Scientists Look For Patterns In North Carolina Shark Attacks 92
HughPickens.com writes: The Washington Post reports that there have been seven recent shark attacks in North Carolina. Scientists are looking for what might be luring the usually shy sharks so close to shore and among the swimmers they usually avoid. It's an unusual number of attacks for a state that recorded 25 attacks between 2005 and 2014. Even with the recent incidents, researchers emphasize that sharks are a very low-level threat to humans, compared with other forms of wildlife. Bees, for example, are much more dangerous. And swimming itself is hazardous even without sharks around.
George Burgess, director of the International Shark Attack File at the University of Florida's Florida Museum of Natural History, speculates that several environmental factors could be pushing sharks to congregate in the Outer Banks. It is a warm year, and the water has a higher level of salinity because of a low-level drought in the area. Also, a common species of forage fish — menhaden — has been abundant this year and might have attracted more sharks to the area. Burgess also says some fishermen put bait in the water near piers, which could lure the predators closer to shore; two of the encounters took place within 100 yards of a pier. "That's a formula for shark attacks," Burgess says of these conditions, taken together. "Now, does that explain seven attacks in three weeks? No, it doesn't."
George Burgess, director of the International Shark Attack File at the University of Florida's Florida Museum of Natural History, speculates that several environmental factors could be pushing sharks to congregate in the Outer Banks. It is a warm year, and the water has a higher level of salinity because of a low-level drought in the area. Also, a common species of forage fish — menhaden — has been abundant this year and might have attracted more sharks to the area. Burgess also says some fishermen put bait in the water near piers, which could lure the predators closer to shore; two of the encounters took place within 100 yards of a pier. "That's a formula for shark attacks," Burgess says of these conditions, taken together. "Now, does that explain seven attacks in three weeks? No, it doesn't."
The pattern... (Score:2, Insightful)
Swim with sharks get eaten, simple.
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A pattern was found (Score:1)
Sharks live in the water. When people swim in the water, there is a small chance they may be bitten by sharks.
A shark bite will prompt media morons and politicians suffering from brainpower deficit disorder to go into hysteria overdrive. This means that a dozen shark attacks will get more attention than 10,000 people dying from inadequate healthcare services per day in North Carolina or hundreds of thousands of people dying in other countries due to natural disasters and wars.
Re:A pattern was found (Score:5, Insightful)
Shark bites get media attention because that is what people want to read about. Don't just blame the media.
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Shark bites get attention because sharks are rather terrifying to most people (especially if they've seen Jaws). Yes, you can die from bee or wasp stings, but that doesn't induce raw, primal fear like a shark. The thought of plunging to your death in an airline accident is terrifying to most people, even though you're far more likely to die in a car accident. The notion of a child being abducted by a stranger is a parent's worst nightmare, yet it's more likely to happen by a close friend or relative.
You
The Case of Munchies (Score:4, Funny)
All that toilet flushed cannabis has to end up somewhere.
Re: The Case of Munchies (Score:1)
All of us stoners have seen desperate times and desperate actions but frankly mate you've taken the biscuit
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He did?! I was wondering where that last biscuit went.
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Wow. Someone's off his conservative meds again. Guy, take the green pill and chill out. You're ruining a perfectly good shark wall.
blame AGW (Score:3)
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Re: blame AGW (Score:1)
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Re:Bees (Score:5, Insightful)
The claim that sharks are less dangerous than bees, lightning, or whatever, is a fine example of misleading with statistics. Bees and lightning can strike anyone who walks outside (that is everyone but the most extreme basement dwellers), but sharks are only going to attack people who swim, and while they are swimming.
For a start, I never go into the sea; neither does my wife, son, neighbours, 99.9% of the citizens of the Central African Republic, and I guess most people anywhere. Even of those who do enter the sea, the vast majority must spend a very small percentage of their time in it.
I would submit therefore that the risk of shark attack while in the sea is very significantly higher than that of a bee attack or lighting strike when walking around on land.
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Sharks, grizzly bears, mountain lions, alligators, wolves.. attacks on humans get big news. Bees are not scary. A swarm of killer bees maybe, cause that seems more 'predatorial'.
It doesn't mean we run around scared of these things, it just gets our attention. The biggest 'predator' (in quotes because its not a food thing) of
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I agree with your conclusion but not your reasoning. Try this on for size:
The comparison with bees stings is misleading a BS statistic because they're comparing deaths per entire population rather than deaths per vulnerable population. A farmer in the middle of Oklahoma has a pretty low chance of being eaten by a shark but he has a shot at being a bee fatality. Therefore he's skewing that stat in the shark's favor for someone who is considering whether a beach is more risky than staying home with the bee
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IN that frame, I think you will find that vulnerability is not the defining factor when it comes to peoples interest in shark attacks. You'll find that surfers and farmers alike are more interested in shark attack stories than fatal bee stings. Mountain hikers and city slick
Re: Bees (Score:1)
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I agree
"I would punch every bee in the face!" -Dane Cook
Shark curiosity (Score:4, Informative)
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So, they're interested in why the sharks are curious.
They heard gay marriage was legal.
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So, they're interested in why the sharks are curious.
They heard gay marriage was legal.
Oh right. I suppose you reckon it's just a coincidence that people had been playing Justin Bieber music on the pier in each and every instance of a shark attack. It's not like they can just climb out of the water and politely request people turn that crap off - the poor bastards can't climb and they don't have voice boxes.
But yeah - let's blame the sharks. And gay marriage.
Seven Shades of Stupid (Score:2)
Dear Coward
Isn't being a victim of a shark attack a matter of choice? Even so, the odds of getting bit by a shark are probably higher than the odds of you entering a gay marriage. (If you are a normal person). I don't mean to offend anyone by saying that they might be abnormal, but lets face it. Getting bit by a shark is pretty high up there on the freak accident scale, so you gotta believe that taking it up the ass, even by accident, is pretty rare. Now, all this says nothing of Justin Beiber, but I suppose it's just as well. No sense inciting people on subjects nobody really cares about.
Is that an effort at stupid humour - or are you just being effortlessly stupid? It reads like clumsy satire but something tells me it's not - it's just the way you "think".
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A shark does not play with it food, that stupid meme is a stupid meme. Consider the learning exercise, you are born into a sea with no help or guidance, just genetic guidance about likely edible and inedible flavours in the sea you swim in as well as specific trial and error testing method for food sources. So safe trial and error method, be wary, approach target carefully see what it does, hmm, not much. So swing around again and bite, not a too small bite, else target will escape, not a too big because t
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A shark does not play with it food, that stupid meme is a stupid meme. Consider the learning exercise, you are born into a sea with no help or guidance, just genetic guidance about likely edible and inedible flavours in the sea you swim in as well as specific trial and error testing method for food sources. So safe trial and error method, be wary, approach target carefully see what it does, hmm, not much. So swing around again and bite, not a too small bite, else target will escape, not a too big because t
There are two parts to the equation (Score:5, Insightful)
A shark attack needs a shark and a person. Researching what the sharks are doing differently is fine but it will never be the full picture unless you look at what humans are doing differently too.
It's a hot year as stated; Are more humans swimming than previous years there? Are they swimming at earlier times or later times than usual? I'd bet that even if sharks have abnormal behavior this year that humans do as well.
Re:There are two parts to the equation (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, in retrospect maybe those bacon flavored swimming trunks were a bad idea.
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I'm putting my money on them having recently consumed some Snickers candy bars.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2djs-hy4s8k
Its obvious (Score:5, Funny)
Its shark week
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In Canada, we have a daily (normally M-F) newsmagazine show called Daily Planet and for Shark Week (which does start today, Sunday, so they did a special episode) they're doing shark themed segments.
The first segment is interestingly all about this research.
(Coincidentally I turned on Daily Planet just before visiting /.).
Overfishing (Score:4, Interesting)
Overfishing. Combined with the fact that sharks have to eat something.
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Pretty sure you've got it in one here. Like kittens think on nothing but murder all day, sharks think of nothing but eating... at least, that's what they do all day. Swim and eat, swim and eat. It's more surprising when sharks don't eat stuff.
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Man, what did that kitten do to you? Seriously, it's in the past; just let it go. ;^)
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Man, what did that kitten do to you? Seriously, it's in the past; just let it go. ;^)
Kitten Thinks of Nothing but Murder all Day [theonion.com]
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How to tell if your cat is plotting to kill you. [theoatmeal.com]
How much do cats actually kill? [theoatmeal.com]
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Pshaw... I take it you have never eaten that delicious fin soup???
Heh... Me either. I have eaten shark though. It was a steak in the oven with lemon and it was nommy. I would not eat shark fin soup because we do not eat the whole shark. I will eat a shark.
also, sharks look for patterns in human attack (Score:1)
Sharks usually kill a dozen or so people every year. Meanwhile Humans kill around 100 million sharks per year [huffingtonpost.com] . Shark scientists are researching the question, "WTF, humans?" Some sharks speculate that it's because humans are assholes.
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Ooooh! A Thickchewy! (Score:1)
Shark Fishing from Piers (Score:2)
I'm surprised no one looked into Shark fishing from piers and shores as a possible cause of the Shark attacks.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/shark... [go.com]
There are many other articles. It makes sense to me. If you lure sharks closer to the shore by throwing dead meat in the ocean then yeah they are probably going to attack swimmers. This is why some districts ban this. It clearly locates their feeding area (or their perception of it) closer to where legs are dangling in the ocean.
Why do people make things complicated?
Quoted (Score:4, Informative)
"As a commercial fisherman of 38 years, a shark fisherman virtually from it's inception in the mid eighties, and HMS a.p. member and a IAC technical advisor on sharks, if you actually want the scoop on the health of the shark populations in this country please don't expect to hear it from the apologist such as George Burgesses (shark attack file), Bob Hueter's (Mote Marine lab) or even the NMFS since the truth is in short supply. If you believe their line it is because of more people are in the water, or more bait fish, or hotter water, or even more turtles in the water (a favorite food of sharks) yet fishermen are being shut down because others say there are less. The inconvenient truth to the increased shark interactions is that it is simply all about the increase in sharks... Don't believe me? Check out the agencies Coastal Shark Survey: http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/shark....
If you are not interested in googling it i will quote a few paragraphs . "
"The first systematic survey of Atlantic sharks , conducted by the Apex Predator Program in the summer of 1986 (or about the time the shark fishery got it's start). "We caught and tagged more sharks in the 2012 survey than at any previous survey said Natanson, who has been on all but one of the surveys. The previous high was in 2009 when we caught 1676 sharks and tagged 1352. In addition to the numerous sandbar sharks, (the main focus of the former shark fishery), we caught more Dusky (the main reason the shark fishery has essentially been eliminated) tiger and black tip than in any prior survey.
As a followup to the two most recent surveys, i happened to be offshore fishing recently when Scotty on the Eagle Eye 2 was on his way by conducting the 2015 survey. Unfortunately even thought the numbers are not yet posted, in acquainting myself with the captain over the radio and making him aware of my interest in the numbers he was seeing, he confided that this survey was going to blow the numbers of the previous two away......in other words simply.....more than EVER.
Finally If you decide that after watching "shark week" they are as lovable as Bambi or Flipper, and believe that you are more likely to be struck by lightening this week then dive in. As not only a fisherman that is no longer allowed to target sharks and hasn't been since 2002, as a surfer that is nervous any time the swell comes up and also a oceanfront motel owner that is concerned as a businessman......you simply be the judge...."
Factory ships (Score:2, Interesting)
Meanwhile the factory ship goes on destroying more in its by-catch leaving a corridor of nothing behind. Of course the solution will be to kill the remaining sharks and let the fucktory ships go about their business.
We are clearly a r
Captain Quint Said it Best: (Score:2)
You go in the water. Shark's in the water. Our shark.
Farewell and adieu to you, fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu, you ladies of Spain. For we've received orders for to sail back to Boston. And so nevermore shall we see you again.
Yes, the absolute risk is low, but... (Score:2)
Most articles I've read about this point out that the risk to any given swimmer is still extremely low. We all know that humans are bad at weighting risks from very low-probability but high-horror events.
By the same token, though, the risk to any given golfer out on a course during a thunderstorm is pretty low -- but nearly everybody agrees that going out on a large, open expanse and holding a metal stick over your head during a thunderstorm is kind of stupid.
I can't say that I blame people for deciding to
Sharknado 3 ..... (Score:2)
The movie takes place in the Northeastern U.S. but nobody heeded the warnings.
Easy answer (Score:2)
Find the jackass playing the cello on the beach and arrest him.
Obvious (Score:2)
Sharks eat mammals with lots of blubber and North Carolinians are as tasty as a big seal.
Bees? (Score:1)
The word bees isn't even in the article linked.