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Spielberg to Direct Wallace and Gromit? 54

ost writes "There was a recent article in an Austrian newsapaper saying that Wallace and Gromit Creator, Nick Park, signed a deal for four movies with Steven Spielberg's Company DreamWorks. But the main thing i want to point out is that if Wallace and Gromit are to go to Hollywood, that poor penguin that was the villian in "The Wrong Trousers" has to be re-sozialized!" The article is in German - head over to the Tower of babel fish to get the skinny. I do enjoy Spielberg equaling Play mountain in the Fish - makes the translation all worth it!
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Spielberg to Direct Wallace and Gromit?

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  • by Anonymous Coward
    ...or the predictable evilness of a German soldier.
    Evil? The lesson you learned from that movie was "German soldiers are evil"?

    Oh yea. He portrayed the American soldier as upstanding champions of human morality. "Look! I washed my hands for dinner!"

    Bah.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Just misunderstood!
  • by Anonymous Coward
    I've just read through the articles and rumors, and so far I haven't found anywhere that really says the film will feature good 'ole Wallace and Gromit?

    Well, except for Hemos's slashdot post.

    Does anyone know if Chicken Run will feature Wallace and Gromit?? Please Please Please post a link if you've seen something that indicates that W&G will appear in the film.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 31, 1999 @11:14AM (#1573680)
    Here's a Mr. Showbiz article [go.com] on the matter, in plain ol' boring English.

    Note that this is more of a Katzenberg (booo) deal than a Spielberg project.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 31, 1999 @11:25AM (#1573681)
    Park, and Wallace and Gromit, are about creativity. Spielberg's about marketing. While Aardman and Park especially deserve Good Stuff, I sure am sorry to see them end up where the neat bits - the lighting, the details - will almost assuredly be cut or replaced by ersatz cuteness and tie-in stuffed animals on sale near you for $14.95.

    Gah. Bosh. FUI.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 31, 1999 @12:41PM (#1573682)
    There's a neat student made Wallace and Gromit animation here.
    [cornell.edu]
    http://www.tc.cornell.edu/Visualization/contrib/ cs418-sp94/1998/wallace.and.gromit.1998.9. mpg.mpg
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 31, 1999 @10:27PM (#1573683)

    One: Spielberg is to direct these? What a ridiculous conclusion, contrary to anything the article says.

    Two: It's five movies, not four.

    Three: They aren't even Wallace & Gromit movies. The first is Chicken Run, and the second is probably something to do with Tortise and the Hare. I guess it's possible that a W&G movie might be made, but you can't draw that conclusion from the article.

    Four: Bablefish mistranslation humor is so passe.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 31, 1999 @04:53PM (#1573684)
    The king of Product Placement vs. a director? C'mon. I can see it now:
    SS: Here you have Wallace saying the moon is made of cheese.
    NP: Right, cheese.
    SS: Could you be a little more vague? How about "ripe curdled stuff". There's no zip to that line.
    NP: Well, what did you have in mind?
    SS: (slowly, sounding out each syllable) Vel-VEE-ta!
    NP: What?
    SS: Velveeta.
    NP: Wallace wouldn't say that. He doesn't know much about brand names, and he forgets the ones he knows after a little while.
    SS: Dammit, Nick - Kraft'll give us a million six if Wallace says the moon's made of Velveeta. It'd be a wonderful ad campaign - the moon, and Velveeta. Who'd forget that?
    NP: Wallace would.
    SS: The old fart says Velveeta, Park. Next we have a stove on the moon. That ought to be a Kenmore....
  • It's claymation. They're gonna go about doing it the way that they always went about doing it: basically clay and taking a picture of it. Actually, Nick Park will probably come up with some claymation innovations, but I doubt that is what you're talking about.
  • by keith ( 9 ) on Sunday October 31, 1999 @02:50PM (#1573686) Homepage
    Dreamworks is a studio. They're going to market and distribute movies made by Nick Park. They were already gonna market and distribute Chicken Run, the next Aardman project. To think that Spielberg is gonna direct the movie, or that it'll be overcommercialized is very foolish on two levels. First of all, Wallace and Gromit, the typical Nick Park claymation, IS heavily commercialized (in England). There are tons of posters, t-shirts, and so on. Secondly, if American Beauty can grow out of Dreamworks then don't assume it's all gonna be crap. Spielberg is obviously not gonna direct this stuff, or why the hell would they be working with Nick Park, probably the single createst director in claymation. Nick has won more Oscars than Steven! Oh well. I guess I should be used to slashdot posters thinking they know everything about topics that they don't follow or know little about.
  • I actually saw a Schindler's List T-shirt once. It may have been a promotional item, or a bootleg, who knows. Definately not a T-shirt movie though.

    It's a great movie, and proof that Spielberg can put out a decent picture. I really hope he doesn't destroy W&G.
  • by Skyshadow ( 508 ) on Sunday October 31, 1999 @11:07AM (#1573688) Homepage
    Hey, lay off the Wallace and Gromit penguin (Feathers McGraw). As cute and cuddly as Tux is, it was just fantastic to see how they could make an expressionless penguin a villain just by giving him a menacing musical score.

    Maybe we could brand Feathers as the unofficial mascot of any future releases of a "MS Linux"-type product -- that'd be so perfect. Like Tux, just that somehow you just know he's evil...

    ----

  • by BluBrick ( 1924 ) <blubrick@ g m a i l.com> on Sunday October 31, 1999 @11:19AM (#1573689) Homepage
    Oh by the way, have you seen this chicken [aardman.com]?

  • The T-Shirt came with the Boxed Collecters edition of the movie, IIRC.



  • damn, I liked the original nick park creations because they reek of quality, attention to detail and when viewed look like those high quality totally obsessive student films (read non commercial)... remember tim burtons student works (vincent - correct me if I'm wrong).

    but mainstream hollywood will never understand or capture 'wallace & grommit' .. essetially the creation of an english (northern) ecentrics over-active imagination.

    dont be fooled. Any work done by Mr S. is for money only. I'll be waiting for reviews and shorts.


  • yeah good point..... though I'm sure that the person behind wallace's voice (Peter Sallis) and favourite cheese (WENDSLEYDALE, Lancashire hotpot) sort of point to the north. Though I must admit maybe I'm confusing the man with his creation :)

    nice to see they use python to script the site (even of they do use flash)... http://www.aardman.com/wallaceandgromit/workshop/f ashion.py
  • AFAIK, Aardman is from Bristol, which is in the south-west of England (near the Welsh border).
  • by acb ( 2797 ) on Sunday October 31, 1999 @04:58PM (#1573694) Homepage
    OK, Saving Private Ryan may not have been ET-level commercialism, but it had the same sort of infantile simplisticity about it. Spielberg's films never challenge, but merely reinforce accepted beliefs, telling the consumers what they already think, whether it's the folksy wisdom of innocent children or the predictable evilness of a German soldier.

    Spielberg is a masterful craftsman, and an exemplary marketer, but that doesn't make him an artist.
  • by luge ( 4808 ) <<gro.yugeit> <ta> <todhsals>> on Sunday October 31, 1999 @12:38PM (#1573695) Homepage
    I see all these rantings and ravings about how Spielberg is too commercial, or how he is a lousy director, or whatever... to you I say: b******t.
    As far as commercialism, well, he is bad, but I think you are letting your disappointment with Lucas's destruction of Star Wars get to you. Spielberg is very capable of making non-commercial movies- Schindler's List? Surely, you didn't see any T-shirts for that. Amistad? Saving Private Ryan? These are not commercially oriented movies.
    Yes, they have their sappy edges- but they are also deadly serious movies about serious topics. Even his more commercial movies are still damn good- Jurassic Park and Hook, while both completely changing the original stories around to be more commercially presentable, are each works of art in their own ways- unlike 99% of modern movies, Lucas understands that special effects and big stars have to be subordinate to the story. Plot- plot! Yes, we'll see Wallace and Gromit dolls. But I think Spielberg is also the kind of guy who intuitively understands what is important, and will know that you can't tinker much with the W&G formula without destroying it. Give the man a chance.
    ~luge
    P.S. How can you not like a guy who accepted cash from the Blues Brothers to pay off the taxes for the orphanage?

  • spielberg=play mountain . . . hhhmmmm

    this must fall under the realm of "I'll drink to that"

    :P
  • Seems natural to me...

    Spielberg makes feelgood films. He's good at it, but would never have made Dead Man Walking (great film, BTW, and I don't even like Susan Sarandon or Sean Penn). Notice how the USA was the only country fighting the Germans in SPR? It would have been a bitter pill for the American film-going audience to be told that actually, it was Stalin that crushed Germany and the rest of the world just happened to get lucky...

    Spielberg is also commercially minded - not quite to the ridiculous extremes of the Disney films - but he's not daft.

    Wallace & Gromit are two of the most merchandised characters ever. Here in the UK you can get W&G *everything*.

    I don't think Spielberg is an artist. He's good at what he does, but what he does is Product.

    Park and Spielberg are a natural mix - and Park could do with some of the money that DreamWorks have.
    --
  • creator British of the figures comic Wallace and Gromit...

    Confused am I, hmmmmmm?
  • http://www.aardman.com/aardnews/

    -Michael
  • Flashing red? No, Feathers is blinking with pink eyelids. Shorn in "Close Shave" blinks in the same manner.
  • by McFarlane ( 23995 ) on Sunday October 31, 1999 @11:27AM (#1573701)
    Here's my version in English:

    ---begin translation---

    Nick Park, the British creator of the cartoon figures Wallace and Gromit is to make four films with Steven Spielberg

    London - the British creator of the cartoon figures Wallace and Gromit, Nick Park, is to make a series of four films with the US director Steven Spielberg. According to Jeffrey Katzenberg, a co-founder of Spielberg's production company Dreamworks, the two film-geeks signed a contract valued at over 250 million dollars (approx. 239 million Euro or 3.29 billion Austrian Schillings).

    In Park's films, the claymation figures Wallace and his dog Gromit, among other things, flew to the moon to find cheese, and battled the jewel thief Feathers McGraw, a fiendish penguin. Spielberg has filmed blockbusters like "E.T." and the film "Schindlers List" which was distinguished with seven Oscars. The threetime OSCAR winner Park created his company "Aardman Animation" in 1985.

    ---end translation---

    *disclaimer: "film-geeks" may not be the 100% kosher translation of the term "Film-Schaffenden"! :-)




  • Just because he's signed with Dreamworks doesn't mean that Spielberg will actually have any part in the movie.

    American Beauty was a Dreamworks production, and while Spielberg was the one who decided to do the movie, he didn't actually direct or produce anything himself.

    LL
  • I just rented "Prince Of Egypt" yesterday, and they had a preview of "Chicken Run" on the tape - it looked to be pretty funny, with Mel Gibson being the lead voice and all the characters looking very much like the ones from Wallace And Grommit (though these were all "real" chickens and not penguin chickens!).

  • I noticed this yesterday on Mr. Showbiz (while looking for End of Days, no less). It should eliminate the standard Babelfish headaches.

    http ://mrshowbiz.go.com/news/Todays_Stories/991029/aar dmanspielberg102999.html [go.com]

    Enjoy!

    My .02
    Quux26
  • by Wonko42 ( 29194 ) <ryan+slashdot@[ ]ko.com ['won' in gap]> on Sunday October 31, 1999 @11:56AM (#1573706) Homepage
    Um, I'm amazed that this isn't blindingly obvious to every intelligent person on the planet, most of all Hemos, but...just because DreamWorks will be making the movies doesn't mean Spielberg himself will have anything at all to do with them. That's like saying that Mike Eisner directs Disney movies. Sure, he's the head of the company, but he has nothing to do with most of the movies themselves. Sheesh.
  • (Wallace is round at his mate Speilbo's)

    MMmmmmmmmmm, cracking cheese, Steven.

  • Wasn't the Linux-penguin chosen because Linus was once bitten by a penguin in a zoo??
    If so, then maybe Tux can join "Feathers" McGraw for it's resocializing-program ;-)
  • by moray ( 45630 ) on Sunday October 31, 1999 @11:09AM (#1573709) Homepage
    More information, in English, at the BBC:

    http://news .bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_492000/ 492955.stm [bbc.co.uk]

  • But if they do it in claymation, what do you think Park needs DreamWorks for? Do you really believe the DreamWorks guys will leave all their computer toys at home and come play with clay (no pun intended there ;-)? I doubt that very, very much.
  • well doing the type of things the penguin did also helps in becoming a villain
  • Darn it, there's some correlations here! And it also ties into our favorite stereotypes of good and evil...

    Probably ties into that odd belief that children are innocent, (yeah, right! They're just smaller, and less dangerous) and the weird mental association between big eyes and kids. I mean, when was the last time YOU saw a 'Bambi-eyed' villain?
  • by Katydid ( 80531 ) <Hegemon22@nospAM.yahoo.com> on Sunday October 31, 1999 @12:44PM (#1573713)
    And here's some unofficial info on "Chicken Run", the movie mentioned in the BBC article:

    http://www.corona.bc.ca/films /details/chickenrun.html [corona.bc.ca]

    Looks hilarious.

  • yeah I was thinking along the lines of how they added dinosaurs in Jurassic Park, the addition of effect in Star Wars Trilogy, the computer animation additions in Prince of Egypt, etc...

    Sorta like, it'll "look" like claymation but would they use computers to fill in some "spots"?

    Anyways, I have faith it'll look great. Claymations rocks. Heck I even like Gumby.
  • by enol ( 86152 ) on Sunday October 31, 1999 @01:28PM (#1573715) Journal
    It'll be good to see another Gromit flick. The evil penguin one ranks as one of my favorite movies of all time.

    Having said that, I remember watching a quasi-documentry on how Nick Park creates his movies. And it was a PAINSTAKING process if I remember correctly, which basically involved making every single adjustments and snapping a pic of it. It must've take lots and lots of time to create one of these claymations. So I'm wondering if they are going to continue that tradition of claymation or maybe they'll switch to computers all together? (hey they did something like that with TPM). It'd be interesting to see exactly how they'll go about doing it technology wise. Anyway, this is one movie that I'm looking forward to.

  • LOL the director of the United States steven LOL!

  • by jsm2 ( 89962 ) on Monday November 01, 1999 @12:46AM (#1573719)
    Blandness and Disneyfication is not what Spielberg & Co are paying $250m for.

    Hyerk. The trouble is that, although they started out with good intentions, it all rather develops into a death by a thousand cuts. Nobody (or at least not so many people) buys something with the express intention of screwing it up. But the trouble is that you're dealing with a lot of people here who are almost by definition control freaks. Ever seen a really creative type like Spielberg trying their darndest not to add "helpful hints"? It's pitiful; they start turning puce. In the end, they crack and offer advice. Which gets taken, because it usually sounds sensible, and after all, he's the boss.

    Then the floodgates open. Once the iron rule of "no interference" has been broken, it's off to the races for the media-Borg of corporate suits who make their living by producing toxic horrible crap. And each one of them is an expert in appearing to have the authority to speak for Spielberg Himself. And so the project gets buried under a landslide of crap, and it all gets Disneyfied with a tie-in here, a cute stuffed toy there and everywhere an uplifting moral message.

    If you ever wondered why a favourite band began to suck after a while, nine times out of ten this sort of thing is the reason why.

    jsm
  • Here's a Mr. Showbiz article [go.com] on the matter, in plain ol' boring English.

    And a BBC [bbc.co.uk] link too...

    SW

  • Confirmation on the official aardman website: http://www.aardman.com/aardnews/
  • The other thing that made Feathers appear evil was the way his eyes would flash red when he was thinking... (blinking?)
    I have nothing against the penguin, btw...
  • But then again, Spielberg is a director who runs the company. Eisner can't exactly be compared to an animator running Disney... Spielberg actually DOES direct some (most?) of the films Dreamworks makes, so while it is not a 100% certainty that Spielberg will be involved with it, there's a pretty good chance that he'll be doing something or other.
  • by xealot ( 96947 ) on Sunday October 31, 1999 @11:23AM (#1573724)
    German to English, Eglish to Italian, Italian to English:

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  • by JPMH ( 100614 ) on Sunday October 31, 1999 @01:35PM (#1573725)
    Park, and Wallace and Gromit, are about creativity. Spielberg's about marketing. While Aardman and Park especially deserve Good Stuff, I sure am sorry to see them end up where the neat bits - the lighting, the details - will almost assuredly be cut or replaced by ersatz cuteness and tie-in stuffed animals on sale near you for $14.95.

    The deal is: they give Park the money, he makes them the films. It's the neat bits -- the lighting, the details, the characterisation -- that have made the films so loved, and the merchandise so successful. Blandness and Disneyfication is not what Spielberg & Co are paying $250m for.

  • by Suit ( 106935 ) on Sunday October 31, 1999 @12:02PM (#1573726)
    Quite right !

    I am afraid that much of the appeal of the series would be lost in the translation to "Hollywood" commercialism.

    Spielberg has always had a great business sense. I am not sure that I want see any such business appeal attached to some of my favourite characters.

    Just my 0.02

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