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LinOx writes "Over
on Aint-it-cool-news
they're showing a link to the "new" Trailer C, which is a
cool edited version of the clips from the 60 minutes
interview with George Lucas. " Its fan art, but
its still prequel stuff. (drool drool).
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I cannot believe that this kind of stuff can happen-- could you imagine the kind of suffering fans had to go through to get little clips and such back in the 80's with the other StarWars?
Now, we miss 60 Minutes and someone records an entire clip with all the stuff filtered and now we can all see it. Mine's going right now-- something tells me Slashdot is going to kill all the mirrors.
1) Isn't there a MOV player by QuickTime for Linux? IIRC, xanim comes with a lot of binaries for some codecs as distribution of source code is not allowed. Unfortunately, (trailer) video files tend to use the latest codecs... 2) Is there a MOV2MPG converter (for any platform)? I dislike MOV not only for being proprietary, the player also doesn't make use of the special video capabilities of my graphics adapter, which is quite important on my old system!
I quote from my recently failed attempt to watch the thing in Linux:
[andrew@fizgig download]$ xanim TFN_TrailerC.mov XAnim Rev 2.70.7.0 by Mark Podlipec (c) 1991-1998 Video Codec: Sorenson Video not yet supported.(E18) Audio Codec: QDesign Music Codec (QDMC) not yet supported. Notice: Video and Audio are present, but not yet supported.
Wasn't the Sorenson codec used in the official trailer two?
I know this is just fan art, but you can really spot the difference in the CODEC used on this movie vs. Trailer #2. Man, the CODEC for number 2 is amazing. Full screen playback on my PII/266 without a signle flicker, and the image was far better than any DVD I have seen. Incredible.
As for the content, it's Episode 1, how can you go wrong? The digital characters are stunning to say the least. Makes the dinos in JP look like claymation models. Check out the way the clothing moves! And those ears on Jar Jar!
Has anyone heard any rumours on the running time of the film? 2 hours? 3 hours? I need to find out just how many times I can see it the first day...
Is 2 hours and some minutes (as John Williams mentions in a recent interview).
Probably around 2:15 hrs... since the movie is going to be modified until 2 weeks before May 19, the running time could change a lot (hopefully it'll be longer, 3hrs?:)
Hi, My xanim doesn't play this file... XAnim Rev 2.80.0 by Mark Podlipec Copyright (C) 1991-1999. All Rights Reserved Video Codec: Sorenson Video not yet supported.(E18) Audio Codec: QDesign Music Codec (QDMC) not yet supported. Notice: Video and Audio are present, but not yet supported.
Motion JPEG encapsulated in Quicktime - Yuck! I spent an hour downloading something that can't be played by both xanim and MPEG-TV.
Why seems nobody to be able to create a plain and simple MPEG system stream? Create only I-frames if you want MJPEG... Why has it to be Quicktime and funny Codecs?
This is all about standardization -- the standards are out there. Linux supports them all. And no one uses them.
Differences fom Trailer B: 1. Source data: NTSC video, which has its own limitations... 2. Frame rate cut down to 15 fps (from 29.97, which is actually 59.94 interlaced, which was modified up from 24). 3. Guessing, I'd say they used the Sorenson Basic Encoder with QuickTime. Trailer B was built with the Sorenson Developer Edition Encoder, which costs around $400 if I'm not mistaken. Also gives you lots of fine-tunable parameters when creating the video stream, for the very high quality for Trailer B. Which is probably where the Apple Engineers came into play in assisting the creation of the QuickTime movie for Trailer B.
Swell. Guess it's time to fire up the old laptop and twiddle with winXX... Gotta love proprietary formats... btw: I watched it on a cow orker's slow winXX laptop, not bad..
Hmmmm, I just checked the info from trailer 2 and trailer 3, and they both appear to be using the Sorenson Video CODEC.
I can easily attribute the lower quality image to the source being of lower quality (probably pulled off of broadcast TV and recorded to a VCR or something). But with trailer 2, which is larger, I don't get any skipped frames or flicker. Yet in trailer 3 there are several times when I get skipped frames.
Very odd. I'm not even going to attempt to explain it, since I am not very familiar with this stuff.
Haven't actually checked that we can play this, but I've put up a mirror of the above motion jpeg for when it goes down.:) I'd try mtv [mpegtv.com] if xanim doesn't work.
The trailer uses Quicktime 3 which uses the Sorenson Codec which is not supported by xanim. Nor will it be any time soon due to apple reluctance to release the source (even under NDA). Apple also will not allow Sorenson to release the codec to anyone else either.
For trailer two someone posted a decent quality mpeg of the trailer that I have mirrored. I plan on mirroring the quictime and would hope to mirror the mpeg if anyone makes one.
This is amazing! (Score:1)
Now, we miss 60 Minutes and someone records an entire clip with all the stuff filtered and now we can all see it. Mine's going right now-- something tells me Slashdot is going to kill all the mirrors.
God bless the internet
there's a grip of mirrors (Score:2)
Damm! (Score:1)
Two questions on QuickTime MOV files (Score:1)
2) Is there a MOV2MPG converter (for any platform)? I dislike MOV not only for being proprietary, the player also doesn't make use of the special video capabilities of my graphics adapter, which is quite important on my old system!
Wait a second! (Score:1)
[andrew@fizgig download]$ xanim TFN_TrailerC.mov
XAnim Rev 2.70.7.0 by Mark Podlipec (c) 1991-1998
Video Codec: Sorenson Video not yet supported.(E18)
Audio Codec: QDesign Music Codec (QDMC) not yet supported.
Notice: Video and Audio are present, but not yet supported.
Wasn't the Sorenson codec used in the official trailer two?
Image quality (Score:2)
As for the content, it's Episode 1, how can you go wrong? The digital characters are stunning to say the least. Makes the dinos in JP look like claymation models. Check out the way the clothing moves! And those ears on Jar Jar!
Has anyone heard any rumours on the running time of the film? 2 hours? 3 hours? I need to find out just how many times I can see it the first day...
Also (Score:1)
BTW, if anyone's wondering, the trailers are all the same size, about 11MB.
Running time (Score:1)
Probably around 2:15 hrs
How about a RA v5.0 version? (Score:1)
My xanim doesn't play this file...
XAnim Rev 2.80.0 by Mark Podlipec Copyright (C) 1991-1999. All Rights Reserved
Video Codec: Sorenson Video not yet supported.(E18)
Audio Codec: QDesign Music Codec (QDMC) not yet supported.
Notice: Video and Audio are present, but not yet supported.
Has anyone munged it into a proper format yet?
Cheers,
Another SW article (Score:1)
It talks about all the rules regarding exhibition and then satirizes the whole thing. It made me laugh pretty hard so I thought I'd share!
=-AC
Woohoo! (Score:1)
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Veronica.nl and Starwars Bootleg (Score:1)
Isnt the startwars bootleg supposed to be playing tonight at veronica.nl? ANyone know what time in est or pst, and what the url will be? Thanks.
Jeff
I plan on grabbing it with xfileget, and watching it after i see it in theaters, just so it doesnt ruin it.
I HAVE AN MPEG VERSION (Score:1)
It's in Motion JPEG A, I'm not sure if that's compatible with Xanim. If it's not, email me. [mailto]
I don't wanna get charged for going over my data transfer limit, (it's Netcom) so I'm only making it available for 1 hour.
- Steve
Feel free to get it from me (Score:1)
http://bmetz.campus.vt.edu/tfn_trailerc.mov [vt.edu]
I can't see it (Score:1)
I hope not, so I can't see anything till it comes out!
Image quality (Score:1)
Flattened movie available now (Score:2)
is playable on xanim.
DOES NOT WORK! (Score:1)
Why seems nobody to be able to create a plain and simple MPEG system stream? Create only I-frames if you want MJPEG... Why has it to be Quicktime and funny Codecs?
This is all about standardization -- the standards are out there.
Linux supports them all.
And no one uses them.
This is ridiculous.
Image quality (Score:1)
1. Source data: NTSC video, which has its own limitations...
2. Frame rate cut down to 15 fps (from 29.97, which is actually 59.94 interlaced, which was modified up from 24).
3. Guessing, I'd say they used the Sorenson Basic Encoder with QuickTime. Trailer B was built with the Sorenson Developer Edition Encoder, which costs around $400 if I'm not mistaken. Also gives you lots of fine-tunable parameters when creating the video stream, for the very high quality for Trailer B. Which is probably where the Apple Engineers came into play in assisting the creation of the QuickTime movie for Trailer B.
-Virgil
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mirror (Score:1)
http://whitebox.dhs.org/sw/trailer-c.mpg [dhs.org]
Updated Mirror List (Score:2)
mine:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~mahrt/starwars/T
others:
ftp://209.44.26.64/pub/starwars/TFN_TrailerC.mo
http://www.starnetc.com/starwars/index.html
http://empire.res.wabash.edu/TFN_TrailerC.mov
ftp://t3:t3@209.53.30.233/TFN_TrailerC.mov
http://ciateq.mx/~elwen/starwars/TFN_TrailerC.m
ftp://www.starwars.nu/trailer-c_tfn.mov
http://www.fh-sbg.ac.at/~tstadlau/starwars/trai
http://www.shatteredrose.com/TFN_TrailerC.mov
http://163.120.93.51/TFN_TrailerC.mov
http://www.landspeeder.com/TFN_TrailerC.mov
http://www.blackjedi.eu.org/movies/tfn_trailerc
http://www.elombligo.com/trailer_star_wars.htm
http://www.theed.net/TFN_TrailerC.mov
http://josh.rlc.net/trailers/trailerc.mov
ftp://phroputer.dhs.org/pub/FanTrailers/TFN_Tra
http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~brittin/images/tra
http://students.washington.edu/achen/TFN_Traile
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~achen/TFN_Traile
http://www.dianoga.com/movies/TFN_TrailerC.mov
ftp://ftp.reborn.net/TFN_TrailerC.mov
http://foobar.dhs.org/starwars/
http://bmetz.campus.vt.edu/tfn_trailerc.mov
60 Minutes Transcript/Video? (Score:1)
-S. Louie
Thanks guys (Score:1)
trailer C in RealVideo 5.0, G2, AVI, Quicktime (Score:2)
Ok, I cranked up Premeire and RealEncoder and have RealVideo, AVI, and Quicktime versions at
http://solo.gatech.edu [gatech.edu]
If I get a chance, I'll mirror the MPEG version there tomorrow.
-adam a
there's a grip of mirrors (Score:1)
Most of the mirrors are past their connection limits. The one at Advancenet an the one in Mexico are working and the download speed is pretty good.
A list of mirrors plus request for more (Score:3)
Advancenet [209.44.26.64]
Jason Holtslander [starnetc.com]
Star Wars HUB [wabash.edu]
ToodlePip! FTP [209.53.30.233]
Ciateq (Mexico City) [ciateq.mx]
starwars.nu (Sweden) [starwars.nu]
SKYNET (Austria) [fh-sbg.ac.at]
James Wj Rose [shatteredrose.com]
Benjamin Everson [163.120.93.51]
James Connatser [landspeeder.com]
BlackJedi.eu.org (UK) [eu.org]
El Ombligo (Argentina) [elombligo.com]
Theed.net [theed.net]
josh.rlc.net [rlc.net]
Thanks to the mirrors so far; many of these mirrors were already at their limit so if you can mirror this file, please send them a note [mailto].
How about a RA v5.0 version? (Score:1)
and twiddle with winXX... Gotta love proprietary formats... btw: I watched it on a cow orker's slow winXX laptop, not bad..
Grumblesmurf,
Mirrors - University of Washington (Score:1)
students.washington.edu/achen/TFN_TrailerC.mov
weber.u.washington.edu/~achen/TFN_TrailerC.mov
These should be added to the theforce.net site soon, so get the movies now!
Wait a second! (Score:1)
I can easily attribute the lower quality image to the source being of lower quality (probably pulled off of broadcast TV and recorded to a VCR or something). But with trailer 2, which is larger, I don't get any skipped frames or flicker. Yet in trailer 3 there are several times when I get skipped frames.
Very odd. I'm not even going to attempt to explain it, since I am not very familiar with this stuff.
MPEG of trailer A and B (Score:1)
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~mahrt/starwars/t
Trailer B:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~mahrt/starwars/C
How about a RA v5.0 version? (Score:1)
mirror (Score:1)
Thanks!
Haven't actually checked that we can play this, but I've put up a mirror of the above motion jpeg for when it goes down. :) I'd try mtv [mpegtv.com] if xanim doesn't work.
http://rain.ashlu.bc.ca/~giles/starwars/ [ashlu.bc.ca]
Now, anybody want to do a real mpg conversion?
How about a RA v5.0 version? (Score:1)
For trailer two someone posted a decent quality mpeg of the trailer that I have mirrored. I plan on mirroring the quictime and would hope to mirror the mpeg if anyone makes one.