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Highlights From Comic-Con 2012 74

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Comic-Con 2012 got underway yesterday, and some interesting bits of news have been filtering out. Digital comic sales boomed over the past year — something to be expected given the trend with ebooks and newspapers. But oddly, print comic sales are up as well, to the tune of 18%. At a Firefly panel, Joss Whedon spoke briefly about how the series would have ended if he could have done it on his own terms. "I don’t think I would have killed anybody," he said. TV shows are a strong theme this year, which much discussion around The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones. All in all, about 80 television programs are represented at Comic-Con. The show is also highlighting the recent trend away from strict superhero stories. "Image Comics is indeed banking on 'superhero-ed out' readers, not only with Kirkman's The Walking Dead, (Kirkman has been called the 'unofficial mayor of Comic-Con') but with books like the spy-fi The Activity. The title's second issue, out next week, was co-plotted with actual Navy SEALs."
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Highlights From Comic-Con 2012

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  • yeah yeah whatever (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13, 2012 @05:54PM (#40644011)
    But were there ponies?
  • I have a friend that wrote off Joss Whedon and all his 'stuff' because of what happened in Serenity. (Even Dr. Horrible.) While he understands the dramatic tension aspect of it, and agree's that it worked completely, he said, "NOTHING was worth that."

    Pretty funny.

    • by ZorinLynx (31751)

      I still think it was done to prevent any possibility of there ever being a sequel or a continuation of the series. The rightsholders wanted it to end, and they got their wish.

      • by ackthpt (218170)

        I still think it was done to prevent any possibility of there ever being a sequel or a continuation of the series. The rightsholders wanted it to end, and they got their wish.

        Nothing is ever over. Haven't you seen enough ret-coning, re-imagining, re-booting to tell you that, yet? Besides, there's always room for a Prequel and one that forks the story at that (a la Prometheus.)

  • Tee-vee (Score:5, Insightful)

    by PeanutButterBreath (1224570) on Friday July 13, 2012 @05:57PM (#40644053)

    So its TV-Con now, with a highlight being yet more discussion of a short lived, long dead show that still manages to be at least as interesting as anything that has been made since.

    • Re:Tee-vee (Score:5, Funny)

      by decipher_saint (72686) on Friday July 13, 2012 @06:10PM (#40644217) Homepage

      ...let me tell you about Star Trek

    • Re:Tee-vee (Score:5, Insightful)

      by ackthpt (218170) on Friday July 13, 2012 @06:10PM (#40644219) Homepage Journal

      So its TV-Con now, with a highlight being yet more discussion of a short lived, long dead show that still manages to be at least as interesting as anything that has been made since.

      All in all, about 80 television programs are represented at Comic-Con.

      It's becoming Media-Con and people are letting it. Which is why I have no interest in attending. I'd rather go to a show closer to home which Hollywood isn't trying to take over. It's called Comic -Con and should seriously consider getting back to the business of Comics.

      • Why would they ever do that? This is more profitable.
        </cynic>

        • by ackthpt (218170)

          Why would they ever do that? This is more profitable.
          </cynic>

          I know.

          Attendance is higher and with all those feet (and in a few instances, wheels) paying to get in, why change .. unless the act of selling out dilutes the original attraction of the show and comics fans lose interest in attending. I think this has happened before ...

          • by taustin (171655)

            Attendance has been capped as what the fire marshalls will allow in the building (about 140,000, IIRC) for years. It's not about money, it's about the organizers getting meet the A-listers, without having to stand in line.

        • Re:Tee-vee (Score:4, Insightful)

          by taustin (171655) on Friday July 13, 2012 @07:59PM (#40645091) Homepage Journal

          Missed the mark. Comic-Con, the Comic-Con, is non-profit, run by unpaid volunteers. Last I heard, the biggest convention in the world run by amateurs.

          No, the reason they've sold out utterly and completely to Hollywood is that the people who make those decsions, the organizers, get "all access" badges. That means they can go anywhere and everywhere, inlcuding the green room, to rub elbows with Angelina Jolie (that was the year the sell-out really started) and Hugh Jackman. So far as I can tell, the organizers would perform human sacrifices under the Sails if it kept the A-list Hollywood types coming every year.

        • by PCM2 (4486)

          Why would they ever do that? This is more profitable.

          I kind of agree with you, but it's worth mentioning that Comic-Con is run by a nonprofit organization.

      • Re:Tee-vee (Score:5, Insightful)

        by macwhizkid (864124) on Friday July 13, 2012 @07:48PM (#40645021)

        It's becoming Media-Con and people are letting it. Which is why I have no interest in attending. I'd rather go to a show closer to home which Hollywood isn't trying to take over. It's called Comic -Con and should seriously consider getting back to the business of Comics.

        A comic book is just a medium for telling a particular story. The notion of a "comic strip" was originally telling a story with a sequence of pictures. Television and film is arguably just an evolution along that path. In other words, focusing on stories regardless of the medium they're told in is going back to the original business of comics.

        Personally, I have a hard time seeing Comic-Con as anything but a win for everyone involved. Fans love it for the interactivity, writers, artists and actors love it for the chance to get fans excited about their work, and I'm sure it makes plenty of money for the ownership. I suspect very few people in those groups want the event to go back to focusing solely on comic books.

        • Re:Tee-vee (Score:4, Insightful)

          by PeanutButterBreath (1224570) on Friday July 13, 2012 @08:34PM (#40645269)

          Personally, I have a hard time seeing Comic-Con as anything but a win for everyone involved. Fans love it for the interactivity, writers, artists and actors love it for the chance to get fans excited about their work, and I'm sure it makes plenty of money for the ownership. I suspect very few people in those groups want the event to go back to focusing solely on comic books.

          I suspect that MTV, the cast of Jersey Shore and their millions of "fans" (i.e. people that get a sick thrill out of watching trashy idiots humiliate themselves) wouldn't want MTV to go back to showing music videos. However, the fact that MTV has abandoned its original premise in order to chase cheaper content and easier ratings is not a "win" for music videos. It is a "win" for an alternative form of entertainment and its fans, perhaps. It is certainly a win for MTV, which likely get better ratings for content that clears a much lower bar, and which can be churned out ad nauseam.

          However, reality tv is not music tv, regardless of the venue. MTVs ratings don't change this fact. Nor are television and film the same as comic books. You are into the meta "its all just stories" angle and don't care about the distinction? Fine. But that doesn't change the fact that there are distinctions that matter to others.

          Its not like there is no venue for TV and film to showcase their projects and talent. Let Comic-Con be about comics.

          • by AmiMoJo (196126)

            MTV had to change because showing music videos is cheap and there are dozens of other channels doing it. They would have been lost in a sea of copycat dross, channels run by a bloke in a basement doing little more than creating YouTube playlists for the audience mixed with some ads. Original programming was necessary.

            I agree most of what they do is crap, but since there are plenty of other channels doing what MTV used to I don't think we have lost anything.

      • by taustin (171655)

        Becoming? It's been a Hollywood trade show for about a decade.

      • by tlhIngan (30335)

        It's becoming Media-Con and people are letting it. Which is why I have no interest in attending. I'd rather go to a show closer to home which Hollywood isn't trying to take over. It's called Comic -Con and should seriously consider getting back to the business of Comics.

        That's like saying we should all abandon the web and go back to gopher. Media evolves - and comic books cover all sorts of topics these days. From TV shows and movies having backstories filled in by comics, to cancelled programs living on th

    • Yeah I think the biggest joke was Ryan Renalds being the new highlander is that really the best they could come up with for a legendary actor like Christopher Lambert.
  • by phorm (591458)

    Spider man recently had a second "reboot".
    Superman has been somewhat rebooted.
    Batman has been rebooted countless times
    Star trek... many different series, and now a TOS reboot.

    There are a lot of book or even game-based movies/series coming out. Nnot that it's bad, some are very good, but sometimes the networks seem to scrape fairly far down the barrel for original stuff. Why not reboot Firefly? Hell, they could probably make a killing by turning it into a kickstarter project or whatever.

    • by ackthpt (218170)

      Reboot .. Retcon .. Reimagining .. it's all about the money.

    • If you think Spider-man is bad, you should look at Punisher [wikipedia.org] or . I think that literally every single live action film or TV series in both of those franchises has been considered a reboot (with the exception of The Avengers, which, while using a different actor for the Hulk, is considered to be in the same continuity, nonetheless), and both of them stretch back a few decades and include some rather hilarious '80s editions.

    • Superman has been somewhat rebooted.

      If there's an immediate kernel panic, does it still qualify as a reboot?

      • From what I gather the Siegel & Shuster lawsuit against DC prohibits the company from using certain aspects of the Superman mythos but I don't know which ones. The Superman being presented now is anything but the guy I grew up reading about-- they've gone gritty and dark and turned him into Batman. If comic sales are on the upswing I can't imagine it's because they're attracting new readers. Instead they retreat further and further into freakishness and fanboy pandering. I used to buy them, then I'd pir
  • The most exciting news out of Comic-Con so far for me has been Neil Gaiman announcing his Sandman prequel. Official announcement video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GndnR7oSYYk [youtube.com]
  • by toupsz (882584)

    What about all the pony news? :D

  • by Volda (1113105)
    Who cares about comics. Bring on the girls in cosplay!
  • I heard that Fringe will be starting its final season (and an abridged final season, at that) and the cast will be at Comic-Con. IMHO it is one of the best sci-fi series set on present-day earth that we've seen since ... well maybe ever. I would have loved to have seen several more seasons but apparently this is it.

    Really, it had practically everything a sci-fi guy could ask for in a series:
    • Alternate universes
    • Leonard Nimoy
    • Time Travel
    • Leonard Nimoy
    • A hot leading lady
    • Leonard Nimoy
    • Quirky characters
    • Leonard
  • by Curunir_wolf (588405) on Friday July 13, 2012 @11:06PM (#40645935) Homepage Journal

    Dude - seriously. When you post a headline that says "Comic-Con Highlights", people click on your click on your link looking for THIS [youtube.com]. I mean, come on, right?.

  • The VERY small text regarding the ending of Firefly:

    1:33: A fan asks how Firefly would have ended if Joss had known it was going to be canceled: “I don’t think I would have killed anybody,” Joss says and Tudyk raises his hands in victory. “A film is a different animal and has different needs,” Whedon continues. “We would have learned about the Blue Sun conspiracy, Inara and Shepherd Book.”

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