limitations of digital cameras and iPhones and whatnot.
The actual reason, of course, is that any pictures that have been taken that weren't vague and blurry were good enough that you could see what was being photographed, and they were all things that were perfectly normal for a New Jersey sky. Nobody is sharing the good photographs because... they aren't showing anything weird.
Remember, these are flying objects at night, but clearly visible because they have FAA standard blinking and solid lights. There are more of them near airports (you know, where planes circle waiting for permission to land.) People claim they're close, but all they can see are literally the lights, and have you ever judged the distances of, say, cars at night by their headlights? It's not a form of depth vision human eyes are particularly good at.
The entire thing is just silly.
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It's almost certainly military testing
Then there would be a NOTAM submitted. Or a piece of airspace restricted (which is done with a NOTAM). The military isn't shy about telling the public to beware or stay away without telling us why. What they really need to avoid is someone flying through the middle of these things with a Cessna and getting killed.
The military's inability to even formulate a bullshit explanation means they are as flummoxed as everyone else. Not good for the organization we expect to protect us. It's time some Air Force gene
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Never fear, these drone sighting were reported in the mainstream media. Permission granted to disbelieve. There are no drones.
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80% of Nevada is federal land. https://www.fox5vegas.com/2022... [fox5vegas.com]
Why interfere with civilian air traffic in Camden NJ?
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Why? (Score:4, Informative)
Why would they ban behavior for something that's not happening? I was told in very strong terms from my trustworthy federal government that they have no reports of unauthorized drones, there are no drones, drones aren't from foreign entities, and they don't know what the drones that don't exist are.
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Clarification for the leaded gasoline era folks. The drones flying are not secret government drones. They're amateurs and other morons who think flying them near an airport to spot the so called secret drones looking for the lost nuke. You know the secret drones that mimic aircraft wing lights and suspiciously only fly at night because of the equipment that they carry can't operate with sunlight. That and the even less intelligent people shining laser pointers at airplanes they think are drones. I'll buy th
Re:Why? (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm not from the leaded gasoline era, there is no lost nuke, and the lost radiological material is the size of a pin and used for sensor calibration. The drones in question are a mix, but the ones showing anomalous behavior are not hobbyist drones. The government's responses indicate they're lying in one way or another.
Also if there was a radiological or WMD threat there are numerous organizations that have conventional ground-based teams that would've been activated a month ago, such as CBRNE, HMRTs, DHS VIPR teams, etc. And I may not be old enough to huff leaded gasoline, but I am old enoug to remember how they shut down all highways in Boston over a fucking neon sign.
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If you cannot do ANY of the above, then you are simply fearmongering by spreading rumors.
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The drones are reporetedly hovering for 6-8 hours at a time, and are coming in from over the ocean. At one point the government said it was coming from an Iranian mothership, but then said it wasn't. Shitheads with nothing better to do wouldn't be capable of doing any of that.
Again, the government's communication on this makes no sense. And your conjecture can be dismissed with even a most basic understanding of the situation. Therefore you don't have even a basic understanding of the sitaution, yet are att
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You sound like a conspriacy theorist, claiming, without evidence, that the words of Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas and other government officials are lies or didn't happen. New Jersey assemblywoman Dawn Fantasia said the drones exist and are up to 6' in diameter.
So what gives you the confidence to engage in a conspiracy theory and say the drones don't exist, contrary to all evidence?
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Post the link where the government claimed the drones were coming from an Iranian mothership.
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Post the link where the government claimed the drones were coming from an Iranian mothership.
The government never said this; it was some dipshit congress critter: Mystery NJ drones are coming from Iranian mothership offshore, congressman suggests [nypost.com]
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"The government didn't say this, a representative of the government said it."
Congratulations. In other news, I'm not talking to you right now, you're reading pixels on a screen and imagining it in my voice, therefore I never actually said congratulations.
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The drones are reporetedly hovering for 6-8 hours at a time
Hovering for an entire workday and no one can use a spotting scope and a camera to get a clear picture?
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Clear pictures are readily available. They mostly look like military drones, and the lighting patterns match some known models. Those drones can also fly for many hours, perhaps up to 6-8.
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The kind of drone some government agency might fly to check on reports of suspicious drones. Too funny.
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Which would still disprove the parent poster's claim (mixed in between his insults about leaded gasoline or whatever the fuck) that the observed drones are "hobbyist shitheads."
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Link one.
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The lost nuke theory is stupid. countries have planes and satellites that would be able to cover much larger areas with better equipment.
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Most of these so called drones are commercial and private aircraft. As for toy drones the faa already regulates them and requires them to broadcast an id which you can check on an app. If that's not working then I don't see how this ban will have any affect. It's really bizarre to watch them all fall all over this apparent mass hysteria. I guess it's an admission all these drone regulations are nothing but theatre.
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Worse than tyranny of the minority, we are faced with tyranny of stupidity thanks t
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That's a retarded theory, when the government is holding classified briefings over the drone activity.
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https://www.perplexity.ai/sear... [perplexity.ai]
Did you know that if a boomer learns something without the TV telling him it, it's considered a bug, not a feature?
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You don't know what perplexity.ai is? You don't know that the little numbers are called citations, and you can click them to get information from the source?
Think of those little numbers like the numbers on your television remote control. If you hit "1" you get CNN, "2" Fox news, "3" MSNBC, etc. And then instead of waiting 50 minutes to hear a factoid, the words show up on the screen and you can read and think about them for yourself.
>And to refute this link as proof: in one area the summary calls it clo
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I know it may be hard for you to remember, but I said:
>>the government is holding classified briefings over the drone activity.
And you said
>Prove it.
So I proved it. You bitched and moaned about AI and were probably upset the information wasn't being delivered to you through a television, but in your thrashing you made the mistake of acknowledging that yes, in fact, there were classified briefings over the drone activity.
Now, embarrassed at your mistake and probably wet with your own drool, you chal
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You're the one who asked me to prove it. I did, and you ignored that.
I'll discuss the conclusion of the panel and what I think about it--if you really care--once you actually address your *OWN* argument, which you wanted me to prove, and I did.
>You're such an asshole.
Cry more
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From one of your links. https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/17... [cnn.com]
“We assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircrafts, helicopters, and even stars that were mistakenly reported as drones,” White House national security communications adviser John Kirby told reporters Monday.
“We have not identified anything anomalous or any national security or public safety risks over the civilian
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Why would they ban behavior for something that's not happening?
This is a good meme with an audience and not surprisingly a bunch of people are hooking onto it to get attention. Some of those are politicians demanding "do something". The least damaging something to do is to hook on to the meme by banning behavior that isn't happening anyway. "There we didn't something. Satisfied?" The answer of course is no, not until the meme has run out of steam.
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Well there clearly ARE drones. Also planes, stars, lens flares, etc. Since there's question for the public of who's flying them, it's causing people to create lots of weird theories.
The FAA can easily say "No drones for a bit while people chill" which should cut back on hobbyists or corporations flying (even if it's legally) and by the end of it people will moved on to the next thing to worry about
Time for ID-pings at night? (Score:1)
In the daytime, you can theoretically see the registration number. I say "theoretically" because "good luck with that" if the reg. number is on the back side or if the aircraft is moving quickly.
With tech getting cheaper and cheaper, perhaps it's time to require that night-flying aircraft either transmit their registration number and position or use their lights to indicate the registration number and position (say, by modulating the lights to encode this information).
This way, at least when people see the
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If you know about 249g surely you know about RemoteID?
The issue is always that the people who follow the laws are never the problem.
There's no 249g SUV-sized drone on this planet.
They would all be transmitting RemoteID or ADSB if they were in compliance.
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"There's no 249g SUV-sized drone on this planet."
It would have to be filled with Helium or Hydrogen.
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There's no 249g SUV-sized drone on this planet.
See, I knew it was Aliens.
Dog not Barking (Score:1)
Why haven't they followed these drones to see where they go after 11pm?
If the Feds are not lying through their teeth - which of course they are.
An F22 could easily get a lock on any prosaic craft and follow it.
They either can't or won't and both are cause for concern.
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Or, and hear me out on this one. There is nothing going on besides the Fox News crowd getting riled up past their bedtime.
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Monster drone star, beware! (Score:2)
The FAA needs to talk to this guy (Score:1)