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FAA Bans Drone Flights Near 'Critical Infrastructure' in New Jersey 79

Posted by msmash from the how-about-that dept.
The Federal Aviation Administration has issued a monthlong ban on drone flights over a large swath of New Jersey, the first broad prohibition of its kind since the authorities began investigating a spate of sightings last month that set off fear and speculation. From a report: The ban began late on Wednesday and will continue through Jan. 17, according to an F.A.A. alert. The notification cited "special security reasons" for prohibiting flights in airspace near 22 New Jersey communities, including three of the state's largest cities, Camden, Elizabeth and Jersey City. The F.A.A. said it had temporarily restricted drone flights over "critical New Jersey infrastructure" at the request of what it described as federal security partners.

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FAA Bans Drone Flights Near 'Critical Infrastructure' in New Jersey

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  • uh oh (Score:5, Funny)

    by GrahamJ ( 241784 ) on Thursday December 19, 2024 @12:30PM (#65025683)

    The Orion constellation is gonna be pissed

  • Why? (Score:3, Informative)

    by systemd-anonymousd ( 6652324 ) on Thursday December 19, 2024 @12:55PM (#65025771)

    Why would they ban behavior for something that's not happening? I was told in very strong terms from my trustworthy federal government that they have no reports of unauthorized drones, there are no drones, drones aren't from foreign entities, and they don't know what the drones that don't exist are.

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

      Clarification for the leaded gasoline era folks. The drones flying are not secret government drones. They're amateurs and other morons who think flying them near an airport to spot the so called secret drones looking for the lost nuke. You know the secret drones that mimic aircraft wing lights and suspiciously only fly at night because of the equipment that they carry can't operate with sunlight. That and the even less intelligent people shining laser pointers at airplanes they think are drones. I'll buy th

      • Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by systemd-anonymousd ( 6652324 ) on Thursday December 19, 2024 @01:29PM (#65025973)

        I'm not from the leaded gasoline era, there is no lost nuke, and the lost radiological material is the size of a pin and used for sensor calibration. The drones in question are a mix, but the ones showing anomalous behavior are not hobbyist drones. The government's responses indicate they're lying in one way or another.

        Also if there was a radiological or WMD threat there are numerous organizations that have conventional ground-based teams that would've been activated a month ago, such as CBRNE, HMRTs, DHS VIPR teams, etc. And I may not be old enough to huff leaded gasoline, but I am old enoug to remember how they shut down all highways in Boston over a fucking neon sign.

        • Define "anomalous". After you have done that, make a case for why the said "anomalous" behavior cannot be ascribed to shitheads who have nothing better to do with their lives. After you have done that, please quantify the degree to which the drone activity over Jersey has increased in the last few weeks relative to the time segments before it.

          If you cannot do ANY of the above, then you are simply fearmongering by spreading rumors.

          • The drones are reporetedly hovering for 6-8 hours at a time, and are coming in from over the ocean. At one point the government said it was coming from an Iranian mothership, but then said it wasn't. Shitheads with nothing better to do wouldn't be capable of doing any of that.

            Again, the government's communication on this makes no sense. And your conjecture can be dismissed with even a most basic understanding of the situation. Therefore you don't have even a basic understanding of the sitaution, yet are att

            • Oh, so the imaginary ones that don't actually exist. Gotcha.

              • You sound like a conspriacy theorist, claiming, without evidence, that the words of Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas and other government officials are lies or didn't happen. New Jersey assemblywoman Dawn Fantasia said the drones exist and are up to 6' in diameter.

                So what gives you the confidence to engage in a conspiracy theory and say the drones don't exist, contrary to all evidence?

            • Post the link where the government claimed the drones were coming from an Iranian mothership.

            • The drones are reporetedly hovering for 6-8 hours at a time

              Hovering for an entire workday and no one can use a spotting scope and a camera to get a clear picture?

            • So, after the ban goes into effect , then if there are any , umm, I'll just whisper it, "alien drones" still buzzing around , we should still be able to see them. Right?

        • but I am old enoug to remember how they shut down all highways in Boston over a fucking neon sign.

          I thought it was a Light Bright toy?

      • The lost nuke theory is stupid. countries have planes and satellites that would be able to cover much larger areas with better equipment.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by caseih ( 160668 )

        Most of these so called drones are commercial and private aircraft. As for toy drones the faa already regulates them and requires them to broadcast an id which you can check on an app. If that's not working then I don't see how this ban will have any affect. It's really bizarre to watch them all fall all over this apparent mass hysteria. I guess it's an admission all these drone regulations are nothing but theatre.

    • Re:Why? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by BishopBerkeley ( 734647 ) on Thursday December 19, 2024 @01:42PM (#65026033) Journal
      It's the magic of conservative media. Take a "social" media nonevent that can be interpreted ambiguously and promote it full tilt through worthless pieces of shit like Fox News, Joe Rogan, and the entire parade of "conservative" morons looking for something to blame on fictional "liberals", and you arrive at the government having to mollify the provincial shitheads gathering around with their virtual torches and pitchforks.

      Worse than tyranny of the minority, we are faced with tyranny of stupidity thanks to "social" media that give a patina of "grassroots" legitimacy to every morsel of meat fed to the bored, ignorant masses.

      • That's a retarded theory, when the government is holding classified briefings over the drone activity.

        • Prove it.

          • https://www.perplexity.ai/sear... [perplexity.ai]

            Did you know that if a boomer learns something without the TV telling him it, it's considered a bug, not a feature?

            • First of all, youâ(TM)re an idiot to think that some ai generated summary of scraped news sources is in any way reliable, remotely comprehensive or even reflective of the information scraped. But if Iâ(TM)m wrong and youâ(TM)re right, here is the concluding quote from the page you linked. âoeDespite the classified nature of these briefings, government officials have publicly stated that the reported sightings likely include a mix of authorized commercial drones, recreational drones, law

              • You don't know what perplexity.ai is? You don't know that the little numbers are called citations, and you can click them to get information from the source?

                Think of those little numbers like the numbers on your television remote control. If you hit "1" you get CNN, "2" Fox news, "3" MSNBC, etc. And then instead of waiting 50 minutes to hear a factoid, the words show up on the screen and you can read and think about them for yourself.

                >And to refute this link as proof: in one area the summary calls it clo

                • Answer this, dickhead: "The very page you cite has settled the matter. Why are you whining? " The classified meeting led to a conclusion. Is that not good enough for you, asswipe?

                  • I know it may be hard for you to remember, but I said:

                    >>the government is holding classified briefings over the drone activity.

                    And you said

                    >Prove it.

                    So I proved it. You bitched and moaned about AI and were probably upset the information wasn't being delivered to you through a television, but in your thrashing you made the mistake of acknowledging that yes, in fact, there were classified briefings over the drone activity.

                    Now, embarrassed at your mistake and probably wet with your own drool, you chal

                    • The conclusion of the meeting is more important than its occurrence. You are being deceptive by omitting that critical portion. The classified meeting dismissed your conspiracy theory, yet you have the gall to misrepresent that meeting as something that supports your conspiracy theory. Youâ(TM)re such an asshole.

                    • You're the one who asked me to prove it. I did, and you ignored that.

                      I'll discuss the conclusion of the panel and what I think about it--if you really care--once you actually address your *OWN* argument, which you wanted me to prove, and I did.

                      >You're such an asshole.

                      Cry more

                    • Iâ(TM)ve acknowledged the classified meeting. Your posts prove that you took the very article you cited out of context to deceive. The conclusion of the classified meeting is what it is. Your interpretation of it adds nothing to the subject. Why do you think your opinion matters?

                    • >I've acknowledged the classified meeting.

                      You'll have more luck in the future if when you demand someone "Prove it." and they deal with your attitude and do, you respond with "wow, thanks, you were right. But there's an issue in that...." Also not starting your reply with an irrelevant screen that implies the only reason I posted what I posted is I listen to "worthless pieces of shit," "morons," "provincial shitheads," with "virtual pitchforks and torches," that I'm part of a "tyranny of stupidity" eatin

                    • You're a waste of space.

                • From one of your links. https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/17... [cnn.com]

                  “We assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircrafts, helicopters, and even stars that were mistakenly reported as drones,” White House national security communications adviser John Kirby told reporters Monday.

                  “We have not identified anything anomalous or any national security or public safety risks over the civilian

    • Re:Why? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by RossCWilliams ( 5513152 ) on Thursday December 19, 2024 @02:21PM (#65026205)

      Why would they ban behavior for something that's not happening?

      This is a good meme with an audience and not surprisingly a bunch of people are hooking onto it to get attention. Some of those are politicians demanding "do something". The least damaging something to do is to hook on to the meme by banning behavior that isn't happening anyway. "There we didn't something. Satisfied?" The answer of course is no, not until the meme has run out of steam.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by Ksevio ( 865461 )

      Well there clearly ARE drones. Also planes, stars, lens flares, etc. Since there's question for the public of who's flying them, it's causing people to create lots of weird theories.

      The FAA can easily say "No drones for a bit while people chill" which should cut back on hobbyists or corporations flying (even if it's legally) and by the end of it people will moved on to the next thing to worry about

    • The government has made no such claims. They have said that most of the reports they have investigated turned out to be planes or other licensed aircraft, and they have said there is no evidence of a foreign threat.

  • In the daytime, you can theoretically see the registration number. I say "theoretically" because "good luck with that" if the reg. number is on the back side or if the aircraft is moving quickly.

    With tech getting cheaper and cheaper, perhaps it's time to require that night-flying aircraft either transmit their registration number and position or use their lights to indicate the registration number and position (say, by modulating the lights to encode this information).

    This way, at least when people see the

    • If you know about 249g surely you know about RemoteID?

      The issue is always that the people who follow the laws are never the problem.

      There's no 249g SUV-sized drone on this planet.

      They would all be transmitting RemoteID or ADSB if they were in compliance.

  • Why haven't they followed these drones to see where they go after 11pm?

    If the Feds are not lying through their teeth - which of course they are.

    An F22 could easily get a lock on any prosaic craft and follow it.

    They either can't or won't and both are cause for concern.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Or, and hear me out on this one. There is nothing going on besides the Fox News crowd getting riled up past their bedtime.

    • Get a life
    • Oh, yes, the Pentagon is just itching to deploy F22s, critical defense assets, to track drones in Jersey. Judicious application of defense assets, if there ever was one.
      • I'm sure they run drills that are far more expensive.
        • Of course they run drills that are more expensive! What a stupid fucking thing to say, and it has no bearing on whether there is a threat here that justifies the expense. God, you are one stupid fucking bot.
    • Can an F22 slow down enough to track a low flying drone for an extended period? A helicopter might be a better choice. But then there would be *two* drone sightings.
  • That ginormous drone masquerading as our sun had better watch out!
  • 3D printed, thrust vector powered NGAD RC plane. He's perfected even further now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

  • If you wasnâ(TM)t supposed to know about them, they would not have navigation lights on them.

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