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Africa E-Waste Dump Continues Hyperbole War 78

retroworks writes: Two stories appear today which feature close up photos of young African men surrounded by scrap metal in the city of Accra. The headlines state that this is where our computers go to die (Wired). The Daily Mail puts it in even starker terms, alleging "millions of tons" are dumped in Agbogbloshie.

The stories appear the same day as a press release by investigators who returned this week from 3 weeks at the site. The release claims that Agbogbloshie's depiction as the worlds "largest ewaste dump site" to be a hoax. It is a scrap automobile yard which accounts for nothing more than local scrap from Accra. Three Dagbani language speaking electronics technicians, three reporters, Ghana customs officials and yours truly visited the site, interviewed workers about the origins of the material, and assessed volumes. About 27 young men burn wire, mostly from automobile scrap harnesses. The electronics — 20 to 50 items per day — are collected from Accra businesses and households. The majority of Accra (population 5M) have had televisions since the 1990s, according to World Bank metadata (over 80% by 2003).

The investigation did confirm that most of the scrap was originally imported used, and that work conditions were poor. However, the equipment being recycled had been repaired and maintained, typically for a decade (longer than the original OECD owner). It is a fact that used goods will, one day, eventually become e-waste. Does that support a ban on the trade in used goods to Africa? Or, as the World Bank reports, is the affordable used product essential to establish a critical mass of users so that investment in highways, phone towers, and internet cable can find necessary consumers?
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Africa E-Waste Dump Continues Hyperbole War

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  • by TWX ( 665546 ) on Thursday April 23, 2015 @12:04PM (#49538303)
    If people want local recycling, there needs to be a local market for the recycled product. As an example, in my area, even though households are encouraged to put glass into their recycle bins, at the sorting centers the glass is extracted and sent to the landfill, as there's no local demand for used glass. A friend of ours used to manage one of the local landfills, and this came straight from the horses' mouth.

    This African site might not be what was hyped, but all kinds of things are sent away or dumped into a landfill if there's no demand. If you want recycling, there has to be a use for the material being recycled.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Depends on the material. Glass is bulky and cheap, and there isn't much reason to ship it far as often glass factories will just be built near natural sources of material with minimal extraction costs. Metal on the other hand can cost quite a bit of energy to extract and process, so it is economical to ship recycled stuff some distance away. Depending on the local population and what you're trying to get the metal out of, there might be some benefit to cutting down on the bulk before shipping.
      • by thesupraman ( 179040 ) on Thursday April 23, 2015 @10:35PM (#49542947)

        People are missing the point my friend.

        The reason we are seeing these beatups is because the manufacturers of such consumer items see India, Africa, and China as growth markets as they
        develop an increasing middle class, however the norm there is to buy our (usually perfectly functional and/or easy to repair) discarded items, and use those
        at a fraction of the cost.

        This REDUCES CORPORATE GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES, hence must be squashed at any cost, including outright lies (and I suspect much much more).

        E-Waste is a huge lie, what we are seeing here is active recycling. Exactly what we want, but of course the purveyors of new goods hate..

        Seriously, the efforts being made by computer equipment manufacturers to block the export of perfectly functional second hand equipment to such countries,
        where they will be used and cared for for a long time, is just disgusting (Cisco is a very good example of this.. their older 100mbit equipment is throwaway
        in the west, and sells very well in the 3rd world..)

        So we are just seeing the usual easily swallowed lies being picked up by the idiocracy of the general populous/media, who it seems cannot critically think
        their way out of a paper bag.

        Same thing happens all the time with second hand cars (often by a moving target of 'safety standards').

        Reuse is by FAR the best form of recycling, and yet our governments are fighting it tooth and nail. Sad.

    • by adolf ( 21054 ) <flodadolf@gmail.com> on Thursday April 23, 2015 @01:00PM (#49538985) Journal

      Bottle glass is one of the most recyclable things we commonly use: You just sort it by color (which can be automated), put it into the kiln with the other glass, and wind up with a product that is just as good as virgin material.

      But transporting it is expensive, so much so that it can be cheaper to produce new glass from sand.

      If it doesn't get landfilled, it typically just piles up waiting for a use. As I understand it, very little post-consumer recycled glass ever turns into anything useful.

      Knowing this, I still recycle glass...but only because it keeps the bags that my actual garbage goes into from being cut up by broken glass, making it easier and cleaner for me to handle.

      • by Smauler ( 915644 )

        But transporting it is expensive, so much so that it can be cheaper to produce new glass from sand.

        Producing glass from sand isn't much more difficult than producing glass from glass. That's the main reason glass recycling isn't that useful.

        Aluminium is much easier to produce from aluminium than from bauxite.

    • What you said is very true. Local demand is a great motivator but like anything you start by sorting it and eventually demand arises. There are many construction material companies that have designed products based on recycled materials. The companies usually come to life because of the low cost for the primary materials they require. The processes are expensive but with time they become more affordable as proper techniques and the right expertise becomes available.

      I know where I live that a % of recycled m

    • by Holi ( 250190 )
      Are you from RI? After 40 years of recycling in RI we just found out that until last year all that glass went to the landfill because they could not find a buyer for it.
    • This is why if I buy a glass container of stuff I prefer it be a container that I can reuse and just put a new standard size of mason jar lid on (regular or widemouth) but it seems too few glass containers will take a mason jar lid and ring now. For most people it wouldn't matter and the container would just get tossed in the recycling but those who can stuff would do what I learned from my grandmother and reuse the damn things.
      • Classico pasta sauce comes in jars with Mason-type lids. However, they're made of cheaper glass than "real" Ball/Kerr Mason jars and are unsuitable for canning due to breakage risk, so Classico apparently wasn't very happy that they were getting saved and reused.

        Classico recently tried to switch to lug lids, but their customers (including me) complained, so they switched back. (In my letter, I pointed out that the reusable jar was the main differentiating factor that caused me to prefer their sauce over any

        • Good to know. Even if you can't can properly with them you can still do jellies with a bees wax seal, use them for storing honey, or put dry goods in them. I have never understood why if your company makes something that is shipped in glass jars why you would care if they are reused or not unless you receive back the old jars like Coke use to do with glass bottles to refill and resell.
          • I have never understood why if your company makes something that is shipped in glass jars why you would care if they are reused or not unless you receive back the old jars like Coke use to do with glass bottles to refill and resell.

            Liability, maybe? I think Classico was irrationally worried about getting sued by somebody whose jar exploded while being used for canning (either during the process, due to the heat, or afterwards from bacteria growth due to an improper seal).

    • To further what you're saying, there is a huge market for recycled computers in at least SOME places. I went through this a period of interest in collecting vintage computers. But I couldn't get any! All of the donated ones were wrapped up, and shipped over seas to either be resold or melted down.
    • Wait, you Americans still have these weird recycling bins which might as well be labeled "miscellaneous", as they still need someone to do the actual sorting? Here in the old world (.fi) we have different bins for stuff like glass and metal. There is some regional variety depending on the local market, though I've heard some of this still ends up in landfill.
      • by ksheff ( 2406 )
        It depends on how the municipality decided to implement their recycling program. When I got to drop stuff at a recycling point, I have two options: the big dumpster for glass, metal, and plastic, and another big dumpster for paper. I guess they figured if they made people separate it out any further, they wouldn't bother.
      • by TheSync ( 5291 )

        Here in the old world (.fi) we have different bins for stuff like glass and metal.

        Here in LA, homeless people go through our trash, extract the actually valuable recyclables, then take them to the recycling centers and make cash.

  • by Headw1nd ( 829599 ) on Thursday April 23, 2015 @12:06PM (#49538327)
    Good thing we learned so much about the obligations of ethical reporting from the Rolling Stone debacle.
    • by Crashmarik ( 635988 ) on Thursday April 23, 2015 @12:10PM (#49538393)

      Three movies everyone should see to understand Journalism
      Absence of Malice
      The Front Page
      His Girl Friday.

      Their only flaws are being too kind to the "Profession"

    • Good thing we learned so much about the obligations of ethical reporting from the Rolling Stone debacle.

      Both rape & pollution are bad enough without fabricating stories, but it's not about the truth. It's about building the narrative for the "truth" you want people to believe.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by bobbied ( 2522392 )

      Good thing we learned so much about the obligations of ethical reporting from the Rolling Stone debacle.

      "It's the seriousness of the charge that really counts here, not how valid the story is."

      That's how we got the Rolling Stone made up allegations of rape and the Duke Lacrosse made up rape story. Oh and let's not forget the "Romney didn't pay his taxes for the last 10 years!" fabrication that got reported as fact, even though the source of the allegation has since admitted to just "making it up" to score political points for his team.

      Journalism and ethics are a thing of the past. Or, more to the point, ho

  • ...and the African continent needs jobs. Keeps them from joining the Jihad.

  • by fermion ( 181285 ) on Thursday April 23, 2015 @12:14PM (#49538455) Homepage Journal
    My suspicion with these so-called African landfills, or anywhere, is where is the economics of transporting heavy waste ten thousand miles just to dump it. yes, the US and European laws make dumping it a home expensive, but just to dump it elsewhere for the kid to play in? Does not seem to add up. Transporting it to be used for a few years and them dumping it, that makes sense. That still has the problem of concentrating toxic waste in places where there are not good regulations to protect the populous, but that is a different issue.
  • Who to believe (Score:4, Interesting)

    by guanxi ( 216397 ) on Thursday April 23, 2015 @12:14PM (#49538467)

    Who are you? Why should I believe the "Good Point Ideas Blog" over Wired and The Daily Mail? What is your motive here?

    • Re:Who to believe (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23, 2015 @12:23PM (#49538575)

      You can pretty much believe anything over The Daily Mail...

    • Why should I believe the "Good Point Ideas Blog" over Wired and The Daily Mail?

      I think the point is that you shouldn't automatically believe any of them.
      When deciding what to believe, you should look at several criteria:
      1. How credible is the publication?
      2. Do they provide photos, give specific locations, and name specific names?
      3. Are the facts in the story credible?
      For #1, they are all low.
      For #2, the blog wins.
      For #3, the whole world generates only a few "millions of tonnes" of e-waste annually, and much of it is recycled locally, or sent to China or India. It is not very likel

    • Re:Who to believe (Score:5, Informative)

      by retroworks ( 652802 ) on Thursday April 23, 2015 @12:43PM (#49538791) Homepage Journal

      Any sources for the stats in Wired or Daily Mail? No? Because the original source has vanished.

      Here is a link to research of peer reviewed articles which traces the claims made in Wired (actually repeating what a photographer said, Wired did not make the claim) and Mail scalar.usc.edu/works/reassembling-rubbish/mapping-e-waste-as-a-controversy-from-statements-to-debates-1?path=e-waste-mapping-a-controversy

      And here is the UN funded 2012 study of the imports to Ghana which found 91% reuse. http://www.basel.int/Portals/4... [basel.int] This was the study that caused BAN.org (the NGO) to backtrack on their claims.

      As for who I am, former Peace Corps volunteer, degree in intl relations, former head of recycling for Massachusetts DEP, consultant to EPA, and founder of WR3A.org which has part of a 3 university $469K research grant on used electronics imports, managed by Memorial University (USC Long Beach and Pontifica UCP Peru also part of the research).

      The press release also refers to reporters who attended, including Author of NYT Bestseller (Junkyard Planet) Adam Minter of Bloomberg. I was most impressed however with the Dagbani geeks and nerds who gave us the tour of the site and the import containers with the reused equipment. But finding a news journal like Wired or Mail which actually interviews actual African businesspeople, I'm afraid I can't find quickly. But here is an essay from one of the Technicians who came with us (not Dagbani speaker, he's from Volta region) http://www.isri.org/news-publi... [isri.org]

      You can also try doing math on an envelope to see which source to follow. The cost of shipping 700 televisions (what can fit in a sea container) is $10k (purchase of TVs, shippping and customs) or $14 per TV. They contain about $2 in copper. Oh, and Joe Benson, the guy in UK jail? His cost of disposing the bad ones, the ones he was supposedly avoiding recycling costs for? $0, he showed regular trips to recycle the ones he didn't want to pay $14 to ship.

      Here is another source, Heather Agyepong (of UK but parents were from Ghana), who visited last summer and reported the same thing, that the "dystopia" and "dumping" was basically not to be found. http://www.okayafrica.com/phot... [okayafrica.com]

      • And here is the UN funded 2012 study of the imports to Ghana which found 91% reuse. http://www.basel.int/Portals/4 [basel.int]... [basel.int] This was the study that caused BAN.org (the NGO) to backtrack on their claims.

        They didn't want the reuse numbers to get out because their campaign was really about one important American family value: black people shouldn't be allowed near computers. They'll dirty the Internet up.

    • by blang ( 450736 )

      You should believe it because it makes a whole lot more sense than the shite is refuting.

      If you have been to any 3rd world county, you would know that the surplus market, where used goods from richer countries are highly sought after.
      That includes bikes, furniture , other household items, electronics, etc.
      People happily pay higher price for a second hand european or US made product than the equivalent new product manufactured in china, which often breaks after a few uses.

      Ans yes, people in poor countries r

      • The limiting factor in repair these days isn't really time (though it is significant) it's the parts, open up your TV and see what you actually replace in there. Even if you have the skills to replace SMD components you won't know what part you need and even if you did by some miracle find the part number you couldn't buy a replacement as they aren't made any more as the fabrication plants are making newer components now. So unless you want buy a complete power supply/motherboard/screen for basically the pr
        • by blang ( 450736 )

          This is true, but that is only relative.

          An LCD TV still has many repair options.
          Blown capacitors
          Bad soldering.
          Blown chips etc.
          TV repair becomes unfeasible only if it is the same part that always breaks, and this part is very expensive.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23, 2015 @12:17PM (#49538499)
    As seen on /. a few months ago, an African born TV repairman is in UK prison based on this malarky. http://news.slashdot.org/story... [slashdot.org]
  • by iONiUM ( 530420 ) on Thursday April 23, 2015 @12:31PM (#49538659) Journal

    It's really not that big: google earth picture of the location from sat [google.ca].

    The pictures make it look like it's an entire city, but really it's just a small area. Of course, they don't show you aerial views because that would stop any sort or rational opinion from forming on the subject.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Even without looking at it from the air.... there really doesn't seem to be much e-waste. Yeah it the ground in areas does appear to be burnt but other than that there appear to be like three or four monitors that they are passing around for people to stand on to generate outrage. I've seen more "e-waste" at a local 2nd hand electronics store.

      Now it it had shown people standing on a small mountain of monitors I might feel differently. Instead what we see is someone standing on what appears to be a single PC

  • Computers I "recycle", especially from work, can still run Windows just fine, browse and do general computing tasks decently.

    You cannot play the latest and greatest games, or run the latest version of Illustrator or Photoshop. We get rid of them mostly due to reliability and the fact that it gets harder and harder to purchase replacement parts (such as CPU, mobo).

    I do not see why they cannot have a second life for somebody living in a 3rd world country. The machines work well enough.

    I guess the transportati

    • Not to mention that many businesses cycle through their computers based on accounting practices. e.g., Several companies I've worked at had five-year depreciation schedules. Each year, they can write off 20% of the cost of a computer. After five years, the depreciation runs out and it makes sense to replace those machines.
  • Our hyperbole must defeat their hyperbole, because freedoms!

    Stupid title is stupid.

  • > worlds "largest ewaste dump site"

    world's* "largest ewaste dump site".

    worlds = more than one world

    Come on, people. This is third grade English.

  • Agenda Journalism, mixed with sensationalist journalism is doing this kind of shite all the time.
    And the lazy journalism does not end there.
    The stories and pictures is often translated and copied to other media outlets without proper source attribution.
    Teh original articles often lack permission from photo subject, and are ripe with exaggerations, short on facts, and fabrications are common.

    The media outlets perpetrating this shite are rarely held accountable.

  • You think wired will fire the journalist and editor? Rolling stone didn't.
  • Seriously, most of the 'waste' that is sent out are great sources of resources. Gold, Iron, Plastic, Copper, etc. Yes, there is Mercury and Lead in those, but that can be dealt with easily. We have various deep mines, well below water tables, in which the pure mercury and lead can be easily contained.

    Australia has the right attitude of using Robotics to part out items.
    • by halivar ( 535827 )

      TFS and TFA refutes the idea that we are, in fact, exporting this kind of waste in volume. I don't live in a huge metropolitan area, and even *my* garbage goes through single-stream recycling.

      • I have talked to WM (largest waste company in America) about their recycling stream and found out that all of theirs flows to CHina. Likewise, most of the electronic recyclers also flow it to China.

        And Yes, I called multiple companies, include WM, to find out how this works.
    • Why even bury the lead and mercury, those are valuable elements so long as they are not in the air, soil or water.
    • A Dutch documentary recently showed Africans are now getting rich by recycling discarded mobile phones or "urban mining". Loads of rare metals in those things.

      http://tegenlicht.vpro.nl/afle... [tegenlicht.vpro.nl]

  • " as the World Bank reports, is the affordable used product essential to establish a critical mass of users so that investment in highways, phone towers, and internet cable can find necessary consumers?"

    We went from zero cars to millions without phone towers and internet. We had roads before the concept of the highway or the interstate. It was pressure from too many cars that justified the paving over of roads. Maybe what we should be doing is not continually siphoning off their best and brightest for our own use. The "brain drain" is real, and it means those communities have lost the time, effort, and funds they've put into their education system to other countries rather than seeing the benefits at home

  • highways, phone towers, and internet cable

    and all this time I thought it was food, clothing, and shelter. Serves me right for growing up "off the grid"

  • The summary talks about World Bank metadata. why is this called metadata and not just data?
  • I'm a 'big' pc user, no less than 10 around the house. But the most of them being second hand or even older. Re-using my old hardware is a normal way of saving money. And stuff I don't use anymore is being sold again or given away to people with a need for it.

    It's big companies who sell-off their old crappy hardware to wholesale buyers and then it end's up in Accra, Africa.
    Instead of finding close range solutions like donating to schools, unemployed and poor they want a buck or more for it.
    And I'm not even

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