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Slashback: Randomness, Donations, Ramp 127

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Slashback (below) brings another round of updates and clarification to recent and continuing stories here on Slashdot. This evening, there's more video of the recent space shuttle launch, a reminder about the other 10th planet, an encouraging update about open source medical software, another approach to structure-as-PC-enclosure, and more. Read on for the details.
Shuttle launches are easier to fake than moon landings. Rex Ridenoure writes "Shuttle External Tank RocketCam video highlights from the STS-114 'Return to Flight' launch on July 26 have been posted on Ecliptic's website. Ecliptic supplied this RocketCam system to ET builder Lockheed Martin Michoud [Louisiana] Operations. A slow-motion clip of the now-famous ET foam shedding event has been inserted at the time it occurred -- about 1:40 after liftoff.

Still on the 'things in space' front: Sedna isn't nearly as sexy a name. Martian Anthropologist writes, of the recently announced discovery of a tenth planet in our solar system, "Actually, there's good reason to say that this is really the 11th planet, not the 10th. Another large body, now named Sedna, was discovered last year. It is slightly smaller than Pluto."

(Here's some earlier coverage of Sedna on Slashdot.)

Software for the Commonwealth. Aaron writes "As a followup to a recent story about the U.S. Government giving away its Electronic Medical Record Software, a small practice of physicians describes their experience transitioning from paper to electronic charts. Not everything goes well, from training staff to use Windows XP and tablet computers to viruses that crash their system to physicians complaining about being relegated to data-entry clerk status. In the end, however, they would never go back to paper.

From the article:'"Doctor, do you find you are spending more time interacting with the computer than with your patients?" For a while, the answer was clearly yes.'"

Aw, shucks, he might have done it anyhow. David writes "Thanks to my Ask Slashdot porting query, Ryan Gordon (aka icculus), the man who ported Unreal Tournament and many other popular games to Linux, is going to be working on the Linux version of Lugaru. It should be ready soon!"

You have to watch the quiet types, and never let them near your obscure hardware. jschauma writes "About a month ago, NetBSD made a Plea for 'Cold, Hard Cash', a Call for Donations. The results were very positive: an impressive $27K were donated since then, allowing the NetBSD Foundation to purchase five new machines; three of those machines will be added to the nightly build infrastructure and two of those machines will become anonymous cvs servers. See Christos Zoulas's email for detailed specifications of the hardware, and feel free to continue the donations!"

Definitely not for snowboarding helmet cam use. The CVS one time use camcorder has now been hacked so that videos can be downloaded over USB -- no need to desolder the flash memory.

How to spot a future writer-of-Federal-grants. Jason Schroeder writes "The recent story on the guy who put a Mac Mini in the wall reminded me of something I'd seen a while back: The Parabolic Heat Transference Case Mod for his Red Hat server. Pretty good idea with lots of scientific tidbits to make it interesting."

Hey, these fakes are a bunch of phoney frauds! strib writes "Remember SCIgen, the program that randomly-generated an accepted paper at WMSCI 2005? Well, thanks in part to the generous donations of Slashdotters, we made it down to the conference and gave a session full of fake talks. And it's all on video. Thanks to everyone who helped!"
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  • About the eleventh planet mentioned in slashback (Score:5, Interesting)

    by WillAffleckUW ( 858324 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:06PM (#13245971) Homepage Journal
    I should point out most commentary - as indicated on space.com and sciencemagazine.com - is that it is highly likely that Pluto will be downgraded to non-planet status, as well as the eleventh orbital body that is larger than Pluto.

    So, while I'm sure Disney may object, it looks like Pluto's just a pet and no longer a planet.

    But, cheer up, since we can clone dogs now, maybe this is a good thing.

  • One other thing... (Score:2, Informative)

    by Azadre ( 632442 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:07PM (#13245976)
    The lack of high moderation... There have been so few 5s this week it is depressing.

  • Mini (Score:0)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:11PM (#13245997)
    How can you compare putting a mini into a wall, dumbest thing ever, to doing something genuinely interesting.

  • 10th, 11th, what next? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:11PM (#13246001)
    this is really the 11th planet, not the 10th. Another large body, now named Sedna, was discovered last year. It is slightly smaller than Pluto.

    Or, more sensibly, they could just declassify Pluto as a planet and reclassify it as just some Kuiper belt object (which is what it is) with an classification number and a cute, historical name.

    That would leave us with 9 planets, big asteroids, some of which are named Pluto, Sedna or Bernard for historical or affectionate reasons, and all the others being called XYZ-some-number. That would make much more sense, and kill the slightly silly debate over how many numbers of planet there are in the solar system once and for all.

    • Re:10th, 11th, what next? (Score:3, Funny)

      by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:14PM (#13246014)
      That would leave us with 9 planets, big asteroids

      I meant 8 planets of course.

    • Re:10th, 11th, what next? (Score:5, Funny)

      by SatanMat ( 757225 ) <PowellS@gmail.com> on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:22PM (#13246053) Journal
      Rupert... You forgot Rupert...


      sheesh, I'm gonna go get my towel now...

    • Re:10th, 11th, what next? (Score:2)

      by steelfood ( 895457 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:26PM (#13246067)
      I think without Pluto, we'd have 8 planets.

      I'm not sure anyone's really set down formal guidelines for classifying all the celestial bodies. I'm not so sure it's possible to do so in generic terms such as "planet" or "moon" when there are so many possible variations. What we probably should have done was formalize a classification system based on size (which largely determines physical appearance) and location. But now that people are used to Pluto being a planet like the other 4 solid ones closer to the Sun (Earth and its ilk), it won't be easy to change their habits.

      Besides, discovering another "planet" out there sounds far more exciting than finding a Kuniper Belt Object. The media, at the very least, won't give up that classification even after all the astronomers have.

    • Re:10th, 11th, what next? (Score:1, Funny)

      by 01101101 01100101 ( 904861 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:38PM (#13246120)
      I sit in sad repose as I put pen to paper concerning an issue I find most deeply disturbing. I assume you already know that Slashdot's hangers-on have been trained, organized, and motivated to calumniate helpless wonks, but I have something more important to tell you. Although I respect Slashdot's right to free speech just as I respect it for crotchety disreputable-types, demented good-for-nothings, and tyrannical euphuists, one of the things I find quite interesting is listening to other people's takes on things. For instance, I recently overheard some folks remark that to Slashdot's mind, its remonstrations enhance performance standards, productivity, and competitiveness. So that means that it's inappropriate to teach children right from wrong, right? No, not right. The truth is that the baneful nature of Slashdot's initiatives is not just a rumor. It is a fact to which I can testify. Now, I don't mean for that to sound pessimistic, although the absurdity of Slashdot's op-ed pieces did not dawn on me until I realized that ignoring the problem of onanism will not make it go away. That's the sort of statement that some people believe is batty, but which I believe is merely a statement of fact. And it's a statement that needs to be made, because we all have a moral obligation to stand up together and forcefully oppose Slashdot's sinister propositions. Well, that's getting away from my main topic, which is that certain facts are clear. For instance, it may seem difficult at first to advance a clear, credible, and effective vision for dealing with our present dilemma and its most disgraceful manifestations. It is. But it really struck a nerve with me when it said that we should avoid personal responsibility. That lie is a painful reminder that Slashdot ignores the most basic ground rule of debate. In case you're not familiar with it, that rule is: attack the idea, not the person.

      The truth hurts, doesn't it, Slashdot? Slashdot's platitudes are based on two fundamental errors. They assume that we should all bear the brunt of Slashdot's actions. And they promote the mistaken idea that "the norm" shouldn't have to worry about how the exceptions feel. I wish I could say this nicely, but I don't have much tolerance for the worst classes of foul-mouthed, pertinacious misfits I've ever seen: Slashdot holds onto power like the eunuch mandarins of the Forbidden City -- sterile obstacles to progress who impose ideology, control thought, and punish virtually any behavior it disapproves of. Slashdot maintains that the moon is made of green cheese. This is hardly the case. Rather, there is growing evidence that says, to the contrary, that it can't fool me. I've met sententious vagabonds before, so I know that if you look back over some of my older letters, you'll see that I predicted that Slashdot would rip apart causes that others feel strongly about. And, as I predicted, it did. But you know, that was not a difficult prediction to make. Anyone who has bothered to learn even a little about Slashdot could have made the same prediction.

      Come on, Slashdot; I know you're capable of thoughtful social behavior. I feel that Slashdot's slogans are all too often clad in the nugatory garb of voyeurism. My views, of course, are not the issue here. The issue is that all the deals it makes are strictly one-way. Slashdot gets all the rights, and the other party gets all the obligations. Slashdot talks loudly about family values and personal responsibility, but when it comes to backing up those words with actions, all it does is pursue a twofold credo of vigilantism and anarchism. Let no one say that Slashdot has mystical powers of divination and prophecy. No, this is twisted despotism and must be regarded as an attempt to encourage young people to break all the rules, cut themselves loose from their roots, and adopt a doctrinaire, revolting lifestyle.

      In case you have any doubts, if Slashdot gets its way, I might very well hide in a closet. To the fullest extent that my age and health will permit, I myself will beat S

    • Re:10th, 11th, what next? (Score:1)

      by Sawopox ( 18730 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:52PM (#13246173) Homepage Journal
      This whole topic is quite interesting to me. I teach 8th grade science, and one unit we cover is an introduction to astronomy.

      Being 100% geek, I add in way more than the curriculum calls for (worms holes, space-time continuum, SETI, Doom3 'cause it's on Mars.) and mentioning this possible reclassification of Pluto and the newly discovered celestial bodies is also something I think my students will find interesting.

      I have found that the astronomy unit is quite interesting to the students, and exposing them to the cutting-edge in modern astronomy really perks their interest. I am in the process of building a small linux network just for my classroom to expose the students to it, teach myself some networking stuff, and allow them to play with some of the cool astronomy/space programs available for Linux.

      Now I just need those new machines from the NetBSD guys to run a universe simulator in class (and get rockstar SETI@Home credits).

      Donations anyone?

    • Re:10th, 11th, what next? (Score:1)

      by Fishstick ( 150821 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @09:24PM (#13246300) Journal
      >they could just declassify Pluto as a planet and reclassify it as just some Kuiper belt object

      Good idea, but it will never happen. There have already been "save Pluto!" campaigns from people and groups emotionally attached to the idea that Pluto is a "planet".

      Thoughts that Pluto might be "demoted" to non-planet status created an emotional response in certain sectors of the public. Such news outlets as the BBC News Online, the Boston Globe, and USA Today all printed stories noting that the International Astronomical Union was considering dropping Pluto's planetary status. "Save Pluto" websites sprang up, and school children sent letters to astronomers and the IAU.

      On February 3, 1999, Brian Marsden of the Minor Planet Center inadvertently fueled the debate when he issued an editorial in the Minor Planet Electronic Circular 1999-C03 noting that the 10,000th minor planet was about to be numbered and this called for a large celebration (the IAU celebrates every thousandth numbered minor planet in some way). He suggested that Pluto be honored with the number 10,000, giving it "dual citizenship" of sorts as both a major and a minor planet.

      Between the media reports and the Minor Planet Electronic Circulars, IAU General Secretary Joannes Anderson issued a press release that same day, stating there were no plans to change Pluto's planetary status. Eventually, the number 10,000 was assigned to an "ordinary" asteroid, 10000 Myriostos.

      The debate centers on how a "planet", from the Greek for "wanderer", is an appellation that depends upon an object's particular size, formation, or orbit. Some argue that not only is Pluto a major planet but also some moons like Titan, Europa or Triton, or even the larger asteroids. Some argue that an astronomical object more than about 360 km in diameter, at which point the object has a tendency to become round under its own gravity, should be known as a major planet; this would include several moons and a handful of asteroids. Isaac Asimov suggested the term mesoplanet be used for planetary objects intermediate in size between Mercury, the smallest terrestrial planet with a diameter of 4879.4 km and Ceres, the largest known asteroid with a mean diameter of 950 km, which would include Pluto but not most moons.

    • Re:10th, 11th, what next? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04, 2005 @11:41PM (#13246924)
      I've never understood this argument--what's the problem with having 50 planets? What's this weird thing about sanctity of the term "planet"? People are either sanctimonious about the status of Pluto, or sanctimonious about the status of the word "planet". There's no need to be so obsessive about either.

      I'm swiftly coming to the conclusion that the best thing to do is to classify Pluto, Sedna, and whatever this new object will be called as planets.

      I think we need to stop talking about "what's a planet" and start talking about types of planets.

      I think a very good solution would be to call these KBOs planets, and then refer to them as such: "KBO planets" or "icy planets." We already have "rocky planets" and "gas giant planets." I think there's no problem with calling these KBOs "icy planets" and saying there's 4 "rocky planets", 4 "gas giant planets", 30 "icy planets" and so forth.

      This discussion needs to move away from classifying things as planets versus non-planets and into classifying them as types of planets. I think it would be much more productive.

      I shudder to think what will happen when we actually start having detailed knowledge of another solar system, and this issue arises again then.

  • Return to the Slashdot Effect (Score:5, Funny)

    by Tackhead ( 54550 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:13PM (#13246009)
    > A slow-motion clip of the now-famous ET foam shedding event has been inserted at the time it occurred -- about 1:40 after liftoff

    A slow-downloading clip of the soon-to-be-famous halon fire extinguisher video has been inserted into the server room at the time it occurred -- about 1:40 after a link to a page with a 14-megabyte STS-114 video went live on Slashdot.

  • CVS Disposable Camera (Score:1)

    by greensasquatch ( 854800 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:26PM (#13246070)
    I keep hearing about these things on slashdot. This must be a US only product. I cannot find anywhere in Canada that sells these things. Perhaps someone can buy a bunch and sell them on ebay with a slight markup? I'd buy one.

    • Re:CVS Disposable Camera (Score:2)

      by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:43PM (#13246134)
      I keep hearing about these things on slashdot. This must be a US only product. I cannot find anywhere in Canada that sells these things. Perhaps someone can buy a bunch and sell them on ebay with a slight markup? I'd buy one.

      Hurry up to get one, because being a US product hacked by US hackers, the sequence is as follow

      CVS camera --> hack --> DMCA lawsuit + new "improved" camera (ooh, the hack doesn't work with that one!)

      • Re:CVS Disposable Camera (Score:5, Informative)

        by morcheeba ( 260908 ) * on Thursday August 04, 2005 @09:16PM (#13246265) Journal
        This is the third camera from the same company that I've reverse engineered and made reusable. So far, no lawsuit. While I wouldn't want a lawsuit, I think this would be an excellent test case for a few reasons:
        - Numero uno, I am not breaking the DMCA. Hopefully people only sue when a law is violated, but, sadly, that's not always the case.
        - I am accessing my own pictures, to which I have the copyright. The DMCA only protects rights-owners (me).
        - I am reverse-engineering for interoperability, which is permitted. Some judges think this only applies to personal computers and not "other" computers (like printer controllers, like in the Lexmark case) -- but I'm interfacing to a plain old PC.
        - Cameras have direct parallels to the "analog world". People have been developing kodak film with fuji chemicals for ages. It's a case that judges and juries can understand.
        - The courts have found for the defendants even in much less clear-cut cases (like Lexmark).

        Here's my webpage about the DMCA and these cameras. [maushammer.com]

        One very good trick Pure Digital has that keeps people out of their cameras is changing the architecture. The three cameras have had 3 different processors (8051, 8-bit RISC, MIPS), 3 kinds of toolsets (one big program, mini-OS, and full-blown embedded OS), and 3 IP vendors. This means the work I don on one camera doesn't apply to the next one... and will eventually tire me out -- it's a lot of work to do, and it takes them less effort to modify an existing camera than it does me to unlock it.

        (p.s. my Make submission contained essentially the same text as my earlier, rejected slashdot submission [slashdot.org]

        • Re:CVS Disposable Camera (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Doc Ruby ( 173196 ) on Friday August 05, 2005 @04:01AM (#13247819) Homepage Journal
          You are a hero. You're hacking disposable cameras into reusable ones: both saving waste and making cheap cameras available. You're cutting through the DMCA "chilling" BS that is freezing developers even more than is the overboard law. And you've got a sense of proportion - and even a sense of humor. I almost wish some fool at CVS would sue you, so we'd get a precedent. But I'm not that foolish to think that you're a superhero, so I don't wish that :).

    • Re:CVS Disposable Camera (Score:1)

      by thatnerdguy ( 551590 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:46PM (#13246150) Journal
      no shit....do we have cvs pharmacies in canada? I guess not even Pharmaprix/Shoppers Drug Mart will touch these.
  • "and in conclusion, this prevents the World Wide Web."

    Classic shit.

  • Vista and CPRS (Score:1)

    by bwags ( 534113 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:33PM (#13246101)
    My wife is a doc at the VA and uses Vista. It is a nice application. She loves to be able to VPN into the hospital and do her notes at home. It seems like the program was written in Delphi. Can anyone confirm this?

  • Why hack CVS? (Score:4, Funny)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:38PM (#13246119)
    CVS one time use camcorder has now been hacked so that videos can be downloaded over USB

    Last I checked, cvs co works well enough.

  • New Names? (Score:2, Funny)

    by pyr0r0ck3r ( 702602 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @08:54PM (#13246183) Homepage
    So since this new planet is bigger than Pluto, and most likely affects Pluto's orbit, I say we call it Mickey.

    Also, what happens to the moons of Pluto - IIRC, Pluto has two satellites orbiting it...Chip and Dale, I think. If Pluto becomes a non-planet, do these just become asteroids?

  • Always a conspiracy theory. (Score:1)

    by jellomizer ( 103300 ) * on Thursday August 04, 2005 @09:03PM (#13246218)
    What I find interesting the more we are exposed to fiction,reality seems more fake. Sure there is the big brother thing and all. But if the world is so full of these conspiracies then why aren't they completely uncovered more. I am not saying there is no corruption in the world and we as normal citizens are getting the full picture. I mean some of these are so large and will require so many people to pull off and knowing human nature someone will slip up. Like Deep Thought, and the Nixon Conspiracy is relatively small.

  • No linux source for CVS hack? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by sanermind ( 512885 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @09:08PM (#13246236)
    I'm seriously tempted to go out and buy one of these right now, but for the fact that I am one of those in the minority who actually don't own or use windows at all. The code is windows only. But, since the program for the camera occupies flash memory, I would suspect that their is some facility for re-flashing the programming on the camera to avoid this hack... and I could concievably see employees at CVS's plugging in all the cameras to load them with updated software soon, thus eliminating the reusable utility of a camera purchased in the future.

    I wonder how hard it would be for someone to port the code to a useable linux application?

  • Sedna isn't nearly as sexy a name... (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04, 2005 @09:12PM (#13246250)
    ...as Surectum, but I don't think they'll go for it given the problems with that other planet's name.

  • How do you use the USB? (Score:2)

    by /dev/trash ( 182850 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @09:16PM (#13246267) Homepage Journal
    I've read the links and I can see where the "Insert USB cable, download data" step is." Any idea?

    +++
    Cache In, Trash Out!

  • Weren't there TWO "tenth planets"? (Score:2, Informative)

    by millennial ( 830897 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @09:27PM (#13246317) Journal
    Sedna and Quaoar?
    Although I've heard that Quaoar has been classified as a non-planet, I'm not sure about Sedna.
    Besides, according to New Scientist, there could be many, many more planets [newscientist.com] out there.

  • Question about E.T. tank video (Score:2)

    by Rob Carr ( 780861 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @09:46PM (#13246407) Homepage Journal
    I watched the shuttle launch live on MSNBC.

    I think it was when the E.T. tank had separated, you could see a dot that appeared to be in the distance moving from right to left above the curvature of the Earth. The speed appeared to be steady, but I didn't time it and it appeared slow. Just guessing, the dot was:

    • chase plane
    • reflection off of something
    • satellite
    • launch debris
    • SRB

    It was there for a chunk of time. If it was a chase plane, it was darn high up and moving very fast in a weird geometry. If it was a reflection, it's strange, since it was so small and didn't look like a flare. If it's a satellite, it's very low (milsat dipping low for observation of the shuttle?). If it's a satellite high up and far around the earth, it's moving far too fast (I think). If it's launch debris, why does it appear to be moving perpendicular to the shuttle at a constant velocity? If it was an SRB, those things coast a lot longer than I thought and go a lot higher than I thought.

    I didn't record it, but I'm sure it's on someone's VCR or Tivo. I'm not trying to claim it's a UFO or proof they faked the shuttle launch. I'm just not sure what it was. I've tried to find out a number of ways, but with the emphasis on the foam falling off the E.T., no one seems to care.

    Thanks for the help.

    • Re:Question about E.T. tank video (Score:2)

      by Rob Carr ( 780861 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @10:06PM (#13246497) Homepage Journal
      I forgot to mention: I think that's the dot visible right at the end of the clip on Ecliptic's website [eclipticenterprises.com]. It's there for 3, maybe 5 seconds at the end. There's not much of it in the video.

      One other possibility is that it's a piece of E.T. debris. If it is, it would have had to fly away from the shuttle significantly to produce such pronounced right-to-left motion.

    • Re:Question about E.T. tank video (Score:2)

      by bleckywelcky ( 518520 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @11:37PM (#13246909)
      Looked for it in the video, could not find what you were talking about.

      • Re:Question about E.T. tank video (Score:2)

        by Rob Carr ( 780861 ) on Friday August 05, 2005 @12:28AM (#13247130) Homepage Journal
        3:49 in the video (you probably have to enlarge the screen to as big as your monitor will take), if you look at the orbiter forward attachment [nasa.gov] (upside down "v") that's sort of "pink" with a "blue bottom" to the "v" (since it's upside down, the "blue" is at the top). Just below the blue on the left hand side, you'll see a little dot come out from behind the shuttle forward attachment. There's very little in this video -- it continued across the screen for a while after the E.T. sep.

        The E.T. is no longer accelerating (except for a very small negative acceleration from drag and some downward component from gravity)so it's possible the dot is in a lot closer and is some sort of debris. I'm still not clear on why it would be moving right to left, if that's what it is.

        • Re:Question about E.T. tank video (Score:1)

          by pintpusher ( 854001 ) on Friday August 05, 2005 @12:33PM (#13250827) Journal
          do you mean that brief left-to-right flashing dot? runs from about the top of the OFA to the right of the screen? seems to me to pretty closely parallel the horizon which would likely make it a satelite? or non-shuttle debris (ie space junk)? interesting.

        • Re:Question about E.T. tank video (Score:2)

          by bleckywelcky ( 518520 ) on Monday August 08, 2005 @12:57PM (#13270719)
          Ok, I think I found it, but I saw 2 things:

          1) A second or two before the shuttle starts moving away after ET separation (around 3:25) you see some pieces shoot out to the right, then appear to come back to the left. These pieces are fluttering and spinning as indicated by the cycling of light/dark coming from them. These are most likely debris from the separation mechanism due to the time that they occur and that the "leftward" movement is actually them trailing off into the background.

          2) After ET separation right around 3:49 there is a faint light just to the left of the upside-down V. This is most likely a very bright object at some distance out in space (star, Mars, other planet, etc). At LEO, the period of the shuttle's orbit is about 90 minutes. Compare this 1.5 hours to our period of orbit here at ground level (24 hours). The shuttle is whipping around the Earth quite fast, and stars will appear to move in relative space (definitely not inertial space) very quickly, hence the movement of the faint light in the video. The reason why you don't see more stars in the background is because the albedo of Earth is killing off all but the brightest stars (or planets, etc) in the sky.

  • icculus (Score:2)

    by imr ( 106517 ) on Thursday August 04, 2005 @09:51PM (#13246425)
    I'm not surprised he is going to port lugaru.
    Not because he is porting more projects than anyone, not because he is talented, not because he is blazzing fast, not because he has swear to have every other linux porter to starve, not because he wants the money, no, just because the moves of the rabbit are really cool and i'm sure he liked them.

  • There shall be only 8 planets (Score:3, Informative)

    by dtfinch ( 661405 ) * on Friday August 05, 2005 @12:35AM (#13247154) Journal
    We'll just classify the rest as nothing more than gigantic rocks orbiting the sun. We will no doubt find dozens more rocks out there a that are a lot like Pluto.

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