

How Miami Schools Are Leading 100,000 Students Into the A.I. Future 61
Miami-Dade County Public Schools, the nation's third-largest school district, is now deploying Google's Gemini chatbots to more than 105,000 high school students -- marking the largest U.S. school district AI deployment to date. This represents a dramatic reversal from just two years ago when the district blocked such tools over cheating and misinformation concerns.
The initiative follows President Trump's recent executive order promoting AI integration "in all subject areas" from kindergarten through 12th grade. District officials spent months testing various chatbots for accuracy, privacy, and safety before selecting Google's platform.
The initiative follows President Trump's recent executive order promoting AI integration "in all subject areas" from kindergarten through 12th grade. District officials spent months testing various chatbots for accuracy, privacy, and safety before selecting Google's platform.
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Literally in the summary - Google's Gemini.
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$10 says Gemini is going to be found as "too woke" and they switch to grok
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grok, gemini, chatgepetay, llama, what's the difference when you use them to teach kids to be lazy?
Re: Let’s take a guess (Score:1)
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it's a lot faster and a lot more fun and a whole bunch of exercise you probably normally wouldn't have done
Saying it's better than nothing isn't much of an endorsment
Re: Let’s take a guess (Score:2)
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Just last week we went for a 100km bicycle ride and someone on one of these electric mopeds joined us. They had one of those athletic watches that record your pace, speed, heart rate and whatnot, too.
Guess what, over the full course their fancy watch never saw a sustained pulse increase, nor did it go above 90-ish. Even the fittest among us didn't do so well, although we've been doing rides like this nearly every weekend for two decades now.
So yeah, riding an electric moped isn't an exercise and having chat
9+4=1 (Score:1)
Did digital clocks teach you to be lazy?
Fuck yes, kids couldn't read what time it was on a wristwatch that was non-digital. Absolutely floored me when I asked them if they'd learned how to tell time or do clock math and they'd said no. I asked them if they learned how to tie their shoes, some said no.
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deserving (Score:1)
In other news, a Florida chatbot was destroyed when it tried to cross the median on I-95 north of Miami after having 14 gin martinis.
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Yeah, next year's news: "AI self-destructs after trying to teach Florida man to pass the Turing test and failing".
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Between deaths outpacing births
Florida is known as "God's waiting room". Thousands of elderly move to Florida each year, and replace the thousands who died.
and people fleeing due to rising costs due to climate change,
Your link says nothing about population decreasing.
Florida is losing population.
Totally wrong. Totally ignorant.
No amount of AI will change that when science denial is mandated from the top.
Oh, you're a political hack. Pro-Tip: If you want to sway people, don't start off with easily proven lies. /. ID is 404ing)
(BTW, your
I'm a teacher (Score:5, Interesting)
The way teachers are dealing with this is by going entirely to in-class assignments done on paper and pencil. I'm Gen X and I didn't even turn in pen/paper big assignments, totally ridiculous. Nothing done at home or around a computer is to be trusted. And there is NOTHING to learn from teaching 3rd graders to be effective at using ChatGPT to do answers for them.
Giving the students the ability to cheat on their school computers seems backwards to me, but I guess when you can't trust anything that was possibly completed within range of a cell phone or computer, it doesn't really make any difference.
I'm also a big nerd. I believe in ChatGPT for certain uses. I've even tried to motivate my students to use it as a personal tutor. There is ZERO interest from students in doing this. Like, I specifically taught this in my class, and I believe 0 of my 150 students have gone on to use this on their own. I dunnow, maybe in the future it will change. B
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Re: I'm a teacher (Score:3)
I don't know if network can be completely disabled, but you can lock them down to a specific Wifi network during setup and then simply turn off the network. They should be unable to connect to any other network.
I haven't tested this, but it should work from what I know about the feature.
https://support.google.com/chr... [google.com]
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Yeah, but Chromebooks are always 1:1 so students can do computers at home if they're sick/have homework/etc. Can't lock the network.
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The way teachers are dealing with this is by going entirely to in-class assignments done on paper and pencil. I'm Gen X and I didn't even turn in pen/paper big assignments, totally ridiculous. Nothing done at home or around a computer is to be trusted. And there is NOTHING to learn from teaching 3rd graders to be effective at using ChatGPT to do answers for them.
Giving the students the ability to cheat on their school computers seems backwards to me, but I guess when you can't trust anything that was possibly completed within range of a cell phone or computer, it doesn't really make any difference.
I'm also a big nerd. I believe in ChatGPT for certain uses. I've even tried to motivate my students to use it as a personal tutor. There is ZERO interest from students in doing this. Like, I specifically taught this in my class, and I believe 0 of my 150 students have gone on to use this on their own. I dunnow, maybe in the future it will change. B
I am also a GenX, I did a lot of pen/pencil paper assignments, until I was able to handle the mechanical (not electrical, mechanical) typewriter at home. It wasn't until 1983 when my cousin got a computer (with printer) that I was able to use that. My first computer came in xmass 87 (Commodore PC-10-II, the only good thing was the graphics card, the rest was severely outdated) 1,6 years before I got to the Uni...
The answer is simple, let the kids use the school provided computers/laptops/tablets with intern
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But then everything becomes test based. What about writing a long essay for english? A research paper for history class? A project for science class? A program for Computer Science?
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Students are not in the school to learn stuff. Most are there only because they are forced to or to see their friends, this includes also those A students. Only some really rare individuals might actually go to school just because they like to learn things at school, I think I have met one of those in my life. The A-students might be willing to do extra work if it can earn them extra score. But it is pretty obvious no-one is interested in doing any extra work that is not mandatory and which offers no extra
The Case Against Homework, Grades, and even School (Score:2)
Homework was always a horrible idea whether involving LLMs or not, as explained by Alfie Kohn in 2012: https://www.alfiekohn.org/arti... [alfiekohn.org]
"After spending all day in school, our children are forced to begin a second shift, with more academic assignments to be completed at home. This arrangement is rather odd when you stop to think about it, as is the fact that few of us ever do stop to think about it. Instead of assuming that homework should be a given, or that it allegedly benefits children, I've spent the la
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going entirely to in-class assignments done on paper and pencil
This is a side effect I'm happy to see. For decades, schools have assumed that more homework was better than less homework. AP classes often aren't actually more advanced than regular classes, they just require more homework.
I've long felt that it wasn't necessary for schools to try to fill every waking moment with homework. There are other ways to learn, and other things to do. When I graduated from college in 1988, I felt a huge sense of amazement how much free time I suddenly had!
I'm thinking this isn't
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I love the poorly educated
-Donald Trump, Feb 2016
https://www.reuters.com/articl... [reuters.com]
Florida: leading the world in educational policy (Score:2)
I'll rephrase: Shouldn't we be alarmed?
Maybe we can see it play out in Florida before the rest of the world adopts it.
Will students be smarter? have better outcomes?
Thank you 105,000 high school students for being guinea pigs.
I'm guessing that this will favor the nerd/geek stereo types that make up this site. Our nerd offspring, good in math, bad at social skills, will become the next generation of Tech Bro's, and then we'll get our robots to stuff the Quarterback into locker. Ha! Take
Re: Florida: leading the world in educational poli (Score:2)
"Should we be alarmed"
Nah. This is what's great about a federal system. The states can experiment for the benefit of all.
Now, if "we" includes Florida parents, then yeah, maybe you should be alarmed. But you're not going to be because you live in Florida. That ship sailed long ago.
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Miami-Dade is only one county in Florida (one that's heavily populated). The rest of Florida will wait and see.
This will reverse the gains from covid (Score:1)
Crap like this will RAPIDLY correct for that.
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https://www.economist.com/unit... [economist.com]
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Lol, did Mississippi move up from 50th place?
Re: This will reverse the gains from covid (Score:2)
I don't know if they moved, but recent rankings put then above places like Arizona and Oklahoma for education.
Re: This will reverse the gains from covid (Score:2)
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I don't know if you're Archie Bunker or an Archie Bunker parody, but in Mississippi's public schools, the student population is predominantly non-White, specifically Black (48.5%), Hispanic / Latino (5.2%), and two or more races (3.3%), comprising 57% of the student body. White students, while the 2nd largest group, are a minority (43.0%).
Now, which of these groups is the target of your smack down of Mississippi?
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Lockdown had negative effects on learning, but red states did not pull ahead of blue states (primarily because red states are poor and being rich matters more than schooling).
And it wasn't a two year blue state school lockdown. Schools closed in March 2020. Red States generally re-opened in September 2020 (next school year). Blue states re-opened in maybe March 2021 - second half of the next school year. I can't believe there was a single school district that didn't re-open until March 2022.
It's also di
Weird coincidence (Score:3)
Re: Weird coincidence (Score:2)
You could choose from phantom fears.
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Re:Weird coincidence (Score:4, Insightful)
Tell kids they're there to learn, not for the grade.
Have more in-class writing.
Have more in-class reading too, led by the teacher.
Grade based on that and discussions.
Collect phones/smart watches/headphones at the door of each class. They can be hung in pouches on the wall.
Among other methods that can help.
The real problem is not Chat GPT. The real problem is a false meritocracy based on grades and test scores.
Preparing your children to be dumb (Score:2)
Who needs to think? That thar computer machine be done doin' a good'nuff job, YEE HAW!
Fad (Score:2)
Education in the US is run primarily by dimwits. Dimwits follow the latest fad, largely due to fomo.
All the AIs were thoroughly checked... (Score:2)
... so that those AIs did not make the same mistakes some human teachers do, like this one:
https://www.gocomics.com/doone... [gocomics.com]
and said AIs behave EXACTLY like this human teacher in the last vignette here:
https://www.gocomics.com/doone... [gocomics.com]
Google Won!
FloridAI-man (Score:3)
Like Wikipedia (Score:2)
It's like Wikipedia, there comes the point one cannot ignore it and one cannot enforce a policy against it. So one needs to embrace it.
The problem is, that it makes grading assignments harder. A few years ago it was a nice exercise to ask students to spot the mistakes in an AI generated solution. You can't do this anymore as the AIs of today can solve the assignments perfectly. An assignment that you can't cheat using AI is also (too) hard for humans.
As one also cannot completely rely on AIs and stop teachi
Abuse children to make AI dumber (Score:2)
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The whole country has gone mad.
That it very much has.
Where's the grift? (Score:1)
If it's Miami-Dade, there is grift somewhere in this deal.
105'000 lemmings... (Score:2)
The stupid is strong with these people...
Coal.. (Score:2)
Cheating will not work. (Score:2)