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Stargate SG-1 & Atlantis Renewed 357

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the maybe-they'll-be-better-this-year dept.
scifi451 writes "Both Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis have been renewed for another season, 9th and 2nd respectively. All of the key cast members are coming back for Atlantis, where as SG-1 stars are in negotiations, with Amanda Tapping expecting a baby in March right as filming begins. Also Richard Dean Anderson might look for an even further reduced role in the show. More news can be found here: Gateworld & Scifi-Wire"
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Stargate SG-1 & Atlantis Renewed

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:21AM (#10830301)
    Indeed. This is a cause for much celebration.
  • by Xpilot (117961) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:23AM (#10830324) Homepage
    Will he disappear for most of the season? You know, be stranded on some strange world without a stargate, until he builds one out of bamboo, chewing gum and duct tape with his trusty Swiss Army knife...oh, wrong series.

  • by Masami Eiri (617825) <brain.wav@gm[ ].com ['ail' in gap]> on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:23AM (#10830328) Journal
    w00t!

    I just hope the main cast is back, even if characters, like Jack, are reduced in screentime. SG-1 isn't SG-1 without... SG-1...

    • by wertarbyte (811674) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:31AM (#10830446) Homepage

      I just hope the main cast is back, even if characters, like Jack, are reduced in screentime. SG-1 isn't SG-1 without... SG-1...

      In my opionion, SG1 has lost much of its appeal with O'Neill becoming brigadier general. It's just not the same anymore. Stargate-Atlantis has the advantage for bringing fresh new ideas (and a fresh new cast) the the concept of the series

      • by Wylfing (144940) <brian AT wylfing DOT net> on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @01:09PM (#10831679) Homepage Journal
        Stargate-Atlantis has the advantage for bringing fresh new ideas (and a fresh new cast) the the concept of the series

        I enjoy Atlantis quite a bit. However, I don't feel like they have achieved the character depth of SG-1. The four SG-1 characters all carry pain, which makes them interesting to begin with, but what is fascinating about them is their pain is connected -- they've hurt and healed each other. Example: Daniel carries the with him the loss his wife, but what's worse is that she was ultimately killed by Teal'c, which adds betrayal. Killer lines:

        TEAL'C - Is there not some form of human ritual by which I can ask your fogiveness?

        DANIEL - No.

        Their relationship does heal over time, but there is always something between them in the background. That is an astonishingly complex character relationship for a science fiction series. All four of those characters are interconnected in similar ways. There's some tension between the Atlantis characters, but I'm waiting for something more, er, painful between them before it gets up to the level of SG-1.

        • Yeah- but it will happen after time. After all- the only character with pain in the original Stargate Movie was Jack O'Neil- fresh from the death of his son, ready to blow up himself with a nuclear weapon to prevent the Gua'uld from coming to Earth.
    • by T-Kir (597145) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:38AM (#10830518) Homepage

      Even though RDA (hoho, we need a Recommended Daily Amount of Richard Dean Anderson in SG1) had a reduced schedule for season 8, I feel he has had a much better presence since the promotion... mind that may be due in part that all his filming is done on the main set.

      Even if there are cast changes for season 9, I think the Stargate series has developed such a strong mythology and sheer amount of storylines that it could keep goign for a while longer. Plus, I'm extra happy that they aren't permenantly stranding the Atlantis team... and looking forward to seeing the Daedalus and Atlantis showdown with the Wraith hive ships. w00t! indeed! :-)

  • A while back someone on slashdot pointed out to me that Colonel O'neal (sp?) was MacGuyver. I can no longer watch SG-1 with a straight face. I'm always waiting for him to create an event horizon or temporary wormhole out of a bubblegum wrapper or something.
    • by Unkle (586324) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:27AM (#10830387)
      I can no longer watch SG-1 with a straight face.

      You mean you could before? Andersen's O'neal is much different than Kurt Russel's in the origional movie. He is much, MUCH funnier, while Russel was more serious (But, of course, in the movie O'neal had just lost his son...). The show would not be the same without him.

      • by Zach Garner (74342) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:38AM (#10830513)
        In the episode "Secrets", Col. O'Neill tells a reporter "That's O'Neill, with two L's. There's another Colonel O'Neil with one L. He has no sense of humor." In the feature film Stargate (1994), the lead character, whose name was spelled with one L, was played by 'Kurt Russel' and was a much more humorless character. [link [imdb.com]]
      • by eht (8912)
        Two L's
        Kurt Russell .... Col. Jonathan 'Jack' O'Neil
        Richard Dean Anderson .... Col./Gen. Jack O'Neill

        people often confuse one guy for the other...

        something O'Neill (Anderson) says in one of the episodes.
        • How come they both have the same dead son and Daniel Jackson knew O'Neill in the series 1 episode pilot by sight, as well as several others on Abidos? That and a few other things prove they are the same character in the series and the movie, regardless of the inconsistent spelling of the name.
          • That and a few other things prove they are the same character in the series and the movie, regardless of the inconsistent spelling of the name.

            I think this is the creators poking fun - at the audience or Russell, I'm not sure. It's like the classic DS9 episode where they worked the cast into the original episode "The Trouble With Tribbles." Someone asks Worf why the original series Klingons look so different, and he says "We don't like to talk about it."

            There've been many Slashdot threads trying to exp
    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:28AM (#10830403)
      There's an outtake from the first season where O'Neill and Carter are trapped in the Antarctic with a broken Stargate which features Carter going into a rant about being trapped with MacGyver and how he should be able to make a working gate.

      In the pilot, Carter also describes how they made their own dialing device and says they "MacGyvered it."
    • If you didn't know he played MacGyver, then how could this possibly ruin anything for you?

      It'd be like finding out the guy who had his hand up Grover's butt also had his hand up Yoda's. Doesn't necessarily ruin Star Wars by associating it with a children's tv show.

      Or does it? Hehe.
    • by paRcat (50146) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:37AM (#10830503)
      So many people think they're actually funny rehashing a joke that wasn't funny to begin with.

      Anyway, if you'd actually sit down and watch the show, you might be surprised that RDA can in fact be something other than the 80's TV show. He's really an amazing actor... to the tune that I don't believe the show would ever be as good without him. Of course, he's one of the producers too, so the show may not even BE without him. :)
    • I was on vacation last week and saw an episode of MacGuyver (Richard Dean Anderson) and Teal'c (Christopher Judge) were in the same MacGyuver episode.

      RDA was playing some special program school teacher, backed by the Peonix foundation and CJ was a football playing student in the class.

      On the episode before this, Kera (from Deep Space 9) was a oil-driller's girl friend.

      On another episode Cuba Gooding Jr. played a ranh hand.

      That same night I saw Joey (Tribilni from friends, or the guy that plays hom at le
  • Nooo not SG-1 :( (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Richard_at_work (517087) <richardprice.gmail@com> on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:24AM (#10830339)
    From the past few series 8 episodes of SG-1, its really past its prime and struggling to find a decent storyline. The last episode made it painfully obvious what the entire episode was going to be about in the first 5 minutes, and sure enough it was - talk about a filler episode (Teal'c stuck in that gaming chair). I really wish they didnt make another season of it :(
    • by canwaf (240401)
      I actually complained about SG1 being renewed too, I think Stargate SG1 needs to be retired. Not much you can really do about it though, they can milk out money for that extra season.

      But onto the subject of 'Avatar' (The episode where Teal'c is stuck in that gaming chair), this episode was created as advertisment for Stargate's new video game. Which made the episode feel cheaper than it was originally. I'm not certain, but the game footage in the episode could possibly have been done through the game engin
      • That episode was the worst ever.... it was obviously an advert for a game (although I didn't know they had one already...), was a rerun of a story from a previous series, and had zero actual new content.

        I've got a horrible feeling if SG1 isn't finished it's going to die a death due to overused storylines and bad scripts (aka. Voyager, Enterprise).
    • Richard,

      You can't just get back at me by trying to get the show cancelled. Like I said at the office yesterday, I'm flattered, but you're really not my type.

      Coming online and talking smack about the show I love just isn't the right way to handle this.

      Can't we be friends again?

      Love,

      CB
    • The good thing about StarGate is that there are practicle infinate possible good plots. They really can continue to make good episodes, though I fear they might have lost some writers or something. The lost of Dean Anderson (Jack) as a major role definatly hurt the series, but its not something that can't be overcome.
      Maybe its about time they start wrapping up the war with the Guhl, make it a season, then start the next season with a new enemy once the Guhl are gone. Or something along those lines.
    • The last episode made it painfully obvious what the entire episode was going to be about in the first 5 minutes, and sure enough it was - talk about a filler episode (Teal'c stuck in that gaming chair).

      But did you catch the "I play Def Jam Vendetta" reference?

  • by ravenspear (756059) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:25AM (#10830351)
    I love SG-1 (Atlantis is good too) and I'm glad it's coming back, but I hope it doesn't end up going way too long like the X-Files. I've noticed that the production quality has declined somewhat this season. It just feels too routine, there's not much spontaneity in the show anymore. And I don't think it will do better if RDA's role is reduced even further. If they can keep a good show going then it could work, but I'm a bit skeptical at this point.
    • by The Angry Mick (632931) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:57AM (#10830736) Homepage

      While I love SG-1, I also feel that the show is slipping noticeably now that Anderson's role has been reduced. He presence is what really made the team feel like a "team". When he's not around, you kinda get the feeling that the others are just out on a beer run for the boss - the missions don't feel as satisfying, and the drama drops somehow.

      What I'd like to see them do, from a plot perspective, is to begin wrapping up the series by tying up all of the loose Goa'uld storylines into a single, massively long story arc that airs over several episodes. Instead of a two-part season finale, how about a seven or ten parter? It'll guarantee ratings as the viewers couldn't afford to miss one episode of the arc (even with Sci-Fi's neverending repeats), and you'd wrap up the series with a bangup sense of accomplishment.

  • Smart decision (Score:5, Interesting)

    by YetAnotherName (168064) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:27AM (#10830393) Homepage
    I only watch either show occasionally (my wife's quite the fanatic), but what I've seen is pretty good, as far as science fiction goes. Acting is definitely above average, Richard Dean Anderson's portrayals as an everyman facing aliens brings a wry grin now and then. Oh, and Amanda Tapping is quite cute, no doubt about that. It's nice that SciFi can make the right decision sometimes. (And sad that they can make the horribly wrong decision other times, c.f. canceling Farscape not so long ago.)
    • by underpar (792569) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:34AM (#10830467) Homepage
      You know she just watches the show for Daniel Jackson. He's geeky and cute and you can hardly notice the episodes where they try to cover up his rather large belly by making him hold a sweater or wear a huge belt. He's dreamy.

      My husband has accepted my crushes on fictional characters.
      • Michael Shanks's wife, is Rommy on Andromeda. She is hawt hawt hawt hawt. Her name is Lexa Doig.

        Their children will grow up to seduce the world.
        • Re:Smart decision (Score:3, Informative)

          by lowmagnet (646428)

          Daughter, Mia Tabitha Shanks, with Lexa Doig, born 13 September 2004.

          And so it begins. This also explains why Brandy Ledford has been on Andromeda, and Lexa is limited to head shots.

    • It's nice that SciFi can make the right decision sometimes

      Kudos to Sci-Fi. We should also remember to throw a little credit to Showtime for getting the show started in the first place.

    • I realize this is going OT, but wth, I've got karma to burn.

      I simply don't understand the attraction so many /.ers have to Farscape. The plots are overly simplistic (although at least they're better than Hercules in Space, aka Andromeda), and frankly-- I got tired of watching Jim Hensen's muppets years ago. The acting is flat, the directing is stale, the special effects are standard industry fare (by which I mean that they don't suck, but they're not about to win any awards either), and the premise is j
    • Re:Smart decision (Score:4, Insightful)

      by TheRaven64 (641858) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @12:14PM (#10830983) Journal
      I think the best thing about SG-1 is their attitude to technobabble. It seems quite common for writers of similar series' to fill in gaps with long strings of technobabble which anyone with even a moderately scientific background can tell are just nonsense, and try to base the plot on these. Most of the time in SG-1 when this happens, Jack's blank stare or interruption stops them before they get started. One of my favourite lines was from (I think) the first episode of Atlantis, where someone tries to explain something about the stargate and Jack replies with `Well, that was a waste of a perfectly good explanation'.
  • Jumping the Shark? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Rosyna (80334) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:29AM (#10830416) Homepage
    I'm worried that prolonged existence of SG-1 might make it jump the shark. AFAIK, it was never supposed to exist past its 7th season but the ratings that year were so good they scrapped the plans for the movie and made it into that year's season finale (which also explains its awesomeness and why the good Doctor had to die).

    SG-1 and SG:A were never meant to coexist, also why Atlantis was moved to another galaxy. The creators/writers never meant for them to show at the same time and they didn't want the easy way out whenever SG:A had a problem and just get SG-1 to fix it. I think this simultaneous rushing for two shows is also why the first half of each of the most recent seasons sucked compared to season 7.
    • good Doctor had to die


      Well, I'm just about to undertake watching all this on DVD.

      Thanks for the spoiler warning, you lone gunman fuck.

      -Peter
      • Thanks for the spoiler warning, you lone gunman fuck.

        It's been over a year... and I didn't say which good Doctor, now did I? They have like 3.

        A wise man without a shift key once said:

        "hi, i have not yet seen something that was on TV like [twelve] months ago, so i will read a ton of comments about it, in the vain hope that no one will reveal anything"
    • by squiggleslash (241428) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:54AM (#10830713) Homepage Journal
      I think SG-1 is going to get better and better myself. The new series adds Ted McGinley as slick, cool, Doctor Wozniak, who accompanies the team on each of their missions.

      They're also adding a dog, Rover, who'll play a kind of "Lassie" character, alerting the team to danger and fetching help when they're in trouble.

      They've got some excellent guest stars lined up for the next season, including N-Sync and J-Lo, Al Gore, Alec Baldwin, Wierd Al, and William Shatner.

      Finally, they've actually worked Tapping's pregnancy into the script. I may be saying too much, but expect a baby to be part of the plotline mid season - with surprising results!

  • And now... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Atmchicago (555403)

    Let a million references to the recent potential discovery [slashdot.org] of Atlantis ensue.

  • Atlantis is terrible (Score:5, Informative)

    by visionsofmcskill (556169) <vision@getmp.PLANCKcom minus physicist> on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:34AM (#10830473) Homepage Journal
    Atlantis is the Voyager/Enterprise of Stargate, The show is really terrible. And this isnt even the fourth iteratin of the stargate universe (if you disclude the cartoon and movie).

    Dont get me wrong, i dont expect stars and accolades out of a series which barely discerns itself from the likes of zena/hurcules/Beastmaster in some of its episodes (did these guys share their prop guys/ set designers or what?)

    But for me, the most endearing part of the Stargate series has for themost part been McGyv..Richard's humorfull character. Without Dean, the show just becomes just another crappy lets fight aliens in fantasy planets with cool ancient civilizations based on old earth.

    And Atlantis is pure poo, the characters are all cookie cutter type-casts to the point of stereotyping your viewer audience fan-service, maybe this is what happens when sci-fi channel does..... well just about anything.... but that show is terrible.

    Stargate itself has been pretty damn good (with some notable exceptions ... ergo anyone?) and im glad to see it continue on, but atlantis is in dire need of a total abortion or a complete re-write with some more serious characters who actualy act like a military operation.

    Anyone remember space above and beyond?

    This is why im really happy about the Battlestar galactica series comming this new year... Gritty, realistic, and hopefully... above all else... not more episodal space opera campy bullsh*t.

    • How can you say that when the main male character was as carefully crafted as Poochy the dog? You can't go wrong with marketing.
    • by BorgDrone (64343)
      the characters are all cookie cutter type-casts
      Go watch season 1 of SG-1 again, you'll see the same thing.

      New series need time to deepen the characters, that's why every season has at least a few 'character building' episodes.
      • by metlin (258108) *
        Actually, SG-1 started off like that but picked up real quick. For instance, they introduced the Nox, the Tollans, the Azhard all in the first season -- _and_ they did it really really well.

        Season 2 was good too, especially some episodes such as the Fifth Race and Tok'Ra -- it wasn't just about fighting aliens, it was being out there and there was something special about humanity's deepest aspirations to be out there, and do cool stuff.

        I somehow find that missing in SG Atlantis.
    • This is why im really happy about the Battlestar galactica series comming this new year... Gritty, realistic, and hopefully... above all else... not more episodal space opera campy bullsh*t.

      Don't get too happy... we already have it here.

      Badly acted (where do that *find* these people!), badly scripted (at times it seems like they're trying to ad-lib and failing), and worst of all the camera work was done by a trainee they grabbed off the street - half the time the camera is looking at the roof or floor no
      • I dont think they are badly acted, I think they come across as 'real'. None of this acted emotion crap. And the camera work is meant to be like that, its shot in a documentary way, which I kind of like.
      • [...] worst of all the camera work was done by a trainee they grabbed off the street - half the time the camera is looking at the roof or floor not at the actors!

        That's deliberate. They are using the documentary-ish technique that Firefly had. Kind of a 'what happened? where?' attempt for TV.

        I would say give them more time, but you've indicated that you aren't. YMDV (Your Mileage Did Vary) I try to give a new show a season to work itself out. It takes time for the people involved to see what works
    • Sadly I must agree with this. I always thought the strength of SG-1 was the characters. Not just O'Neil, but many regular and recurring. Even the scenery-chewing goauld had some individual personality to them. I can't say the same for Atlantis. Those few characters that are even distinguishable tend to be stock types lifted from other sci-fi (genre-not-network) shows.
    • by CoolCash (528004) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:57AM (#10830744) Homepage
      Go back and dust off your season one DVD set of Stargate SG-1. Compare those characters to the characters of today's episodes, completely different. Back then they were the stereotypical, cookie cutter, typecasts. It took a couple of seasons before the actors found their nitch. Also, if you looked back when The Next Generation aired, many of the same people said the same things about that show.
      • "when The Next Generation aired, many of the same people said the same things about that show."

        Yeah , and they were right. Stock stereotypes right up to and including the last episode. But then you can say that for every star trek series including the original with its Dashing Captain, Logical 1st Officer, Comic Relief Scotsman, Irascable Doctor and Token Black Woman.
    • I really have trouble taking the Wraiths seriously in Atlantis (and not just from the fact that both they and the Ancient weapon in Antarctica make me feel that one of the writers has been playing Escape Velocity: Nova too much). They supposedly defeated the Ancients 10,000 years ago. Since then, they have had 10,000 years to develop their technology. Let's assume that they sleep for 90% of the time, and that's still 1,000 years. And yet, their ships can still be shot down with a bazooka (even the Gou'o
  • Thats good (Score:2, Interesting)

    by HyperVerbal (520364)
    That great that there still going but i still wish there was more Firefly not just the movie coming out. :(
  • Fixing SG-1 (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Erasmus Darwin (183180) on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @11:51AM (#10830664)
    What they really need to do is get the SG-1 team back on track in the show. To do this, they need to replace the opening left by Jack and start doing off-world missions again. Too many of the current shows have had them futzing around Earth, giving a "filler episode" feel to almost the entire season.

    As for filling Jack's shoes, a suggestion I liked from another forum was to let Adam Baldwin reprise his role from "Heroes". He'd be good at providing the aggressive, militaristic mentality that'd help keep the same brain vs. brawn balance that the team had before.

  • MacGyver (Score:2, Funny)

    by slapout (93640)
    I'm still waiting for MacGyver to do a guest appearance. :-)
  • Good. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by BoneFlower (107640) <george@worroll.gmail@com> on Tuesday November 16, 2004 @03:13PM (#10833580) Journal
    Things are going to heat up in the latter half of this season, but there are still some threads that need tying up. Klorel for one, he needs to be dealt with to fully resolve the Apophis storyline. The Aschen arc was supposed to be three episodes. I also don't see the Replicators being finished up this season. And... Think back to "The Fifth Race". I think it would be a great final episode for O'Neill, Thor, the Nox chick, some Furling, and Oma Desala to meet at Ernests planet, or perhaps the place where O'Neill first downloaded the ancient library, to restore the old alliance and admit humanity.

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