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Taz writes "The NAiAM CD-MP seems to be vaporware, but
MP3.COM has just posted an article listing a whole slew of new MP3 players for the car and home, some of them are even shipping right now. "
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I'm confused. On the audiorequest page it states that it cannot be used for illegal duplication, because it has no digital output. BUT, it also says that it works by encoding to a CD-R. What, is the CD-R locked in the case?
Yeah, minidiscs are a fairly nice improvement over CDs, since they add recordability and are smaller, but they still have the problem of being only 74 minutes per disc. Of course, current mp3 players are no better, but if an mp3 player with a capacity of at least 300 MB were to come out, that would allow me to carry around 5 hours of music in one piece, while a minidisc player would force me to carry 4 minidiscs with me in order to have 5 hours of music to listen to.
Anyone know where I can find any more information about the quality of mp3s at various bitrates? Everybody claims that 128kbps is "CD quality," even though it's not really. What improvement in sound quality would 160kbps mp3s have over 128kbps? What about 196kbps or 256kbps? What's a good rate to use if you had, say, a 6.4 gig capacity? Is the difference between 196kbps and 256kbps enough to make it worth using 256kbps, or would that be overkill?
An answer to any/all of these questions, or a link to a nice overview of bitrate/quality issues would be nice =)
How in the Sam Hill would this increase the accident rate? Plug in your CD-R of favorites, and you won't be fiddling with it for 10 hours. Safer than a radio, where you're changing stations to avoid commercials, or a CD or tape player, where you're changing tapes, having to rewind, or trying to skip songs. Safer than having tapes and CDs scattered about, one of which might slide under your feet, or might fly and hit someone in an accident.
I would love a portable mp3 player.. something to jog with.. and no skipping.. I think a car mp3 player would be awesome too.. but.. i have a feeling they are gonna go the way of the eight track.. or maybe like minidisc.. be a fad.. fade out.. then come back with a vengence
Uh...yeah, OK. By god, the whole industry went to hell after Henry Ford stopped making the Model T.
Sheesh. Get a grip. Maybe we ought to lower the speed limit to 20.
The devices aren't dangerous, it's the imbeciles who use them that are dangerous. Hey, that's it! We'll pass a law making imbecility a crime! Hmm...I wonder who we can throw in jail first?
Every one of these new car devices increases the accident rate. I think that they should either invent some sort of "safety belt" to reduce automobile fatalities, or ban all car-audio devices.
I noticed amd's stuff.. it's just hard to find that sort of stuff... I think I would have to do some major searching and have to make it myself.. (ick)..
Read more carefully - it can read CD-R's with encoded mp3s on it - it cannot write CD-Rs.
IOW - it can encode songs off a CD toits build in HD, It can download mp3 files from your computer via parallel port, and it can read mp3 files off of a CD-R. But it cannot output any of the mp3 files except through the speakers.
The terms to look for are "Single Board Computer" (SBC), "biscuit" or "PC/104" for most small computers. These are intended to be small industrial computers.
Also don't forget the wearable technology. The MIT Wearables [mit.edu] and Yahoo:Wearables [yahoo.com] pages are good starting points. (I don't know where wearables.ml.org went to when DNS failed...)
The Wearable technology often uses PCMCIA-sized motherboards. Those pages have links to most of those boards. VGA/LCD, IDE, and the usual other interfaces are all on that one tiny card. Haven't seen sound on one yet.
I found where Wearables Central [blu.org] went to. See their long list of hardware there. [ The green decorations are navigation buttons without a clue ]
Umm... And you think a good way to pay the artist is to buy a concert ticket? You obviously aren't familiar with Ticketmaster's over-priced tickets. Pearl Jam had a huge dispute with Ticketmaster over the prices and does not sell tickets through them anymore (and thus misses playing many huge venues).
I guess if we make sure we don't go to concerts sponsored by Ticketmaster, then we'll at least be making a step in the right direction.
I am building a home MP3 player and I am using the LINUX kernel as the OS. I already have it finished. It allows you to rip CD's, play CD's, play MP3's on CD's, Use playlists, Encode CDDA files and raw PCM,WAV into MP3 format with enocding bitrates from 64 to 256. Also you can plug your RIO into it and either upload or download MP3's. There is a network card that allows you to connect to another machine to download MP3 files. I am using a 20x4 LCD display to run the whole thing. It will plug into any home stereo unit.
I have some other plans for this machine as well. Anyone interested in having one let me know.
I agree with your comment on the rio being easier to deal with than home/car componant systems. I just bought a top line car sterio w/ a tape deck so that I could use new portables as well as my CD player.
However, I believe that MP3s sound fine. I've never tried headphones, but I have my computer wired to my sterio and, as long as the sound card's mixer is set up right, they sound as good as CD's
audiorequest "no digital output"? (Score:1)
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mp3s - i like em.. (Score:1)
higher bitrates (Score:1)
An answer to any/all of these questions, or a link to a nice overview of bitrate/quality issues would be nice =)
I'm staying off of the road. (Score:1)
mp3s - i like em.. (Score:1)
audiorequest "no digital output"? (Score:1)
Use that noggin! How could any digital recording device work if you couldn't record on it?
I'm staying off of the road. (Score:1)
Sheesh. Get a grip. Maybe we ought to lower the speed limit to 20.
The devices aren't dangerous, it's the imbeciles who use them that are dangerous. Hey, that's it! We'll pass a law making imbecility a crime! Hmm...I wonder who we can throw in jail first?
=d=
I'm staying off of the road. (Score:1)
DIY (Score:1)
If anyone would like info on a DIY Mp3 player for your home.
DIY - MUST SEE TO BELIEVE (Score:1)
Even better than the product I posted yesterday.
It's ~$180 compaired to $850+
DIY - Hardware question.... (Score:1)
DIY - Hardware question.... (Score:1)
DIY - Hardware question.... (Score:1)
Ticket master... (Score:1)
No free time? (Score:1)
I found the perfect motherboard!!!!!!!! (Score:1)
The size of a hard drive w/ everything built on!!!!!!
mp3 for cars/home makes no sense. (Score:1)
Why not just buy that rio thing and use a tape adapter? Your not going to loose much and saves the hastle of moving the mp3s around.
As for home use, MP3s just don't sound that good.
Listening with headphones or through a good stereo reveals the truth..
Maybe mp4 will change that....
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audiorequest "no digital output"? (Score:1)
IOW - it can encode songs off a CD toits build in HD, It can download mp3 files from your computer via parallel port, and it can read mp3 files off of a CD-R. But it cannot output any of the mp3 files except through the speakers.
Plenty of tiny boards. (Score:1)
Also don't forget the wearable technology. The MIT Wearables [mit.edu] and Yahoo:Wearables [yahoo.com] pages are good starting points. (I don't know where wearables.ml.org went to when DNS failed...)
The Wearable technology often uses PCMCIA-sized motherboards. Those pages have links to most of those boards. VGA/LCD, IDE, and the usual other interfaces are all on that one tiny card. Haven't seen sound on one yet.
More tiny boards. (Score:1)
Car MP3 player (Score:1)
I guess if we make sure we don't go to concerts sponsored by Ticketmaster, then we'll at least be making a step in the right direction.
MP3 HOME/CAR PLAYERS! (Score:1)
I have some other plans for this machine as well.
Anyone interested in having one let me know.
I plan on mass producing these very soon!
tmendoza_1998@yahoo.com
mp3 for cars/home makes no sense. (Score:1)
However, I believe that MP3s sound fine. I've never tried headphones, but I have my computer wired to my sterio and, as long as the sound card's mixer is set up right, they sound as good as CD's