Samsung Also Making a Smartwatch 196
New submitter evansspann sends word that Samsung will be making a smartwatch. Rumors have been swirling for a few months that Apple is working on a 'watch-like' device, but Samsung's CEO was willing to confirm that his company is working on such a product. "We've been preparing the watch product for so long. We are working very hard to get ready for it. We are preparing products for the future, and the watch is definitely one of them." The companies are now likely racing to be the first to market. Production of such a device will likely be easier for Samsung, since it can produce its own screens and chips. It's also likely to work well with the popular Galaxy Phone lines. However, it will have a tougher time with app distribution than Apple, since it doesn't control Google Play the way Apple controls the App Store. "Apple's critics like to say the company's ideas are obvious, but as some pundits have noted, those very ideas once seemed unimaginable. The smartwatch will be a great test for that theory. It'll be interesting to see if Samsung can strike first in a nascent category and still rival Apple's work."
Another easy to misread title (Score:5, Funny)
I have a feeling this is going to be downvoted because it happens to be the first post and people will think I'm just posting for that reason, but I totally misread this title as "Samsung also making a sandwich". Maybe someone sexist jerk told them to get in the kitchen, and they took it to heart?
Re:Another easy to misread title (Score:5, Funny)
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sudo make me a smartwatch
Not quite...
su apple -c 'make me a smartwatch'
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I read the same thing, except I thought it was some hybrid word of "Smart sandwich".
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Maybe that's why we read it that way.
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You are far from alone. Doesn't help that I'm hungry right now.
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I read the same thing and I have no clue why. One of these strange sentence illusions.
Re:Another easy to misread title (Score:4, Insightful)
I read the same thing and I have no clue why. One of these strange sentence illusions.
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Honestly, I think I would prefer the cheaper samsung sandwich over the aluminum unibody iWich from Apple.
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It will be an unpopular product (Score:4, Funny)
As a wise man once said ...
Charlie: Okay, the reason why men say hot girl at, like, 12 o'clock or 3 o'clock, is to specify a location using the clock face as a kind of a map.
Jake: What if you have a digital watch?
Charlie: First of all, you're not gonna meet any women if you wear a digital watch. Second of all, it doesn't matter; the clock face is imaginary.
Jake: Then how do you know what time you saw the girl?
Charlie: Oh, my God!
Re:Another easy to misread title (Score:4, Interesting)
Samsung has been making watch-phones since perhaps 2009:
Samsung S9110 Watch Phone : http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_s9110-2885.php [gsmarena.com]
This one was even earlier but cancelled: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_watch_phone-418.php [gsmarena.com]
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176 x 220 pixels - yeah, that'll do nicely for now.
2009? Why have I not seen it before today?
The Pebble, now that it's out, looks a bit of a disapointment. I'm sure if Samsung did an upgrade of the S9110 it would be a nice bit of kit and they'd fly off the shelves.
I for one... (Score:2, Insightful)
Can't wait to see all old ideas re-patented by adding the language "on a watch".
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This. Once got strong armed by a lawyer/volunteer policer office for licensing fees, because he had a patent for putting software on a laptop in a police car. We didn't budge and he never took us to court, given that we knew lots of people that had been doing that prior to his patent. He'd rather keep his billy club to threaten someone else with, then have it invalidated.
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Can't wait to see all old ideas re-patented by adding the language "on a watch".
Wondering if anyone hast been in contact with the Pebble crew. I wouldn't be surprised if they had some patents lined up already.
Re:I for one... (Score:5, Informative)
Can't wait to see all old ideas re-patented by adding the language "on a watch".
Not likely. In its 2007 ruling in KSR vs Teleflex [wikipedia.org], the Supreme Court made these "combination patents" invalid.
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Prior art:
All Categories >"watch phone" 14,158 Results - http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=watch+phone&catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20130320145905 [aliexpress.com]
Yeah, but suppose I want a smart watch that keeps the display oriented so I can read it, now matter which direction my arm is pointing, that's the stuff of patents.
"Nascent"? (Score:2)
I'm sure both the Samsung and Apple versions will be impressive new steps in the technology, but let's not pretend there's anything fundamentally new about the idea.
Re:"Nascent"? (Score:4, Interesting)
Reminds me of a watch a friend had before the days of bluetooth/wifi. To sync your calendar, you held it up to a computer that flashed barcodes on screen which the watch read. Not sure how much practical use he got out of the thing, but was definitely cool to watch.
Re:"Nascent"? (Score:5, Interesting)
I had one of those too, the Timex DataLink series. It depended on the CRT flickering to perform a one-way sync of basic PIM data. This of course didn't work on LCDs or systems like NT where the level of control over the display Timex needed was unavailable, so they also had a serial-based gizmo that flashed a LED to do the same job.
I got mine in 1998 or so and used it as a watch until the plastic body of the watch fell apart some time in 2004. The PIM function hadn't been usable to me for a few years as I'd switched to NT in XP form when it came out, but I'd had a Palm m100 since 2001 so that wasn't really a big deal.
I'd like a modern take on the smart watch, even after getting the Palm I liked having a basic info set available wherever I went. A good "home screen" could put a lot of useful information at a glance without needing to pull your device out of your pocket. Calendar, incoming messages, caller ID, etc. I could see being very useful. Give it an e-paper display for massive battery life and I'm interested.
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Great concept, I'm waiting for a thinner model with an edge-to-edge display of ANY res. I only ever wore one watch, a rare digital Casio (no, it's not an oxymoron, you find me something that looks like the W-50U on today's market).
My messed-up parents forced me to give this watch back to the boy who gave it to me years ago, and I've searched (with cash at the readies) for something similar, even the same one, ever since. Still no watch. Seriously, if I'd seen it on somebody's wrist, I'd have bought it from
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W-50U [drmik.com]. Mine was black plastic :(
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That blog's link to the source appears to be broken. Found the original: http://www.horologycrazy.com/2009/05/casio-w-50u-worldtimer.html [horologycrazy.com]
I also found one up for sale, in the UK even, though a hundred-plus quid does indeed seem like a "ridiculous inflated price" for a plastic watch. :)
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I also found that article subsquently, but thought I'd be spamming if I wrote a second reply to my own post. I also found that one on eBay, with a Buy it Now of 399 and starting bid of 100, and it isn't even functioning properly (no light, no alarm).
There just aren't any other plain, square, flat-ish, digital watches with nice edge-to-displays and multiple alarms and timers around, either that or I'm not looking hard enough. The product in the article is really thick and will probably catch on everything I
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Yeah, I'm not a fan of stubby watches either. However, while the same price, the eBay UK listing I found is described as "new with tags", "in fully working condition". Title is "Casio W-50U rare Made in Japan NOS". Seller is "imissmyyouth1980". (heh, I miss mine too), located in Birmingham, West Midlands, UK.
Hmm. Your spec list... maybe http://youtu.be/RZZn-wN48pw [youtu.be] comes close?
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Seller is "imissmyyouth1980". (heh, I miss mine too), located in Birmingham, West Midlands, UK.
Let's just hope they don't insist on collection in person.
I went to Birmingham once. It was shut.
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Timex Datalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Datalink [wikipedia.org], altough I woulld have loved to have that one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_Wrist_PDA [wikipedia.org]
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That was of course prior to high powered smart phones. Current trend carry a smart phone don't carry a watch or a music player. About the only really useful function I can think of for a smart watch is be able to track your smart phone. Set off an alarm when the phone exceeds a set distance from the watch and then give indication of the distance and direction to the smart phone and of course the ability to ignore that alarm and then track down the smart phone at a latter time. Then you have emergency respo
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About the only really useful function I can think of for a smart watch is be able to track your smart phone.
For an outdoors-y type of person, having your GPS, compass, altimeter, emergency light and whistle and basic phone on your wrist where you're less likely to lose it seems like a good idea.
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It's sort of clever, but I burned up all my mod points over in the DRM thread. Sorry.
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yeah soon enough samsung will introduce the new idea of a watch with a butchered down android..
oh shit sony and motorola already did it.. last fucking year!
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Word.
My hat is off to you, Good Sir/Ma'am/Fido.
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To be honest I like my current watch (which is your average $500 quartz watch - actually a seiko sportura from the early 2000s)
1) It looks pretty. Prettier than any smartwatch can look (as subjective as looks are, I believe a screen is not pretty)
2) its battery lasts forever. i change it every 5-8 years. not every 24h (even every week would probably be annoying. i'd want a month!). In fact I changed the battery once so far, after 7 years.
3) it's waterproof. really waterproof.
4) it's durable. extremely durab
Casio (Score:5, Interesting)
Apple misdirection? (Score:5, Funny)
This makes me suspect that Apple deliberately started rumors that they were working on a "smartwatch" simply to trick other companies into wasting effort into actually developing such a useless product.
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Bzzzzzzzt. You left out "The Cloud". :)
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Yes... they are clearly doing this to hide their work on a iHat.
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This makes me suspect that Apple deliberately started rumors that they were working on a "smartwatch" simply to trick other companies into wasting effort into actually developing such a useless product.
You mean, after half a dozen companies already released specs for or working Android-based smart watches?
You Apple fanbois truly, honestly believe that Apple invented every fucking thing in tech and beyond.
There were smartphones before Apple "invented" them, there were MP3 players before Apple "invented" them, there was even slide-to-unlock before Apple "invented" it. FTFS!
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The others have already decided to make smart watches! Samsung may be late to the party, but most others aren't - if anything, it is Apple that is trailing, together with Samsung.
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Apple released the iPod Nano 6th generation way back in 2010, and it was frequently worn as a smart watch, so I would say that the three watches you mention are, in fact, the Johnnies-come-lately. Perspective is a funny thing. :-)
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This makes me suspect that Apple deliberately started rumors that they were working on a "smartwatch" simply to trick other companies into wasting effort into actually developing such a useless product.
You mean, after half a dozen companies already released specs for or working Android-based smart watches?
You Apple fanbois truly, honestly believe that Apple invented every fucking thing in tech and beyond. There were smartphones before Apple "invented" them, there were MP3 players before Apple "invented" them, there was even slide-to-unlock before Apple "invented" it. FTFS!
I'm an Apple 'fanboy' and I have been around since the 70s so I remember technology before the iPod and the iPhone, I even remember a time before PCs. About 10-12 years ago the only affordable MP3 players were RAM sticks in the sub 128mb range and, yes, there were smartphones. There were even smartphones with a big touch screen and a UI that had some of the features of the one in the iPhone. My favorite was the Sony Ericsson p800 [ffmobile.com] and p900 [ffmobile.com] series. They came with a stylus but up to a point you could actually
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Ah but this is apple.
Apple is working on everything conceivable all the time. They only submit it to production once they are sure it works reasonably well, and they can make a decent margin on it without killing existing product lines. Until then it is applesauce.
the iPhone started as a tablet, that got shrunk because they couldn't do the tablet correctly(power, weight, cpu, etc) There were rumors of I 86 based darwin(the OS X Kernel) at the time OS X was orginially launched.
Apple hedges lots of bets in
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They only submit it to production once they are sure it works reasonably well, and they can make a decent margin on it without killing existing product lines.
You're an idiot. iPod sales are down since the launch of the iPhone. [cnn.com] Apple doesn't care.
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only for the basement dwellers
i'll buy it for the health and biometric tracking features it will probably have
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I don't know, the already released Motorola MotoActv is something I'd very much like to have.
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Samsung claims to have been working on this since before the rumors, which seems reasonable given other similar products like Pebble were already in development too.
They have to do something with those flexible displays they keep showing off.
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This makes me suspect that Apple deliberately started rumors that they were working on a "smartwatch" simply to trick other companies into wasting effort into actually developing such a useless product.
I doubt it. Such a plan would backfire for the simple fact that Samsung's R&D on the matter requires an actual product to either copy (iOS) or co-opt (Android).
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URL?
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For instance GPS is much better when it is done stand alone. You get a bigger screen, potential integration, etc.
A galaxy S3 [bestbuy.com] has a 4.8" screen. A tomtom XL 340-S [tigerdirect.com] has a 4.3" screen. A garmin nuvi 40 [thegpsstore.com] has a 4.3" screen
Additionally, you have to pay no small amount of money to update maps in both the TomTom and Garmin devices. A Galaxy S3 updates its maps for free and does so automatically. I have yet to drive anywhere that my phone cannot map.
I fail to see why a dedicated GPS is better than my phone, especially considering that I would have bought my phone anyways.
Re: Apple misdirection? (Score:2)
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Offline map is only available in certain countries or cities.
I'm sure that if your hobby is trekking solo across the Antarctic you'll be better off with a dedicated military GPS unit that costs twenty times more than your smartphone and is guaranteed to withstand temperatures down to -50C and small arms fire. Meanwhile in the real world, 99% of people will be perfectly happy with Google Maps.
James Bond (Score:2)
We've all wanted smart watches since Q gave the first one to 007. It has taken a while, but I'm glad my dreams will finally come true.
Re:James Bond (Score:5, Funny)
James Bond is a poser. I've wanted one since Dick Tracy [blogspot.com].
Now get off my lawn, kid!
Screw James Bond (Score:2)
Dick Tracy cites prior art!
Stefan Jobes (Score:4, Funny)
if you look carefully, you can see the Samsung founder Stefan Jobes wearing a smartwatch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YciM_54HzZk [youtube.com]
What are they going to do with a sandwich? (Score:2)
Damn, read that as "sandwich" and thought I was at the onion... maybe I'm hungry.
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Damn, now I want an onion sandwich.
Sandwich (Score:2)
Misread that as "Samsung also making a sandwich". Got real excited too.
Unimaginable? What about Dick Tracy and Search? (Score:3)
IIRC, didn't Dick Tracy have a two-way wrist radio back in the 60's? And the "Search" [nee "Probe"] TV series had a tricorder-like device [they called a "scanner"] that could fit on top of an agent's ring.
So, such things were imagined just not realized. Just getting the prior art out there before the youngster lawyers start claiming so-and-so company invented the concept.
I need a peripheral watch, not a phone watch. (Score:2)
There are plenty of phone watches out there... that is nothing new. What I'd like is something like Pebbl or the Sony Ericsson LiveView that interfaces to my phone (Android or iPhone) with some sort of standard interface for developers.
It can be a two-way interface, relaying video and audio in both directions, as well as have a small touch screen.
$150 is a bit much... LiveViews are available for $30, as they seem to be closeouts... I would like something like this for less than $100, though.
Do people still wear watches? (Score:2)
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So you can impress your friends by showing off your iWatch.
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one clock to rule them all (Score:2)
I suppose you've never met a shift-worker with a dual-time watch where the second display is set to 07:00 on waking so that one doesn't forget to each lunch when the real-world strikes 03:00.
I suppose you don't operate a stop-watch by feel and sound and habit when dr
How Apple can bankrupt Samsung (Score:2)
Just keep releasing rumours about crazy products in the pipe line:
1. TV you talk at. Check, Samsung already made one. Anyone buy it?
2. Watch with battery life about 1/1000th of a normal one. In the pipeline...
3. ??????
The first stike won't be the best (Score:2)
If Samsung releases their watch first, Apple will release a "better" one. That of course may mean Apple won't release what they planned to however.
You can't release a competing product that doesn't compete without losing face.
Samsung's smart watch will crush the iWatch (Score:5, Interesting)
Spiceps (Score:3)
I just hope it can be movement-powered (Score:2)
Another win for ADHD!
Hope Pebble Doesn't Get Crunched (Score:3)
This feels a lot like history might be repeating itself here.
Anyone remember the ill-fated CrunchPad? Public announcement preceded that of the ipad, but for a bunch of reasons it never amounted to much while the Ipad took off and even Apple's competitors did better than how the crunchpad ended up.
Now we have the Pebble Watch [getpebble.com] which actually did make it to market (despite many unforseen delays) before the iwatch and other competitors (I think sony has a crappy smartwatch, but it is crappy). Even so it is immature with only modest software functionality at the moment.
Meanwhile all the chatter gives the impression Apple and others have got their own versions coming real soon now. Maybe its just FUD to scare people into wait-and-see on Pebble instead of going out and buying one right now. Or maybe there really is something good right around the corner that will clobber Pebble.
Stand alone? (Score:2)
Will it be standalone without having a phone? Or will it require it? It would be nice to have it in the phone.
Sony already makes a smartwatch. (Score:2)
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Digital watches? (Score:2)
Obligatory Douglas Adams quote:
Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea...
Although I wear a relatively smart digital watch, I often wonder whether an automatic piece of jewelry (say, a Breguet) would be nicer on my wrist. Can't afford, so the question is purely philosophical.
Fuck Dick Tracy (Score:2)
stupidity (Score:2)
Wave of the future (Score:2)
I personally cannot wait for the new wave of smartwatches so that we can enjoy all of the exciting lawsuits over who started working on which one first.
Even the introduction quote sounds like an opening move in the gambit: "We've been preparing the watch product for so long." Not a specific time, just so long - long enough to make it legally questionable who had the idea first.
I personally can't wait for Casio to leap into the fray, patents blazing. I'm gonna need to license me some popcorn for this.
Re:battery? Phone talking? (Score:4, Interesting)
It will be a fashion statement. Though, I personally think it could be a handy little gadget if they simply make it compliment the phone rather than fail at duplicating functions. Display caller id, allow answering calls, function as a bluetooth speaker phone, display alerts so you dont have to pull your phone out of your pocket to find out that no, someone is not texting you, there is an update angry birds, control your music player, and heck, even display the current time.
I could see it as useful, but not exceptionally so. It should appeal to gadget folk. The real trick will be making it smart enough but simple.
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The smart money is on a complementary device, I think. No need to sacrifice tablet and smartphone sales.
I'm hoping for a device that works well with any smartphone (that's a pipe dream, of course -- until someone roots the thing it'll probably only work with Samsung or Apple devices) to provide the types of things you suggested, but is not dependent on a connection for everything.
For example, give it enough memory to download a playlist, so I can use it as my MP3 player while working out.
Give it enough sen
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IIRC Bond's watch had a laser in it. One powerful enough to cut... something. I forget what. Handcuffs or something. Hmm. We're going to need a larger speck of plutonium...
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Look, wrist watches were replaced by cellphones.
Only for children and hipsters.
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Indeed. If I could wear my cellphone, I totally would. (Assuming my cellphone also had about 2 years of battery life on a single charge, like my watch does...)
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You can, but you look like a douchebag talking to yourself on a bluetooth headset.
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You also look like a douche bag talking to your watch on speaker phone because there is no ear piece.
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Who said anything about a bluetooth headset? How do you know I don't want to talk directly into my wrist, like an awesome movie spy? (Ok, fine, those probably exist already, and I'm just being silly.)
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This, dammit. I would pay good money for such a thing if it also contained a powerful rechargable lithium polymer battery and two or more USB ports (for power, not data).
I was given one of these recently:
http://www.siibusinessproducts.com/eu/english/products/sp582e.html [siibusinessproducts.com]
It's irrelevant now, but it is a good example of a third-party creating new ways to work with equipment we already have. Bring on the Bracer dock...
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Or, depending on how you wear your smartphone, you'd look more like Leela from Futurama.
Come to think of it, why HASN'T anyone made a bracer like the thing Leela wears on her arm, complete with a place to mount a cell phone? That seems like something some Futurama fan would've come up with by now...
I got one of those "sports" phone holders the other day. It holds your phone in landscape orientation perfectly if you put it on your forearm instead of your biceps, which is useful for, er, watching videos one handed on your phone. However, I wouldn't be seen dead with it like that in public.
Re:battery? Phone talking? (Score:5, Funny)
An iWatch would be a fashion accessory just like iPods and IPhones are fashion accessories, an iPad is just a digital purse.
(and Andriod tablets are digital cargo pants, while Surface tablets are digital fannypacks.)
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"Because with the trend of phones being 5"+..."
The trend toward larger phone displays is because they aren't significantly more burdensome. We don't need a new device to overcome a problem that doesn't exist, we need devices that are more useful. That explains the trend toward larger screens. Watches, on the other hand, haven't been useful in a long time.
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They are probably running Tizen and not Android in line with their dropping of Android.
lulz. webui on a phone makes so much sense.