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The Almighty Buck Government

Airbnb To Start Collecting Hotel Tax On Rentals In San Francisco 71

An anonymous reader writes Airbnb announced that it will begin collecting a 14% occupancy tax on behalf of its San Francisco hosts October 1. "This is the culmination of a long process that began earlier this year when we announced our intent to help collect and remit occupancy taxes in San Francisco," wrote Airbnb public policy leader David Owen. The company already collects taxes in Portland, and has discussed the possibility of collecting taxes in New York.
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Airbnb To Start Collecting Hotel Tax On Rentals In San Francisco

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 17, 2014 @07:34PM (#47932649)

    Why stay in a hotel when you can stay on the road? Now, with UberRV, you can move around and avoid any pesky taxes. The law says if you're not parked, you're not living there, or at least that's what we're claiming this week. AirBNB is old news thanks to UberRV.

  • How long until companies realize they can save 15,000-30,000 on paying their software engineers that telecommute. It is silly to require a programmer to be on site anyway. You gain some extra time out of him each day because he doesn't have to commute, and less distractions mean you get more productivity. If you don't trust your coders to do work, just set up a version control repository and make sure some stuff is done each day.
    • by AuMatar ( 183847 ) on Wednesday September 17, 2014 @07:57PM (#47932765)

      Because face time is important. Interacting with coworkers is important. Being able to go over a design at a whiteboard together rather than reading the same powerpoint slide separately is important. THe best ideas I've had in my career have been created as a result of talking to my coworkers over lunch/coffee break/tangent from another discussion. Telecommuting is a loss to productivity even if they are perfect about actually working (which having done it for a year- its not an easy thing to do, there's a lot of temptations). Its not only easily worth 15-30k, its worth 2-3 times that to have then onsite. That's ignoring the fact that a large number of people won't be on point when working from home- many without even meaning to cheat the system.

      • Because face time is important. Interacting with coworkers is important. Being able to go over a design at a whiteboard together rather than reading the same powerpoint slide separately is important. THe best ideas I've had in my career have been created as a result of talking to my coworkers over lunch/coffee break/tangent from another discussion. Telecommuting is a loss to productivity even if they are perfect about actually working (which having done it for a year- its not an easy thing to do, there's a lot of temptations). Its not only easily worth 15-30k, its worth 2-3 times that to have then onsite. That's ignoring the fact that a large number of people won't be on point when working from home- many without even meaning to cheat the system.

        As a developer I'll just say that "face time" and interacting with coworkers are two of the main impediments to me getting shit done.

        • As a developer I'll just say that "face time" and interacting with coworkers are two of the main impediments to me getting shit done.

          That's because you're a curmudgeon. :)

          Obviously the people we work with can be distractions, but there's value in being in proximity with the team you work with at least some of the time even if that time is spent just building a sense of being a team.

          I have the ability to WFH about 1 day a week now, and previously could do about 2. But I'm not sure even I'd want to do 5 if it were offered. My wife, who does sales, works out of our home (another reason not to be there, amirite!), but even she treks into t

          • For me, time away from home is mostly work, and the longevity of the working experience is in inverse proportion to my appreciation of the down time.

            I would have to work (away from home) at something, at least part of the time, even if money was no longer a consideration.

            Too many days off in a row and I don't have anything to measure against.

      • by klui ( 457783 )

        Assuming you work with people in your office. Due to globalization, there are a lot of groups that are dispersed and people work with others across cities, states, continents for a majority of their work.

      • by gnupun ( 752725 )

        Because face time is important. Interacting with coworkers is important.

        Not really. Face time is very little unless you're a manager type of employee and you can interact with coworkers over phone/video chat. They want employees on site so they can keep an eye on them, i.e. personally supervise them, otherwise the employees are likely to goof off.

      • I think it's more important to have the option of being able to remote work if you choose to. Not even to remote work, but being able to roll in at midday and leave at 8pm. Let your workers work on their schedule, unless their role is something that demands a normal business day e.g. client/partner facing. I personally wouldn't enjoy working from home full time; I don't have the self control to not get sidetracked with other projects I have going. I do, however, like turning up late morning and working
        • In almost any situation, you're going to have to have some defined times to directly interact with people. Nobody cares when I show up or leave as long as I don't abuse that, but there are meetings I normally have to attend.

    • You gain some extra time out of him each day because he doesn't have to commute

      No, they don't. At least my organization doesn't. My workday starts at xx:30, and ends at yy:zz. Whether I am telecommuting or not.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      How long until companies realize they can save 15,000-30,000 on paying their software engineers that telecommute.

      It isn't that easy.

      No, I'm not going to be Douchey McOfficedroneson and whine about "face time" (2005 called, and I believe I made out the words, "video", "conference", "skype", "you stupid excuse-spewing bitches") and other such nonsense.

      Rather, when home becomes your place of work, you no longer have a home.

      Do that for ten years. I have.

      I'd murder someone to attend a boring, incoherent PowerPoint presentation. Hell, at this point, I'd actually stay awake during said presentation.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Posting as anon so I don't lose my mod points.

    I just booked a cottage in Portland, OR for 4 nights. The price on the website was $65 a night - seemed reasonable. Price after AirBNB Fees and PDX Tax? $110 a night. Give me a break. Almost double for the fees? The tax was something like $14 a night, so AirBNB was pocketing a big chuck of money every fucking night. Last time I use them. Back to the Hilton for me; as a member I get a decent breakfast, access to the Executive Floor (free food and wine in

  • Cities don't give a ratfuck if your neighbors are pissed off. All they worry about is the tax. 14%? That's a steal compared to some places. That will of course double soon.

  • Get it's pound of flesh. Here in RI they charge an extra 1% on prepared meals. One of these days I can see Chinese food places and pizza parlors just delivering raw ingredients to the customer.

    Better yet - overnight parking permits are $100 per year. Except where I live it's so fucking dense the house across from me has THREE cars parked on my side of the street. Good thing I don't have a car. And when I do finally give in and buy a car again I'll just make my own permit. Not many security features built

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