Journalist Tricked Captors Into Twitter Access 141
itwbennett writes "Kosuke Tsuneoka, a Japanese freelance journalist held captive in Afghanistan since April 1, was released over the weekend. His freedom came a day after he sent two Twitter messages from a captor's phone. 'i am still allive [sic], but in jail,' read a message sent at 1:15 p.m. GMT on Friday. It was followed a few minutes later with a second message, also in English, that read, 'here is archi in kunduz. in the jail of commander lativ.' The message referred to the Dasht-e-Archi district of Kunduz where he was being held. On Tuesday, speaking in Tokyo, Tsuneoka revealed how he managed to convince his captors to give him access to the Internet. 'He asked me if I knew how to use it, so I had a look and explained it to him,' said Tsuneoka. 'I called the customer care number and activated the phone,' he said."
Jedi-ish (Score:3, Funny)
"I don't think they realize they were tricked," he said.
The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.
Re:Jedi-ish (Score:4, Funny)
Spaceballs-ish.
Evil will always triumph over good. Because good is dumb.
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So Japanese journalists are evil, and Taliban soldiers are good?
I don't think you thought this one through .....
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I don't think you've watched Spaceballs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7XVcqZodAM [youtube.com]
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I did. I don't think you read my comment.
step 2 missing (Score:2, Funny)
Step 1: Tweet
Step 2: ???
Step 3: FREEDOM!
Re:step 2 missing (Score:4, Informative)
Re:step 2 missing (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, it says "in part" because he was a Muslim. Probably more in part due to the Japanese government knowing exactly where he was being held so they could apply pressure accordingly. It's not random that a guy goes missing on April 1st, makes a few help me tweets on September 3rd and is then released a day or so later.
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Maybe we're mixing up cause and effect? Maybe they decided they were going to release him, and one of the captors said, "Hey, he seems to know a lot about this Internet stuff. Before we let him go, can I see if he can get the Internet working on my phone?"
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I thought of this after my post, this is also a good possibility.
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I hope his experience taught him something about Islam.
That not all Muslims are the same? Yeah, that must be it.
And there's a red under my bed... (Score:2)
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Kidnapping journalists you explicitly know are "innocent" (indeed not even accused of anything) because you want a ransom, and kidnapping suspected terrorists who may be innocent because you want information and/or to get a terrorist off the streets... I don't see how they're similar policies. Can you explain what you mean by policy? I mean with your analogy it seems like legitimate law enforcement arrests would also be a similar policy.
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More steps (Score:2)
Step 1: Download gay porn to phone
Step 2: Accuse phone owner of homosexuality.
Step 3: Volunteer to clean up the phone while your captors stone the phone owner.
Step 4: Read up on slashdot, dilbert, check facebook, solve an online sudoku, you have plenty of time (stoning is damn slow).
Step 5: Tweet your location
Step 6: ???
Step 7: FREEDOM!
Twitter, instead of (Score:1)
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Twitter, instead of, you know, email. Because it's more likely to be real.
Or maybe, and I know this may be hard to realize for those of us who have had smartphones for years and years, it was just a standard, plain vanilla cell phone capable of only sms and phone calls.
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According to TFA, it was a Nokia N70.
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RTFA - it was a Symbian smartphone (Score:2)
The phone, a Nokia N70
That's a Symbian smartphone. Disclaimer: this info was based off what the journalist said.
There seems to be a lot of doubt spreading 'round. I'm not sure what motives there are, however. The Afghani scumbag certainly didn't have any motive to play along with the stunt.
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If you can browse the web, you can send e-mail. There are enough of web-to-mail gateways out there, many of which only requires you to enter a captcha in order to prove you're not a spam bot.
Not to mention that lots of government agencies have web forms for providing feedback. Even the Japanese government, I'm sure.
Plus, there are plenty of services that allow you to post without logging in, and far more than SMS length messages too. This would be one such place.
(Never mind that a real cry for help here
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If you can browse the web, you can send e-mail.
But I can't. The phone supports it, the account doesn't.
Re:Twitter, instead of (Score:4, Insightful)
Beyond the obvious fact that he may not have a web mail account, Twitter is a pretty smart choice. He was trying to broadcast to the world that he was alive. If he quickly sent an email to one or two people, it could have been lost or overlooked in a dozen ways. By getting a tweet through he was assured that all of his followers would see it.
I'd say he may have found the one instance where tweeting is actually a really good idea.
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By getting a tweet through he was assured that all of his followers would see it.
I'd say he may have found the one instance where tweeting is actually a really good idea.
There's an interesting use of the word "assured". It's a good job his followers weren't using Tweetdeck or he'd still be in jail. Tweetdeck has an amazing ability to hide tweets from the user there's no "assured" about Tweetdeck.
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Good explanation. I could imagine his family's spam folder being filled with
X Not Spam -- Get fr33 v1@gr@ n0w!
X Not Spam -- i am still allive, but in jail
X Not Spam -- She w@nt your r0d!
X Not Spam -- here is archi in kunduz. in the jail of commander lativ.
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Yes, when you get a hold of some guy's phone for a couple minutes, you are going to set up your email account, log in, remember the email addresses of your friends, and send them mail.
Or you can go on twitter and leave a message that all your followers will see. And no, if you have been missing for months and suddenly post a message, they are not going to think "nah, this is twitter, it's probably fake, we'll just ignore this".
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Twitter, instead of email as it needs to be sent via SMS rather then GRPS/WAP which likely does not have coverage in Afghanistan's southern cave region. Yes, they are services by AT&T too.
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Or to every address in my contact list.
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Oh come one, SOMEONE is bound to have hotmail.
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From the article:
"But if you are going to do anything, you should use Twitter," he said he told them. "They asked what that was. And I told them that if you write something on it, then you can reach many Japanese journalists. So they said, 'try it'."
"I don't think they realize they were tricked," he said.
I think he either thought Twitter had the highest chance of success based on his circumstances or he just saw his window of opportunity closing and said the first thing that popped into his head.
bad move by captors (Score:1)
Welcome home, Tsuneoka-san. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Let's hope all terrorists/insurgents are as gullible or as stupid as these guys.
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Ignorance makes you much more gullible.
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I say, let's hope more of them get exposed to the Internet and the wider world in general because that tends to (though not always!) curb extremism.
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The guard did something under the pretense that the prisoner was doing something helpful for him.
That is stupid and/or gullible.
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I say, let's hope more of them get exposed to the Internet and the wider world in general because that tends to (though not always!) curb extremism.
Not really, it doesn't. If you remember those studies in UK, the second generation of Muslim immigrants was both more outwardly westernized (clothing, behavior, use of modern tech), and much more radicalized than their parent (I think it was 25% saying that they support al-Qaeda?). The Net may expose you to a multitude of opinions, but people are very good at ignoring all but those that tell them what they like to hear; and Islamic extremism has mastered the art of propaganda very, very well.
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It does both.
Some people embrace the new, the foreign, the unknown, and eagerly incorporate it into their own identity. At least partially.
Others see it as threatening, dangerous, a temptation to be resisted, and react by withdrawing, becoming more fundamentalist.
I tend to think isolation and failed integration is the largest enabler for the latter. Too many may live -in- the west physically, but nevertheless have a parallell society with little actual integration. Live in their own areas, go to their own s
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The youth have always been radical in one form or other. It may seem contraditionary, but it is simply them trying to findd their own place in a very confused world.
In other news (Score:3, Insightful)
Youth is more radical then their parents... youth just tend to the get confused about what radical means.
Radical ain't limited to the right... or even the left. Radical just means being extreme in your views. Unable to see the others point of view, convinced your point of view is not only the right one but everyone who disagrees is therefor wrong and unworthy of being listened to.
Youthful muslims are indeed more radical then their parents. BOTH ways. Some are strongly against the culture they got from hom
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Go to any university and you will find plenty of extremes and very few moderates.
I've had experiences with 3 universities. One of them, a very expensive private women's college (Wellesley) was as you say, more radical than moderate in many political respects. The other two (state schools) were by far more moderate than extreme, unless you're counting irrelevant things like "how much do you support your team vs. Duke". For the 500 people who go to various political events on the quad and are screaming and shouting about some nonsense, there are thousands and thousands who don't even live
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Well, you probably don't know how to butcher a goat, either
Fortunately, there are web sites [goatse.fr] that teach you that...
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Well, you probably don't know how to butcher a goat, either - "gullibility" and "stupidity" are largely contextual.
Butchering a goat isn't exactly rocket science - if I picked a random person off the street and gave them a knife, they'd at least achieve the desired result even if they displayed poor technique. Getting tricked into letting a prisoner contact the outside world, on the other hand, is both gullible and stupid. In the extreme.
On the other hand, since they apparently released the guy the next day, they may simply not have cared who he contacted. The summary only seemed interesting at first because I assume
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Please have lots of grandkids and then tell them about this repeatedly.
Tsuneoka: "Back in my day, we only tweeted when we needed rescuing from being a POW!"
Grandkids "I'm looking at your twitter archive right now. '1/1/2010 LOL, so drunk right now, I can't believe I signed up for TWITTER!'"
Tsuneoka: "Right. Drunk. Clearly an effort to ward off being captured by islamic militants."
Okay, but... (Score:4, Interesting)
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And yeah, I know what they say about assumptions but there is such a thing as a safe one.
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Perhaps his twitter friends did not know where he was, but another article mentions that there had been already five months of negotiations between the government and his captors for release. It also mentions that he was released due to being a muslim.
In light of that, Occam's Razor suggests that the simplest possible explanation is that those more reasonable and actionable events lead to his release.
-dZ.
Tweet had no influence on release (Score:2)
...how was he actually rescued? I see correlation between his tweets and his release but no causation.
Its just a coincidence that someone who was released had previously sent out a tweet. My understanding from reading elsewhere (yahoo news) is that the ransom was *not* paid. However since the victim was a muslim the kidnappers felt they could not kill him, so they let him go.
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He really shouldn't have disclosed the Twitter connection. Now the terrorists won't let anyone touch a phone!
Please stop (Score:4, Funny)
Mr. Tsuneoka, the last thing we need is more confusion about the Internet, especially amongst new users. Please stop spreading misinformation, and apologize to those you've misled! In the future, give only meaningful, accurate information to help users understand what's going on. Explain that Twitter is a social network that allows users to reach many the general public, rather than just journalists. Help educate the world!
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You first, when you get kidnapped.
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Woosh!
Another jailbreak on another smartphone... (Score:2, Funny)
And to think so many people devalue the benefits of jailbreaking...
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In Soviet Russia, phone jailbreaks you!
...would have been a really good joke if it had been anywhere other than bloody Afghanistan.
And they say Customer Service isn't any help... (Score:2)
Oh, and you losers in Gurgaon...
Thanks! Good job! We love ya!
Ha! (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes, I find it humorous that some Taliban soldiers don't actually know what the internet is.
It makes me wonder about all the other modern advancements they are unaware of. Space craft? Aircraft carriers? Oprah? No wonder they are so willing to fight a war against enemies who have such vast amounts of technology at their disposal. If they knew how disadvantaged they were, maybe they would just stop.
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If you have an absolute, unwavering belief that God blesses your fight and guides your hand, and whatever shiny toys your opponents may enjoy are poisonous gifts of Satan that can only lead one to destruction and hell, why would you ever stop, even if it's an AK vs an aircraft carrier? For one thing, if God is with you, then surely the AK is good enough to win - when the time is right - and for another, the worst-case scenario is that you die and end up in heaven (and the bastard that killed you is stuck he
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Ah, if only it worked that way.
I've heard a story about Chechnya, that local Wahhabi terrorists consider underwear un-Islamic because it was not worn in Prophet's times by him or any of his followers. So, they take it, there might be no harm in it, but they cannot be sure - so they don't wear it. And then one Russian journalist noted that Prophet's army didn't have AKs, either, but somehow that doesn't make a connection.
Re:Ha! (Score:4, Informative)
except that his captors weren't Taliban but a group of corrupt local warlords trying to stir the taliban government.
this is from his tweet - http://twitter.com/shamilsh/status/23085559558 [twitter.com]
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Except that the ransom demand was received from the Taliban. You think they've given up the jihad and started a courier business?
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It makes me wonder about all the other parts of the Koran they are unaware of. Ramadan? Muhammad? The battle of Yamama? No wonder they are so willing to fight a war against enemies who have the vast resources of Allah at their disposal. If they knew how disadvantaged they were, maybe they would just stop.
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At least you didn't include a FTFY. It is terribly annoying when some stranger assumes they understand your train of thought when they clearly only understand the opposite.
Truth be told, nothing had garnered more insight into Islam than the current wars of ideology, at least as far as the West is concerned.
Do I know more about Islam than I did on that fateful morning in September... of course I do. TBH, I recently transfered to a Jesuit university because it was the most distinguished and accepting of the
Ha Ha Ha (Score:2)
I find it humorous that some American soldiers don't actually know who Allah is.
It makes me wonder about all the other parts of the Koran they are unaware of.
That all sounds nice and sensitive and empathetic, but how many other stone age mythologies should they study? Should they be knowledgeable of the differences between the Sunni and Shia branches of Islam? Or the peculiarities of the Wahhabists or the Druze?
FYI, Ramayana, Mahabharata, Guru Granth Sahib, and Kitab Al Hikma are all sacred texts of large religious groups in Iraq/Afghanistan and their immediate vicinity (apart from the Torah, Old and New Testaments, and Koran). And this does not include other r
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Yes, I find it humorous that some Taliban soldiers don't actually know what the internet is.
I would guess that if all Islamic fundamentalists were on the internet and could access the vast wealth of porn contained therein, we'd have less Islamic fundamentalists.
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There are a few interesting articles on homosexuality in the Islamic fundamentalist world, like this one: http://www.globalgayz.com/country/Afghanistan/view/AFG/gay-afghanistan-homoeroticism-among-kabul-s-warriors [globalgayz.com]
Point being, they already have access to sex, visual entertainment, etc. Taliban commanders are going around raping and having forced marriages. Fighters sleep with young boys. I see that soft core porn may be pacifying to some degree, but there's also porn that appeals to extremists. Hell I've see
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Why is that good? (Score:2)
Heck, if they're playing WoW 18 hours a day there won't be any time left for them to plan to blow people up or kidnap them.
Breaking News (Score:4, Funny)
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Don't worry, it won't happen again.
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Twitter was used for something useful! Stop the presses!!!!
First 4chan does something nice [slashdot.org], now twitter actually helped rescue a POW... what other weird things is the internet going to do this week? A comment thread on youtube produces lasting peace in the middle east?
Who tricked who? (Score:2)
Minions... whatcha gonna do? (Score:2)
Good minions and henchmen are SO hard to find these days....
Help! (Score:2)
I'm being held in the castle Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh!
From a Japanese web site (Score:3, Informative)
Mainichi news article [mainichi.jp].
First useful twitter message (Score:2)
Wow, it's a historic moment - the first actually useful message ever sent on Twitter. And the first one anyone ever cared about.
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I don't think his captors were aware of the tweets he made.
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"...his captors were [not] aware of the CONTENT OF THE tweets he made."
They thought he was helping THEM. He was helping himself.
Re:Journalists Trick Slashdot Into Believing Story (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not spelled out, but it's in the article:
Simple social engineering, he befriended the guard, and showed the guard how to better use his "keys".
All that said, I agree it's still a leap of faith to conclude that the Twitter access freed the journalist... for all we know, he was already on the way out by way of negotiations with the captors, and the Twitter incident was ... incidental to the real release reasons. Poorly written article indeed.
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I agree it's still a leap of faith to conclude that the Twitter access freed the journalist...
How much VC funding has twitter spent? $50M or so? Gotta get some good press out there in order to recoup that investment.
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The point I was making is that the reason the article's logic, what rsborg called "a leap of faith," is so poor is that twitter needs to be seen as something more than just a bunch of twits - that the article may even be the result of pay-for-play to promote the company as something more important and valuable than it really is.
It's like saying "Suits are back!" [paulgraham.com]
Funny thing, your oddly moderated woooosh! of a post would fit in twitter's 140 character limit.
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Tricking his captors into letting him send a Tweet is nothing compared to tricking VC's into giving twitter $50M.
You're right: his captors had guns.
Re:Journalists Trick Slashdot Into Believing Story (Score:5, Insightful)
You could say "how is this trickery if he did it right in front of the guard?" and to you I would say "the best magicians do their tricks right in front of their audience"
Re:Journalists Trick Slashdot Into Believing Story (Score:4, Informative)
The guy says in TFA that he quite explicitly explained what the effect of him posting something on Twitter would be:
"They asked what that was. And I told them that if you write something on it, then you can reach many Japanese journalists. So they said, 'try it'."
So then, where's the trick, again?
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"They asked what that was. And I told them that if you write something on it, then you can reach many Japanese journalists. So they said, 'try it'."
So then, where's the trick, again?
The part where he used twitter to do something useful. That was quite a trick.
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The guy says in TFA that he quite explicitly explained what the effect of him posting something on Twitter would be:
"They asked what that was. And I told them that if you write something on it, then you can reach many Japanese journalists. So they said, 'try it'."
So then, where's the trick, again?
Making reaching many journalists seem like a good idea to his captors without shitting himself or getting shot?
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Ah, reasoning and deduction from the Twitter generation.
dZ.
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Is this a subtle joke that went over my head? And if not, who modded this garbage "insightful"?
The "trick" is explained in the story (note: while slashdot summaries are often atrocious, summaries are not expected to contain all of the information.) He didn't trick them into giving him access to the internet (nor does it say anywhere that he did) but rather tricked them into letting him use twitter.
Twitter was how he communicated that a) he was alive and being held captive, and b) where he was. If that had n
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If I ask you for your userid and password, did I get them by tricking you? NO.
Well that depends. If you said you needed it to fix a problem with my fstab (or clean up my registry for winxp users or whatever), but actually what you did was install a rootkit, then yes, you tricked me into giving you my password.
If a journalist says they're just going to help their jailer activate their phone, but then uses it to send for help, then they tricked their captor.
The real Kilgore Trout would have a more expansive
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That depends. If you ask me for my banking ID & password so you can deposit money, and instead you clean me out, then you tricked me.
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1031'6"E, 4155'2"N.
You've got me going around in circles...
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They were right. Good Luck!
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How many more journalist will you get killed by putting links to these stories on /.?
FTFY. If your concern is this information getting out in the wild you probably shouldn't focus on the second-hand portion of it.