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Malaysian Passenger Plane Reportedly Shot Down Over Ukraine 752

Posted by Unknown Lamer
from the can't-we-all-get-along dept.
An anonymous reader writes The Russian newswire service Interfax is reporting that a Malaysian passenger plane carrying 295 people was shot down with a Buk ground-to-air missile over Ukraine near the Russian border. The Associated Press cites an adviser to Ukraine's Interior Minister as the source. First reports are that it was mistaken for a Ukrainian AN-26. Malaysia airlines confirms they lost contact with the plane (last known position), but there's no confirmation it was shot down (yet). The Ukrainian government accused Russia of shooting down a fighter jet in Ukrainian airspace last night. Reports indicate there are no survivors.
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Malaysian Passenger Plane Reportedly Shot Down Over Ukraine

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  • Wow. Terrble Turn. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MightyYar (622222) on Thursday July 17, 2014 @11:29AM (#47475705)

    What a horrible tragedy, and one that changes the political climate considerably. Obama will face much less resistance from Europe if Russia turns out to be responsible. It also gives the Ukraine a reason to call in US "specialists" for help with the investigation.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 17, 2014 @11:37AM (#47475787)

      Pro-russian separatist claimed it, wonder if they are still cheering:
      http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_7256 [vk.com]

  • Seems like old times (Score:4, Informative)

    by wiredog (43288) on Thursday July 17, 2014 @11:31AM (#47475739) Journal

    For those of us old enough to remember The USS Vincennes [wikipedia.org].

  • by spacefight (577141) on Thursday July 17, 2014 @11:38AM (#47475799)
  • by Zanadou (1043400) on Thursday July 17, 2014 @11:39AM (#47475825)

    Recorded flight path: http://flightaware.com/live/fl... [flightaware.com]

    Bubble and froth: http://www.airliners.net/aviat... [airliners.net]

    • Actually, that FlightAware tracking tells the tale on this I believe.

      If you look at the other flights for that route, they travel further south by about 40-60 miles than the one that got shot down.

      This plane was off course at least compared to the other flights. Whether that has anything to do with it, hard to tell....
  • by SpzToid (869795) on Thursday July 17, 2014 @11:44AM (#47475879)

    That rag tag militia got lucky it seems, with a direct hit no less. Those light ammunitions gathered from round the house, what the odd Klashnikov and what have you.

    Speculation at this point is this is what those rag-taggers managed to bring it down with: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new... [telegraph.co.uk]

  • by kevloral (786401) on Thursday July 17, 2014 @11:56AM (#47476021)
    This is a capture of the message in the VK network sent by Russian GRU officer Strelkov admitting that he ordered the missile strike against the Malaysian jet: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs... [twimg.com]
  • Possible factor (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Kyogreex (2700775) on Thursday July 17, 2014 @12:13PM (#47476229)
    Firstly, I'd like to note that I'm not placing blame with any particular party or saying that this was definitely an incident where the plane was shot down. With that said, the plane was in the older Malysia Airlines livery, which has the bottom of the fuselage and engine nacelles painted grey. Perhaps this could contribute to it being mistaken for a military transport by inexperienced or trigger-happy forces, as it would be a similar color to that used on those transports. I hope the truth of this incident can be found without politics getting in the way on every side. The crew and passengers deserve it.
    • by gtall (79522)

      At that height, they'd have had to use a telescope. More likely the separatists were trigger happy and they had a handy missile.

    • Re:Possible factor (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 17, 2014 @12:51PM (#47476643)

      Paint? The civilian airliner had an operational transponder ... if anyone at the SAM site cared to listen.
      These are folks who can't be bothered to be careful, and probably don't care much they made a mistake.

  • by QuietLagoon (813062) on Thursday July 17, 2014 @01:07PM (#47476773)
    From the BBC [bbc.com]:

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    19:00:

    A tweet (in Russian) from a key Twitter account used by pro-Russian separatists, in which they claim to have captured a Buk surface-to-air missile system, has now been deleted, BBC Monitoring observes. Ukrainians say the Malaysian plane could have been downed with a Buk, but pro-Russian rebels have now denied they have it.

  • by Erikderzweite (1146485) on Thursday July 17, 2014 @02:30PM (#47477503)

    I am confused: here is the route of that flight: http://de.flightaware.com/live... [flightaware.com]
    But if you look for older dates, you'll see that the route is much more to the south, almost above Crimea (about 300-350 km deviation depending on the date you choose), e.g. http://de.flightaware.com/live... [flightaware.com]

    Are such deviations normal or could the flight be directed that far to the north by ground control? (Not an expert, just curious).

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