LeEco Said To Lay Off Over 80 Percent of US Workforce (cnbc.com) 104
An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNBC: LeEco, a Chinese company that made a big splash in the U.S. last fall, is preparing for a round of layoffs that may happen as soon as Tuesday, according to sources. Two people told CNBC the company is planning massive layoffs in the U.S., with one source saying that only 60 employees will be left after the cut. The company's current headcount in the U.S. is over 500, according to this person. CNBC obtained an email calling employees together for a Town Hall Meeting that will occur in three of the company's U.S. locations, including San Diego, Santa Monica and San Jose, at 10 a.m. PST. The email asks employees to attend unless they're off for the day, in which case they're asked to call in. It's not clear what will be announced at the meeting, but a second source told CNBC that layoffs will be announced tomorrow. Under the restructuring, LeEco will refocus on encouraging Chinese-American consumers to watch LeEco's Chinese content library, one person said.
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Better fanfic than most.
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Re: Who are they (Score:1)
Actually the other way around. One less company taking their profits from china and buying stuff in the USA to park their new found wealth to protevt it from the govt. E.g., LeEco was going to overpay to buy the US based Vizio Tv maker to expatriate $2B in cash from their Chinese operations.
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$2B in loans from the chinese government in an effort to steer many times that amount back to "Made in China". Yet more economic warfare.
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I could not even find them in Google.
Well, here is the link for the company [leeco.com] I searched on google. Not sure why you said that. It is either you didn't search or didn't know how to use google to do the search.
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Signs of things to come. (Score:4, Interesting)
The USA is becoming less and less dominate in the World. Most of the economic growth is in the Third World. And as they continue catching up, we will have more layoffs from both foreign and domestic firms and we will see our standard of living continue to decline.
We had a great run from the end of WWII to about 2000. It was just a historical fluke but we Americans have come to think that it's the norm because of our "exceptionalism". Well we're regressing back to the mean of our historical pre-WWII growth of about 1 - 2%. And there is nothing politically that can be done about it - contrary to what Trump and his supporters believe.
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Wow, any piece can be used for anti-US propaganda. Stuff happens. The US may not be perfect, but there is a reason why the top tier businesses come to the US, and that is freedom of speech and collaboration. You can make fun of the President and not disappear. You can troll and not disappear.
If you want to know when to put on the brown pants, is when the top think tanks and intelligent people/groups start abandoning the US to go to another country. Some ratty Chinese unicorn-wannabe... who cares. When
Re:Who are they (Score:5, Informative)
LeEco started out in China as a streaming media provider — it has been referred to as the "Netflix of China" — and looked to expand into the US by selling affordable hardware that linked consumers to media content from LeEco's partners. Its first batch of products included two smartphones and several TVs, all of which offered flagship-level specs at affordable prices. The idea, it seemed, was that LeEco would make its money back when consumers tuned in to partner programming.
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Slashdot saw this coming: https://slashdot.org/story/16/11/07/1356255/leecos-ceo-jia-yueting-says-company-overstretched-now-running-out-of-cash [slashdot.org]
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Re:Critical mistake number 1 - California (Score:4, Interesting)
Was that supposed to be funny, insightful, or informative?
When the Japanese were buying up U.S. properties in the 1980's, a reporter asked them where they were looking.
The Japanese replied, "The East Coast."
"New England, the Carolinas, Florida?" the reporter asked.
The Japanese laughed. "The East Coast of the Pacific."
The reporter didn't understand.
"California, Oregon and Washington," the Japanese explained patiently. "Your West Coast is our East Coast."
Go back to sticking your head into a bucket of Krispy Kreme, you doof.
I hate Krispy Kreme.
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That story never happened.
True story. But let's look at the historical context of that story from the L.A. Times.
The Leventhal study estimates Japanese investment in U.S. real estate last year at $5.06 billion, down from the $13.06 billion spent in 1990. The peak year for Japanese investing was 1988, when they spent $16.54 billion on U.S. properties.
http://articles.latimes.com/1992-02-21/news/mn-2588_1_japanese-real-estate [latimes.com]
As for the Chinese, they're outspending the Japanese on real estate.
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Source it [...]
It's a story I read in The San Jose Business Journal (now The Silicon Valley Business Journal) in the late 1980's (pre-Internet).
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The Internet existed in the late 1980s, Mr "IT Wizard".
That's funny. Web browsers didn't appear until 1995.
Find it at archive.org.
Probably on microfiche at the main library.
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The Internet most certainly existed in the 1980s as I'm sure you're aware.
Of course. But I prefer the term "pre-Internet" because it causes magic smoke to come out of the ears of greybreads who should know the difference between the actual Internet and the Internet that the unwashed masses know about.
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Your IT credentials are paper-thin.
My IT credentials began after 1995 when the Internet became the new thing for the unwashed masses.
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What about gopher, email and ftp? Archie for searching....
You forget finger. Take a guess which I'm holding up now.
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After that much experience, any other person would be an architect or director-level resource making bank.
Let me get this straight... I'm not good at computers because I'm not an architect or director after 20+ years? That's like saying a teacher is a failure for teaching 20+ years for not becoming a principal or school board member.
Why the fuck would you pick computers if you are not good with computers?
I'm a problem solver. I'm good with computers. I'm good with people. I bridge the gap between the two. You need support people who can do that.
Re: Critical mistake number 1 - California (Score:2)
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More details
Percentage of Chinese population in the United States, 2000
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Percentage of Chinese population in the United States, 2000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Americans [wikipedia.org]
The Chinese American community comprises the largest ethnic group of Asian Americans, comprising 25.9% of the Asian American population as of 2010. Americans of Chinese descent, including those with partial Chinese ancestry constitute 1.2% of the total U.S. population as of 2010. According to the 2010 census, the Chinese American population numbered approximately 3.8 million. In 2010, half of Chinese-born people living in the United States resided in the states of California and New York.
Re: Made a big splash? (Score:1)
They were going to buy US TV maker Vizio for $2B usd. That's kindof a splash.
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Wouldn't it be horrible if you found out you were about to be laid off from a Slashdot article?
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Wouldn't it be horrible if you found out you were about to be laid off from a Slashdot article?
...or better yet, having it appear on the National News on a TV screen behind you, while you were speaking to a room full of your co-workers?
transit (Score:2, Interesting)
The U.S. depends upon the ability to force the world to use the U.S. dollar to buy oil. As the world transits away to renewable energy, the ability of the U.S. to print money and have it bought by the rest of the world declines, leading to inflation and economic decline.
astonishingly bad summary (Score:5, Insightful)
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There isn't a main product. It's a congolmerate that tries to do a bit of everything.
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It would be helpful to readers if the summary contained any info at all about the company's main product or reason why this is significant.
Oh, it is actually all there in the summary. LeEco is clearly a company that sold wild Orcas... or pool supplies...
Plus the TFA refuses to work in presence of adblocker, so we are keeping the article and the discussion strictly separated as is tradition.
LeEco, a Chinese company that made a big splash in the U.S. last fall, is preparing for a round of layoffs that may happen as soon as Tuesday,
The Politically Correct Business BS (Score:2, Insightful)
Layoff - a discharge, especially temporary, of a worker or workers
I love how business has gotten so good at crafting the message. They didn't fired everyone, they were layed off. Like the dead were going to come back to life or something.
Re:The Politically Correct Business BS (Score:4, Informative)
There is a difference in the terms:
Fired = let go for cause.
Laid off = let go due to company downsizing or similar, not due to employee fault.
Sometimes there's a reason people use different words, and it's usually because they have different meanings.
Re:The Politically Correct Business BS (Score:5, Informative)
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What about resignations and retirements?
Re:The Politically Correct Business BS (Score:4, Insightful)
There is a difference in the terms:
Fired = let go for cause.
Laid off = let go due to company downsizing or similar, not due to employee fault.
Sometimes there's a reason people use different words, and it's usually because they have different meanings.
Not only that, but if you grew up in a factory town like I did there was a big difference between being fired and being laid off. Laid off was often temporary. If sales were down the factory would cut back on production and cut back on staffing by laying off some workers. When sales were back up the laid off workers were called up again. That's pretty normal.
He gets the credit (Score:2)
Thanks Trump.
Not a good thing in the long run (Score:5, Interesting)
Note what LeEco is saying here: they're creating Chinese content for US citizens who are of Chinese descent. They're not trying to open up the American market in general the way the Japanese did with anime, video games, etc. This is targeted by ethnicity.
More and more this seems to really be a thing with the immigrant diasporas in the West, and it's going to bring multi-culturalism down hard. Multiculturalists like to say "well the Italians integrated you racist!!" Well, yes they did, but I also know virtually no descendants of Italian immigrants that actually think they're Italian, speak Italian and frankly give a shit what happens in Italy. It is more "cultural flavor" and closer to white Southerners being proud of their heritage than a truly distinct claim on ethnicity.
So take whatever difficulty you'd have integrating a racially diverse set of new immigrants into a still largely homogeneous society, add in a heaping dose of Capitalist encouragement to not give up the old ways and you have a recipe for long term, very severe ethnic conflict. In the long run, there are few things we all share deeply in common at group levels, but one of those things is tribalism. You can indoctrinate that out of us about as well as you can indoctrinate pack instincts out of dogs.
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It is more "cultural flavor" and closer to white Southerners being proud of their heritage than a truly distinct claim on ethnicity.
I take it you have never been to the deep south...
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More and more this seems to really be a thing with the immigrant diasporas in the West, and it's going to bring multi-culturalism down hard. Multiculturalists like to say "well the Italians integrated you racist!!" Well, yes they did, but I also know virtually no descendants of Italian immigrants that actually think they're Italian, speak Italian and frankly give a shit what happens in Italy. It is more "cultural flavor" and closer to white Southerners being proud of their heritage than a truly distinct claim on ethnicity.
That could be true for the example you said; however, it meant that you have no idea of Chinese culture. Many Chinese people (from mainland China) are loyal to their country of origin regardless where they are residing (in China or else where). They teach their descendants to keep similar loyalty to China. Thus, the company target might work at a certain degree. However, I have no idea on the company strategy, so I can't give any comment on how successful their strategy is (likely unsuccessful).
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You pick one paragraph that you don't like, while ignoring the entire post which makes exactly your point?
If you really use your brain to think a bit out of the box, you would see that my point is directed to his main point...
Note what LeEco is saying here: they're creating Chinese content for US citizens who are of Chinese descent. They're not trying to open up the American market in general the way the Japanese did with anime, video games, etc. This is targeted by ethnicity.
That's what LeEco may want to go after because they hope that Chinese people keep up their culture and would be their consumers. Though, it seems that their strategy doesn't work (but I don't know what their strategy in doing this).
I certainly do have an idea... (Score:2)
I am actually quite well aware of this tendency among the Chinese, which is why to the extent that we allow immigration from China it should be both very limited and immigrants who betray their new citizenship should be ruthlessly dealt with by the l
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More and more this seems to really be a thing with the immigrant diasporas in the West, and it's going to bring multi-culturalism down hard. Multiculturalists like to say "well the Italians integrated you racist!!" Well, yes they did, but I also know virtually no descendants of Italian immigrants that actually think they're Italian, speak Italian and frankly give a shit what happens in Italy.
The main difference between the Chinese and Italian waves of immigration is 100 years. Look at Italian integration one or two decades after the mass immigration in the 1900's. That is the period that is comparable to the current Chinese cultural evolution. The slow waning of Italian identity took over half a century. I grew up in an Italian-American neighborhood in the 80's. Even then, Italian identity, including speaking Italian, eating Italian food, being proud of being Italian, was still strong.
The
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People from China, and the rest of Asia, have been coming to North America for at least 150 years so I don't understand where you are saying this is the second and third generation. There were spikes in immigration for gold rushes and building of the Canadian railways (don't know about the American ones).
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People from China, and the rest of Asia, have been coming to North America for at least 150 years so I don't understand where you are saying this is the second and third generation. There were spikes in immigration for gold rushes and building of the Canadian railways (don't know about the American ones).
This is exactly my point. The latter generations of Chinese-Americans don't have European faces but otherwise "look" like Americans. They have American names, eat American food, play American sports, listen to American music, etc. It's the first generation that struggles to adopt the new culture, and this is true of all immigrants, even from Europe.
There have been three waves of Chinese immigration: a small wave around 1850 to 1882 (when Chinese immigration was legally outlawed), a second small wave fro
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More and more this seems to really be a thing with the immigrant diasporas in the West, and it's going to bring multi-culturalism down hard. Multiculturalists like to say "well the Italians integrated you racist!!" Well, yes they did, but I also know virtually no descendants of Italian immigrants that actually think they're Italian, speak Italian and frankly give a shit what happens in Italy. It is more "cultural flavor" and closer to white Southerners being proud of their heritage than a truly distinct claim on ethnicity.
The key difference is that in prior waves of immigration being assimilated in terms of language and culture was pushed - and surprise surprise they did indeed become Americans. This was the melting pot idea and it largely worked. Now we coddle them, don't expect them to learn the language, don't expect them to follow the law (yes illegal immigration is illegal), and really don't seem to care if they "melt in". We don't look after the people already in the country but we can't wait to let more in. And we
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But you stick to your anecdata. That's the only proof a righteous paranoid needs!
It hardly seems a "righteous" request to speak the language of the country. As for paranoid, I've seen the destruction that mass immigration has caused. If anything I'm not paranoid enough. Fairly large sections of Southern California resemble Mexico in just about every way, from the language to the litter. That is not progress, that is reverting to a third world country. Anyone who would cheer that on is not living near it.
Marriage data is taking an unrealistically long view, certainly longer than m
The Obvious Point. (Score:2)
So company that I've never heard of goes out of business... Umm why isn't that a surprise? How's this even news? I initially actually mistook the company name for "La Crosse" which makes a lot of home weather monitoring equipment. I wonder if anyone else thought this...
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So some unknown company with more money than brains spread themselves too thin on random whims
Got it