Tom Petty forced to pull mp3 from site 31
BOredAtWork writes "Tom Petty has been forced to remove an mp3 of "Free Girl Now" from his web site. Looks like record labels are getting ever more anxious over digital music via the internet... "
Why? (Score:1)
The big boys are scared shitless (Score:1)
What money? The song is a piece of crap. I wasted bandwidth downloading it. More likely they felt the song would hurt CD sales by dimming expectations for the album. The singing sounds like an alcoholic doing a bad Bob Dylan impersonation.
You want some good mp3s? Go to mp3.com's electronica section and check out Xylox. He shows real potential.
Groucho
Regardless, it's "good"... (Score:1)
- The Beastie Boys Public Enemy and now, Tom Petty
I read an interview with Chuck-D recently and it sounds like he has plans to cut the record industry out of the loop somehow. It'll happen, it can't not happen. The artists want this format to work, it's the people that make the REAL money that are trying to crush it. If the artists could cut the middle-man out of the industry, they wouldn't suffer as much as people think they do. The real money in the music industry is in selling 10 cent discs for 20 bucks.The big boys are scared shitless (Score:1)
They saw how many people downloaded it and thought...oh SHIT...that's lots of money we could have made.
I swear, it makes me sick.... all these damn major labels consolidating and screwing everyone (the artist, the consumer, etc)
Indie labels are becoming a lot more powerful thanks to the internet. Go ahead, WB and the like...give yourself tons of bad press...only makes it better for us.
The big boys are scared shitless (Score:1)
Why? (Score:1)
That would mean no one could buy a CD with cash anymore! "No sir, you must use a credit card and valid ID when purchasing that CD. Its so we can track you down like a dog if you make an illegal copy for your buddies."
Well I got "Free Girl Now" (Score:1)
If any one missed it and want's it let me know and I will put it somewhere where you can download it for "Evaluation Only". *wink*
Might be a publicity stunt too.... (Score:1)
The article said there was 150,000 downloads of it in a week. If they folks had also bought the record it would be Gold already.
Because. (Score:1)
The artists, do, after all, produce the music... and in not too long from now, they're going to start getting annoyed when the technology makes it possible for the artists to see that the labels are not on the artists' side: they're on _their own_ side.
Oops.
They won't tolerate it too long, either. Look at Chuck D of Public Enemy.
Cheers,
Why? (Score:1)
This is going to become a very sketchy area over the next few years, because now I could buy the CD and make a decent MP3 and then send it to everyone. It would be to expensive to hunt down everyone who does this. As well record companies could sell music via MP3, but then the same thing would happen. I guess they could put a digital watermark in the
Stuart Eichert
U. of PENN student/FreeBSD hacker
To a certain extent... (Score:1)
Perhaps I do agree with you in some senses that artists currently under contract can't bitch and whine too much. However, bear in mind this thing: most artists sign long-term deals with labels when they start out, so the label effectively "owns" them for a period of years (at least 3 in most cases, and possibly up to 10).
Now, backflash to 1994. You're a new group/singer, and are on the edge of hitting it big. A label comes to you, feeds you a contract (which, if you weren't totally stupid, you had a good lawyer look at), and you sign it. Did you think about MP3? Of course not.
So, don't blame all the artists. They made an informed decision at the moment, and are getting screwed by technological progress. You can bet your sweet @$! that the next time those artists go in for contract renegotiation, this will be explicitly stated in their contract (one way or the other).
The big problem here is the RIAA. They're treading the dangerous line of collusion to prevent competition. I wouldn't be surprised if someone files a complaint soon with the FTC alledging strong-arm tactics and anti-competative actions.
The RIAA (and it's component labels) are too stupid to see a great oportunity. MP3 gives you the chance to do huge shipments. Think of it this way: a hit sells 100,000 or 200,000 copies. A big hit does a million or so. Smashes do a couple million. So, maybe you (ie the label) make $4 profit for each CD = $8 million for a smash. Now, if you managed to sell the songs on that CD for $0.25 each (figure 4 songs/CD that sell, the rest are small potatoes (volume wise)) but, because they're so cheap, you sell 20 million copies instead of 1 million. So: 20e6 x .25 x 4 = $20 million. Even if you lose half to artist royalties, promotion, and misc costs, you still make more than the CD sales.
-Erik
(still waiting for the RIAA to take it's head out of the sand and smell the money in MP3s)
streaming mp3s by the guy TP got his sound from (Score:1)
http://metalab.unc.edu/pjones/test.mpeg.html
RIAA Obsolete? (Score:1)
Traditionally, the distribution of "rich" media (non-print) required physical devices to be transferred, with the exception of radio which is a) lossy, and b) unpredictable.
The RIAA benefitted from this limitation by creating a mini monopoly for each new work. The government granted these monopolies legitimacy by enforcing copyright laws.
The technical limitation has been removed by the internet and mp3. Because the RIAA has been benefitting from it for so long, they view their mini monopolies as "god-given" rights, when in fact they are just artifacts of the technology they have so long been depending on.
What the RIAA *should* do if they want to survive, is to setup the most comprehensive mp3 database in the world and sell advertising, concert tickets, and other promotional materials.
If not, someone (like me) will beat them to it -- and U.S. laws do not apply everywhere...
No Subject Given (Score:1)
They pulled it cuz...it sucked! (Score:1)
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Why? (Score:1)
I just want it all to end. Mp3 forever!
The days of RIAA power are numbered (Score:1)
Free Music - Time for New Business Models! (Score:1)
1) Why do these advertisements have to be for corporate sponsors? Why not have Public Service Announcements or causes near to the artists' heart?
2) Subscription model: Set up an