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Funding For Program To Stop Next Stuxnet From Hitting US Expired Sunday (theregister.com) 38

Government funding for a program that hunts for threats on America's critical infrastructure networks expired on Sunday, preventing Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory from analyzing activity that could indicate a cyberattack, the program director told Congress on Tuesday. From a report: Nate Gleason leads a team at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) focused on nation-state threats against critical infrastructure, and this includes the CyberSentry Program.

It's a public-private partnership, managed by CISA, that looks for malicious activity on IT and operational technology (OT) networks in America's energy, water, healthcare, and other critical facilities. This includes threats along the lines of China's Volt Typhoon and Salt Typhoon intrusions -- network activity that may look like, or even start as, espionage, but ultimately enables the digital invaders to backdoor critical orgs and deploy cyber weapons to aid in a kinetic war.

Funding For Program To Stop Next Stuxnet From Hitting US Expired Sunday

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  • by OrangeTide ( 124937 ) on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @12:24AM (#65538416) Homepage Journal

    Why would important people care what happens to public infrastructure during a cyberattack?

    It's not like they realize that their private jets will be grounded too.

    • Re: (Score:1, Offtopic)

      by gavron ( 1300111 )

      Mar a Lago is a hotel. Its generators cover essential stuff but not everything. Generally that is refrigerators, HVAC systems, and emergency lighting. USSS bungalows aren't included. Neither is the anti-intrusion system they DON'T EVEN HAVE. But Mar a Lago is irrelevant. The White House and the Pentagon and the NSA are vulnerable.

      There's nothing like a "security expert" who thinks they're able to assess all the threats. I'm a security guy who knows the flaws. Lack of funding means lack of effort and

    • Won't help if all water in Florida is turned off.

      Anyone with a private well can expect to be invaded by thirsty people.

      • by HiThere ( 15173 )

        Most private wells depend on electricity to operate. And very few of them have backup generators.

  • by Rujiel ( 1632063 ) on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @12:26AM (#65538418)
    ..is to not partner with Israel in creating the next Stuxnet, but you better believe that partnership is ongoing.
    • Not partnering with Israel would be antisemitic!

      • by Anonymous Coward
        "Oy vey! We have a RIgHt tO dEfENd oUrSElvEs from [a people/territory that we have illegally occupied since 1967 and have been ethnically cleansing over time, murdering and terrorizing with immunity, demolishing houses, and even controlling and restricting their collecting of rainwater [amnesty.org] the whole time]."
    • Too late. The next Stuxnet already happened [wikipedia.org].

      The way to stop it is to have secure software. You're not going to stop it by scanning at the edges.
      • by Rujiel ( 1632063 )

        "The attackers gained access to the system using a compromised password for an inactive virtual private network (VPN) account, which did not have multi-factor authentication enabled.[20]["

        That doesn't seem comparable to Stuxnet

        • That doesn't seem comparable to Stuxnet

          Your idea of Stuxnet is "anything that allows you to hate Israel."

          • by Rujiel ( 1632063 )

            Stuxnet involved a worm meant to target centrifuges not for profit but to specifically disrupt a country's nuclear infrastructure, while the colonial pipeline hack involved ransomware and was claimed to be for-profit. Most of the money was recovered from the colonial pipeline hack, the hacker group involved "Darkside" was never proven to be a nation/state actor, and the group hasn't done anything else since 2021. Your comparison is weak.

            The Fukushima disaster was possibly brought about by Stuxnet infecting

    • by Anonymous Coward

      > A great way to "stop next Stuxnet"..

      ...is not to have any manufacturing industry at all, then it can't possibly hurt you!

      Honestly, I can't imagine how you can have this, and want manufacturing to return to the USA. Either you need to help manufacturers get set up, or you don't. If you don't, guess what... they won't get started.

  • Just what the Iranians have been waiting for, paybacks a bitch. Then comes Russia, China, North Korea and every script Kiddy with a manifesto.
  • Trump is a menace (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Targon ( 17348 ) on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @03:33AM (#65538602)

    Trump and his administration, plus the Republican enablers of that demented and egotistical lunatic are in the process of destroying the USA.

    • by gtall ( 79522 ) on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @04:36AM (#65538674)

      Worse, they are destroying the idea of America. Other countries can no longer trust the U.S. because la Presidenta just spews bullshit. That means they cannot count on the U.S going forward. And that results in routing their economies around the U.S.

      The other part of destroying America is destroying its soul as a place that works regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation, etc. All of that is now being monetized by this alleged administration and thus becoming soulless. The justice system is just the tip of the iceberg. More rot is occurring in the pop. which is now being taught that only money matters because the only people on top are the people for which money is everything. Truth, honesty, altruism, etc., the things that make life bearable, are becoming gutted and replaced with a dog-eat-dog value system.

  • by sabbede ( 2678435 ) on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @08:49AM (#65538986)

    "Funding agreements are still making their way through DHS processes and our work with CISA expired last Sunday,"

    So, it's tied up in red tape at the moment. Nothing in the article said the program was cancelled, just that there's bureaucratic BS to go through.

    • >> "Funding agreements are still making their way through DHS processes and our work with CISA expired last Sunday,"

      > So, it's tied up in red tape at the moment. Nothing in the article said the program was cancelled, just that there's bureaucratic BS to go through.

      Never let the truth get in the way of pushing a biased agenda.
      • by HiThere ( 15173 )

        Yeah, but if the people don't get paid, for whatever reason, they'll go elsewhere. The problem is real.

      • "National labs are not legally able to operate without funding from a government agency, so our threat hunters stopped monitoring networks on Sunday."

        This is more than a simple lapse since it forcibly halts all work. More importantly, it's indicative that the DHS is being mismanaged because they failed to meet a deadline that has been known for years.

    • You left the important part:

      "Funding agreements are still making their way through DHS processes and our work with CISA expired last Sunday," Gleason testified. "National labs are not legally able to operate without funding from a government agency, so our threat hunters stopped monitoring networks on Sunday."

      This is more than a simple lapse since it forcibly halts all work. More importantly, it's indicative that the DHS is being mismanaged because they failed to meet a deadline that has been known for years.

  • People don't understand that Agent Krasnov's role is to weaken the United States, and he's been succeeding with it.

  • A good starting point might be to stop funding the country which makes it? As a bonus, we might also get fewer exploding pager incidents too!
  • The best way to prevent the next Stuxnet from hitting the US is for the US to write it themselves to hit some other country. Of course, the Stuxnet after the next is another issue.

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