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Edward Snowden Still Stuck At Airport, May Be Permitted Entry Into Russia Soon 205

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sl4shd0rk writes "Edward Snowden, the enlightening NSA Whistleblower, may have been granted refuge in Russia as reported by Interfax News. He has apparently been given papers (and a change of clothes) by the Russian government to allow him to soon leave the Sheremetyevo airport. The delay in exodus, cited by a Russian official, is apparently due to the 'uniqueness' of the situation being cause for thorough review of Snowden's Asylum request." Reports are conflicting; WaPo and Reuters say Snowden's Asylum application is still in limbo, whereas other sources are claiming only minor details are blocking his exit and he may be allowed to leave as early as tomorrow. What is certain is that he's not leaving today despite early reports claiming he could.
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Edward Snowden Still Stuck At Airport, May Be Permitted Entry Into Russia Soon

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  • by slashmydots (2189826) on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @12:12PM (#44371079)
    Whoa. It's been what, like 3 weeks and I've never seen a laundromat in an airport, especially one that lets you stand there naked. So he's been in the same clothes the whole time. Ugh!
    They do have a hotel or something like that in there though, right?
    • by turp182 (1020263) on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @12:43PM (#44371477) Journal

      CNN has had a couple of corespondents try and find Snowden at the airport. There's actually a hotel has a floor that isn't considered Russian territory (having not passed through customs) that they will bus you off airport property to. There's room service, and probably laundry as well.

      http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/11/world/europe/russia-snowden-goodman-transit/index.html?iref=allsearch [cnn.com]

      Interesting read actually. And of course they didn't see him...

      • by slashmydots (2189826) on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @01:22PM (#44371843)
        I was wondering about some sort of offsite hotel arrangement like that. If he took the bus (though Russian territory) then obviously that was kept on the down low. Then just order some new clothes on ebay, ship to the hotel, and kill some time. If I had one guess, he's just playing Neverwinter on a laptop all day and probably is level 60 already, lol. I've seen like 8 players named Snowden so far so who knows.
        • If he took the bus (though Russian territory) then obviously that was kept on the down low.

          If an airport terminal in a country can be considered "not in a country" and that works, and a hotel can also be considered "not really in a country", why not a bus?

          For that matter, the whole idea of countries is purely artificial anyway. The US isn't respecting agreed upon international law anyway. They're only not pulling him out of the airport, bus, hotel, or whatever because that would create more headaches than not taking revenge on him. And because they probably expect to get him anyway.

          • And because they probably expect to get him anyway.

            Or because they want him to get away. Of course they have to put on a show of trying to get him, but do they really want to? The "Snowden Affair" is quietly fading away, with all the NSA spying intact. Bringing him back to the USA for a trial would put the issue back on the front page. The government prefers that we all focus on Will and Kate's new baby instead.

            • by cayenne8 (626475)

              Or because they want him to get away. Of course they have to put on a show of trying to get him, but do they really want to? The "Snowden Affair" is quietly fading away, with all the NSA spying intact. Bringing him back to the USA for a trial would put the issue back on the front page. The government prefers that we all focus on Will and Kate's new baby instead.

              They also seem to needlessly be trying to keep the Travyon/George thing going, another thing to help distract from Federal govt spying and persecut

          • by Deadstick (535032)

            If an airport terminal in a country can be considered "not in a country" and that works, and a hotel can also be considered "not really in a country", why not a bus?

            Quite right. As long as he's continuously under the control of the immigration authority, he's still "in transit".
            Not uncommon to bus international passengers between airplanes and customs/immigration, especially if the airport has construction going on.

        • by loufoque (1400831)

          It's out?
          Why didn't anyone tell me?

      • 1. The CIA has taken everything but the clothes on his back at the airport. Too many eyes are looking for extraordinary rendition, but that doesn't mean they haven't take all of his luggage in the middle of the night.
        2. The government has locked all of his assets.

        He has no secrets to sell Russia, the USA wouldn't let him sit in an airport for a month if he, still, had anything of value. Do you see him on youtube? He doesn't have a computer, he doesn't have anything but the clothes on his back. I doubt he's

    • Seems like a nice airport, maybe he's bathing in the fountains near the strip club.
  • Carousel (Score:5, Funny)

    by A10Mechanic (1056868) on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @12:13PM (#44371097)
    He's just waiting for his luggage to pop out on the carousel
  • Exclusivity (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Dan East (318230)

    This probably means Snowden has agreed to turn over everything he's got to Russia. That way it can be quietly assimilated at a government level and just kind of go away at the public level. That gives Russia secrets they certainly want, and saves face for America publicly.

    • No. (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Snowden and Assange are going to be in a new reality show produced in Russia

    • Re:Exclusivity (Score:5, Insightful)

      by PraiseBob (1923958) on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @12:38PM (#44371421)
      Because causing their greatest geo-political competitor massive embarrasment in front of the whole world isn't enough incentive for Russia to let him stay? What does Russia have to gain by throwing him out? Many of their top allies all support giving Snowden asylum. They get to paint America as the bad guys, and themselves as pro-freedom. Why on earth would they need extra incentives above and beyond that? Any intelligence Snowden could offer has less value than his presence.
      • by evilviper (135110)

        What does Russia have to gain by throwing him out?

        Not DESTROYING their recently repaired relationship with the US? You know, one of their big allies, who gives them truck-loads of cash?

        That might be something...

      • by westlake (615356)

        What does Russia have to gain by throwing him out?

        Someone just might suffer from the delusion that Putin would tolerate leaks of Russian documents. That males Snowden high maintenance, while his entertainment value --- and political capital ----diminishes with time.

      • by Livius (318358)

        Russia doesn't even pretend to be pro-freedom. The US paints itself as the bad guy without any help.

        It could be as simple as Snowden being a legitimate refugee from political persecution.

    • by Baloroth (2370816)

      This probably means Snowden has agreed to turn over everything he's got to Russia. That way it can be quietly assimilated at a government level and just kind of go away at the public level. That gives Russia secrets they certainly want, and saves face for America publicly.

      And make him an actual, valid in every sense of the word, traitor (as opposed to before, where he was a traitor only if you stretch the term a bit, and even then only in a very limited technical sense).

    • Re:Exclusivity (Score:5, Insightful)

      by runeghost (2509522) on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @01:10PM (#44371725)
      Former KGB General Oleg Kalugin, who is an American citizen and critic of Putin, stated in an interview that he doesn't believe that Snowden has much if anything Russian intelligence didn't already know. http://ianmasters.com/content/july-2-julian-assange-now-speaking-edward-snowden-kgb-general-standoff-moscow-could-deadly-n [ianmasters.com]
      • by LoRdTAW (99712)

        Russia is playing a game with the US and is granting Snowden asylum just so they can thumb their collective nose at the US.

        "We know you want to arrest Snowden and parade him around as a traitor in front of the press SO badly *BUT* guess what, we will let him stay here just so you can't get him. HAHA bitches!"

        • Actually, the Russians are playing it very diplomatically. They already stated he can only stay if he stops with the comments hurting the US. Not everything another country does outside of our interests is "thumbing their nose." They definitely want that next defector with some juicy intel looking their way for an escape route.

      • by MushMouth (5650)

        which if you look at the fact that Snowden (and PFC Manning) really didn't have all that much with respect to credentials, it makes sense that a world class intelligence agency most likely already has many assets with higher access than an IT guy with a GED.

  • by gstoddart (321705) on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @12:16PM (#44371139) Homepage

    Once he's out, I'm sure the CIA or someone will send in a team to black bag him in the middle of the night.

    It's not like they've never done that before.

    • by EvilSS (557649)
      Or the Russians will kill him and blame the CIA. They score a black eye against the US (who would NOT believe the CIA did it) and they avoid any consequences for harboring him. Win-win! Well, unless you're Snowden.
  • by ducomputergeek (595742) on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @12:19PM (#44371187)

    He is the story now. What the governement is doing in terms of spying on its own people is now largely forgotten in the news cycles.

    • That's because you falsely presume that the majority of people are against what the government is doing. Most of the people rationalize it as okay and then condemn Snowden as a traitor. You need to get out of your nerd bubble to see this, though.

  • by auric_dude (610172) on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @12:50PM (#44371539)
    What Happens When We Actually Catch Edward Snowden? http://www.lawfareblog.com/2013/07/what-happens-when-we-actually-catch-edward-snowden/ [lawfareblog.com]
  • by Petron (1771156) on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @02:03PM (#44372277)

    He should wear a red & white striped shirt and hat on the next interview.

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