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LibreOffice 4.1 Released 157

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An anonymous reader writes "The latest major release of the LibreOffice office suite has just been published, including an experimental improved sidebar based on the work of Apache OpenOffice, embedded fonts, better Microsoft Office compatibility (improving their exclusive capability in the free software world of not only being able to read but also write .docx and .xlsx files) and many further Improvements."
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LibreOffice 4.1 Released

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 25, 2013 @01:43PM (#44383315)

    LibreOffice & Apache OpenOffice should just merge in to one open source office suite.

    • by MetalliQaZ (539913) on Thursday July 25, 2013 @01:46PM (#44383355)

      LibreOffice & Apache OpenOffice should just merge in to one open source office suite.

      Based on the history of the creation of the LibreOffice project, I think that would never happen.

      • by Darinbob (1142669)

        We can merge them and call it Mega Office!

      • by hairyfeet (841228) <bassbeast1968&gmail,com> on Thursday July 25, 2013 @04:59PM (#44385357) Journal

        Uhhh...the creation of Libre Office came about because Oracle was being their usual dickish selves, I doubt you are gonna see that same attitude anywhere in the Apache foundation so that isn't the problem. The problem is that Apache is more of a BSD license and Libre is GPL, no point in starting up THAT old flamewar so lets just say they agree to disagree and move on.

        Now that said I think we should all give the Libre Office team another year and a half before we even start judging their work, because frankly Sun left that code in pretty damned bad shape and when you are talking about a project THAT size? Well its gonna take a good while just to clean out the cruft and straighten out the messes. Considering the short amount of time they have had it its already getting better, its just a shame the LO guys can share improvements with the Apache guys but due to license incompatibilities I just don't see that happening.

        • The problem is that Apache is more of a BSD license and Libre is GPL, no point in starting up THAT old flamewar so lets just say they agree to disagree and move on.

          Actually, they agree to cooperate and move on.

          3."Do you share code with Libre? sub question A: If so, will you soon both be even more similar -- in effect unforked? Sub question B: If you are not using each other's code, why not?"

          We cooperate and coordinate and share with LibreOffice, as well as other open source and even proprietary application vendors, in several ways

          https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/your_top_questions_answered [apache.org]

          That's the great benefit of FOSS projects. Their goals don't include locking users or developers down.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 25, 2013 @01:49PM (#44383399)

      LibreOffice already does this pretty much every release!

      The licensing for the two allows LO to take any of Apache's changes that they'd like (and they frequently do!), whereas the reverse would require Apache to change the OpenOffice licensing.

      Honestly though, as long as they both support the same file format, having two separate suites isn't a bad thing.

    • I agree
  • 3,000 bug fixes (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Trashcan Romeo (2675341) on Thursday July 25, 2013 @01:44PM (#44383317)
    How many to go?
  • Have they fixed the automatic update system yet? Or do I need to go and do it manually again like its the 90s?
  • improving their exclusive capability in the free software world of not only being able to read but also write .docx and .xlsx files)

    Is this really true? I mean, not an office suite, but PHPExcel can read and write Excel files.

  • paying the bills (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Almost-Retired (637760) on Thursday July 25, 2013 @02:44PM (#44383955)

    Having this done by a group of volunteers is nice & all that.

    BUT!

    These folks need to travel and smooze with others, both for the publicity, and to keep the ideas about how to do something fresh. Who knows, maybe one of them will put in that killer feature we've all been waiting for?

    So when you are done downloading it, take the time to donate, so maybe the 5.0 release can afford a bigger cake. The one I saw in the pix was about 5% of the size of the one it would take to feed all the volunteers a celebratory piece of cake, maybe even with a scoop of ice cream on top. IMNSHO, speaking as a retired person living on SS, I dropped the card to say thanks. Surely the working folks who will make better use of this than I ever will, can better afford to pull out the card?

    I would firmly suggest that others do the same if we want to see a 5.0 or higher release. Nothing kills a volunteer operation quicker than not being able to pay the bills.

    Cheers, Gene

    • by rduke15 (721841)

      Who knows, maybe one of them will put in that killer feature we've all been waiting for?

      Like making it able to write clean structured HTML for people who want to write (not code in a text editor)? That would be great, but I wouldn't count on it.

      Still waiting for the killer new generation word.processor which focuses on HTML instead of Letter/A4 printing...

    • So when you are done downloading it, take the time to donate, so maybe the 5.0 release can afford a bigger cake.

      This! Microsoft's stronghold on the Office front requires competition and the world in general needs an open office suit (creating documents is a basic task). Making software is hard and sponsoring it gives a nice boost to advance development.

  • The one change i really want to get them to implement is the two tone colors in the row and column headers in the spreadsheet program. As it is the top half of the column headers and the left half of the row headers is light grey, while the other half of each is dark grey. That probably seems like a pretty trivial complaint, and maybe it's just me, but something about having half the area light and the other half dark plays havoc with my brain and makes it hard to read the labels, especially for the row hea
  • Java to Python (Score:4, Interesting)

    by RoccamOccam (953524) on Thursday July 25, 2013 @03:28PM (#44384393)
    If I'm reading the new features page correctly, they appear to be seeing some pretty sizable code reduction in the utilities where they are replacing Java with Python. To avoid misunderstanding, let me point out that I am aware that only a few parts of the project were coded in Java and the bulk is in C++.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Still no Page Break line while in Web Layout view.

    The biggest setback from having LibreOffice implemented in my company. Word 97 had this feature!

  • by hobarrera (2008506) on Thursday July 25, 2013 @08:22PM (#44387119) Homepage

    There's two really critical (IMO) things that the LO devs keep missing:

    - Loading time: Libreoffice is the only application which takes time noticable time to load - anything else just pops up instantly. There's even a progress bar. That's too 1999. Only games take that long (or more) to load.
    - OS integration: Why is the look and feel so slightly alien on my desktop. I've set it to look gtkish, but it still looks alien, the icons have are different from the ones in my .gtkrc-2.0, and most text can barely fit the controls (since they don't seem to resize along with the text, which does respect DPI settings). All this makes me feel like I'm using something totally alien to my desktop, and I feel the need to get done with it and close it ASAP.

  • There's no need for OpenOffice and LibreOffice to merge. Yes it would be nice in so far as consolidating manpower and reducing confusion, but in terms of functionality and features, anything that is introduced in OpenOffice, the team at LibreOffice take and integrate into their package because they're perfectly allowed to by virtue of the license.

    So sticking with LO means you get the maximum number of features with no real loss apart from a less marketable name (which I'm beyond caring about at this point -

  • For example, I have clients who use passwords on their Word docx file in their Mac 2011 and Windows 2010 versions. Both OO and LO can't open them still. Full compatibility is still an issue for me. :(

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