Google's Megan Smith Would Be First US CTO Worthy of the Title 117
theodp writes: Bloomberg is reporting that Google X's Megan Smith is the top candidate for U.S. Chief Technology Officer. With a BS/MS in Mechanical Engineering from MIT, and experience ranging from General Magic to Google, Smith would arguably be the first U.S. CTO worthy of the title (the outgoing U.S. CTO has a bachelor's in Econ; his predecessor has a master's in Public Policy). "Smith joined Google in 2003. As vice president of business development, she oversaw many of its most important acquisitions, like Keyhole, the service that underlies Google Earth. She has led the company’s philanthropic division, Google.org, and served as a co-host for Google’s Solve for X forum, where distinguished thinkers and scientists brainstorm radical technology ideas with Google executives."
Does this office need Congressional approval? (Score:1)
Because while she is quite qualified for the position I can bet that some in Congress will not only have an issue with her gender but also her sexual orientation.
Note that I do not believe this should be an issue at all, but reality is often different from what we would hope.
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Only if it's overt and provable.
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Like racial, national, religious, and age discrimination, gender discrimination can often be hidden behind other practices. The old Youtube video about hiring only H1B candidates is an excellent guideline on how to hire only members of your preferred social groups. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] ) Simply fillin your preferred gender, age, skin color, religioon, or nationality for the word "H1B" in the presentation.
One of the most powerful forms of gender discrimination in the technology world is the in
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Fanning the flames only makes it worse, is the thing. To most people, left and right, it simply doesn't matter. Let it be. Deny the stage those who want your gender or whatever the only thing that's important about you. End the conversation, deflate the energy, lets things that shouldn't matter lie there and not matter.
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I never said there wasn't.
Re:Does this office need Congressional approval? (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, these days, it's the lefties who poison the well of every issue with race and sex to justify passing laws that legislate privilege;
Since she's gay, I would assume what you're ranting about in this case is the "privilege" of being allowed to marry the person you love.
Nice.
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Re:Does this office need Congressional approval? (Score:4, Insightful)
Pfft. She's more likely to be discriminated against because of the uppity black man who nominated her.
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It's cute how you completely ignore that there are people who would 100% vote FOR a person because they were a woman and/or gay. Those on the left ADORE such people. I suspect the support FOR such a person is, these days, approaching the level of the bigotry AGAINST such a person so as to cancel each other out.
Similar is the harping on the left about the racism Obama overcame to become elected, completely ignoring the racism that worked FOR Obama, who achieved about 95% of the black vote. This put him ov
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A perfect example of why a democracy was the LAST thing the founders of the country wanted. They designed it as a Republic.
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The name of the country is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
It is a democracy or a republic only in name. It is in fact an absolute monarchy.
Re:Does this office need Congressional approval? (Score:5, Interesting)
Because while she is quite qualified for the position I can bet that some in Congress will not only have an issue with her gender but also her sexual orientation.
Note that I do not believe this should be an issue at all, but reality is often different from what we would hope.
Trust me, congress doesn't give a crap about who or what she is. What they care about is if they can use her to hurt their political opponents.
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No one in either party's base gives a fuck about the gender or orientation of the holder of some office they've never heard of and will never care about. Maybe a few geeks care about this? Maybe?
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No one in either party's base gives a fuck about the gender or orientation of the holder of some office they've never heard of and will never care about. Maybe a few geeks care about this? Maybe?
No position or issue is too obscure for congress and their PR agency, Fox News, to use as ammunition against the president.
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Man, you're so right: Fox News will totally sabotage Obama's re-election chances over this! News of the complete disaster which is the president's foreign policy will be bumped below the fold for 24-hour coverage of "office no one cares about"!
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If you had an actual point to make, we all missed it.
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Definitely. Members of both parties will use her that way, without giving a crap who or what she is.
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It is the Senate that approves or denies Presidential appointees that actually require approval.
For what it is worth, the US CTO position was created by President Obama, just as he and his predecessor made up numerous Czar positions. Unlike the Czar positions that are created, this one actually does go through the approval process. However, considering that the first person to gain the title of the position was the secretary of technology (effectively the state-level equivalent) led to the near-collapse of
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but no one of relevancy is going to throw themselves under the bus to stop a Googler from getting a CTO position during an election cycle that the Republicans hope to win the majority in.
They don't just throw themselves under the bus, they pile up in front of it. It whips the base into a feeding frenzy.
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It whips the Democrats into a frenzy? Indeed. It even stirs up some of the Republicans.
They need an issue beyond 'Incompetent President' to stir up voters. That elephant is in the room but it's boring to the public.
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"I have personally dated 3 women who have both beaten me, stole from me, and cheated on me..."... Don't see how that makes me a "privileged conservative white man."
Not even a marginally educated man. Re-read that first sentence you wrote, and you tell us what's wrong with it.
Revolving door (Score:2, Interesting)
Her coming from Google matters more than her degree. Revolving door politics is bad news for the consumer and for smaller businesses.
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Revolving door politics is the foundation of the ruling class, the true elites, the true 1%. It's probably the largest discriminator of all
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How about any competent tech person whose company isn't on the president's top donor list [opensecrets.org]? There are lots of smart people who don't work for Google, Microsoft, etc. Why start with someone who has already walked inside the revolving door?
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Don't underestimate the importance of the right education. Our company almost collapsed under the stupid organizational structure put in place by our last CIO, who was not an engineer, and had no idea how engineers work. I never before realized how much damage an org chart could do.
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Do not base your opinion on someone by the subject of their degree.
You can be an engineer without ever attending university.
You can get a Masters in computer science and still know fuck all about technology, information or otherwise.
I'd far rather have someone with in-depth hands-on industry experience making decisions than some academic with no real-world understanding, whatever their underlying academic discipline was.
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I'd far rather have someone with in-depth hands-on industry experience making decisions than some academic with no real-world understanding, whatever their underlying academic discipline was.
Academia is part of the real world, easily as much as industry is. Furthermore, the most fundemental breakthroughs tend to come from academia. So, what's your beef?
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Academia is part of the real world, easily as much as industry is.
HA HA HA hee hee hee ha. Wait, you were serious?
Academia, technically, is part of the "real world." It's just the part with 180 degree different rules and priorities than the "industry" part that employs most Americans is. I have plenty of friends in academia and I love them to death but when we compare "what's happening at work" I will talk about the life or death of some multi-million dollar project that's keeping me up at night, and they will reveal their big pain point at work is that some guy caused an
Story is false (Score:5, Insightful)
From the link BY THE FUCKING CONTRIBUTOR HIMSELF:
Prior to his career in government, Park was the co-founder of two successful health information technology companies.
So a man who started two IT companies by the age of 35 doesn't have a background in Technology, because he got a graduate degree in business?
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It Won't Make Any Difference (Score:1)
You could have the smartest and most qualified person on the planet in that position and it wouldn't make any difference. Governments in general and the US Government especially are bunglers. They mess things up and make problems worse. If she's smart, it should only take her six months or less to figure out that she's being used for PR purposes because she's a smart women with a tech degree, not because anybody in the government bureaucracy is actually going to change anything. Think about the kind of pers
As a girl working in tech... (Score:2, Interesting)
I hate to see things like this happen. Appointing her just because she is female cheapens what I've done. Just as the joke of a new CEO of Microsoft who was picked for his race pisses off my Indian friends, this is the same deal.
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Correct. In this case, she's female and she's gay. It's a PR stunt that hurts equal opportunity for every woman to prove herself to her peers.
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So you think appointing a woman to a political position... hurts equal opportunity for women?
You seem to be working on the assumption that a lesbian inherently can't be a reasonable choice without taking PR into account.
Why don't you think this person's proved herself and in what scenario would you think that the political appointment of a lesbian isn't primarily for PR reasons?
Re:As a girl working in tech... (Score:5, Insightful)
I hate to see things like this happen.
What appointing a CTO based on the fact that the CTO is actually substantially more expert in technology than any of the previous CTOs appointed in that position?
Appointing her just because she is female cheapens what I've done.
You seem to be assuming that the reason she's being picked is something other than her track record---a track record which is impressive. That reflects more on you than on her or the people who picked her.
Just as the joke of a new CEO of Microsoft who was picked for his race pisses off my Indian friends, this is the same deal.
If your friends are claiming that Microsoft would poor candidates based on race then I'd advise to inquire how they think Microsoft chose Ballmer. He's white in case you hadn't noticed and was terrible.
Megan (Score:1)
Mechanical engineering? Really? No way. Strong cyber computer science credentials are needed.
With no power comes little responsability (Score:2)
This sounds mostly political, then a bit managerial, then a teeny weeny bit technical. And from what I've read before, that post is mostly a bully pulpit with 0 effective power.
I'm sure each and every budgeting unit have their own systems, their own standards, their own teams, and their own kickbacks -sorry, suppliers. Standardizing, rationalizing and unifying all that is a bit technical, but, mostly, political.
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Umm if it had zero effective power it certainly wouldn't be a bully pulpit. In fact it wouldn't even be a regular pulpit.
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Umm if it had zero effective power it certainly wouldn't be a bully pulpit. In fact it wouldn't even be a regular pulpit.
Agreed. The U.S. federal government is so incredibly goofed up right now that the practical impact of this appointment will be approximately nil.
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from wikipedia:
"A bully pulpit is a position sufficiently conspicuous to provide an opportunity to speak out and be listened to."
Not to "do", not to "enforce".. just to "be heard".
Sounds apt to me.
What about the other applicants? (Score:4, Interesting)
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We can't fairly judge whether or not she'd be a good fit because we have no idea what the alternatives are.
No: whether a candidate is a good fit is independent of the other candidates. Whether a candidate is the best fit depends on teh other candidates. However, given the previous appointees, Smith would be the most qualified CTO so far.
So, Smith is a very good fit. Others may be better, but given historical trends it seems unlikely.
Fuck you theodp/soulskill (Score:1)
Overqualified for the position. (Score:2)
Government wasn't about your qualifications, but about which party is in control and how much the person put in that position could further their agenda.
A real qualification should be... (Score:3)
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While I suppose that this kind of attitude, if indeed she does think this way, would make her a terrible Secretary of Labor or Commerce, the office of CTO of the United States would require a different way of thinking than other departments of the Executive Branch. Presumably her job, if she gets it, would require her to apply technology to policy problems. If that is the case, then somebody "brought up in the culture of Google solutionism" would be perfect for a position like this one.
The higher they rise, the harder they fall (Score:1)
Isn't this where... (Score:2)
...we start talking about how disadvantaged women are in tech, and how we need to throw money at the problem or something?
Degree is not all that relevant (Score:4, Insightful)
There is no doubt that she has the chops and anyone would be lucky to snare an executive with her background and talents. But the article's focus on what degree she has is just silly. The brightest developer I ever knew had a degree in chemistry. The best Director of development I ever hired was an Air Force tech. The best COO I ever worked for was a lawyer / polysci major with no business classes under his belt. The best Director of IT I ever had earned an associates degree and got her A+ certification to get her first job.
Meanwhile, the worst Director of Development I ever had was an MS of CompSci with an MBA. Guy was a tool and an idiot. The worst COO I ever had was an MBA with top grades from a top school. The worst CFO I ever worked with was a chemistry major. OK, that one kinda goes against my point. Forget about him.
Still, my point stands:
If you are still worrying about your degree 20 years out of college, you haven't done anything.
An actual technologist, no MBA - right on! (Score:3)
Schooling Doesn't Make the Technologist (Score:2)
The idea that you must have a technical degree to be "worthy" of the CTO title is idiotic. Stupidest Slashdot submission ever.
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Re:Pussy Power! (Score:4, Insightful)
Who the hell modded this shit up?
This story isn't about gender issues, it's about tech issues. Smith seems to be the first candidate for the CTO who actually has a damn clue about the Tech in the Chief TECHNOLOGY Office position.
Previous appointees have been from tech businesses but have had a business background. Smith has an engineering background and has been working actually doing tech.
I mean, when was the last time you heard there isn't enough men employees in female dominated industries?
How about every single fucking time this topic comes up on slashdot and people post scads of links about campaigns to do exactly this in order to counter this ridiculous and pernicious piece of misinformation?