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George Lucas May Be Completely Evil 1036

gabec writes "Sci-fi Wire is reporting a couple rumors about the changes being made to the original Star Wars trilogy for its next release. That being that Natalie Portman may be being inserted into Episode VI: Return of the Jedi and that universally reviled Jar Jar Binks may be being inserted into Episode IV: A New Hope. May The Force forbid." Mind you this is reported as rumor, but it's so unsurprisingly possible...
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George Lucas May Be Completely Evil

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  • Surprise, Surprise (Score:2, Interesting)

    by GenericJoe ( 16255 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @02:40PM (#3603480) Homepage
    Anyone who is surprised that Lucas is going to re-do the first trilogy, releasing it after episode III probably shouldn't be using a computer to surf the web.

    It'll make a ton of money, and maybe (just maybe) he'll fix his continuity problems.

    GenericJoe
  • No need for hysteria (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ShawnDoc ( 572959 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @02:41PM (#3603490) Homepage
    The main rumor is that Portman will film a "flashback" scene to be inserted into ROTJ when Luke asks Leia if she remembers her mother. (Implying that Leia was born a few years before Luke)

    Personally, I like the idea of this. It helps tie all 6 movies together and makes them seem like the series they are supposed to be. I mean, its not like he's totally changing the movie like he did with ANH and the Greedo scene.

  • by PhysicsGenius ( 565228 ) <physics_seeker@NOSpaM.yahoo.com> on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @02:44PM (#3603534)
    CGI and animation technology have come a long way since 1976, when Star Wars was first released. Sure, they are epic tales of love and death--but they need a little spice. I think it's a good idea to go back and touch them up in the slow spots. For instance, Chewbacka wasn't a necessary plot element and wasn't funny, either. Why not digitally replace him with the kid-pleasing Jar Jar?
  • by damiangerous ( 218679 ) <1ndt7174ekq80001@sneakemail.com> on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @02:55PM (#3603658)
    Just rent the tapes....

    You know, I'd buy them, if only I could. But you know what? I can't. I can buy the new versions of 4,5 and 6, but not the original versions. Lucas won't sell the originals anymore. So, no money from me, George.

  • by cant_get_a_good_nick ( 172131 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @02:55PM (#3603664)
    I thought it was great the way Jabba was added to A New Hope


    For story continuity reasons, maybe. But the way they physically did it was awfully clunky. They had shot a scene of Han walking around a big fat guy wearing a weird costume. Not "Jabba" enough I guess. So later when they CG add Jabba, the body sizes are off. So Han has to walk on Jabba's tail to walk around him. Bad, clunky. OK, this guy wants to kill me, let me walk on him, but then again the CG Jabba doesn't have a reaction at all anyway to this guy walking on him, so what the hell. Worse, they have to CG elevate Han, so all of a sudden, he just pops up maybe 2 feet, then pops down, no natural ovement at all. Very clunky.


    I also remember, maybe in a comic, that Luke and Leia kissed. Kinda icky since they're brother and sister. Just shows that Lucas never really thought the whole thing out, kinda shooting from the hip. That's not a bad thing, just don't confuse him with a story visionary.

  • Re:But why??? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by crimoid ( 27373 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @02:58PM (#3603699)
    I've been a Star Wars fan from day 1. Sure I'm annoyed with Jar Jar, and sure there are moments in EVERY episode that are corny, but I love the story - every version of it.

    Personally I would LOVE for Lucas to tinker with ANY episode that he wants to. Barring a complete rewrite of the story I'll be chomping at the bit to see what layers of the story can be added.

    If he blows it and introduces something new and corny I'll just watch my older VHS copy of the episode, no harm done. If he pulls a rabbit out of the hat and adds more depth, or better effects, or ties the story together better I'll eat it up.

    Star Wars isn't sacred and written in stone. It's just a story, one of the most epic stories ever told. Obviously as time goes on the story will grow (fan fiction, Lucas himself) and evolve (remastering, etc.). Given the advances in technology I'd love to see all of the episodes stiched together seamlessly. How many of us wouldn't want to fiddle with the originals if we were in Lucas' position?
  • Who gives a damn? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jcoleman ( 139158 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @02:58PM (#3603705)
    The movies are the sole intellectual property of GEORGE LUCAS. They do not belong to you. They do not belong to the fans. They do not belong to the merchandisers. They belong to LucasFilm, which in turn belongs to George Lucas.

    These six movies are a saga. They tell a long, complex story with lots of twists and turns. When Lucas comes up with what he thinks is a good idea, he puts it in the mix. If he has to change a couple of things around to fit it in, he does. Big deal. It's not like he's going to change his mind on Darth Vader being Luke's father.

    He can do whatever he wants with his movies, and personally I think he's doing a fantastic job. All six movies will fit together as a cohesive whole when it's all said and done.

    This ain't Shakespeare, folks. Even Tolkien went back and corrected some continuity problems after LotR was published. So get over it.
  • by ralico ( 446325 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @02:58PM (#3603706) Homepage Journal
    Well.... it would be nice to have the original content of IV-VI on a legal DVD (as opposed to the bootlegs [dvdfile.com] )

    I, for one, curl my lip every time I see Greedo make that first shot [jax-inter.net]. What was he trying to do?

  • Comment removed (Score:2, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @03:26PM (#3603958)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by Dephex Twin ( 416238 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @03:30PM (#3603988) Homepage
    I don't know if George Lucas would want to do this, but what if the DVD had all three versions (or at least the original and the newest with both sets of new stuff)? That way, our beloved original is not lost, but there's some fun added stuff.

    Would there be any harm in doing this?

    mark
  • by skirch ( 126930 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @03:35PM (#3604035) Homepage
    I have been wondering lately if the original, unmodified versions of the sequels will be released on DVD. After reading reports like this one, it makes me very doubtful, and it makes me more disappointed in Lucas. There's something sacred about Star Wars, and he's been ruining it for a lot of us for the last 10 years. He needs to get over it and just move on with his life. Star Wars is what it is, and no matter how many fart jokes or computer-generated Jabbas you work into the old trilogy, it's still the same story. The constant tweaking to get "what he wanted to do originally but lacked the technology" (and in this case, the actress) doesn't add anything. The new stuff is just distracting. It upsets my stomach and makes me cringe.

    My brother was really into collecting movies before the advent of DVD, and somewhere along the line he grabbed laserdisc copies of The Star Wars trilogy. It's an awesome set, not the special edition. Not upgraded. If the non-special-edition movies aren't released on DVD, I'm really tempted to make a DVD copy of this set for my own use.

    Would it be legal since I already own the trilogy on VHS? Would it be legal for me to make a copy for a friend that owns the trilogy on VHS?

  • by rlangis ( 534366 ) <rlangis@@@geekfest...net> on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @03:40PM (#3604079) Homepage Journal
    He already DID.

    Anyone else remember the scene in the Naboo cruiser where Jar-Jar popped the head off of the red droid? Said droid then went crazy around the droid bay while R2 and the others went up to fix the shield generators?

    It was in the movie, but NOT in the VHS nor DVD editions.
  • by AshleyB ( 18162 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @03:47PM (#3604199)
    Since when did it become 'ego' for a person to make a film the way he wants to make it?

    But just so I understand, if the MPAA threatens an 'NC-17' rating for a film, that is covert censorship resulting in a movie being changed from the director's vision...but because YOU don't like something the director should cave in to whatever you want??

    You know, it WAS a bummer that the Titanic sank and all those people died...kinda killed the romance; how about a re-write Mr. Cameron?
  • by Dirtside ( 91468 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @04:14PM (#3604542) Journal
    Back in 1977, right after Star Wars became a huge hit, Lucas had said that he did indeed have the rest of the story more or less sketched out, and that he thought it would take 9 movies to do it. Heck, originally he wanted to put the entire Anakin cycle in ONE movie, but it was way too long. He wasn't expecting Star Wars to succeed, he just wanted to make a fun movie. Then it hit it big and he said, "Hmm..." Anyway, originally he thought it would take 9 movies, but a short while later he realized that he didn't have enough story for 9 -- 6 movies would do. Ever since then is the oft-repeated myth that there's going to be 3 more movies after Episode III finishes. If there are, it's not going to be part of the Anakin cycle (well, naturally, since Anakin dies in ROTJ).

    I don't discount the possibility that there could be more Star Wars movies after Episode III, but I personally don't think Lucas will want to put out the effort. Remember, he's going to be 61 years old when Episode 3 comes out, and productions of this magnitude take a huge amount of effort. I suppose he could act in more of a supervisory role and let someone else handle more of the day-to-day duties, but, the question of Lucas' talent aside, would such movies FEEL like "Star Wars"? Hard to see, the future is. Not to mention the fact that the story arc would be more or less unrelated to Eps. 1-6, and we probably wouldn't have the same emotional attachments we've formed with the characters we already know.

    It has occurred to me that an "interim" movie would be possible, something that takes place between episodes 3 and 4 (call it "Star Wars: Rise of the Empire" with no "Episode N" part) that bridges the 20-year gap... maybe giving some details of the Empire's atrocities, Luke and Leia's upbringings, maybe Han's background, etc. Just a thought of my own.
  • Re:But why??? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Krelnik ( 69751 ) <timfarley@minYEATSdspring.com minus poet> on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @04:37PM (#3604753) Homepage Journal
    > ...this kind of uninformed sillyness.

    > ...He directs well....There are, however, only a handful of
    > people who can make a movie as physically engaging
    > as episodes IV, V and II.

    How about practicing what you preach? Lucas did not direct V, Irvin Kershner did.

  • If you are careful about the DVD mastering, you can do both, actually. Check out the Terminator 2 [imdb.com]: Ultimate Edition DVD sometime.

    It's a two disk set (or two sided disk, depending on when you bought it). On the first side/disk are three different edits of the film: the original edit, the "special edition" they did for cable a few years back, and an extended edition (hidden behind an easter egg) that includes a few more scenes that aren't even in the special edition. What's great about it is everyone gets what they want: Cameron [imdb.com] can deliver the recut version he likes best, and fans can see the other two versions as well. (Cameron's preference apparently is the middle version, which is why the longest one is hidden behind an easter egg).

    How do they jam three separate edits of a 152 minute movie on one DVD? They don't. They take advantage of the seamless branching functionality that has been in the DVD format all along, and re-use the sections of the flick that are unchanged from one edit to the other.

    Now, the question is: is Lucas is smart enough to do this?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @06:58PM (#3605777)
    I suppose their memories get wiped too? Apparently, this is the case, because they don't remember C-3PO and R2D2 from Anakin's Episode II visit when the Jawas sell the droids back to them in Episode IV. George sucks at plot consistency...
  • by Phartx2 ( 79490 ) on Wednesday May 29, 2002 @07:05PM (#3605824)
    Today I declare that Natalie Portman should be in every movie produced from this day forward!

    (the masses rejoice)

    -Jim

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