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New York Mayor Eric Adams Calls Out NYC Workers To Return To Offices (nypost.com) 173

nray writes: Mayor Eric Adams called for people to revive the state's economy by getting "back to work" -- and said he was tired of hearing excuses about the COVID-19 pandemic. "New Yorkers, it's time to get back to work," Adams said during a speech at the state Democratic Committee's Nominating Convention. "You can't tell me you're afraid of COVID on Monday and I see you in a nightclub on Sunday." The crack sparked laughter among the audience at the Sheraton New York Times Square Hotel. Adams said that white-collar workers who continued working from home were hurting service-oriented businesses that rely on a steady stream of customers. "That accountant that's not in his office space is not going to the cleaners," he said. "It's not going to the restaurant. It's not allowing the cooks, the waiters, the dishwashers [to make a living]."
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New York Mayor Eric Adams Calls Out NYC Workers To Return To Offices

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  • by waspleg ( 316038 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:27PM (#62281077) Journal

    person. Fuck this moron.

    • Louis Rossmann (Score:4, Insightful)

      by stooo ( 2202012 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:38PM (#62281131) Homepage

      Louis Rossmann explains it well.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    • I hope he's going to bring back buggies too! Think of the buggy whip manufacturers who have been out of business so long! The farriers and wainwrights!

      Why are NYC office workers using the subway and driving cars? They are not allowing these folks to make a living!

  • No thanks. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by S_Stout ( 2725099 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:30PM (#62281093)
    If a job can be done remotely, the option should be there. If not, people will go find a new job where the option is there.
    • by skam240 ( 789197 )

      Or there won't be a new one because some one who lives in an area with a drastically lower cost of living took it for half the price of what would have been affordable to you. An example of such an area that would be so much cheaper would be about half the planet.at least.

  • It's not my job to waste money on services I no longer need. If I can save money by working from home, that's what I'm going to do. Turns out, I don't need to waste my time commuting or talking to people who don't want to be there any more than I do. Sure, some people need to go to work, but they're 'essential' and already went back. But the rest of us think remote work is the new normal and will find new jobs if we need to.
  • The service sector exists to support the white and blue collar economy. Not the other way around. If there aren't enough people going to offices in NYC (that entire premise being absurd on it's face anyway) then there will be less service and support jobs needed. Eric Adams appears to be quite a simple moron who caters to extremely low hanging fruit.
  • by gillbates ( 106458 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:35PM (#62281117) Homepage Journal

    Why does the mayor hate the environment? Remote work has a lower carbon footprint than going into the office. If anything, they should be tearing down office buildings to force people to work from home.

    • Remote workers tend to move to rural and suburban places where their carbon footprint doubles or even triples as compared to living in a denser city. Oddly, even if they don't commute, their carbon footprint is still increased in the 'burps or rural asteroid belt.
  • by thunderclees ( 4507405 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:36PM (#62281119)

    It all msut be a misunderstanding.
    Since as Adams claims, the reporters need to be the correct color.

    NYC Mayor Eric Adams says white journalists misrepresent him because he is black [slashdot.org]

  • worlds the whole back to the office push should be very interesting/messy.
  • How to be a one term mayor of NYC and be hated by a whole nation
  • by geekmux ( 1040042 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:43PM (#62281149)

    Right now, we know what the mayor of NYC is hurting for.

    Property tax revenue.

    Can't justify millions in corporate property taxes if you can't justify the overpriced, overtaxed building white collar workers have been forced to commute to for decades, as Greed made pathetic excuses about how remote work "doesn't" work.

    Let obscene taxes fall back down to reasonable levels before we even glance in Greed's direction, much less pay attention to pathetic whining from mayors. And if the end result of raising taxes even higher is people leaving your city or state in droves, good. You earned it, and deserve it.

    • Right now, we know what the mayor of NYC is hurting for.

      Property tax revenue.

      In his defence, most cities in America are hurting for property tax revenue. Poor town planning and zoning practices has basically ensured that property tax revenue has plummeted for a given city block. America razed multi-use dwellings to make way for single owner mega stores and parking lots. The push to the suburbs has dramatically increased infrastructure costs per person in many cases to the point of unsustainability.

  • by nray ( 8349933 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:45PM (#62281161)
    Those numbers make no sense. Office traffic is off by 75%, but restaurants are back to 75% of pre-pandemic levels? How can that be? Did you get these numbers from the Mayor's office? What about all that restaurants that closed forever? Are they included in that ridiculous "we're-75 percent-back-to-normal" number? I walk by formerly bustling bars and restaurants in Boston every day. They're ghost towns, no matter what nonsense the forever pandemic crowd is pushing.
    • by mugnyte ( 203225 )
      The Service industry will net-net experience a location-shift; a population dispersal. Hubs based on work locations are dying, but hubs based on living arrangements are growing. Everyone in my local neighborhood can order the food that they like and meet in the park, the deck, the house, etc. The service industry that catered towards corporate clients alone are going to need to switch to residential, where margins are thinner.
  • Expect more of this (Score:3, Interesting)

    by localgh0st ( 1588343 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:47PM (#62281169)

    Polling for Democrats is horrible and they're changing their tune in a very obvious way with regards to masks, mandates, etc.

  • I have visited NYC multiple times, but never understood the appeal of living, much less working there.

    The whole city has always been a trash heap, literal trash everywhere. From what I head that may have even gotten worse, though I can't imagine how.

    The total crime rate is way up [nyc.gov] so if you do go in, getting mugged or raped or simply chucked coin front of a subway by some random crazo are all in the cards.

    On top of of all that, have you ever tried to commute into NYC? I've had the pleasure of taking the tr

  • Who isn't a piece of garbage? It's not a bad City and the people there are good but man they're Mayors always the trashiest human being alive. There is no barrel with a bottom deep enough that New York won't dredge up a mayor out of it.
    • I have a similar question (which will probably get modded as off-topic because...it is. So be it.)

      The US has a population of about 330 million, of which around 180 million are over the age of 35 (minimum age to be president of the US). Why can't either party find somebody in those 180 million people who would make a decent president? Neither candidate in the last two presidential elections has been anybody I wanted to vote for. Surely there are better qualified people than Trump, H. Clinton, or Biden.

      Ma

  • Good to know where the democrats' priorities lie. Color me shocked...shocked I tell you!.. that money is more important than a global environmental crisis.

  • He can try to tell people to come in to work but many folks have already started to plan their exit strategy. More and more each day I'm seeing folks offering up free office furniture and systems furniture for cubicles on craigslist. Folks are starting to close up offices or at least reducing their footprint because everyone is trying to cut costs due to the increase in costs of doing business.

    • by mugnyte ( 203225 )
      Indeed - this mayor is years behind. The "getting work done" mantra was achieved over a year ago when the IT sector rose the opportunity to facilitate dispersed workers for the last segment of office workers. Even before Covid, the trend was there: Digital Nomads working 40-hour weeks from various destinations.
  • That's where you live after all. Maybe this bullshit will fly over there in Jersey, but I doubt it.

  • Good times (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jovius ( 974690 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:57PM (#62281205)

    I've worked as an independent contractor since some time before the pandemic. The best move i've ever made. I do the same job, but for multiple clients and on my own. The office work before almost killed me (I started to descend into anxiety/depression). It wasn't the work or the people. It was the loss of control in the sense that I needed to be there from 9 to 5, and I was locked/forced into certain mode during those hours. Now I can freely flow between work and other stuff and it's perfect. My productivity is higher, when I'm in control of my time. I can do the day's work in less time than before and still get paid more. I haven't had an alarm clock to wake me up for 3.5 years, and I still wake up early and fresh. Actually earlier, because before even the idea that I need to be in the office at certain hour stressed me and disturbed my sleep.

    I know this is not for all, but I sincerely hope that businesses understand what potential they're perhaps missing, if things are forced back to 'normal' for all. A deadline/target oriented way of work could be a solution. How anyone uses the time between start and finish could be up to them. This is not a new idea, but was a revelation for me.

    Anyway, your mental health is more important than moving money.

  • by mugnyte ( 203225 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:59PM (#62281213) Journal

    Employers are offering packages the include plenty of Remote Opportunities. If they are successful at this, real estate is next-in-line to take the hit.

    The city knows this. Restaurants are fine - they'll serve the people near them. In their perspective, this is a geo-density-shift now, not an absolute drop.

    This mayor would be wise to begin incentivizing offices to repurpose into residential, artist, communal space. Offices are disappearing, homes are dispersing. After destroying physical information (books, maps, newspapers, photography) - the digital revolution is now consuming location itself.

    Wait until this Mayor, and others, discover that companies, currency, products, employees and information ALREADY do not need to heed any sort of uniform space/location, nationality, tax base, schedule, etc.

    • "This mayor would be wise to begin incentivizing offices to repurpose into residential..."

      Given there is a shortage of affordable housing that should the priority. Change the zoning laws if need be.

  • other people have already done it for me.

    Screw you, Mr Mayor. If those businesses are no longer needed, they should die out, and workers should move on to more desired vocations. You could be doing them a favour, giving them a nudge to change something for the better in their lives, you know?

  • He is worried that in the future New York will not get enough taxes due to all the people working remotely.

  • "The is-ought fallacy occurs when the assumption is made that because things are a certain way, they should be that way."
    • That happens to be one of the arguments for preventing climate change: the climate of 1900 or so was ideal. I realize it's not the only argument, but it's surely the worst argument. And I get that sea level rise is a concern, but if that's a concern, why not say that the climate of 5000 BC was ideal--when Doggerland was above water?

  • by Bruce66423 ( 1678196 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:43PM (#62281393)

    And the people who've they got influence over will continue to spout the 'return to the office' demand for the next few years. Meanwhile companies will divide into those infested by extroverts who need to be in the office for their sanity, and us introverts for whom working from home is the most productivity enhancing thing since the PC.

  • So by this logic, people who bring their own lunches to the office are hurting NYC economy. How about those people who don't live in the city. Or those that go home after work.

    Fucking asshole.
  • For three months, it shall be acceptable to work in the office wearing a ratty bathrobe, boxer shorts, a stained tee shirt, slippers and bed hair.

  • I don't need to be yelled at by public servants.

    Come to think of it, has NYC ever had *any* mayor with even a modicum of respect for his citizens?

  • Yes businesses are seeing a lack of customers and that's hurting.
    But it doesn't help that the normal rules of supply and demand don't seem to apply to NYC commercial real estate and that despite the fact that supply vastly exceeds demand (as evidenced by the many many empty retail premises in NYC right now) the greed of landlords, banks and others means prices aren't comming down.

  • by magzteel ( 5013587 ) on Friday February 18, 2022 @06:31PM (#62281767)

    I will not be commuting to the city just so I can spend the day on zoom calls from my office desk, followed by another long commute home. My neighborhood is now full of ex-commuters who have no intention of returning to that life. The train parking lot which used to be jam-packed is now mostly empty.

  • If the only thing that's keeping a city afloat is people buying sandwiches at lunchtime, then isn't it a sign we don't need as much of a city?
  • The glazier is sitting by his very quiet phone lately. Come on you lazy vandals, it's time to get off your butts and start throwing some rocks again! The economy needs you!

  • Gov. Hochul has also been spreading the same message [ny1.com].

    NY and NJ were the top two states for outbound migration during the pandemic. If workers don't have to be at a specific physical location, chain of the office is broken, and the worker can then find living situation to be in a place they like to live. The politicians are trying to stem the flow by getting that chain hooked back up.

  • Just increase tolls for coming into the city on the weekend to cover the revenue shortage. Suburbs dont have the density to support nightclubs.
  • So I have to go to lower Manhattan for business. I notice...no one else in a suit. Everyone is a student or construction worker. Few tourists. City Hall area used to be wall-to-wall, but now ? Empty buildings and rats. Walk uptown, and the storefronts are empty save occasional coffee shops...all the Jewelers, Retail clothing, etc...dead, dead, dead. I worked in NYC for many years before working at home, long before the pandemic, and the whole world I knew is now just that grey grit dust NYC has. Even
  • with all due respect (Score:5, Informative)

    by jsepeta ( 412566 ) on Saturday February 19, 2022 @12:50AM (#62282529) Homepage

    Fuck you, Eric Adams, and all your multimillionaire friends. I don't ever want to return to an office again, or to 2+ hours commuting every day, or to a suit and tie and expensive dry cleaning bills and ridiculously expensive fast food meals when I'm stuck downtown. Demanding that white collar workers return to cubicles after we've proven we can get the job done from the comfort of our own apartments is fucking bullshit.

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