MP3 Adapter for Regular Stereo Equipment 34
Vitriol writes "
Apparently Adaptec is teaming with goodnoise to create
technology that would let MP3's be played on regular
stereo equipment from home-burned CD's. All I want is a portable.
Bet Sony won't make one! "
I've got one that *records*! (Score:1)
My device: a Sharp 722 MiniDisc recorder [sharp.co.jp]. (The $220 model is the recently discounted Sharp 702 [sharp-usa.com]).. Or you can go Sony [sony.com] if you like...
MD recordings make MP3s sound like crap.. But you can still record them, nonetheless...
Output? (Score:1)
The wide, wide, world of mp3s ... (Score:1)
Well, for those of you who are interested in buying a singular cable, and keep your computer close in the same room as your stereo, you can always run the line out from your sound card in through an auxiliary input on your amplifier (the cable to do this is available at most places that sell audio equipment, including Radio Shack among others for $5 - $25) My experience with this setup has been very satisfactory, and it might be worth looking into. That way mp3s come out through whatever your stereo is, which offers the added benefit of making tapes of mp3s, which is generally a little cheaper that the whole CD-R thing, and less likely to get screwed up.
Already Have Portable Mp3 Players (Score:1)
The company Diamond Multimedia has already come out with a portable mp3 player that allows you
to download mp3s off your computer to the player
using a special cable. The actual unit comes with 32meg of space built in but you can buy expansion
memory cards in an aditional 16meg or 32meg. The player is very small and very light. It comes ready to use with headphones and batteries as well as software to rip your own mp3s and mp3s of some songs to try. (they are really bad though..) It also has an internal graphic eq and a sampling unit that allows you to tag a part "A" of a song and a point "B" and it will play the content between the points over and over again. It can be pluged into your home stereo system by getting an RCA cable and plugging it into the aux or line in of your stereo. -mosoka
How much MP3 music can fit on CD? (Score:1)
worked it out once... Mp3's are approximately 1:12 compression ratio at 128kbps.
now, you will probably record the mp3's in mode 1, which will only give you 650MB or so instead of audio's 740MB, so we recalculate :
740 MB / 74 mins == 10 meg per minute
.:. 650MB == 65 minutes of audio * 12 (compression) == 780 minutes.
YES! (Score:1)
Compression standards don't create piracy, inflated prices and anti-consumer companies do!
Maybe I should read it again but? (Score:1)
What Sony should do. (Score:1)
But I think Sony is currently a little hamstrung with MD; sure, ATRAC gets you about 5:1 compression, but ATRAC II (which is a few years old now) gets you between 10:1 and 20:1. I don't know what the sound quality is like, BTW, but it compresses the bands a little differently than ATRAC and differently than MPEG Layer III, too. Unfortunately, there's all those MiniDisc players and recorders that can't understand anything but ATRAC. So MD version 2 would be a disaster in most of the world at the moment.
cartridges (Score:1)
hardware mfr's read this... (Score:1)
If you make a stereo-component style device that reads MP3's and playlists from a standard-format data cd (ISO 9660), I will buy it. You will earn revinue from me and many like-minded people.
If you base the design of your system on the assumption that I'm a thief, i.e. incorporating encryption and licensing tools that limit my ability to manage the data myself, you won't see a dime.
Jon
How much MP3 music can fit on CD? (Score:1)
Ummm, this isn't going to work easily... (Score:1)
1. The bitstream is taken from the digital line-out on most home players and buffered then fed into a MP3 decoder. Great idea, but the bitstream is running at 12x the rate required for MP3s, and the digital outputs offer no way of pausing or stopping the cd player - what are you going to do, have 650Mb of ram buffer?!
2. Some sort of error recovery on resampled audio data (in the same way as a 56k modem decodes PCM from an original digital bitstream). Cons: less capacity but compatible with more players and a more expensive decoder.
Both ways you will blow your speakers if you play a mp3 CD on a standard CD player - some players will mute the DACs and give you digital output on tracks with certain formats, some won't.
This sort of thing was thought up at the time of video-cds: just hook a video CD decoder onto the digital out of an audio player. This was easier, as the data rate is at least the same, although the error correction isn't compatible.
What this system *won't* do is to let you play iso9660-recorded MP3 CDs. I have no idea how it'll work for playing individual tracks either - maybe you select the tracks for 15 minutes of mp3 play and it buffers the bitstream in ram? You won't get constant play as there's no method for the decoder to control the cd player unless it knows lots of IR codes and has some pretty advanced pattern matching to ensure that it doesn't get overlaps in the data it receives from the cd player after a pause/restart operation.
They'd have more luck making a home CD-player which played mp3s. Something which is well within the reach of the companies involved.
that would be sweet! (Score:1)
Come on! Do it right!!! (Score:1)
...the related note... (Score:1)
I heard at one point that a burned CD should sound better than a pressed one. The explanation given was that clocking was done more precisely on the burned CD. This presupposes, obviously, that the CD reader in your computer is better than the one in your stereo (not likely in most cases, I would think, but I don't know for sure). The strange thing was that the claim was supported by a few people who had listened. Not that I got a chance to listen, but if someone sends me a CD of something I have...
By the way, I'd rather not have my computer's sound card involved in sound reproduction (sound quality sucks), so a dedicated MP3 player would be just dandy. Even if my computer didn't make any noise...
:)
The interface... (Score:1)
My MP3 CDRs have ~10-15 directories on each, so I can sort out things. How the heck would you interface, esp. with a remote? Your remote would need to have a lcd monitor. Or be a wearable.
Mmmmm, wearable....
Anybody use IR to play Mp3s right now? Who's doing the Winamp plugin?!
CD-R audio copy quality (Score:1)
I am curious what setup you used to copy the CD. In what ways did the CD-R disk sound worse?
-beb (who tries to fight the audiophile genes to save his wallet)
Headline news: Coward points out blunty obvious... (Score:1)
So what? (Score:1)
(Of course, it goes without saying that the audio output from the cdrom to the sound card is analog -- but cdda2wav and cdparanoia use the scsi interface which *should* be digital to digital.)
MP3 "Discman" (Vaporware ?) (Score:1)
I've seen an item similar to what people are requesting: a portable player for MP3 tracks written to CD-R media.
It certainly sounds like vaporware, but the curious might want to take a look [naiam.com].
How much MP3 music can fit on CD? (Score:1)
A standard CD-R blank holds 650MB of data. MP3s can be encoded at various bitrates, the most popular being 112, 128, 192, and 256kbps (kilo-bits per second).
For a 650MB blank:
I'm waiting for the DVD-Rs to come down a bit more in price. First generation blanks are 5GB each, yielding:
while the second-generation media should have 18GB of capacity: so about two weeks of music on an 18GB disc.So what? (Score:1)
The errors are noticable in music as little pops and clicks (which I can only hear on a good stereo), but are of course as plain as day to /usr/bin/diff.
Switching from cheap blanks to name-brand ones solved the problem for me. Your mileage may vary.
And yes, CD/CD-Rs are nothing like floppy disks or other digital media you are probably used to....
So what? (audiophiles) (Score:1)
True audiophiles still use vinyl. Nothing can compare to an old tube amp and high quality (note..HIGH quality cartridge and stylus).
Digital is good, but I still prefer my vinyl.
Note - I'm not saying digital is bad. Digital is great in fact, but when listening to music, most music junkies use vinyl still.
So what? (Score:1)
On a related issue, my friend used his new CD-R writer to copy an audio CD. Then we did a side-by-side comparison of the sound of the original to the sound of the copy, and there was very noticable loss of quality! This is counterintuitive, I was expect a straight binary copy to be indistinguishable. Has somebody mandated that the copying software "dither" the audio bits to cause degradation, or is this just a bug in the software, or is there some other explaination?
MP2 (Score:1)
the real question... (Score:1)
Answer: no, and that sucks