Actress Madeline Kahn Dead at 57 100
jjohn writes "CNN is reporting that actress Madeline Kahn, star of many Mel Brooks films, has died of ovarian cancer. She will be missed." Perhaps not news for all nerds, but a sad moment for anyone who enjoyed Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles, or any of the many other fine movies Ms. Kahn brightened.
Re:Cleopatra (Score:1)
Blazing Saddles (Score:3)
She will be missed.
And to the people screaming, "this doesn't belong on
Re: Madeline Kahn (Score:1)
Facial expression: 10
Body language: 10
Voice: 10
If you've never seen this movie, In My Humble But Outspoken Opinion (IMHBOO) it's MB's very best, and yes, I've seen 'em all.
I for one will miss her wondrous talent very much.
Re:This is actually the first time I've said this. (Score:1)
OK. "Young Frankenstein" is the story of a man discovering how to create life, and how to deal with the consequences of doing so. i.e. It's science fiction with an admittedly comedic bent (actually, it's hilarious). Madeline Kahn was his fiancee' in the movie. This is one of her best known roles.
Re:She'll be missed... (Score:1)
"I'm tired, tired of being admired, tired of love uninspired...let's face it boys, I'm tired!"
* mild mannered physics grad student by day *
Re:Yeah, what about all the homeless, starving etc (Score:1)
The news of MK's death was just another item on sites which didn't permit the posting of comments: CNN, the BBC,...
/. however does permit postings, *and* lots of us liked her a lot, *and* we also happen to be interested in technical things.
"...shedding a tear for the famous?" No, that's really the whole point; we're shedding a tear for a *talent*. 'Famous' I couldn't care less about (except that it was her talent which put her there). If you like a good laugh, please do watch 'Young Frankenstein'. It's worth it.
I'm in full agreement with Roblimo on this. Where's the harm, exactly? The whole story will be gone from your screen in a couple of days anyway.
Re:Cleopatra (Score:1)
Re:Good (Score:1)
Re:good riddance (Score:1)
Khan's more recent work (Score:1)
Re:And I thought this was \. not Mr frickin' Showb (Score:1)
2 kinds... (Score:1)
no, wait...
what i was trying to say is that it seems to me that there are 2 kinds of geeks: those that have a sense of humor and those that don't.
for those of you in the latter category that need to be told this, geek humor is a pretty specific sub-genre of entertainment. monty python, red dawrf, weird al, and yes mel brookes movies. so on that basis this is news for nerds (with a sense of humor).
if you are one of the geeks sans-humor then move along, theres nothing to see here.
Re:Blazing Roblimos (Score:1)
Re: Mel Brooks not dead (Score:1)
> definitely perk up if Mel Brooks died, but
> apparently this was a long time ago...
Um, Mel Brooks is alive and well(debatable
Re:Cleopatra (Score:1)
Thanks for posting this (Score:2)
Without this article, I wouldn't have known that she died. While not having a big impact on my life, this is knowledge that I am glad to have. She'll be missed because she played fun roles in movies that can't attract "big names," yet her talent made them better. She helped make Blazing Saddles and History of the World Part I, two of my favority movies.
Alex
Re:and... (Score:1)
I did a little research to see what I missed, and it looks like most of the best stuff she did was 25 years ago. Perhaps the generation gap is at work here.
For what it's worth, I loved Paper Moon. But I don't think I would have recognized her from that. And I still don't think it's enough to warrant a slashdot story, especially when it's already plastered over all the major media.
Also, our "whining" is not off-topic. I think that questioning the validity of a story, especially when there are other more suitable stories available, is always rather ON topic. (I mean, if the story *is* the topic, and it isn't a very good one considering the audience, isn't that an issue?
If Douglas Adams, Weird Al, or Eric Idle (probably in that order) died, I might be surprised if it didn't show up on slashdot. But this? Sorry I didn't watch the Cosby show, or whatever, dude.
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This belongs on Slashdot IF... (Score:1)
Madeline Kahn *ruled* in Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein. I'm sad to see she's gone.
At least (for a moment?) no one's asking if she supported Open Source so they can decide whether her passing is a good thing.
Farewell Ms. Kahn.
Re:[OT] Mars lander (Score:1)
Isn't that where they don't load a lot of drivers, and bring it up in 640x480x4bpp?
Now we're in trouble...
Sad day for Comedy + Offtopic comments (Score:1)
My favourite role was as Lili Vonn Shtupp in Blazing Saddles (also one of the best films ever made - watch it if you haven't already) - it's less well known that she was actually a very talented opera singer in spite of the grating (delibrate!) voice she used in that movie
Is it offtopic for Slashdot? Alternative maybe but it's a common fact that geeks tend to like the same sort of stuff so it stands to reason a lot of
At the end of the day, if it bothers you just ignore it.
Other Roles (Score:1)
Lets not forget a few other roles: how about the Gypsy voice in A Bug's Life? Or the fussy fiance Eunice Burns in What's Up Doc? Or hitting on Kermit in The Muppet Movie?
Re:and... (Score:1)
A) You don't run
B)
Remember, it is always easier to tell someone how they should run thier page then just to do it yourself.
--knick
Or... (Score:1)
US and THEM? I could just listen to Pink Floyd for that...
But yes, I realise that
know why something is posted, that would be ME saying that. And if other
people agree with me, well, that would be US... I'm sure that for every
article, some people agree and some people don't. In this one, though,
you might find that the numbers are a bit closer than you might like.
...and I think I've already sufficiently explained in my previous posts
examples of deaths that would go unquestioned by the
so I won't reiterate them. I don't think that this one is that obvious.
If you do, well, I guess this article was definitely for you.
Other issues you do not consider are: who is posting this, the fact that
a major news franchise already picked up the story and is bombarding
the public with it, the fact that when this story was chosen, the other
big story was *much* more nerd-relevant, (The Mars Lander, fortunately
Roblimo eventually noticed *that* one, it was CNN's top story when he was
busy posting this) the fact that this was posted under Film, which
traditionally discusses movie reviews, or *occasionally* technology in
film, but never obituaries, to my knowledge, and even that Roblimo
*said* in the beginning, "perhaps not news for all nerds"... What can
I say, the films mentioned were about 4 years before my birth, and I
haven't gotten to see them yet. I generally like Mel Brooks movies, and
I'd definitely perk up if Mel Brooks died, but apparently this was a long
time ago...
So, for many reasons, when this story was posted, a lot of people did not
find it relevant. I was also expressing that. Fair enough? I don't
usually see obituaries on slashdot, if I do, I generally say "Who died?",
and if I don't know who it is, I start to wonder, I guess it wasn't Knuth.
I know this isn't my site exclusively, and all I can say is, if it were, I
wouldn't have ever dreamed that this would make it as news. Maybe on a
different site, but not slashdot. I remember when Rob had to apologize
for even *having* Film as a category. But maybe I've just been here too
long, and need to find a different "News For Nerds" site, eh?
Maybe we can finally register
"BackSlashDot
News For Disgruntled 31337 Nerds,
Stuff That Doesn't Suck",
But I'd rather that never happen.
And that's all. If you have any further, non-rhetorical points, please
e-mail them to me, or look at my user bio to see where else you can respond.
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Re:Well (Score:1)
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WWhhaatt ddooeess dduupplleexx mmeeaann??
Re:and... (Score:1)
Re:and... (Score:2)
but I think noting Ms. Kahn's death was entirely
appropriate for this site. I know there are geeks
out there who don't think Mel Brooks' stuff is
part of "geek cvltvre" (but who mysteriously do
think that Monty Python is; well, Monty Python
is, but no more or less than Mel Brooks, IMHO),
or that noting her passing is somehow horribly
elitist, to which I'd point out: she helped
make cultural artifacts that brought people
together rather than apart. That should be enough.
Re:wombat (Score:1)
What then, is on topic? Space? Most geeks work in computers. Science fiction? Cute, but how relevant is William Gibson to anything? Linux? Most computer users use M$, and Linux is used by a minority. BSD? A smaller minority than Linux users.
For any conceivable slashdot topic, you could invent a rationale, albeit tired and stupid, as to why it doesn't fit in here. I was particularly amused by the idea of having strategic defense part of an "ask slashdot" topic, since slashdot seems to be populated by an increacing number of people who think being able to write perl makes them qualified to discuss physics and engineering.
For the record, I think Linux, Mars Probes, BSD, etc. are on topic here; the same for Neal Stephenson, Gibson, etc... but if you're going to stretch to catch the latter, then don't be too suprised to find Madeline Kahn there too. Frankenstein , by Mary Shelly, was one of the first real works of science fiction, and Young Frankenstein was a particularly noteworthy satire of a lot of the distorted film versions of that work. And she really helped make it work.
Madeline Kahn Memorial Haiku (Score:1)
Madeline Khan dead?
Could it possibly be so?
Oh, it's twu, it's twu!
Mel Brooks Classics: Young
Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles;
No more will she Shtupp.
Lawrence Person
lawrence@bga.com
Re:and... (Score:1)
Do you run slashdot? Hrm? Nope. Oops. Too bad, thanks for playing, try again sometime. Or not.
I'm tired of wankers like you who can't figure out how to read past news items which don't interest them, and feel the need to bitch about something THEY DON'T EVEN PAY FOR...
Incidentally, I didn't hear about it until I read slashdot, because I don't read the major media, and this matters to me, a nerd. It obviously mattered to Roblimo, also a nerd, and one of the slashdot staff.
It irritates me (didja pick up on that?) that you would impose your worldview on me if you could. Why do you feel that need? Why can't you just move on, and let people do or read things that interest them?
--
A host is a host from coast to coast...
Cleopatra (Score:1)
She'll be missed... (Score:1)
She was a perfect partner in comedic cooperation to Mel Brooks. A sad day indeed. The history of the world was made more humorous with her biting style.
Filmography (Score:3)
For a list of all film and notable TV appearances, click here [imdb.com].
For a brief biography, click here [imdb.com].
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and... (Score:1)
As did the Argentinian Tango legend Enrique Cadicamo [excite.com], at the age of 99. And as did about 410,000 other people I don't know.
I don't want to disrespect this death: I try to keep a constant post in my heart reserved for thoughts of the suffering, mourning and dying outside my life, my world, and my knowledge. I really think that does more than slapping up a headline here everytime a semi-celebrity dies.
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We cannot reason ourselves out of our basic irrationality. All we can do is learn the art of being irrational in a reasonable way.
Re:and... (Score:2)
I don't think "celebrity obituary" really counts. And I didn't even recognize this one. Even if you had said Gilda Radner, back in the day, I would have said "Oh yeah", and then looked at you, puzzled, saying "Why is this in Byte?"
So. Note to slashdot. I'll handle the movie stars. Just let me know if DMR, RMS, ESR, or any hacker with a three-letter name dies.
Or Natalie Portman, otherwise grits-boy would freak.
(I would be PDB if I ever got famous. But since I'm pb now, thanks to slk, I'll never be famous, but he might be! Oh, the agony!
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wombat (Score:1)
Re:She'll be missed... (Score:1)
Re:This is actually the first time I've said this. (Score:1)
ok. well i agree with you to a certain extent. the little graphic on the top-left corner of my netscape says this place is 'news for nerds, stuff that matters.' sure people passing away may not be in the news for nerds catagory, but it certainly belongs in stuff that matters.
also, i mean, i hope i'm not the only one, but slashdot is where is get 90% of my news. i would have never heard about the passing of many great actors and actresses if it wasnt on slashdot.
thats just my 2 cents, as they say.
tyler
ps. this isnt a lecture, i found your post kinda funny
Re:Cleopatra (Score:1)
"Staggggggerrrrr LEFT... Stagggggggerrrr RIGHT... Jump! Jump!"
I'm starting to feel old now. Too many people I've heard of are starting to drop off the face of the planet. Won't be long before I'll be suffering a new physical ailment every day and living on a fixed income.
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rickf@transpect.SPAM-B-GONE.net (remove the SPAM-B-GONE bit)
[OT] Mars lander (Score:2)
It looks as if their air defense took out two in a row now. BBC News Story [bbc.co.uk].
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Re: Where would you draw the line? (Score:1)
Although I work in a newspaper, I don't actually have time to read the thing much, and like some others have mentioned, I get most of my daily news from Slashdot/LWN/Freshmeat/Etc..
If you aren't interested in Madeline Kahn, skip the story, for chrissakes! Personally, I have no interest in computer games at all. None. But I don't mind downloading an extra couple-hundred bytes of game-related headlines along with all the other
Whatever flips yer lid...
-- TJ
Well (Score:3)
And like some other guy said, there's a 'stuff that matters' tag on the end of the title, and this matters to me. If you've ever seen Blazing Saddles or History of the World Part 1 then you know how incredibly funny Madeline Kahn was. Also, it's not like she was some enormous celebrity whose face floods the stupid news shows dedicated to providing celebrity gossip 24/7. She was a really good actress who was known by her own merits
Re:[OT] Mars lander (Score:2)
Re:and... (Score:2)
Consequently, I am not going to stop reading slashdot because someone posted a story about the death of some celebrity I had never heard of. However, unless you can show me otherwise, I do not believe this story should have appeared on slashdot.
--Yek401
Re:and... (Score:3)
Personally, I enjoy Slashdot's amazingly diverse readership. I love the way so many people with so many different tastes in everything from movies to news to politics to programming languages have united under the Linux and Open Source banners - and that all these people (including you) feel free to share their opinions with each other here.
- Robin
About Cancer (Score:4)
Basic cancer facts. [cancer.org]
Leading New Cancer Cases [cancer.org]
Ovarian Cancer Information [cancer.org]
Graph of Cancer Deaths in Women" [cancer.org]
Graph of Cancer Deaths in Men" [cancer.org]
"OH Madeline!" (Score:1)
What did she play? (Score:1)
LONG LIVE ALPHA [alphalinux.org]!!!
Can you PLEASE.... (Score:1)
-- Empress Nympho, "History of the World Part I"
Her delivery of that line is all you need to remember her by.
Obituaries (Score:1)
No "Blazing Saldles" sequel !! (Score:1)
I have been hoping for years.
Ditto Young Frankenstein,
Re:About Cancer (Score:1)
Re:Cleopatra (Score:1)
Or something like that....
Goodbye m'lady...
Dream
Re:Blazing Saddles (Score:2)
I desperately, madly love this sentence. I wish I were in moderator mode at the moment, so I could jack this up.
This may well have to og in my signature someday-- is that O.K., as long as I give you credit? (If I don't hear from you here, I'll send e-mail.)
Three cheers for verbal dexterity. "The formation of words that fit / --that's what I usually disturb you with. / Check this deliberate attack on pointless rap shit." --The Roots.
Vovida, OS VoIP
Beer recipe: free! #Source
Cold pints: $2 #Product
SNL, MK, and sex education... (Score:1)
FU AC (Score:1)
Trixie Delight (Score:1)
Yeah, what about all the homeless, starving etc. (Score:1)
I'm sure for her family / fans this person meant a lot but Slashdot coverage seems excessive if not inappropriate.
Re:and... (Score:1)
Madeleine Kahn, to my mind, was a "nerd actress" in that she usually played quirky people with above average intelligence, who saw things from an unusual angle. From what I saw of her "real self" on talk shows etc. she seemed to be the same in real life.
I expect that Madeleine Kahn will have been a favorite of J. Random Hacker [tuxedo.org] as a recognized kindred spirit.
As such, her untimely passing is News for Nerds.
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The Need To Grieve vs.The Need To Whine (Score:1)
one who has made an unforgettable mark in our
lives die,a part of us goes with it.We are left
with the laughs we got...none to follow.Madeline
had Slack,praise Bob,and she shared it with us.
Life is about more than computers,geeks,tweaks
and memory leaks.I like others,live on Slashdot
in a community sense,so i like an occasional look
into the big picture.It helps me triangulate a
better perspective.
It would seem that if you didnt know,know of or
appreciate Madeline due to your 'scrip for
lithium;that this article is none of your damn
business pink boy.Read elsewhere,you're obviously
part of the conspiracy so youd be just as happy
over at www.microsoft.com.No-one made you hit this
link.You just hit it like a lab monkey pushing the bar to get his 'nads tingled.
The need to grieve is universal,the need to whine
is the mark of inbreeding humorless pinks for
several generations.
She's in a better place now,PRAISE BOB
*www.subgenius.com for the only true open source religion*
Re:Cleopatra (Score:1)
General:"What lure must I use to bait your love?"
Nympho:"But the servant waits, while the master baits."
Re:Just another dead American .. (Score:1)
My So-Called Community (Score:1)
We aren't all fascinated by the same topics, nor are we all the same kind of nerd-- Madeline Kahn, IMO, is far more of a nerd topic than Star Wars which matters to me not at all.
The reason I like Slashdot is the idea I get that the editors are real people with real people's interests that don't always intersect with mine. What was that stoopid post with "not fitting our geek agenda" all about?
Sheesh.
Boojum_UC
Re:Simple solution (Score:1)
2. Go to the prefs page
3. Turn off all the topics you don't want to read about
Re:You mean Lili Von Shtupp (Score:1)
Re:What did she play? (Score:1)
You can find out more about her at the Internet Movie Database [imdb.com].
A great loss (Score:1)
Few people seem to be commenting on her gorgeous singing voice. I always enjoyed her singing ability. One instance that comes to mind was when she participated in a Broadway revival of the musical Company, singing the song Getting Married Today. For those of you who don't know this song, it involves being able to sing well at about 90 mph. She pulled it off, and she produced one of my favorite versions of that song.
Clue! (Score:1)
Whiners and complainers, the whole lot of them. (Score:2)
Now, about the "why is this here" posts:
On one hand, it gratifies me as someone of Latin American descent that so many of these posters are supporting the fragile economy of the Andes by their purchase and consumption of large quantities of crack cocaine. It gratifies me to see the support given to the hardworking narcotraffickers of Colombia.
That said, *look at the icon, people..* It's a clapboard! That means that it's on the MOVIE (and media) topic! Like Pi and Star Wars and The Truman Show! An actor whose work is popular among geeks has died, and we celebrate her work.
Is geek cinema only science fiction? (And fantasy?) Feh. I like a lot of science fiction cinema, but that's hardly enough. 1. Most science fiction cinema isn't interesting. 2. Most intellectually engaging cinema isn't science fiction. I share an above poster's view that I think History of the World is much more geekworthy than Episode 1 was.
And here's the BIG rub - a notice about an actor's passing, even IF it weren't NFN-STM, is a LOT less invasive to attention than complaints about the same in the following discussion. You ACTUALLY posted on an obituary and BOTHERED to comment on how it didn't belong here.
WOW. The peace-loving coca growers of the Andes owe you a huge debt.
Re:[OT] Mars lander (Score:2)
- Robin
Re:[OT] Mars lander (Score:1)
Ok, you've got a point there. It just seemed odd.
Re:and... (Score:1)
And for you people complaining about the off-topicness of this article, why not just SKIP IT instead of filling it with MORE off-topic whining? Some of us actually do care about this kind of stuff, and I'm personally glad that Roblimo took the time to put it up.
Re:She'll be missed... (Score:2)
Interested in XFMail? New XFMail home page [slappy.org].
Re:[OT] Mars lander (Score:1)
6:35p - 8:05p 12/4, Window to send commands to lander.
8:30p - 10:45p 12/4, Transmission if lander entered safe mode just after touchdown.
8:50p - 10:50p 12/4, Transmission if lander is executing normal activities.
10:50a - 11:00a 12/5, Relay transmission through Mars Global Surveyor.
If all of these fail, we can be sure that the JPL will be spending most of the next month trying to raise the lander before writing it off as a loss.
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Madeline Kahn (Score:1)