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College Funding Bill Passes House, P2P Provision Intact 222

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Ars Technica is reporting that the College Opportunity and Affordability Act passed through the House today with a vote of 354-58 and the anti-P2P provision is intact. That provision would require universities to filter P2P and to offer legal alternatives. They are claiming now, though, that universities would not lose federal funding if they fail to do this. Of course, an amendment that would have clarified that was withdrawn immediately after it was offered."
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College Funding Bill Passes House, P2P Provision Intact

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  • bad summary (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08, 2008 @06:02PM (#22354770)
    Read the bill itself:

    http://edlabor.house.gov/bills/HEAReauthorizationText.pdf [house.gov]

    The relevant section:

    (a) DISCLOSURE OF POLICIES AND SANCTIONS RE-
    LATED TO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.--Section
    485(a)(1) (20 U.S.C. 1092(a)(1)) is amended--
            (1) by striking ``and'' at the end of subpara-
        graph (N);
            (2) by striking the period at the end of sub-
        paragraph (O) and inserting ``: and'' ; and
            (3) by adding at the end the following new sub-
        paragraph:
                  ``(P) institutional policies and sanctions re-
            lated to copyright infringement, including--
                      ``(i) an annual disclosure that explic-
                  itly informs students that unauthorized
    distribution of copyrighted material, in-
    cluding unauthorized peer-to-peer file shar-
    ing, may subject the students to civil and
    criminal liabilities;
          ``(ii) a summary of the penalties for
    violation of Federal copyright laws;
          ``(iii) a description of the institution's
    policies with respect to unauthorized peer-
    to-peer file sharing, including disciplinary
    actions that are taken against students
    who engage in unauthorized distribution of
    copyrighted materials using the institu-
    tion's information technology system; and
          ``(iv) a description of actions that the
    institution takes to prevent and detect un-
    authorized distribution of copyrighted ma-
    terial on the institution's information tech-
    nology system.''.
    which is a patch to this [cornell.edu].

    Looks like it simply means that the institution must disclose the policies etc. So they could simply say "we're doing nothing" and comply with the law.
  • by Bimo_Dude ( 178966 ) <bimoslash.theness@org> on Friday February 08, 2008 @06:19PM (#22354944) Homepage Journal
    Looking at the text of the bill [loc.gov], it doesn't appear as though the institutions actually have to block p2p, but they "shall" [Must] develop a plans to explore options.

    FTB:

    SEC. 494. CAMPUS-BASED DIGITAL THEFT PREVENTION.

    (a) In General- Each eligible institution participating in any program under this title shall to the extent practicable--
    (1) make publicly available to their students and employees, the policies and procedures related to the illegal downloading and distribution of copyrighted materials required to be disclosed under section 485(a)(1)(P); and
    (2) develop a plan for offering alternatives to illegal downloading or peer-to-peer distribution of intellectual property as well as a plan to explore technology-based deterrents to prevent such illegal activity.

    See how your representative voted. [house.gov]

    Even so... IMHO this still opens the door to more Orwellian legislation, and provides further evidence of how industry pwnes our government.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08, 2008 @06:28PM (#22355036)
    You're correct that that's the bill, although there's the question of whether "we plan to do nothing" is actually a plan per the legal meaning of the bill. This includes not only the legal meaning of words (lawyers have Black's Law Dictionary to list the extra meaning of otherwise ordinary words), but the intent of Congress and a number of other things. Clearly, the point of this bill is that universities should have a plan and that that plan should be to stop infringement by students and offer legal P2P alternatives. Moreover, there wouldn't be much point in offering an amendment to clarify it if it was clear, and you can see that one was, in fact, offered. The person who offered it gave an excuse involving their travel schedule en and you'll see that the Ars story links to their prior article. I'm pretty sure that I submitted it to Slashdot, too.

    You see, I don't believe in imaginary property.
  • by Palpitations ( 1092597 ) * on Friday February 08, 2008 @06:41PM (#22355190)

    Yeah blizzard uses a patcher that functions much like BitTorrent.
    It is BitTorrent, with HTTP to fall back on if needed. The patch downloader is a BT client with the .torrent file built in. It's trivial to extract the .torrent and use a client of your choice - and in my experience I get much better download speeds as well (see this (BASH) [dbservice.com] or this (perl) [progenitus.com] or this (python) [pastebin.com] or this (Win executable) for examples). [capnbry.net]
  • by Catbeller ( 118204 ) on Friday February 08, 2008 @06:50PM (#22355302) Homepage
    "Anyone else besides me think the SCOTUS would wipe that particular provision off the books the moment that Harvard, Yale, et. al go to war with the RIAA?"

    Not this SCOTUS. Bush loaded that quite well with pro-business judges. Young ones, too, so they'll be a probem for a half century or even more. Do not look for relief from the Imaginary Property crowd from those five. Reference Lawrence Lessig's noble attempt to void the 100+ year copyright by pointing out it was effectively eternal and thus violating the Constitution's design to release works into the public domain. The court's majority - not just Bushies, either -- stated that since the 100 years was a finite time period, the lockup was not technically eternal thus not violating the concept of release to the public domain. The sane counter that in 100 years time our descendants would not even understand what public domain was anymore, or that the future law would simply add another 100+ years, was lost on their ears. They are pro-business and pro-Imaginary Property.
  • by tepples ( 727027 ) <tepples@gmai l . com> on Friday February 08, 2008 @07:08PM (#22355508) Homepage Journal

    ...is that the schools would be required to promote "legal alternatives" for music to students, i.e. iTunes, Napster and the like. Most universities already monitor their network to curb file sharing. But the university being forced to push commercial services on students is way over the line.
    Who said they have to be commercial services? The plan could start with Michael Crawford's list [goingware.com].
  • Re:Stupid laws (Score:3, Informative)

    by Creepy Crawler ( 680178 ) on Friday February 08, 2008 @07:11PM (#22355530)
    ---1) the destination address will have very clear patterns (obviously)

    As bandwidth in/output rises, CPU time to investigate packets rises rather fast. It's easy with 1 or 10 hosts, but you start playing with N students where N = 50000... And as long as the source and destination know who is who, packets can then be munged heavily to hide the source, along with other TCP/IP tricks.

    ---2) the bandwidth

    That's the reason for encryption. Plausible deniability.

    3) put you behind nat

    And as SKYPE and others have shown, NAT only makes a problem a bit harder, not impossible. I'm right now behind a NAT using bittorrent. I'm still getting 200 KBps down and 75KBps up (max for this connection is 310KBps down/125KBps up).

    ---Furthermore ... this would require YOU to redesign (and market) a successfull p2p application ... every month orso (or every day once symantec starts paying people to update their filters)

    As for data inspection, the data would be encrypted within a standard HTML page, with configurable tags to simulate real websites. It would not be hard to have a handshaking that agrees upon say, 10 unique websites and use that schematic for the session (there's plenty of techniques one could agree to share hidden data, I'm just stating a basic one). Really, how much bandwidth would the overhead take to hide what you're doing, along with encryption?

    Do you actually think that the tags would be static? Hardly... rotate them as if they were real websites: polymorphic data encoding. Yum ;)
  • by WillAffleckUW ( 858324 ) on Friday February 08, 2008 @07:16PM (#22355580) Homepage Journal
    And the Bush restrictions are out the window once he's President, along with $4000 a year for college students who sign up to work in hospitals or the peace corps.

    So I wouldn't worry about the privacy restrictions being in effect for very long.

    Think someone may have YouTubed it - I was there for three hours and just got back.
  • Re:GOOD (Score:3, Informative)

    by budword ( 680846 ) on Friday February 08, 2008 @11:06PM (#22357250)
    The problem isn't that anyone here gives a shit if college students download music that they haven't paid the copyright holder for. No one cares. What everyone does care about is that a business with a dying business model has bought enough congress critters to pass a law that can fuck up someones education for the sake of propping up said dying business model. If the music industry can do, so can or industry with enough money to buy off the "peoples representatives". Get a clue buddy.
  • Re:Not really a win. (Score:2, Informative)

    by will.murnane ( 791409 ) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @12:34AM (#22357710)
    *descending whistle*


    Have you read the FAQ on archive.org's hardware setup [archive.org]? Their goal, just for a start, is "one system administrator per petabyte". That amount of storage is not trivial, and suggesting one copy per university is a little overzealous. The Archive has three petabytes online; that's thirty racks the way they do it.

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