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crimeandpunishment writes "More proof of the profound impact cable, the Internet, and other outlets have had on broadcast news organizations. CBS and CNN, who have danced around the idea of a partnership for years, may be ready to move forward. Both news organizations have a lot at stake. Broadcast network news has a gloomy financial outlook, and CNN's ratings need a jump-start."
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CBS and CNN Could Be Making News Together

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  • by NaCh0 (6124) on Thursday May 06, 2010 @03:06AM (#32108944)

    Larry King guest starring on 60 Minutes.

    No Thanks. I'll keep my dial set to the hotties and relevant commentators on FoxNews.

  • News (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Spad (470073) <slashdot@noSpam.spad.co.uk> on Thursday May 06, 2010 @03:08AM (#32108952) Homepage

    Maybe CNN could start reporting actual news instead of relying on their viewers to tweet "interesting" information about the latest celebrity breakups so they can read it out on air.

    • Re:News (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 06, 2010 @03:33AM (#32109022)
      "And we're back. I'm Anderson Cooper, and this is AC 360. Before the break we asked our viewers what they thought of the Obama administration's response to the oil disaster."

      Pwnface69: Obama is gr8 n I think it we have a black president

      "That's a good point. Good input. Let's bring up an opposing view."

      RedNeckBeck72: oblama blew up the rig himself and acorn for the stopping drilling cus global warming scam

      BushLiedKidsDied: it was bush fault lobbyists and haliburton made backdoor deals

      "Quite a diverse array of opinions we have here. Next up, what is the Achilles' Heel of elephants? The answer may surprise you. Stay tuned."
      • "And we're back. I'm Anderson Cooper, and this is AC 360. Before the break we asked our viewers what they thought of the Obama administration's response to the oil disaster."

        Pwnface69: Obama is gr8 n I think it we have a black president

        "That's a good point. Good input. Let's bring up an opposing view."

        RedNeckBeck72: oblama blew up the rig himself and acorn for the stopping drilling cus global warming scam

        BushLiedKidsDied: it was bush fault lobbyists and haliburton made backdoor deals

        "Quite a diverse array of opinions we have here. Next up, what is the Achilles' Heel of elephants? The answer may surprise you. Stay tuned."

        Quite. There is one upside though, it gives Jon Stewart plenty of material, and makes it possible to watch The Daily Show without having to sit through so much footage from Fox News.

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by prisma (1038806)
      I agree with this. Their move toward engaging the less serious folks alienates those of us who are interested in proper news reports. What's also annoying to me is how their Headline News channel seem to be increasingly populated by talk shows. Is there really not enough news going on around the world to report on for 24hrs a day or do their bean counters simply deem it to be too expensive? I'm guessing also that they believe a less casual pop-news format would increase CNN's viewership.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Spad (470073)

        When you primarily limit yourselves to news stories that occur within the US it makes it that much more difficult to fill 24 hours with actual news.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by jellomizer (103300)

          There is a lot of news that happends in the United States that can make a good 24 hour plan. However the fact is that CNN is trying to get the most audence. So they are filling it with entertainment flufff. And the meaningless comentaries that just get people routing for them or going online to critize them.

        • CNN has a sister station called CNNi which focuses on international news stories. Sadly, most of the American public is more concerned about Tiger Woods nailing a Perkins waitress than whether or not genocide is occuring in Kenya.

          My concern is that CNN used to be the one network I trusted. They showed both sides. They seperated headline/news shows from opinion shows. I saw a story during the 1996 Olympics where CNN (owned by Ted Turner) ratted out their boss for rounding up homeless and forcibly removing th

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by Shakrai (717556)

            However, CNN fell to third in ratings behind MSNBC and Fox News, proving that the American public prefer to be spoon-fed biased opinion shows that they know they'll agree with.

            I'm sure that's part of it, but speaking for myself I stopped watching CNN because they replaced hard news coverage with gimmicks like iReport, floating pie charts and Star Wars holonet knock offs.

            The only serious American television newscast that's left is the PBS Newshour.

        • This is a huge misunderstanding of what the hell the 24 hour news cycle means.

          news organizations really need to fill about 8 to 10 hours of news programming and the rest is taken up by commentary(or in MSNBC's case, commentary and ZOMG PRISON)

      • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        What's also annoying to me is how their Headline News channel seem to be increasingly populated by talk shows.

        FWIW - Fox had Rupert Murdoch on the other day as a commentator on the dufus car bombing incident. As if *HE* were some sort of expert on terrorism.
        Of course all he did was mouth the same old fear-mongering bullshit, but I have yet to see CNN interview Ted Turner for his expert opinion on anything - gossip or otherwise.

    • Re:News (Score:5, Interesting)

      by vtcodger (957785) on Thursday May 06, 2010 @03:56AM (#32109088)

      ***Maybe CNN could start reporting actual news***

      Is there anyone there who knows how to do that? It's a little hard to envision any of the CNN "reporters" pulling a Mika Brzezinski and refusing to read the latest pop-culture garbage.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1556022/Paris-Hilton-script-screwed-up-burnt-and-shredded.html [telegraph.co.uk]

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by dcw3 (649211)

        Mod Parent/GP UP!

        We have CNN in our cafeteria at work, and it sickens me to see nothing but "entertainment news". I really don't give a shit what Paris, Lindsey, Madonna, Brad, J-Lo, and the rest of them had for breakfast.

        Until one of these "news" organizations gets it, I'll be reading mine online.

      • Wow, I've never seen that before. Those two guys around her are total, utter douchebags. I feel like a nice beatdown would shut them up for a good while. They're just cowardly bullies picking on a woman who actually has some integrity. If these are the people reporting the news these days, it's no wonder things have become so bad.
      • Keith Olbermann quit MSNBC in the 90's over the Lewinski scandal(yes, to return to MSNBC with Countdown)

        But this is why I honestly watch MSNBC. If it's the inverse of Fox, it's not because of political biases, it's over the control they exert on their on air talent(Seriously, if MSNBC had a liberal bias, they would've drawn and quartered michael savage instead of you know, giving him a show).

        No one else on cable news covered The Family, the secretive religious organization that's got it's roots deep everyw

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by Vancorps (746090)
          Rachel Maddow gets away with a lot of surprising stuff. She's unapologetic and out in the open about her biases which I also like. Fox tries to hide it pretending to be fair and balanced. I'll take honesty anyday. Of course CNN is just a joke of its former self. I don't know if you caught the coverage of the tsunami heading for Hawaii, I have a cousin that lives there so we were checking up on the news while it was happening. I found it better just to go online to get my info and CNN was too busy sensationa
        • by operagost (62405)

          Seriously, if MSNBC had a liberal bias, they would've drawn and quartered michael savage instead of you know, giving him a show

          Fox News has Alan Colmes, Juan Williams, and Geraldo Rivera-- just off the top of my head. O'Reilly has regular correspondents on his show who are left-of-center, but I don't watch that often. So does this mean Fox News isn't biased?

        • by cayenne8 (626475)
          "If it's the inverse of Fox, it's not because of political biases..."

          If? If?

          LOL..oh c'mon, it is freakin' obvious they ARE the anti-Fox news. Look at that Ed show, and Oblermann, good Lord, I think I've actually witnessed him spitting saliva while looking bug-eyed going on some of his rants against the right, and even against what I'd consider the middle. If it ain't positive about Obama, he can get absolutely livid. I've not actually seen that level of vitriol come out of the biggest right winger on F

          • LOL..oh c'mon, it is freakin' obvious they ARE the anti-Fox news. Look at that Ed show, and Oblermann, good Lord, I think I've actually witnessed him spitting saliva while looking bug-eyed going on some of his rants against the right, and even against what I'd consider the middle. If it ain't positive about Obama, he can get absolutely livid. I've not actually seen that level of vitriol come out of the biggest right winger on Fox.

            You mean, Alan Keyes, Michael Savage, Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough and Pat Buchanan are liberals?

            Also, have you even watched Olbermann's show when he was going on about health care?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Shivetya (243324)

      Wait, the C doesn't stand for Celebrity?

      I can handle the HLN format, it at least is quick and you know when there is news and when there is fluff based on the time. CNN is to news what MTV is to music videos, sure they have it but it seems to not be the focus. Fox is too flashy and the networks are too slanted to provide reporting. The state of broadcast news has forced many of us to use the internet sources that gather it all up in one area (google news is my primary but I will bounce to Drudge for fun)

    • Re:News (Score:5, Informative)

      by Carewolf (581105) on Thursday May 06, 2010 @06:11AM (#32109576) Homepage

      CNN does have real news, but for some reason it is limited to the international editions. CNN Europe, while nowhere near BBC World, it is an actual news network, and if you go to the CNN website you can choose between American and International version. Switching back and forth on the CNN website is an intersting eye-opener in what kind of stories they run, and which they ignore.

      • Just a couple of years ago, you wouldn't have seen any program on CNN US with any reporter's name in it.

        They used to have a policy that stated they'd have no celebrity reporters, à la MSNBC. Somewhere along the way that policy changed. I don't know the reasoning behind the change, though. Now we've got Anderson Cooper, Amanpour, Zakaria, etc.

  • CNNCBS (Score:3, Funny)

    by MichaelSmith (789609) on Thursday May 06, 2010 @03:43AM (#32109060) Homepage Journal

    Ha! Its coming true [wikipedia.org].

  • by EWAdams (953502) on Thursday May 06, 2010 @03:56AM (#32109090) Homepage
    If they really want to retain viewers, they might... I dunno... try actual journalism and integrity. It worked for Walt.
    • CNN was probably the best network when it came to journalism and integrity initially, and then Fox News and MSNBC trashed CNN in the ratings. Now they'll do anything to catch up.

      Tabloids are the best selling newspapers in the world. Since when did journalism and integrity sell?

  • CBS news = NNS (Score:3, Informative)

    by martin (1336) <maxsec.gmail@com> on Thursday May 06, 2010 @03:58AM (#32109104) Journal

    Funny 'cos CBS joined up with ABC and Fox News Channel to create the Network news Service in response to CNN over 20 years ago.

    If this goes ahead the USA will have 1 big news service for TV news - maybe some sort of competition commission might block this?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by tnok85 (1434319)
      Doubtful. They'd just organize it as a 'government regulated monopoly' in the best interest of the viewers. Then they could make sure that we only get the news we need.
    • Re:CBS news = NNS (Score:5, Informative)

      by tepples (727027) <<tepples> <at> <gmail.com>> on Thursday May 06, 2010 @05:02AM (#32109274) Homepage Journal

      If this goes ahead the USA will have 1 big news service for TV news

      We already do. The only major TV news source that doesn't share a parent company with a U.S. movie studio [slashdot.org] is the Public Broadcasting Service.

      • by dcw3 (649211)

        We already do. The only major TV news source that doesn't share a parent company with a U.S. movie studio [slashdot.org] is the Public Broadcasting Service.

        Ah, maybe that explains why we have to hear about the American Idol "news".

      • We already do. The only major TV news source that doesn't share a parent company with a U.S. movie studio is the Public Broadcasting Service.

        What do movies have to do with the News?

        I mean, other than the bizarre fixation with MPAA the /. crowd has?

        I mean, Fuck the MPAA, they're evil, but, there's a lot going on in the world than just movies and TV.

        • What do movies have to do with the News?

          TV news tends to bury stories about legislation that helps the movie studios more than it helps the end users. Think back to 1998: did any channel show a balanced report on the Copyright Term Extension Act and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act? And how many channels have run a story about ACTA?

          • Maybe ACTA and the DMCA aren't that important to everyone aside from geeks?

            • Copyright legislation is important to anyone who wants to make fair use of a copyrighted work. This includes time- and place-shifting, de minimis use in another work, use in parody or other criticism of a work, etc. And this includes far more than geeks.
              • But what would you do with the other 23 hours of news coverage? Copyright legislation just isn't that important to the average viewer.

                • by tepples (727027)

                  But what would you do with the other 23 hours of news coverage?

                  "Headline news" shows, like MSNBC Live, America's News HQ on Fox News, and News and Views on HLN, typically repeat the same set of stories each hour. After a major milestone in a copyright legislation issue, such as the ACTA leaks or the first official ACTA draft, I'd expect maybe a 60 second story, leaving the rest of the newscast for something else. The problem is that the MPAA-channels don't even give that.

  • by L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) on Thursday May 06, 2010 @04:04AM (#32109114)
    Fabricate.
  • by Conspire (102879) on Thursday May 06, 2010 @04:07AM (#32109126) Homepage
    This is very heartwarming. It is about time we had some media consolidation. It will surely help remove the bias stemming from the extremely fragmented ownership and production base of the mainstream media of today.........
  • CBS and CNN Could Be Making News Together

    When things go wrong, journos are quick to point out that they only report what is happening. That's the academic theory they've been taught, in any case.

  • by jgreco (1542031) on Thursday May 06, 2010 @04:58AM (#32109258)

    A large percentage of the links off the CNN homepage these days are to the ireport web site, and they don't even differentiate them anymore like they used to. As a general rule, I don't care to see amateur news reporting, and this has been one reason I've used CNN less lately. I'd rather have less news but have it be high quality.

  • "More proof of the profound impact cable, the Internet, and other outlets have had on broadcast news organizations..."

    The fact that their hard news as well as their editorial/opinion shows/segments have also become increasingly-shameless cheerleaders for the Progressive agenda and the Obama administration has also heavily contributed to their viewership losses as ever-larger numbers of people look elsewhere for more objective sources.

    Strat

    • by drinkypoo (153816)

      The fact that their hard news as well as their editorial/opinion shows/segments have also become increasingly-shameless cheerleaders for the Progressive agenda and the Obama administration has also heavily contributed to their viewership losses as ever-larger numbers of people look elsewhere for more objective sources.

      The fact that their hard news as well as their editorial/opinion shows/segments also became increasingly-shameless cheerleaders for the Conservative agenda and the Bush administration also heavily contributed to their viewership losses as ever-larger numbers of people looked elsewhere for more objective sources.

      I just had a skin-crawl moment. Try this with me: Click on the first google result for "top ten media conglomerates [google.com]". Now go try and look it up on the wayback machine. I'll be patient. Most sites don

      • Modded -1, overrated so that no adjective appears next to my comment's score, in an attempt to be sneaky — some people check out negative moderations to see who is doing what, after all. How much do you get for that line of work? I note that I've picked up another couple of Overrated mods elsewhere on comments which otherwise have overwhelmingly positive moderation. Stop following me around, douche.

      • by mixmasta (36673)

        Wonder why they took it down? Would make a great source on an article I'm writing on media misinformation.

        Wikipedia says they are a non-profit lefty mag, so obvious corporate meddling isn't an obvious motive.

    • You must not actually watch CNN.

  • Good luck to them (Score:5, Insightful)

    by davmoo (63521) on Thursday May 06, 2010 @05:50AM (#32109496)

    I hope they succeed at making news by merging, because they sure as hell can't report it. Using the words "journalism" and "CNN" in the same sentence has got to be the oxymoron of the year. And CBS isn't that much better any more.

    • With their combine number of people watching either, who cares? Evidently not the American public with what ratings they are generating. Maybe Soros will come and buy both networks so he has his propaganda machine in tact.

    • The headline is misleading, it should read "CBS and CNN Could Be Making Up News Together."
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      I have to disagree. IMHO, out of the 3 major cable news networks (CNN, Fox, MSNBC), CNN is the best, and appears to try to report news without a liberal or conservative slant. The problem is that unbiased news is BORING! It's much more entertaining to watch Maddow duke it out with Beck. And so their ratings are horrible.

      That's not to say CNN isn't a horrible network with way too much time spent on mindless drivel, but they are the best of the worst major cable news outlets.

      It's sad, but one of the b
      • News networks are stupid. They always fill up with crap because good reporting takes too much time and/or money while gossiping about celebs (ugh) is cheap and quick. Trying to fill 24 hours of news without using news from the entire world is just fucking moronic.

      • I have watched all three networks (side by side) for several hours at a time. I find more real news reporting on FOX every hour than the other two combined. When watching news information FOX is far less biased. They are showing all sides. The pundits are definitely more conservative and intellectual than the other two combined as well.
  • Do we just pull the plug?

    Broadcast "news" consumes some extraordinarily valuable spectrum, a resource fairly tightly limited by the laws of physics. We have historically suffered it to do so because of its perceived value to our democratic society. If, however, it cannot demonstrate that value, there are much better things we could be doing with that scarce and valuable spectrum...
    • by dcw3 (649211)

      Do we just pull the plug?

      Broadcast "news" consumes some extraordinarily valuable spectrum, a resource fairly tightly limited by the laws of physics. We have historically suffered it to do so because of its perceived value to our democratic society. If, however, it cannot demonstrate that value, there are much better things we could be doing with that scarce and valuable spectrum...

      While I'm not a fan of the current network "news", I can't believe you think there's not enough spectrum space for them, unless you want to pull the home shopping network, cartoon network, etc., all at once. What's in such dire need of bandwidth, that can't fit in?

    • by jfengel (409917)

      CNN, at least, is not consuming any spectrum. The "C" stands for "cable".

      The broadcast spectrum is not as limited as it used to be. Between the switch to digital broadcasting and most viewers switching away from over-the-air altogether, broadcast news is certainly anachronistic. But evening newscasts from the Big Three are still viewed by 20 million people per night, and that's a pretty considerable chunk.

      CBS is the least of them, but 5 million people a night still watch it. That's only a quarter of Ame

  • Yes, it is sooo expensive to make news..Who cares, it is the MSM, it is all weaksauce propagande anyway.
  • New name? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Briareos (21163) * on Thursday May 06, 2010 @07:23AM (#32109936)

    So are they going to call it "CNNBS"?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by BlindSpot (512363)

      So are they going to call it "CNNBS"?

      That would be appropriate, since CNN has been spewing nothing but BS for years now.

  • folks:

    there was never a fabled era where news media was unbiased or high quality. look up the term "yellow journalism" from a century ago. the spanish american war was started with the "bombing" of the uss maine in havana that was just as much bullshit as iraq's supposed nuclear program. the newspaper "reporting" from a century ago makes fox faux news blatant warmongering agenda look like amateur hour

    additionally, there never will be such a thing as unbiased news media. ever. here. in russia. in china. in e

  • by brxndxn (461473) on Thursday May 06, 2010 @08:09AM (#32110318)

    That's the problem. CNN cares about ratings. That means they care about the short term at the expense of their reputation as a viable news organization.

    Here's a quick fact for all of you TV executives: YOUR RATINGS ARE GOING DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE MORE OPTIONS. Quit trying to build this 'one size fits all morons' news channel and start actually reporting news. Hollywood gossip belongs on the Entertainment channel. Quick one-liners and talking heads belong on the Commentary channel. Crazy banners trying to get me all worked up over the world's dumbest terrorist (ya.. that guy from Pakistan recently) belong on the Fear channel. Instead, CNN includes all these things and then calls it the News channel. Seriously? CNN, right now, you are stupider than your audience. You target an audience of stupid people with even stupider content. Even stupid people want to get smarter.

    Right now, if you watched CNN all day 24/7, you would not know who your lawmakers are, you would not know which countries are where or what their political system is, understand any non-simplistic political or social situations, understand social and market changes or direction, hear more than a single sentence from a single person at a time without her being interrupted, hear about any real dirt or corruption involved with any affiliated corporation, or understand the real 'world situation.' So, it's entertainment - not news.

    And, you talking head assholes (that's pretty much every CNN reporter except Jack Cafferty), IT'S NOT YOUR FUCKING JOB TO SET THE AGENDA FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Quit trying to tell people how to think. Quit identifying any political candidates as 'non-viable' or 'a longshot' or 'fringe' before you talk about them without letting people decide for themselves. Quit having opinions on everything. Quit being condescending to less educated people trying to make a difference in less affluent areas. Quit fabricating shit out of nothing - If there was a device that people thought was a bomb, but was determined not to be a bomb, don't report that it was a bomb! Quit talking only about buzzword political issues like abortion, gun control, and prayer in schools - like they are the only political problems facing the US. Quit wasting our time.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by drinkypoo (153816)

      IT'S NOT YOUR FUCKING JOB TO SET THE AGENDA FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

      Ten media conglomerates own about 95% of the media in the USA and over 50% of the media in the world. CNN is owned by Time Warner, the world's second largest entertainment conglomerate.[1] These corporations have been telling Americans who they may vote for at least since the first media conglomerates were permitted to exist. IIRC this had to do with J.P. Morgan, but I'm short on citations right now. In any case, it is the media's job to set the agenda for the American people. They don't work for the people

  • 0+0 does not equal one (viewer). These two media outlets need to team up with something successful in order to survive. Just look how XM/Sirius has done since their merger.
  • Hey! who is the wise guy who put !newsfornerds as a tag for this story?...

    Maybe it is a sign of the times when two historically big news organizations coming together is no longer nerdy enough for people to watch or care about.....or discuss..

  • That psychic at Lisa's Wedding wasn't far off! This partnership means we're halfway towards CNNBCBS (A Division of ABC).

  • I would love to see the Pangea Report with Howard Handupme, or Edward R Hero.

    Maybe even break between programming with a Muppet News Flash.

  • When Ron Paul is on cable news networks, and starts talking about the 1953 Coup de tat, he is cut off immediately and they break to commercial. Both Fox and CNN are guilty of this. I don't believe that we have Freedom of the Press in this country for that reason and many others. We have New York Times reporters thrown in jail for leaking information that can hurt the administration.

    We need the country to wake their brain dead asses up and do a little bit of research rather than just following the tal
  • Let's see...

    CBS News is in the ratings tank, despite paying buckets of money to people like Katie Couric, one of the worst "news reporters" in television history. No one is watching there.

    CNN's prime-time news show ratings are routinely beaten by cable infomercials shown at three in the morning. Nothing there either.

    So, they're going to merge and hope this raises ratings?

    What could possibly go wrong?

  • Both had a point in time when their names meant something good, now

    "It's a Sony" and "This is CNN" only server as warning labels.

    And a merger? I'm sure it'll work out as well as MSNBC has, if you're going for
    two single digit viewer-ships, one might actually make it to double digits.

  • Liberal Rag (Score:1, Flamebait)

    by codepunk (167897)

    All of these news organizations need to remove the political slant from the reporting. Every since CNN turned into a liberal rag I quit watching it.

  • Who watches CBS news? I don't know a sole who does.
  • CNN has more to gain from this than CBS. I've completely stopped watching CNN because it's become nothing more than a 24hr version of Entertainment Tonight, with its constant coverage of goings-on in the celebrity world. Maybe a partnership with CBS will inject some serious journalism once more.
  • At least someone gets that all main stream news is made up.

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