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President Trump: UK Encryption Policy 'Something You Hear About With China' 108

President Trump has directly criticized the UK government's approach to encryption, comparing recent actions to those of China. Speaking to The Spectator, Trump said he confronted UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer about the Home Office's request for "backdoor access" to encrypted iCloud data, which led Apple to remove its Advanced Data Protection feature from British services entirely.

"We told them you can't do this... That's incredible. That's something, you know, that you hear about with China," Trump said after his meeting with Starmer. The remarks come as the Trump administration has directed Treasury and Commerce officials to examine UK tech regulations, including the Online Safety Act, for potential free speech violations and discrimination against US companies.

President Trump: UK Encryption Policy 'Something You Hear About With China'

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  • by Valgrus Thunderaxe ( 8769977 ) on Friday February 28, 2025 @11:44AM (#65201353)
    When the next American politician or agency asks for the very same type of back doors.
    • by jacks smirking reven ( 909048 ) on Friday February 28, 2025 @11:54AM (#65201375)

      This is the same guy who when asked about calling Zelenskyy "a dictator" just last week responded with "Did I say that? I can't believe I said that. Next question,"

      His supporters don't care if he contradicts himself , that's part of the appeal. It's quite convenient when you can constantly hold both sides of an issue and everyone around you tells you you're right each time. A literal hugbox where you can never be wrong, quite politically effective.

      • Or it is due to having learned how he approaches negotiations.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        It's the "never back down" strategy. Just lie and move the conversation on to something else. If you aren't president you can just accuse the other person of something else to get it done. Never admit you were wrong, just keep moving on to the next attack on your opponent.

        • And feel depressed about how much the "liberal" media gets pulled around by their noses with this.

          How many times did Trump "disavow" Project 2025 even when he had like half the writers on his staff and the media just... went along with it and now he can just go back on his word and act like we should all be surprised. It's maddening

      • After the broadcast of the meeting of Trump and Vance with Zelensky, I think we are now certain of the characters of the two Americans.

        One of the jaw-dropping comments from Vance:

        Zelensky - you haven't been to my country you don't know what it's like.
        JD Vaince - I've seen clips on tik tok. I know.

        • One of the single most shameful displays of America on the world stage in my lifetime.

          Just a room full of soft-belly-snowflakes trying to ambush a guy who has his problems but really rose to an occasion thrust upon him, all because it's a delicate situation to manage as the hegemon but Trump and Vance being the dullards that they are would prefer to run away, tails tucked then have to do actual work of leading of the state. Pathetic through and through.

      • He was making fun of the question not contradicting himself. Trump does not like Zelenskyy, by some measures he is a dictator. Regardless some people take any opportunity to attack Trump you are well off topic.

        As for supporting free speech, do you think the President is asking for back doors or some three letter agency.
        • Zelenskyy is not a dictator by any measure, he was fairly elected into his position and under The Constitution of Ukraine it is not allowed to have president elections during an ongoing war plus that the Ukraine parliament regularly vote on weather to keep the martial law in effect or not.
          • He cancelled the other political parties, controls the media (including jailing and killing Journalists) and has low public support. However I am sure you will say that Putin is not a dictator by any measure then since he was not only elected he had an election during the SMO (War.)
    • by MachineShedFred ( 621896 ) on Friday February 28, 2025 @12:13PM (#65201461) Journal

      You are looking for consistency from a guy who is 78, credibly showing signs of dementia, who has essentially abdicated power to an unelected private citizen who has no interest beyond self-dealing; and as a cherry on top, has been a compulsive liar for his entire adult life, never accepting accountability for anything even remotely non-positive.

      You might want to adjust your expectations.

      • by deKernel ( 65640 )

        You are looking for consistency from a guy who is 78, credibly showing signs of dementia,

        Guess you haven't been paying much attention in the 20+ years because his thought and speech patterns have not changed.

        who has essentially abdicated power to an unelected private citizen who has no interest beyond self-dealing

        Do you expect a President to sit there and go over every single line item? Hell no, he is a leader and leaders delegate.

        and as a cherry on top, has been a compulsive liar for his entire adult life, never accepting accountability for anything even remotely non-positive.

        I am guessing that you met any old school New Yorker because they all act like that.

        • Are you paid to make excuses for billionaire politicians?

          Why are you ok with being lied to constantly?

          Not even going into the policy which just confuses things. If you can't trust someone to make good-faith statements, you cannot trust them to actually deliver on anything at all. And you are somehow ok with that.

          Would you be ok if you were a manager and had an employee lying to you constantly? Because that's what this is - HE WORKS FOR US, not the other way around.

          Adjust your outlook please.

        • Do you expect a President to sit there and go over every single line item? Hell no, he is a leader and leaders delegate.

          Straw man. Nobody ever said that he's not supposed to delegate. However, there are rules to how this shit works:

          The Court listed in Morrison v. Olson (1988) certain factors as hallmarks of "inferior Officer" status, such as removability by a higher executive branch official other than the President, and limitations on the officer's duties, jurisdiction, and tenure. In Edmond v. United States (1997) the Court stated that "'inferior Officers' are officers whose work is directed and supervised at some level by others who were appointed by Presidential nomination with the advice and consent of the Senate."

          So if Musk isn't senate-confirmed as an Officer of the United States, which confirmed officer is directing and supervising him? In theory he reports to the Chief of Staff, who also isn't Senate-confirmed. Therefore, under the appointments clause of the Constitution and binding SCOTUS decisions, he should either be Senate-confirmed, or he doesn't have the authority to do what he's doing.

          Please

      • ... essentially abdicated power ...

        Plus, the GOP is now literal hostage to MAGA extremists who want the train of ideology and greed to keep moving despite the screams and mangled bodies. But government employees are the first step in a Trump-Musk robbery. Have you seen the GOP budget? It is stupidly optimistic. Somehow, stealing people's wages and welfare will cause more spending. (No, it will cause a depression.) Then, they will levy tariffs, as punishment against 'enemies', as control of inflation, as revenue for a bankrupt governmen

    • by Junta ( 36770 )

      He's not big on consistency in general, but this is an area where he might be fairly consistent. He doesn't like US law enforcement and intelligence agencies broadly speaking. He's about self-enrichment by whoring out the government to the highest bidder, and none of those folks want the government to have this sort of access either.

    • Site should be renamed to TrumpDot for the next few years.

    • Mod parent funny. You were going for funny, right? The word "consistent" in this context is completely hilarious.

      I am already sick and tired of the daily doses of orange stupidity in so many flavors. (But also disgusted by the latest cheap blackmail.)

      How about if Slashdot implements an option so my "front page" just skips over stories of the whatever stupid thing the orange puppet says today? Should be a simple check to see if that string is included in the story. Case sensitive, if you insist.

      I actually th

    • America would never do that. I mean never do that again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

  • Musk's Xitter has the best "free speech" policy.
    Say anything you want as long as it supports Trump and the Nazis.
    Get banned when you criticize Trump, Musk and the Nazis.

  • Trump and the attorney general are the only two people in the country who get to say what is legal. https://www.yahoo.com/news/fac... [yahoo.com]

    Trump banning news agencies from access because they do things that hurt his feefees. https://www.reuters.com/legal/... [reuters.com]

    And something that conservatives never mention. Trump taking guns first and worrying about laws later. https://www.c-span.org/clip/wh... [c-span.org]

  • by MpVpRb ( 1423381 ) on Friday February 28, 2025 @12:06PM (#65201427)

    ...I actually agree with Trump on this issue
    Reminds me of the old saying...Even a broken clock is right twice a day

    • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

      ...I actually agree with Trump on this issue

      When?

      https://www.politico.com/story... [politico.com]

      Or I suppose where... probably best to specify both since Trump's position seems to be very multifaceted.

    • by shanen ( 462549 )

      More like a broken calendar. It's right once every seven years. (When the month, day of month, and day of week align.)

      But the orange buffoon is so self-contradictory that there is no way to predict when he might say something right. And it doesn't matter because he's already contradicted it and will contradict it again.

  • ... Trump would never say no to the back door

  • Pot Meets Kettle (Score:5, Informative)

    by organgtool ( 966989 ) on Friday February 28, 2025 @12:20PM (#65201499)
    Christopher Wray was appointed as director of the FBI by Donald Trump and he spent most of Trump's first term petitioning companies to install backdoors in the encryption algorithms they were using. I don't know if Trump even knew about that when Wray was doing it, or if he forgot, or if he just completely changed his opinion on the subject.
    • Trump is only living in the immediate present; said something crazy last week? He doesn't remember that. Unless he likes the crazy way it sounds now, in which case that's always been his position. Promise to do X next week, or next year? Sure. When that time gets here and X hasn't been done, deny all memory of it. 100% confidence in whatever he's saying right this minute, and 0% ownership of any of it (including obvious consequences) tomorrow. ChatDJT.
  • Trump would scribble that executive order in sharpie today if he was told it would catch illegals or women seeking abortions.

  • by migos ( 10321981 ) on Friday February 28, 2025 @12:37PM (#65201557)
    So you mean purging non-loyalists in government and using FBI to persecute political opponents isn't like China?
    • So you mean purging non-loyalists in government and using FBI to persecute political opponents isn't like China?

      That's why there's the expression "takes one to know one".

  • Pot - kettle - black.

    As usual, Trump is just being a pompous and insightless ass. His only mode.

  • When Donald Trump speaks publicly, he does so with an eye toward remaining in the spotlight. He knows many of his supporters won’t hold him accountable if he contradicts himself—even within the same day—because they value his brazen style more than consistency. This dynamic rewards him for making ever more incendiary statements, which the media then dutifully amplifies.

    Worse still, he’s remarkably easy to goad: just point a camera at him, ask a provocative question, and watch him per

    • "Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refug

  • I'm surprised that no one has yet pointed out the hypocrisy on this matter.

    Yes, obviously, I agree with him that the UK is overstepping. However, back in 2016 [cnn.com], his solution to the FBI's inability to unlock the iPhone of the San Bernadino shooter was for the general public to boycott Apple until Apple decided it was willing to give the FBI the passcode.

    Now, it's possible that his mindset on the matter has evolved over the past decade. Perhaps he's gotten an ever-so-slightly better understanding of the proble

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