Leaked Docs Reveal List of 30 Countries Hacked On Orders of FBI Informant Sabu 78
blottsie writes A Federal Bureau of Investigation informant targeted more than two dozen countries in a series of high-profile cyberattacks in 2012. The names of many of those countries have remained secret, under seal by a court order—until now. A cache of leaked IRC chat logs and other documents obtained by the Daily Dot reveals the 30 countries—including U.S. partners, such as the United Kingdom and Australia—tied to cyberattacks carried out under the direction of Hector Xavier Monsegur, better known as Sabu, who served as an FBI informant at the time of the attacks.
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Likewise, invading and killing citizen(s) of another country is not attacking that country?
What's your theory of the relationship between a citizen and their country?
Re:Repeat after me (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, you would be attacking Mexico. The proper thing to do would be to report the situation to Mexico and work with them for redress by due process of law. That's why we have the notion of "jurisdiction". Doing whatever you wish to, to their citizens, at your personal discretion, is indeed attacking Mexico, both their citizens and their legal system. As well as being murder.
Are you really trying a "think of the children" justification... on Slashdot?
Re:Repeat after me (Score:4, Interesting)
So, if I walk outside my door and slap my neighbor, am I attacking my own country?
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Re: Repeat after me (Score:3, Interesting)
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Many of sites attacked in Brasil were goverment sites. Yes thats attacking a country ...
No it's not. Bra[sz]il != Bra[sz]il's political regime, now or ever. Don't think like a nationalistic slave.
... and i hope ma goverment arrest any FBI agente in brazillian soil.
Me too, but I suspect it would be CIA instead (if they're still pulling this !@#$ as they long have; hi Chiquita).
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I'm drunk. Caveat emptor.
... we have no secret of any importance to be spied about...
Secrets? Ptheh. You have resources. Chiquita running rampant in the Amazon? Who do we bribe?
Meanwhile, what's "your government" doing? Bulldozing future World Cup venues/poor people's slums/homes?
[People should read more SciFi.]
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apparently cotton subsidies.
http://online.wsj.com/articles... [wsj.com]
short and long of it. complaint brought and won by brazil over US cotton subsidies in 2004. penalty of 800 million. Decided to go with 150 million a year.
Washington stopped paying during sequester last year. Brazil threatened to go to the WTO again, they settled for one more payment of 300 million.
so by my count that's 1.5 billion ish for an initial fine of 800 million.
Re: Repeat after me (Score:5, Insightful)
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In theory we might actually see the US government held accountable.
Ahahahahahahahahahah...
Oh, sorry. For a moment I thought you were serious.
Funny Stuff! (Score:3)
Oh, my aching sides! Are you here all week?
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Valid. That said, the government needs to be more careful.
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Repeat after me, hacking someone in another country is different than hacking that country.
Damned [Ll]ibertarians. Sigh.
Hi. Me too! :-) You ****ing Murricans, you let cash == speech, and now you're suggesting individual actions == $bad_country act of war? Shouldn't you look into who $attacker's boss/paymaster is first?
[sorry for perlisms, really]
yes, but the usa authorites said it means WAR (Score:4, Insightful)
and I seriously doubt that they sought permission from congress or even the president to go into war with UK...
so is hacking an act of war or not? obviously not.
and now, why would any of those countries arrest anyone and ship them to USA for hacking when USA claims that they're criminals?
(actually this whole thing is result of the fucked fucked fucked up way that is the american criminal "investigation" which basically in many cases is creating crime so that they can then catch the criminals for crimes the authorities arranged to happen)
FBI hidden agenda (Score:5, Insightful)
They can spin this any way they want, but the only explanation that makes sense is that they were hoping that this operation would at some point lead them to Assange (who had prior contacts with Sabu). Shame on them.
FBI hidden agenda (Score:2)
The US was finding out about computer networks around the world.
Information was flowing back to the US using consumer grade networks and tools found in the wild using the pubic as cover.
Recall Operation CHAOS (or Operation MHCHAOS) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] and COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Just like now domestic groups where needed with liaison services.
Re:FBI hidden agenda (Score:4, Insightful)
They can spin this any way they want, but the only explanation that makes sense is that they were hoping that this operation would at some point lead them to Assange (who had prior contacts with Sabu). Shame on them.
What's really astonishing is they needed to resort to this despite the billions they've sunk into the NSA and their obvious and complete disregard for even the fundamental principles of law and the constitution.
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Suck a dick, you fucking stupid cocksucker. You don't have a FUCKING CLUE what you are talking about. Be comfortable in your beliefs that the only thing the US government is trying to do is illegally spy on Americans.
If you'd stop sucking the governments dick you might notice that it was a call on results which they should be delivering any year now. Doesn't matter which laws they break, you only break them if in dire need and for direct result. You don't aggravate foreign countries for nothing either.
So either they like people hating them, their country and fellow citizen or they just can't cope with all the data they got in time to be effective. It appears to be the latter as the invest heavily in data mining reseach.
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The reality is was all about FBI agents with delusions of grandeur of pursuing 'Anonymous' and breaking open of global network of tens of thousands cyber activists. One giant global 'criminal' fishing expedition, with agents so blinded by the idea of becoming special agent super heroes then ended up breaking laws all over the planet without the permission or legal authority of those countries networks they were hacking.
This brings to mind the recent US proesecution of four individuals and the claims of h
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One giant global 'criminal' fishing expedition, with agents so blinded by the idea of becoming special agent super heroes then ended up breaking laws all over the planet without the permission or legal authority of those countries networks they were hacking.
HAHAHAHA. There's no way that this went down without the blessing of the superiors. None. They knew what they were doing, and they did it on purpose.
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Keep in mind wrinkly old scroat types with no idea at all what computers do, how they work, what networks are, just signing off on crap to make it look like they know what they are doing and why they are doing it. The only really actively corrupt department head looking to create his own power base of extortion and blackmail was the NSA guy and that particular delusion was fully expressed in his egoistic startrek command centre. The rest are just peter principle types who have been promoted beyond their ca
Assange hacked Icelandic Ministry? (Score:1)
The only other explanation being yet another attempt to discredit Assange by linking him to alleged attempts to 'hack' the Icelandic Ministry of Finance.
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The only other explanation being yet another attempt to discredit Assange by linking him to alleged attempts to 'hack' the Icelandic Ministry of Finance.
I would believe that Icelandic matters interest the FSB more than the FBI...
Sabu? (Score:1)
Sabutage? Was the title of this Slashdot post hacked by the FBI as well? :-/
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(10:05:05 PM) leondavidson@jabber.org/a12dcd98a30c36c2: @danawhite ceo of ufc.com basically challenging us to hack ufc again
(10:05:12 PM) leondavidson@jabber.org/a12dcd98a30c36c2: saying we are terrorists
(10:05:15 PM) yohoho@jabber.ccc.de: lol
(10:05:16 PM) leondavidson@jabber.org/a12dcd98a30c36c2: and we can't hack his shit
(10:05:20 PM) leondavidson@jabber.org/a12dcd98a30c36c2: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?
q=cache:wpl8k-4wsVMJ:bars.ufc.com/bar/jbs-sports-bar/fl/us/5560/ufc-rio-/%3Frelease%3D1%26profile%3DiPhone+site:ufc.com+mysql&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
(10:05:27 PM) leondavidson@jabber.org/a12dcd98a30c36c2: bars.ufc.com got some sqli
(10:05:30 PM) yohoho@jabber.ccc.de: hack it again? what's the point
(10:05:43 PM) leondavidson@jabber.org/a12dcd98a30c36c2: we didn't hack it in the first place
(10:05:50 PM) leondavidson@jabber.org/a12dcd98a30c36c2: t was a dns hijack by some other niggas
(10:05:58 PM) leondavidson@jabber.org/a12dcd98a30c36c2: the point would be the lulz
(10:06:30 PM) yohoho@jabber.ccc.de: oh right hah
What about Israel? (Score:3, Informative)
Considering that Israel spies on the United States more than any other ally [mondoweiss.net], I'm surprised they are not on the list.
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All governments spy on each other, and they have since the invention of espionage. And they all know they all spy on each other, too. They just need to exercise the good sense to not get publicly caught. Not getting caught is getting harder in the digital age, as everyone from airports, customs, trucking, retail, and city infrastructure is beefing up their security. They may suck at it, but it makes hiding invisibly that much harder.
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Well, yes [xkcd.com]
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I don't think you have any principles...
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Considering that Israel spies on the United States more than any other ally, I'm surprised they are not on the list.
Israel is our extra special hand puppet^W^Wfriend and we would never hack them because we own them and we don't need to hack them. They're doing precisely what we pay them for.
What, wait?! (Score:4, Interesting)
You mean to tell me that the US doesn't even trust the other Five Eyes nations' spy agencies to be able to do this?*
*Yes, I know, to get round legal restrictions, it was very normal for the US to spy on the citizens of the other four and to exchange that data for information collected on US citizens by other members of Five Eyes. However, we now know all the agencies DO spy on their own citizens, routinely. So the US can ask GCHQ to wiretap British citizens in Britain, it doesn't need to spy on Britain itself. This behaviour suggests wheels within wheels.
You mean to tell me that the US isn't all caught up in the US-UK "Special Relationship" stuff?**
**Most Americans were unaware there even was one and get horribly confused when the British talk about it.
What, wait?! (Score:2)
Some data is kept private for 5 Eye political leaders and policy formation over decades or longer.
Some information needs to be laundered in public in the short term to ensure good public relations spin, good news for sock puppets on social media or new public funding for gov/mil.
The press finds a new story.
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targetting a country, means hacking sites that are in another country.
the kind of thing that is "war" when done the other way. so there.
fbi informant is fbi, as far as rest of the planet is concerned, just like a cia informant works for cia - when viewed by the other countrys government.
like, some guy leaks information to CIA from China for money.. do you really think he would be counted as not working for CIA? stupid.
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Sounds as if, like the rest of the planet, you're stupid.
The King Demands (Score:3)
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"Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal,"
Nixon, 1977.