LinuxOne Plans Merger, But Shows Few Signs Of Life 47
An unnamed correspondent points to this NewsForge article by the esteemed Grant Gross about the ongoing saga of LinuxOne, the long-beleaguered and much-abused phantom Linux vendor. Anyone else have light to shed on this story? You may also be interested in reading earlier stories about LinuxOne.
No need to yell, Aunties not deaf. (Score:1)
I mean are you saying "Fuckwad to you all !!! !!" or "Good to you all !!! !!" or "Lemon Lollipops to you all !!! !!" or what?
Eh sonny?
-- Eat your greens or I'll hit you!
LinuxOne needs to improve their image... (Score:5)
It kind of blows my mind that you can for all intents and purposes publically plan fraud on a massive scale and keep the ball rolling with a shell company with no products or revenues for as long as they have without winding up in jail. It's like those pyramid schemes spams you get which always claim to be legal. I assume they consider legal "Not getting caught." So why hasn't this guy been caught?
Re:Check this out (Score:1)
04:55 - LinuxOne: "Uhhhh, a Mouse pedo...pedio meeta, which measures your desktop mileage, how much heh, you've been moving around."
They're lucky they don't live in Britain. Why angry mobs would be outside stoning the paedo's house.
-- Eat your greens or I'll hit you!
International Pacbell DSL? (Score:3)
I did a quick traceroute to france.linuxone.net (to see if I could guess where their server was, geographically).
It started with this:
bash-2.03$ traceroute france.linuxone.nettraceroute to ram.linuxopen.com (216.101.248.93)
("ram.linuxopen.com?" The whois entry for this says it's registered to LinuxOne, inc. - are they planning to change their name to confuse people?) It [the traceroute] ended with this:
12 core4-g2-0.snfc21.pbi.net (209.232.130.77) 39.969 ms 38.057 ms 37.433 ms
13 rback3-fe2-0.snfc21.pbi.net (206.171.134.134) 41.637 ms 49.016 ms 50.158 ms
14 * adsl-216-101-248-93.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (216.101.248.93) 2559.41 ms 2972.05 ms
Is "snfc21" in San Francisco?
(Or does pacbell.net have adsl available somehwere in France?)
I was also under the vague impression (I could be wrong about this) that pacbell's Terms of Service for their adsl lines involved not running servers...Is LinuxOne busted? (That'd be pretty funny, after the hassle they gave the reporter about his Yahoo account Terms of Service...)
Well, I thought it was kind of funny, anyway...
A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for Evil.
Re:LinuxOne needs to improve their image... (Score:1)
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Re:Check this out (Score:1)
Oooh, they're looking for people (Score:1)
Yah, that'll work.
tc>
Re:Phantom companies, etc. (Score:1)
But on topic - they do have a "d/l able" version of their distro that has been reviewed: A badly configured Redhat (alternate language installs still mention Redhat). It's not alleged, it's not vaporware, it's just arse.
-- Eat your greens or I'll hit you!
Unnamed Correspondent? (Score:1)
Need the traffic guys?
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i really love this company (Score:2)
from their site [linuxone.net]:
list of device drivers supported by LinuxOne OS
[snip]
Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL disk/cdrom/tape/floppy support
Old hard disk (MFM/RLL/IDE) driver
Include IDE/ATA-2 disk support
Include IDE/ATAPI cdrom support
Include IDE/ATAPI tape support
Include IDE/ATAPI floppy support
bwahhahahah.
i can just see it now.
root:/usr/src/linux# echo `yes|make config` >
and (one of) the really funny thing(s) is that they must've used something like kernel version 2.2.5 b/c it's missing some stuff that's been in 2.2 for a *long* time...
I think what this company is actually trying to merge with is annonymity..
Me too. (Score:1)
Me too. However, my server is down right now, so you can just download my distro from RedHat instead.
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Re:International Pacbell DSL? (Score:1)
It's OK to run servers if you pay for one of the static IP options (like I do).
You're WAY off... (Score:1)
No way, man -- that's far to harsh against Hong Kong!
Re:LinuxOne needs to improve their image... (Score:2)
Re:International Pacbell DSL? (Score:1)
1 adsl-xx-xx-xx-xx.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (xx.xx.xx.xx) 28.458 ms 24.849 ms 32.341 ms
Uh-huh. Your first hop, presumably your router, has a near-30ms latency?
Riiiiiiight.
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Re:International (Score:1)
Interesting; china.linuxone.net [linuxone.net] has a LinuxOne-modifed Apache install message similiar to the one found on RedHat. The HTTP headers, however (see here [netcraft.com] or here [netcraft.com]) report RH, presumably because LinuxOne forgot to change them... ;o)
It does exist. (Score:2)
They didnt do much, though - the distribution is an odd mix between packages from old Red Hat Linux and Mandrake releases.
The only code they apparently wrote themselves is a (proprietary) KDE 1.x based frontend to formatting floppy disks, looking almost exactly like KDE 2.0's kfloppy (I wonder if they bought a Qt license from Trolltech?).
Also, they're not very familiar with the way rpm works - they've occasionally changed the filenames of their RPMs to indicate a different version/release, but rpm -qpi still shows the real one.
Re:Unnamed Correspondent? (Score:1)
No, an anonymous and cowardly reader really did submit this
As another reader points out, if we wanted to assign it to a fake account we *could* have, but that's not how it works. If you think about it, it's not that strange that NewsForge and Slashdot have a lot of readers in common -- if they didn't something would be terribly wrong with their management
(I thought the story was hilarious, though, and would happily have posted it as coming from *me* if I had been the first one to spot it on NewsForge
Cheers,
timothy
Re:An entertaining story (Score:1)
*ahem* It certainly was not for lack of trying! The quality of the investigation can be measured by the fact that the author attempted to cover every base, which, by my measure, he did very well. Sure, his leads came up dry, but it looks like the few people involved with LinuxOne have disappeared. I personally found it to be a very good article that at least tried to uncover the truth.
Re:An entertaining story (Score:1)
His job was to find them and get the real story. He failed. That failure may have been justified but it does mean that this was not excelent investigative journalism.
He made a good effort. Great. Next time he should keep trying until he actually gets the story.
-sam
Idiots. (Score:3)
Anyone who knows anything about Linux immediately associates "LinuxOne" with "Sleazy fly-by-night scam from Hong Kong".
You'd have to be nuts to merge with them and acquire the stench of scandal. The people that started this to begin with are stupid to think that anyone would fall for it after the Linux tulip bulb mania.
I never thought we would hear from them again. Does the LinuxOne distro even exist? If it does, it is anything more than RedHat with no changes other than the name? Does anybody run it?
Another chapter in the LinuxOne book? (Score:1)
I am not suprized that the Linux world has attracted the "alleged shady characters" that LinuxOne appears to posses, but it looks to the rest of us that we all will be standing on our desks pointing and yelling "I told you so!" to those that were blind enough to ever believe that LinuxOne was a real company. (real as in going to produce something tangeable and not fictional)...
Has ANYONE ever seen their "product"? I dont mean a scripted demo on their hardware that you cant touch. Gimmie a copy on CD, Or download. I'm bettin that such a creature never existed.
International (Score:1)
Their France.linuxone.net, Taiwan.linuxone.net and China.linuxone.net web site is the default Apache web page. In fact, both servers are the same machine. I'm surprised those servers run on a LinuxOne distribution.
The other are links to a guy in Latvia. Hmmm... Me too I'll put a lot of flags on my web page to make professional!
Re:Another linux company dies off. Film @ 11 (Score:2)
What... Huh? (Score:1)
I was going to post a deeply thought out response to a story today, but I keep falling asleep reading them and forgetting what I was going to say.
"Does anyone at your work tell you that you have a case of the mondays?" [slashdot.org]
"No... No, Man. I beleive someone would get their ass kicked saying something like that."
Re:Check this out (Score:4)
My favourite part (the caller asked about the set of applications that come with LinuxOne):
04:18 - LinuxOne: "Ummmm...There's a terminal emulator, a RPM manager called KPackage."
04:25 - Accipiter: "What is RPM?"
04:26 - LinuxOne: "RPM is uh, the program language that you program uh, within Linux."
04:33 - Accipiter: "Oh, so you can actually make programs with RPM?"
04:35 - LinuxOne: "Yes, it's a C++ programming, uh, programming tool."
04:38 - Accipiter: "Oh! Very cool..."
04:40 - LinuxOne: "Uhhmmm... A --"
04:42 - Accipiter: "Does that include a compiler so if I want to...if I write my - if I write my program in RPM, I can compile it with RPM too?"
04:49 - LinuxOne: "Yes."
04:49 - Accipiter: "Oh, Great!"
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Check this out (Score:5)
Linuxone has hopefully trained their phone staff since then...
(there used to be an MP3 of the phone call somewhere...)
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Re:Check this out (Score:1)
I thought the salesperson did fine.
*You* try and politely handle the other end of a phone when you're dealing with what is obviously a prank call.
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Anyone remember a report about Linux and VARs... (Score:1)
Wondering: Was that really THE LinuxOne?
If so -- What happened to that survey?
A lot of people found it incredible that LinuxOne could have ANY customers, let alone satisfied customers.
Wish I could say that I was skeptical enough about that, but I wasn't.
The L1 story is just plain strange.
Re:Repeat article (Score:1)
Great Reporting (Score:2)
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Re:An entertaining story (Score:1)
That piece of run-on poorly-edited crap was most certainly not "very fine" investigative reporting.
-sam
Re:Another chapter in the LinuxOne book? (Score:2)
The only good thing about LinuxOne is their logo, and even that isn't that great.
Re:first at something (Score:1)
-- Eat your greens or I'll hit you!
The two belong together! (Score:1)
This is a merger made in hell! (The lawyers will be paid I'm sure.)
It seems fitting that the two companies obviously haven't done enough research to make a company, much less a businees work. They deserve all the bad press they can't afford.
Better bad press than no press!
Incredibly intelligent infobot (Score:2)
I know *I'd* buy from LinuxOne, based on their ability to create such a phenomenal bot alone!
-drin
Hey, I know them! (Score:2)
Low Risk (Score:1)
If LinuxOne ever sold a product or made a dime, I would have a heart attack and die of shock. But fortunately: LinuxOne is at a low risk for financial stress So I feel safer already.
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Re:Why, why, why? (Score:2)
> kind of exposure? The only place I want to see the name "LinuxOne" is in the FuckedCompany Hall of Fame.
Well, I'd say all of those jokers probably agree with you 110%. Right now, the last thing anyone connected with LinuxOne wants is for someone to remember that stupid company: each of one of their corporate officers are trying hard to find a new job in a softening high-tech economy in order to pay the rent & buy groceries.
It's one thing to work for a company like Microsoft & not understand what Free Source Software is about (``Okay, I screwed up -- but I know where my next paycheck is coming from"), & another to try to make money off of Free Source Software, but not know what it's about (``Okay, I screwed up -- but lots of technically savvy people remember I made a fool of myself, won't hire me, & I don't know where my next paycheck is coming from.")
Geoff
Re:An entertaining story (Score:1)
"Homo sum: humani nil a me alienum puto"
(I am a man: nothing human is alien to me)
I was just reading the article... (Score:1)
"...LinuxOne launched its first product, the LinuxOne OS, which easily facilitates the migration of many Linux application programs from Microsoft Windows to Linux systems
is it just me or does this make _no_ sense.
something smells fishy here.
Why, why, why? (Score:3)
Still no products that anyone uses.
Still no IPO.
Still no business plan.
Still no legitimacy.
This is an interesting article and all about a true fly-by-night company without a clue, but I'd forgotten about LinuxOne, and realized how happy I was about that fact when I saw the name "LinuxOne" on the front page. Please, why give these jokers any kind of exposure? The only place I want to see the name "LinuxOne" is in the FuckedCompany Hall of Fame.
I'd say the "AI Info Bot"'s reply to Gross' first e-mail says enough about how much attention this company really wants, or deserves.
when i go to china.linuxone.net i get: (Score:2)
Expectable i guess.
An entertaining story (Score:4)
This ``Micrometix'' company which is supposedly planning a merger with LinuxOne seems rather shady itself, eh?
Phantom companies, etc. (Score:1)
Re:Check this out (Score:2)
*You* try and politely handle the other end of a phone when you're dealing with what is obviously a prank call.
A prank call for a crank product. Somehow, I don't see the problem here...
Re:Idiots. (Score:1)
-B