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LibreOffice 4.2 Busts Out GPU Mantle Support and Corporate IT Integration 192

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Billly Gates points to this basic summary of the features of the recently released LibreOffice 2.4, writing: "In catching up with MS Office, the new LibreOffice 4.2 now has full Windows 7/8 integration including Aero peek, thumbnails, jumplists, and recent documents all from the taskbar. In addition, one weak area for LibreOffice has been enterprise network support and the lack of active directory tools: LibreOffice now has GPO and active directory support for system administrators to deploy and manage LibreOffice over corporate networks. LibreOffice also includes an expert configuration Window to assist power users and system administrators when deploying to hundreds of workstation at a time." Read on for some more details about the release, including some information about support for AMD's Mantle CPU acceleration support.
Also of particular interest is AMD/ATI is expecting to finally release Mantle in the next coming hours for games like Battlefield 4. Surprisingly LibreOffice also supports mantle as well according to the release notes. However you will need the 14.1 driver which is being compiled and uploaded at the time of this writing to utilize this feature. Mantle will accelerate lower-end CPUs by up to 300% in some tasks while having modest improvements for those with more recent powerful CPUs. Real niceties for those like myself on AMD phenom IIs with the later 7000 series cards.

The only issue (some on Slashdot may say benefit ) is the lack of a ribbon UI. However, for recent articles about governments considering OpenOffice this release addresses shortcomings with the new active directory and GPO support."
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LibreOffice 4.2 Busts Out GPU Mantle Support and Corporate IT Integration

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  • by StuartHankins (1020819) on Thursday January 30, 2014 @04:10PM (#46113455)
    4.2 not 2.4... are you messing with us intentionally, just to see who is awake?
    • Re:2.4? (Score:5, Funny)

      by Billly Gates (198444) on Thursday January 30, 2014 @04:13PM (#46113495) Journal

      It was made in reverse polish notation.

    • Also, I cannot find a citation for the Mantle support and find it odd that an office app would support something like that anyway. Also, it's not a CPU acceleration feature like the summary claims, although it frees up CPU time as being architecture-specific it is a much slimmer API than DX/GL.
      • Also, I cannot find a citation for the Mantle support and find it odd that an office app would support something like that anyway. Also, it's not a CPU acceleration feature like the summary claims, although it frees up CPU time as being architecture-specific it is a much slimmer API than DX/GL.

        ..."Finally, the Catalyst 14.1 driver is also the first HSA-enabled driver, which allows Kaveri APUs to intelligently cooperate with a GPU to share the workload. The only supporting applications listed by AMD at this time are LibreOffice v4.2.0.1+ and Core AfterShot Pro v1.2.0.6+, but it says more will come online soon."

        It is the second link from MaximumPC.

        • Correct me if Im wrong, but Mantle is an API like DirectX and has almost nothing to do with LibreOffice. That quote you mentioned doesnt mention mantle either, it mentions HSA which AFAICT is not the same thing.

          • LibreOffice uses GPU acceleration for various calculations. I'm not quite sure where Mantle plays into this, I'd have thought they'd use OpenCL, but perhaps they do use it somewhere (maybe for drawing charts?)
        • by exomondo (1725132)

          ..."Finally, the Catalyst 14.1 driver is also the first HSA-enabled driver, which allows Kaveri APUs to intelligently cooperate with a GPU to share the workload. The only supporting applications listed by AMD at this time are LibreOffice v4.2.0.1+ and Core AfterShot Pro v1.2.0.6+, but it says more will come online soon."

          It is the second link from MaximumPC.

          That doesn't say anything about Mantle, in fact the source code contains no references to Mantle and the Mantle SDK hasn't even been publicly released. Summary is wrong, the link says nothing about Mantle in LibreOffice.

      • There isn't one. It's gone full-circle; Top results are from sites citing Slashdot saying "Mantle support" when it's only the goon who wrote the title saying "Mantle support". They actually mean OpenCL support for parallel processing of cell formula.

        Slashdot editing at its finest. Again.
  • Unclear if I can get a copy without all this unwanted bloat.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 30, 2014 @04:16PM (#46113519)

      It may be unwanted bloat for the home user, but it's absolutely essential features in the corporate world. All it really needs is a decent component selection in the installer though to have it both ways.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Unclear if I can get a copy without all this unwanted bloat.

      Yes, use vi for your documents. There's also a spreadsheet called sc, haven't tried it though.

      • by jedidiah (1196) on Thursday January 30, 2014 @05:43PM (#46114521) Homepage

        >> Unclear if I can get a copy without all this unwanted bloat.
        >
        > Yes, use vi for your documents. There's also a spreadsheet called sc, haven't tried it though.

        If it is a simple document, why not?

        You also don't need the proprietary network effects and malware vectors associated with more 'feature rich" alternatives.

    • What about OneNote? Anything about a Libre OneNote? It's the only thing keeping me on Windows.
      • Re:OneNote (Score:5, Insightful)

        by JackieBrown (987087) <dbroome@gmail.com> on Thursday January 30, 2014 @05:49PM (#46114589)

        Be honest... it will be something else holding you back once they have that.

        It's a nice, moving, unattainable goalpost that people like to set up

      • LOL... first you fully commit yourself to a Microsoft-only product, then you talk about "keeping me on Windows".

        • Yes, I guess I did kind of shoot myself in the foot on that one. The sofware was included when I bought my laptop. I started using it, and got hooked. Now all my notes are in a piece of software with no export capability.
    • If it'd still reliably run on 64-bit systems, my suggestion would be to try and get a copy of StarOffice 5.2, the ancestor. No version of OpenOffice[.org] or LibreOffice has met my demands as well yet. Unfortunately, it doesn't. So what I'm doing today is running StarOffice 5.2 on 32-bit systems, like my netbook, and OpenOffice 3.3 on 64-bit systems, which is the latest of the StarOffice descendants still capable of saving documents in StarOffice 5 compatible format. (StarOffice 5 binary formats are still f

    • by dbIII (701233)
      With modular stuff you can ignore bloat so long as you have enough spare disk space.
  • Universal Disgust (Score:3, Interesting)

    by gr4nf (1348501) on Thursday January 30, 2014 @04:17PM (#46113529)

    The only issue (some on Slashdot may say benefit ) is the lack of a ribbon UI.

    The majority of Office power users I know (mostly lawyers) were disgusted by the replacement of the menu-driven UI with the infamous ribbon. It's not just left-brained Slashdotters that prefer an easily navigable interface.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Billly Gates (198444)

      I am in the minority here I guess.

      I did not like the menus in office 2003 as things became nested and it kept taking up time and felt like Windows 8 closed door syndrome to use an advanced function.

      It took a week to adjust and probably a month to get really proficient. Hit the alt key if you like shortcuts? See the numbers and letters? You can use the ribbon without a mouse for any function!

      I also like the ribbon because I can visually see the changes before selecting. It is really handy when cutting and pa

    • by kyrsjo (2420192)

      Totally agree. Lack of "ribbon" UI (or at least not forcing it on the user) is a feature, not something I would miss.

  • by Billly Gates (198444) on Thursday January 30, 2014 @04:18PM (#46113543) Journal

    I submitted the story.

    While ATI has listed LibreOffice for one of the few programs that use Mantle [maximumpc.com] I can not find any other information on this?

    This begs to differ if LibreOffice uses GPU directwrite or OpenGL and does it work on platforms than Windows. Of course this is not critical unless you do multimedia heavy presentations I am somewhat curious. I wonder if anyone who develops it can care to comment?

    Also I use LibreOffice in conjunction with MS Office. I can't afford publisher and it is nice to use it to repair office documents that MS Office says are corrupt. This is a highly recommended upgrade even if you use MS Office full time.

    • by edxwelch (600979)

      I think Mantle is only used by games. Libreoffice is probably using OpenCL. Maybe the poster got confused because the update includes both things.

      • by 0123456 (636235)

        I think Mantle is only used by games. Libreoffice is probably using OpenCL. Maybe the poster got confused because the update includes both things.

        I'm still trying to understand exactly what kind of obscene spreadhseet abuse would actually require GPU accelerated math.

        • by rtaylor (70602)

          Perhaps it'll help with conditional aggregates which are painfully slow in Libreoffice with only a few thousand records.

          For example, sum the $D column when the $E column matches year '2013'. Basically anything involving squiggly brackets around a SUM equation:

          {=SUM(($E$1:$E$65518=$A6) * ($D$1:$D$65518))}

      • by Luckyo (1726890)

        https://www.libreoffice.org/do... [libreoffice.org]

        A new engine for Calc - massive parallel calculations of formula cells using GPU via OpenCL are now possible thanks to our new formular interpreter.

        Indeed it's openCL.

      • by dbIII (701233)
        Older versions of openoffice/libreoffice definitely use video acceleration features in the slideshow thing - "impress". Perhaps that's where mantle comes in.
    • by exomondo (1725132)

      While ATI has listed LibreOffice for one of the few programs that use Mantle [maximumpc.com] I can not find any other information on this?

      They didn't list it as using Mantle. The title of the article is "Mantle update, frame pacing fixes, and more arriving soon". The article first discusses Mantle, then goes on to discuss frame pacing then at the end is the only mention of LibreOffice in the article:

      Finally, the Catalyst 14.1 driver is also the first HSA-enabled driver, which allows Kaveri APUs to intelligently cooperate with a GPU to share the workload. The only supporting applications listed by AMD at this time are LibreOffice v4.2.0.1+ an

  • Yet... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by edibobb (113989) on Thursday January 30, 2014 @04:40PM (#46113769) Homepage
    ... you still cannot perform a search and replace using manual page breaks. A simple shortcoming, but it keeps me from being able to dump MS Office.
  • As someone using LibreOffice to write a huge manuscript that has been in development for several years, I would like some really good change control tools. I may be dense, and not quite understanding the problem, but it seems to me that integrating LibreOffice with Github to support distributed editing of huge projects, and version control, would be a natural... Am I just to ignorant to understand why this isn't being done? -Stony
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A... [wikipedia.org]

    Mantle is a low-level API specification developed by AMD as an alternative to Direct3D and OpenGL, primarily for use on the PC platform.

    Emphasis mine. I can't be the only one seeing this as a bad strategy (versus pushing this into Openxx).

  • Even Foxit has got that horrible thing now.
  • I had a few problem case .docx's that I had lying around that came from MS Office users. I am happy to report that they have rendered correctly for the first time in LO 4.2. Well done !
    And finally the taskbar/aero peek stuff finally behaves properly on Windows !
    Pet peeve taken care of ! I also feel a certain improvement in speed and responsiveness in general Nice nice nice.
  • The only way I find out a new version of LibreOffice is available is either by visiting the website and click on download to see the version number or when someone posts something on slashdot.

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