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New Hampshire to Follow Maine's Lead 236

Timex writes "According to an article from the Portland [Maine] Press Herald, some seventh-graders in New Hampshire will be issued laptops in January. 19 school districts have been invited to submit proposals, and up to five of them will be chosen to lead the way in New Hampshire. Cabletron Systems co-founder and NH Governor Craig Benson is getting funding for the four-year project from corporate donations. So far, he's gathered about half of the estimated $1.2 million estimated cost."
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New Hampshire to Follow Maine's Lead

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  • It just works... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 06, 2003 @01:01PM (#6887860)
    I am a teacher in Maine and I have to say that the program in Maine works. It received some criticism early on but now the program is in full force and it works. You can trash Apple as much as like but the bottom line is this. Imagine training the number of teachers necessary and then handing out laptops to very enterprising middle schoolers. Also imagine the headaches that could arise when all these middle schoolers get their computers infested with Windows worms and viruses and then expecting the teachers to fix the problems. It is a disaster in the making. The bottom line with using Apple laptops is that they are simple to use and maintain with a big emphasis on maintain. You can quote all those crappy TOC studies you want about Windows vs Apple but again, the burden on day-to-day maintenance is on the teachers themselves! I hope this is clear to all the Windows pundits. For what the state of Maine needed these computers, Apple simply worked better. I wish my neighbors in NH the best of luck in setting up their program. I hope they will take what we have learned thus far in Maine and get their program off to a good start.
  • by NiKnight3 ( 532580 ) on Saturday September 06, 2003 @01:14PM (#6887925) Homepage
    I'm not sure where you are in the state, but please don't generalize and say that the laptop program isn't working throughout the state.

    I live near Bangor, Maine, and I did a college photojournalism project at my middle school to see how the laptops were working. Not only did the students seem more engaged in their learning, but they used them for almost everything: they wrote journal entries, found clipart for multimedia presentations, and then researched information for a speech. And that was all during one class. Students in social studies the next period spent time researching current headlines on msnbc.com and informed the teacher of the latest development of the war in Iraq (I visited this spring). That's right, they were telling her the latest news. What better way to engage students in education than by letting them be the teachers? Every study I've ever seen has said that two-way learning is much more effective than reading from a textbook or listening to lecture.

    While some districts in the state may be less excited about the program, its important to note that the laptop program in Maine is still supported and still working. While expensive, this program introduces students to technology at a fairly early age. It's very possible that Maine students will be much more tech-savvy once they leave their middle and high schools.

  • by JaredOfEuropa ( 526365 ) on Saturday September 06, 2003 @01:24PM (#6887981) Journal
    What the poster was trying to point out is that simply throwing a bunch of laptops at schools isn't enough... Schools and teachers need to support the use of these things as well, and teach students how to use them.

    As he pointed out, the schools in his area were hardly making good use of the machines. In your example, I bet that the distribution of laptops in Maine was accompanied by an education programme to teach how to use the laptops for school assignments.
  • by Dark Lord Seth ( 584963 ) on Saturday September 06, 2003 @01:25PM (#6887990) Journal

    IAACGWAL ( I am a college guy with a laptop ) and I can honestly say those things are nearly useless during class. They require boot time, which is wasted time. They also require juice considering they don't run on air and a random day at college lasts 8 hours for me. I haven't heard of ANY laptop with an 8 hours battery life and the idea of 30 people rushing for the nearest electrical outlet every 2 hours is plain silly. Also, laptops aren't very versatile for writing down stuff in a hurry. The programs given are very limited and using them can feel very unnatural at times. That whole issue might be solved by those tablet PCs with the pen thingy, which is far more suitable for jotting down notes and what not.

    For college, nothing rocks more then a good pen and a good notepad with pre-perforated and lined paper. Though laptops would still rock, especially with WLANs. UT2k3 during dutch classes, anyone?

  • Re:$1.2 million ... (Score:3, Informative)

    by aardvarkjoe ( 156801 ) on Saturday September 06, 2003 @01:26PM (#6887995)
    The school district I went to had computers all over the place. The labs were upgraded every couple years to state-of-the-art machines, most of which went unused.

    And yet, we still had to deal with textbooks that were falling apart at the seams because they had been in use since the 70's.

    It's nowhere near a sure thing that they already have decent books. In fact, I would be willing to bet that a lot of them don't.
  • populations (Score:3, Informative)

    by digitalsushi ( 137809 ) * <slashdot@digitalsushi.com> on Saturday September 06, 2003 @01:40PM (#6888078) Journal
    The 19 school districts are: Mascenic Regional; Allenstown (4800); Colebrook (2600); Franklin (8400); Monadnock Regional (23000); Winnisquam Regional; Farmington (6000); Mascoma Valley Regional (12000); Somersworth (11600); Haverhill Cooperative (4100)(Warren, Orford, Haverhill, Bath); Wilton-Lyndeborough (3300); Lisbon (1700); Stratford (900); Milton (3700); Wakefield (3200); Andover (1900); Hillsboro-Deering (4600+1900); Weare (6800); and Thornton (1600).

    hi, nh kid living in an actual city here... just like to point out those are like... really small. did it even say how many laptops they're getting? 1.2 million over 800 bucks a laptop is 1500 laptops. the above list adds up to just about 100k people, so how many of those are 7th graders? 1.5 percent?
  • by flamingantichimp ( 689011 ) on Saturday September 06, 2003 @04:56PM (#6889243)
    In short, your post simply confirms the original premise: the laptops are useless toys that do nothing education-wise. Sure, they might slightly improve students' understanding of computers. However, learning how to use Word and Powerpoint is something that can be done in just a few hours, and doesn't require students to have laptops.

    Flame bait and ignorant.

    Teachers [wired.com] like this one [middleweb.com] , and studies [stateline.org]and newspapers [macobserver.com] back up my claim.

    Do you work better on a good day or a bad day? Most work better when happy. I know this sounds amazing, but learning AND having fun is possible. Don't be a troll and don't try to deny the results. Attendance is up, kids are having fun, teachers are happy, test scores are good, etc. What more do you want?
  • by saitoh ( 589746 ) on Saturday September 06, 2003 @06:22PM (#6889679) Homepage
    They do for the most part.

    I work with the education program at my college and in the local school districts and their admins. The ibooks for the Maine program are locked down rather well, I'm still trying to tinker with one to get it to use something *other* then 802.11b. The only settings you can alter (other then the top row of Personal stuff) is keyboard, mouse, sound, and the universal access. Nothing else is even accessable. I can run terminal, but I'm also using a teachers image of OSX and not the student one. Everything was setup on a single unit by the Apple Maine rep and then imaged onto other machines. Kinda like nuetering a dog, but in this case, I can understand why. From there, training courses were taught (now how much they pay attention is a different issue) for all those who were interested and invitations were sent out for additional training to those involved. There isnt much excuse I can see not to understand how to use these machines.

    I'll preface my remarks by saying that I was 4 years ahead of the 7th graders when it was implimented, and now go to college and know those in the northeastern part of the state that deal with this. Not a definitive answer, but its what I've seen personally.
  • by Xaer0cool ( 700219 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @04:44AM (#6891920)
    ool. I went to a private school in australia that introduced laptops to the classroom in 1995 (fifth grade for me)... heres what I can say. It was extremely useful for work, and helped a lot with that. It got me interested in programming (BASIC, logowriter, html (way back in 95 or 96 I made my first web page...)) MORE importantly, it provided a distraction - games, games, and, uh, games. Why is this more important? first off, i had to find a way to connect to the network without using my proper ID and such so that when we swapped games (via email, heh), i wouldn't get in trouble. This gave me at least a working understanding of a lot of under the hood things, and configuring everything just right for the games did the rest. then the time factor kicks in - i used a computer so much it replaced every thing else. I prefer to write math formulas, take notes, communicate - all with my pc. Now in college, (UC BERKELEY! GO BEARS) i have a reputation in my building as being the 'computer guy' her - 'my internet doesn't work' me - hmm, wtf, everything looks ok, wait a sec, why does your ehternet card wobble around... open case... ah, see, its good to have it connect to the motherboard... or 'why do popups keep coming on every page' followed by a download of zonealarm, hijack this, adaware... so, it provides easy money (or better yet 'favors', ;) and continues to help in my education - so, from my experience, laptops in school = l337 h4X0r c00l! boXx3n 4 4||! (uh, did i just unmake my point wit that last part?)

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