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Phantom Menace Pre-Orders Available 206

Geckoman writes "Amazon.com has The Phantom Menace available for presales in both widescreen and pan-and-scan. If you're boycotting Amazon, then you can also find it at Reel.com among other places."
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  • by Anonymous Coward
    natalie portman is hiding in a room full of old ibm mainframes. open source man is trying to locate her.

    open source man: you cannot hide forever, natalie.

    natalie portman: i will not be open sourced.

    open source man: give yourself to the open source community. it is the only way you can save your friends.

    natalie portman strains to contain her thoughts.

    open source man: ah yes, your thoughts betray you. your feelings for them are strong. especially for... sister. so... you have a twin sister! now your feelings have betrayed her too. your parents were wise to hide her from me. now their failure is complete! if you will not be open sourced, then perhaps she will!

    natalie portman jumps out from behind a mainframe, wielding a can of mace. she begins beating open source man back with it.

    natalie portman: noooooooo!

    natalie portman sprays open source man in the face with the self-protection spray. he crumples to the ground, holding his arm out to protect his face from another attack.

    natalie portman is crazed with the power of open source.

    esr cackles evilly as he steps down from his platform toward natalie.


    esr: good. good! your firm young buttocks has made you powerful. now, release your sexuality and take open source man's place at my side.

    natalie looks down at the fallen open source man, breathing heavily as his sinuses sting from the mace. she harkens back to her youthful obsession with a hot young actor.

    natalie portman: never. i'll never turn to the open source side. you failed your highness. i am closed source, like open source man before me... err, something.

    esr: so be it, closed-source girl. if you will not be open sourced, then you will be bludgeoned with the open source sausage!

    esr grabs a giant sausage with a taxidermied gnu's head mounted on the end of it. he begins to beat natalie with it.

    esr: hot young actress... only now, at the end, do you understand! you have paid the price for your lack of vision!

    esr thrashes some more... open source man shakes off the mace.

    esr: your hot young femininity is no match for the power of open source!

    esr beats natalie again. open source man pulls himself to his feet and stands next to esr.

    esr: and now, young portman, you will feel the full wrath of the gnu!

    natalie portman screams in horror as esr thrashes her harder.

    natalie portman: aaaargghghghghgh! open source man! please! help me!

    open source man looks fondly open natalie's firm young buttocks. he looks at esr. with a final surge of passion for the hot young actress, open source man lifts esr over his head and carries him to the window. open source man tosses esr into the blackness of night, but not before esr gets several good whacks in with the open source sausage.

    open source man collapses to the floor. natalie portman crawls over to him and holds his head gently in her arms...



    thank you.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    I find it offensive that a link to Amazon was even provided. It's mitigated somewhat by mention of the boycott and an alternate place to buy from. But really should Slashdot be providing Amazon with any free advertising, considering their outrageouos behavior?
  • by Anonymous Coward
    How, where and WHY do you come up with this stuff? You are really, really sick. Funny stuff :-)
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Whatever is a geek to do? On the one hand we have the Phantom Menace available for our libraries (tho not on DVD) and on the other hand it's being peddled by a member of the MPAA.

    It ought to be interesting to see the general reaction to this amongst the /. "community". The self-same community that howls in righteous indignation when some of its members are persecuted by the sellers of that which they desire to possess.

    Interesting indeed.

    As for me: I'll not be buying nor renting a single thing from anybody associated with the MPAA.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    At the official Boycott Amazon [goatse.cx] site
  • by Anonymous Coward
    DO NOT go to the above web site as it contains a very offensive picture and no petition.
  • Yes DVD has region coding. Yes it has macrovision. It is also, for all practical purposes, an open standard because it has been broken. Support it by buying lots of DVDs and demanding ones for movies that aren't in the format yet, like TPM.

    After all, what are you waiting for to support? A new uncrackable and closed format with even more restrictions than DVD? I don't understand the "boycott DVD' thinking.

    Because a new open standard just Ain't Gonna Happem (tm), the next best thing is to support the one that was cracked. Boycotting DVD will only make it easier for Hollowood jerks to point at low sales and say how it therefore won't be a big deal to dump the format in favor of the next DIVX2.0. Billions of DVDs in poeples homes create a "piss off" factor that even Hollywood must yield to.

    Support the DVD format now! Before something worse can come along to replace it!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30, 2000 @11:50AM (#1321216)
    These are a few of the things I'd rather do than give money to someone whose new trilogy is supposedly about the evil of greed and then sets new standards in it (the real reason SW1 not on DVD? I'm betting it's that there's only 5 million players out there now. Drive demand up, wait till there's an established base of 40 million, say, then flood it out).

    10) Install Windows 2000

    9) Surf the Gay Jedi [sockiipress.org] fanfic page.

    8) Call up the MPAA and rat on people who link to DeCSS

    7) Make Natalie Portman posts on /.

    6) Try to make money by getting my friends to read my epinions (you too can be a spammer).

    5) Run Ultima 9 on a non VooDoo 3 card.

    4) Start a Daiktana fan page

    3) Meet Jeff K [somethingawful.com] on IRC for hacking tips. (FrEE KEVIN NITMACK!)

    2) Code a DOS Emulator for Linux so I can play badass games designed for 486s

    1) Order DVDs from MPAA aligned studios on Amazon.

    These may sound evil - but they're probably more productive for your own karma in the long run.

  • I keep hearing allusions to this hot-grits-down-pants thing.. It sounds like quite an amusing thread -- but, which story featured the original hot-grits thread that started all of this?

    Alex Bischoff
    ---

  • From IMDB [imdb.com], the Chris Farley quote from Black Sheep is "I'm just dandy, I got a bowl of chocolate pudding in my underpants!"

    You can hear it in wav format [xoom.com] as well (from this page [geocities.com]).

    Alex Bischoff
    ---

  • Oh no! I'm blind!

  • You miss the key point: There's actually a link in the article summary that lets you order the video from amazon. Your comment didn't contain any links pointing me to Microsoft so I could order a few copies of Visual Basic.

    Next!

    - A.P.
    --


    "One World, one Web, one Program" - Microsoft promotional ad

  • Hit chapters.ca for good prices (and no amazon!)

    Here's a link [chapters.ca].

  • ...it's $15 more than the regular VHS version. Why the dramatic difference? It looks like Lucas is screwing us over. To get the widescreen version, you have to get the Collector's Edition, which comes with a collector's book, 35mm filmstrip (?)...

    Maybe it's a 35mm print of the film. That would justify the $15. :)

  • by David Price ( 1200 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @11:52AM (#1321223)
    Amazon has received a patent for "one-click ordering," which is essentially the process by which they associate an identification cookie on the customer's machine with the customer's billing and shipping information, allowing the customer to only fill out this information once.

    The idea is obvious, the implementation straightforward but time-consuming (Amazon will eagerly tell you that they have "thousands of hours" of work tied up in one-click, which is technically true - it takes thousands of hours of work to implement this obvious feature.)

    Having obtained this rather dubious patent for such an obvious e-commerce service, they have turned around and sued Barnes and Noble, coincidentally their biggest competitor, for infringing upon it. If they succeed, they set a dangerously low standard for what is patentable in the world of e-commerce, and will permit the digital amalgams of basic physical customer service to be monopolized via the patent system. (When you think about it, this is electronically equivalent to your corner bookseller recognizing who you are and billing your charge account. It's a business practice that's been around for hundreds of years, but when you do it with a computer, you can get a patent.)

    The FSF [gnu.org] has a page on the boycott [gnu.org].

  • After watching a complete movie in DVD, I'm never going to bother with VHS again. DVD truly is spectacular on a computer monitor. VHS is truly a colossal waste of time and money. When you get your graduation presents, make sure they have a DVD drive. You don't need a decoder, just download a software DVD player. I don't care what Linus/Transmeta says. A Linux box and a computer monitor will always have better color and resolution than any crummy appliance.
  • There will no doubt be those that would really prefer seeing the next film in the Star Wars saga in full DVD glory but are willing to spring for the VHS version today, as a DVD release is quite distant.

    Please don't!

    If we want to send Lucas a message, this is our chance to do it. If we can spread the word and get people to avoid buying the VHS version of the movie in favor of waiting for a superior DVD release, we can hopefully send a message in the language Lucas seems to speak fluently: his pocketbook.

    Poor VHS sales, with enough publicity, will hopefully be attributed to everyone's preference for DVD. Since it's quite likely he's trying to milk everyone for VHS purchases in addition to DVD purchases down the road, let's try to keep this from happening.

    DVD is a superior video format. Don't get suckered into getting a VHS version of the movie just because you can't wait, and for those that are even thinking about getting a DVD player in the future, STOP BUYING VHS altogether, the sooner the better.
  • Up until a few years ago, the 'Star Wars' trilogy was magic to me. I loved to watch the movies, I loved to read the stories based on the movies. George Lucas was a god; I had a lot of respect for the man and his work.

    This is no longer the case. After countless video versions, a prequel movie that's full of holes and weak on plot, and a senseless refusal to embrace DVD, Star Wars is now just another moneygrubbing franchise to me. It's a lot like what happened to Dilbert -- it was way cool at first, but now that it's merchandised all to heck, I've just lost my taste for it.

    Y'know what? Forget about Star Wars on DVD. I'm not going to go beg to a studio. If Lucas doesn't want my money, there are plenty of other studios with good movies who are supporting DVD, and I'm quite happy to buy from them instead.

  • Once you go widescreen, you never go back. Therefore, I went to Reel.com to see what the widescreen version cost (I don't get into all the boycotting BS and DeCSS bunk, so I don't really care; it was just the only link) and whoa, it's $15 more than the regular VHS version. Why the dramatic difference? It looks like Lucas is screwing us over. To get the widescreen version, you have to get the Collector's Edition, which comes with a collector's book, 35mm filmstrip (?), and a documentary. What if you don't want all that garbage? Well, you're screwed then.

    Does Lucas know how to make money or what? Seriously, this guy is starting to make Bill Gates look like a kid with a cheap lemonade stand.
  • Yes, but Lucas is like a father to us. Look at how well he has entertained us, and how long he's been doing it for. Why not reward him for his work? It's only $15. Go to the theatre and you're likely to spend more than that, and you only get to watch it once there.

    Lucas isn't like a father to me. He's continually prevented me from watching Star Wars the way that I want to see it (widescreen, remastered, on DVD, etc.), and he's done the same with his other good movies. His bombs are crap. If I want my widescreen edition, I don't pay just $15 either. I pay $33, which is much more than I want to give the man for one of his movies, I don't care how much I like it or its predecessors.
  • by Hrunting ( 2191 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @11:55AM (#1321229) Homepage
    Well then here is a link for you my apathetic friend. You complain about an edition costing more. If you'd stand for something like the rest of us, it may just bring the prices down.

    Real mature. Amazon isn't keeping prices high for me (in fact, Amazon's continually got lower prices than my regular bricks-n-mortars locations) and DeCSS has only turned out to be a pissing contests between people who think they have the right to everything and people who think those same people have the right to nothing. I can choose better battles than Amazon's patenting rights (which isn't doing jack for prices one way or the other) and DeCSS, both of which are destructive battles, not constructive battles. Simply because I do not share your views about OSS legal views is not a reason to lessen my opinion about Star Wars marketing habits.

    The major point is, Lucas is releasing a common video format in a much more expensive 'Collector's Edition'. I'd rather he release a special edition with a DVD in it instead or a regular Widescreen edition, like he did with the Special Edition videos. It has nothing to do with boycotting Amazon or my views on DeCSS.

    And as far as prices go, Amazon is $4 cheaper than Reel.com for the same Collector's Edition. I could care less about their patent. Fifteen percent off is a good bargain, and the fact that they patented their e-commerce model is a trivial reason to not take advantage of it. I'm sure millions of shoppers also agree.

    You pick your battles. I'll pick mine. But my views about Star Wars have nothing to do with any of them.
  • by Morgaine ( 4316 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @01:34PM (#1321230)
    Actually the message "We don't buy any more videotape" must be resonating quite loudly in studio land, ie. as a significant drop in video sales to accompany the rise in DVD sales.

    I wonder how long it'll be before they realize that tape is well on the way to becoming a legacy medium for film distribution (as distinct from TV time-shifting)? Nobody that I know buys films on video anymore, even if they don't (yet) have DVD players -- they know it's money wasted. I give it 3 years max.
  • by Morgaine ( 4316 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @02:01PM (#1321231)
    No, you've got that wrong: DVDs played on the computer monitor do NOT look better than on video or TV monitors. At best, the picture might have better geometry, but the experience will almost always be worse than on any half-decent lounge TV.

    DVDs are encoded for presentation on an ordinary video display, so it's not surprising that that's what they display best on.

    However, you can have your cake and eat it too by using a display card with a TV out, such as for example some of the MPEG decoder cards, and they often have S-video output as well, which yields even clearer pictures on the telly. Hook up your computer to an infrared remote sensor (like the IRman) positioned next to the TV and watching DVDs becomes a far more enjoyable experience than you can have watching it directly on your computer.
  • While I think the movie sucked ass overall, I will purcahse it for the Jedi fight scenes alone...eventually. The implication is that Lucas will get none of my money until the movie is out on DVD. 'Nuff said.
    --
    Kyle R. Rose, MIT LCS
  • Right on man, same here. I don't buy VHS anymore. Plain and simple. Damn the man, but respect his talent. I'm just not going to give him any of my money on VHS.

    ---
  • And for all you Natalie Portman worshippers, you too can own your very own 5' tall Natalie [amazon.com], available from Amazon.Com's zShops.

    Yes, it's cardboard. Sorry to dissapoint you all. You can continue building your Natalie sexbot from your Lego Mindstorms kits now. =)
    --
  • 28$ Canadian for the widescreen version....
  • Hey, you could pre-order it from Amazon for 28$
    American, or you could pre-order it from Chapters
    (Chapters.ca) for 28$ Canadian (~20$ US).
    Consider are statement against Amazon if you wish.
  • If you don't want to order The Phantom Menace from Amazon, go to Starwars.com [starwars.com] and order it there. I am sure there are plenty of other places to get it as well, but that's where I ordered mine.
  • Once you go widescreen, you never go back.

    I agree. I love widescreen movies, and watching a Pan & Scan movie makes me sick. (Especially the ones where the Pan & Scan is done badly, and it's obvious. Ugh...)

    What I can't understand, is my brother and my parents. They HATE widescreen, and insist that you're losing the top and bottom when you watch it that way. (I've tried explaining to them that you are actually losing the sides of the picture when you DON'T watch it widescreen, but those "big black spaces" bother them.)

    My brother would rather watch a widescreen movie squashed horozontally to fit the screen, than watch it regular widescreen. God, you thought Pan & Scan was bad? Try squishing a widescreen movie into a square box, and watch it that way. (He watches all of his widescreen movies like that. Ugh....)

    -- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

  • This is probably as good a place as any to plug the Star Wars on DVD campaign, which has an on-line petiton up. Go sign it.

    Linking in comments seems to be broken at the moment, so the URL is http://www.dvdfile.com/interactive/guestbook/addgu est.html

  • Damn, if you think DVD and VHS are close to the same quality, you must be watching on a 10 year old 19" TV with the built-in speakers.

    I don't have a GREAT system, just a 27", an old Dolby Pro-logic receiver and some 15 year old crappy radio shack speakers, but even so, the difference between VHS and DVD is *very* noticable (when the studio does a good job with the transfer).

    Also, the special features are at least as appealing to me; there's HOURS of extra stuff on some movies. Maybe only appealing to fans of the movie, but that's the market here.

    Plus, I'm tired of spending $$ buying new copies of the same movies because the tapes have worn out. Lesse, I have 2 copies of the original Star Wars trilogy (both now in bad shape), plus a copy of the special edition (which will go to hell in 5 years), not to mention my CED disc of Ep4. All told I've spent over $150 on the first 4 episodes. Had I been able to buy them on DVD, I would have saved a lot of money, even if they weren't any better quality.

    (I'm not buying PM until it comes out on DVD. Maybe not even then; it wasn't a very good movie)
  • by Juggle ( 9908 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @11:37AM (#1321241) Homepage
    Not to mention the already old dispute over why Lucas isn't releasing a DVD version. If he has the time to put together a special edition VHS version they why can't he also do a special edition DVD. (Which is the excuse given for no DVD release).

    I hate to think it but the only explanation I can come up with is trying to trick us into buying the movie twice. One on VHS since that's the only way we can get it and once on DVD so we can actually enjoy a quality version with good video and true surround sound (Not that lucas even bothers with dolby Pro-Logic on his videos instead claiming his THX crap is better. Even though all THX does is simulate suround from a non-suround recording and then only if you shell out the bucks to buy a decoder from someone who shelled out the bucks to guy the rights to put THX on).

    Sorry, but personally I wasn't impressed enough by the movie to run out a spend my money twice. Espically if I have to shell out more to get widescreen (How anyone can defent pan and scan I still don't understand.). Lucas, if you truly care as much about quality as you claim then stop bilking your customers for money and give us a true high quality home video. This crap just dosen't cut it with informed consumers.

  • Nerd also means a sence of humour. Usually a very wierd nerdy one. This is what you miss.
  • A bootleg has been released in fourth world countries very long ago. About a week after the movie hit the screen. Go skying ;-)

  • by Fizgig ( 16368 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @12:12PM (#1321244)
    There is a referral link in that link, and I doubt it's Slashdot's (of course I could be wrong, but why would they still have links to Amazon?). I consider it extremely lame to try to get your affiliat link slashdotted. Really lame. And if it isn't supposed to be there, I forgive emmett :) He's new
  • Personally, I'm bothered that he's not doing LaserDiscs. He released the "Last Ever Original" set on Laser, and the "Oooh... I have a COMPUTER" Special Editions.

    Not that I'd buy TPM on ANY format, I'm just bothered that letterboxing, which costs less to make than Pan&Scan, is only a "special costs too much" edition.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: Fuck Lucas. He's screwing his audience and only the ones smart enough to pay attention will notice anything unsavoury going on. I started getting suspicious when the letterbox "Final Original" VHS package wasn't released until *after* Christmas.

    Pope
  • This is news? Gimme a break.

    Slashdot is beginning to insult my intelligence.
  • Anyone who's even the slightest bit interested in watching movies widescreen has access to a DVD player by now (either owning a player, or having a computer with a DVD player, or a friend with either).

    So who's going to buy the VHS widescreen copy? I personally can't stand the thought of buying another tape and watching it decay before my eyes - I'd sort of like to have the movie but I'll wait for the DVD. In the meantime, I'll eatch the Matrix another 100 times... per week.


  • Don't buy TPM or anything else from the companies suing to stop deCSS or MP3s or whatever is next. Don't give them the money to finance these battles!
  • Well, maybe we should have stuck to black and white televisions too. Or maybe just moving picture cinemas.

    The point is progress, and DVD cannot become the standard unless people use it. The quality is much increased, and the disc is much less susceptible to damage.

    If you dislike progress, I'd have to question why you are a slashdot reader. Technology is _moving forward_, and DVD is definitely part of that path.
  • by Nodatadj ( 28279 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @01:23PM (#1321250) Journal
    Write-in's were the best part, as it just became a competition to see what the funniest end for the question could be.
    The best I remembered was
    IMac: I'd rather have a ____ coloured one.

    And the best write in for it was "real computer than a stupid girly"
  • I support independant movies and Japanese anime on DVD.

    I made an exception for The Matrix... Is that bad?

    One thing that really bugs me about DVD players is that they sometimes disable the fast forward and skip buttons when they're in the FBI warnings or the movie company logo/intro things. That just sucks. I want a DVD player that will ignore those requests from the disc. I want to be able to fast forward through those things.

  • Right on.

    Anyone who thinks that TPM was even "okay" should think back to the couple of minutes when they were outside the theater after seeing TPM for the first time, on opening day. There were hundreds of star wars fans dressed in star wars costumes standing around talking trying really hard not to be disappointed. Hell, I played that game too. I tried to "look on the bright side". But it didn't work. You can only lie to yourself for so long.

  • /. promotes Star Wars because they feel its synonomous w/ Geekdom...and they're willing to take this idea to its irrational extreme.

    Of course, there's lots of other things that should be put in this catagory. I've never seen CUBE, but one thing I must question you on is Pi. I saw that film, and, imho, it sucked. Of course, all my friends thought it was good, but ehn, their taste is screwed up. :-)
    So, general question to that /. community: What makes Pi so great? I simply didn't get it...
    --------------------------
  • I'm done buying VHS - period! Particularly the Star Wars flicks - I now have three boxed sets of Episodes IV-VI (first-release, THX, and Special Edition WideScreen - jeesh). I refuse to go through it again - besides, Episode I wasn't all that great anyway - but I do want it in my collection.

  • The movie wad devoid of entertainment, why on
    earth would anybody want to see it again?

    Maybe we'll get interviews with a big fat blobby
    george lucas in a turtleneck.

    Man, I swear, whenever I see the triology
    interviews with that man, he looks like he's
    going to pop right out of that thing.
  • There seems to be a 'boycott' of DVD going on, but many of the same people are saying that they would only buy Episode 1 on DVD. Is there some sort of rule I'm missing? "Thou shalt not buy a DVD, unless the DVD is Star Wars." If we hate the DVD people so much, then we should be happy that Episode 1 is only available on VHS.
  • However, does it cost more than $8 US additionally to ship to the US from Canada? Last time I checked, that's technically an "international" shipment and is subject to higher shipping rates.
  • Oh no. The couple hundred dollars you decide not to spend on movies will really strike a nerve with the people heading the multibillion-dollar entertainment industry.

    Boycott Microsoft. Boycott the MPAA. Boycott eToys. I'm sure they're shaking in their boots. Can you imagine?

    Geek's friend: "Hey, here's this cool little game I got where you throw snowballs at kids! It's awesome!"
    Geek: "I'm sorry, that game runs on Windows. Windows is evil because it is written by Microsoft, who do not support the software ideals that I hold dear. You, sir, are perpetuating the monopoly that Microsoft has over our collective consciences and are therefore insulting my intelligence."
    Friend: "Um, OK. Wanna go catch a movie tonight?"
    Geek: "No. That would be supporting the Motion Picture Association of America, whose selfish motions have deeply tarnished the entertainment portion of open source, which is obviously the future of the world once everyone learns to stop using Windows which is evil."

    And you wonder why geeks don't get out much.
  • by / ( 33804 )
    After a month or so, the comments get flattened and the -1 posts are thrown out. Inasmuch as the grits posts consistently get moderated to hell, you won't be able to find them. Once upon a time, Rob was tossing around the idea of selling a quarterly slashdot cdrom with stories and comments, but nothing ever came of that.
  • Trusty google [google.com] has turned up the following slashdot relic [slashdot.org] (it may not be the original, but it is quite old):

    It's the "grits" problem all over again
    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10
    [, 1999], @02:00AM EDT

    ...Every boy from south of the Mason-Dixon line swears that grits are good eatin'. However, no Northerner can seem to figure out why. They suck. The answer every southern boy gives him is, "you just haven't had them the way my mom makes them."

    The point is, if it's that hard to do it right, it isn't as inherently good as all those southern boys (or .mp3 fans) try to make it out to be. Fact is, it's going to suck if it isn't done exactly right, and it's next to impossible to do it exactly right, so why not just dedicate the efforts to more worthwhile tasks (like developing affordable broadband internet connections so we can pirate raw cdda data instead, or eating oatmeal)?
  • Apparently the DVD versions of the BTTF trilogy are finished and awaiting studio approval for release. They're being held up for "marketing" reasons (grrr)

    source: http://www.bttf.com/dvd/ [bttf.com]

  • Well if you emailed Rob, he could probably go back and tell you where the reference to pouring hot grits down one's pants first appeared. I doubt anyone here really remembers (except for the guy who made it up).

    It wasn't funny at first, because it was totally offtopic and stupid. Then I thought it was sort of amusing because it was at least a running gag. And now it's annoying because all the other little trolls are doing it too.

    -----------

    "You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."

  • The Cube was thought-provoking, but I wouldn't reccomend it... not really worth watching more than once. Better than Jar-Jar, I'll give you that...
  • Yup... as a recent college grad, when I put together my home system I bought a DVD player - I don't OWN a VHS player, and don't plan on buying one for the purpose of watching a often poorly rendered Jar-Jar in less resolution... Last time I checked, my old VCRs really didn't have a digital out for 5.1, and weren't THX certified ;-) Oh, well - I can wait a couple of years to see the best lightsaber fight ever made...
  • Hehe - you are gonna have a tought time when you get an HDTV (in widescreen format)... "Now even Wheel of Fortune is cut off on the top and bottom!!! There's not even any screen there!!!" Oh well - trying to explain things to people who don't want to understand can be quite difficult. Drawing pictures helps though - maybe grab one of those explanation pages out of a Crutchfield or some other mag to show them what you mean...

    Just my $.0004^.5
  • by Hobbex ( 41473 )

    People, weren't we going to boycott the MPAA?

    I guess we really do have the 20 second attention span that most modern movies assume of us.

    -
    We cannot reason ourselves out of our basic irrationality. All we can do is learn the art of being irrational in a reasonable way.
  • So you say,
    "I don't get into all the boycotting BS and DeCSS bunk, so I don't really care; it was just the only link."

    Well then here is a link [iamanidiot.com] for you my apathetic friend. You complain about an edition costing more. If you'd stand for something like the rest of us, it may just bring the prices down.
  • Hello McFly's... This is old. A repost. It's not relevant. It is funny, but it takes up to much of my screen. I suppose that this is about as close to getting laid by Miss Portman as many of you will ever be... but get a life you dweebs.
  • Slashdotters, This is a great opportunity to send the message to all that we won't stand for Amazon.com with their ridiculous "One-Click" patents and the MPAA with their desire for "Corporate Marshall Law." The Amazon.com case is bad enough, but if that were the only problem, the solution would be simple. Buy from another. Yet, this whole DeCSS thing is out of control. Plain and simply put, the case FOR DeCSS must be won or else the precident that will be set will be dangerous.

    I am but one man. I don't know what will need to be done to effectively send the message. Boycotts are good. But we are all going to have to do it. I'm not buying DVDs. I'm boycotting movies. What else do I do? What else do we all do? Join the EFF? Ok, I'll do that too. But, what else?

    Let's win soon guys. I really want to buy a DVD player and DVD movies. And that includes SW:TPM (when it's on DVD)
  • Wasn't their talk about it released on VCD in select Asian markets? If so, any information about the availability (truth or rumor?) of this version, and how to obtain it, would be appreciated.
  • The Matrix is already out on DVD. shrugs
  • Please send a message to amazon don't give them your money.
  • moderate this down
  • what about Alan Cox the wooky
  • Read about it here [slashdot.org].
  • by jlund ( 73067 )
    I was hoping they'd release it on DIVX. That would go well with my 200 disc Sony DVD changer... Oh, that's right DIVX is DEAD. Someday Lucas will get a clue and release it on DVD, but obviously it is NOT anytime soon. I guess I'll have to watch SW, ESB and RJ on LaserDisc again, since I won't be seeing any of them on my preferred format...DVD I NEVER buy VHS...
  • The first ref I saw was back in 98, when some anon poster said something 'did about as much good as pouring grits in my pants'

    The regular series of 'I just pored grits down my pants' appears to be unrelated to that, however. I figure that someone just thought grits in their pants would be funny. At least one of the posts have survived archival; I wasted three moderator points once making sure a terribly humerous example of the genre made it into the archives at +2.. I waste too many of my points making sure the AC's actually get the attention they are due.
  • Does anyone else see the VHS-only release as another marketing ploy? That is, make everyone buy VHS, and then later release the dvd to sell to diehard fans who probably already have the VHS (so people who like the movie and have a dvd player and vcr will end up buying both vhs and dvd). Maybe we should rename The Phantom Menace to The Phantom Merchandising.
  • I'm glad I don't have moderator points today; I'd more than likely get grouchy and use them the wrong way. I'd moderate every " Aren't we supposed to be boycotting blah blah? " article down. Of course, disagreement isn't what moderation is for, so here I post.

    YOU can boycott the MPAA if you like, because they like to sue Norweigians who put slashes in their Os or put k00l hacks in their websites.

    YOU can tell Spielberg that you don't want Schindler's List or Star Wars, Chapter One: Phantom Menace or anything else he sells, on DVD(tm), LaserDisc(tm), VHS Collector's Edition(tm), Special Remastered Widescreen Edition(tm), "Jar Jar in My Pants" Underoos Special Edition(tm), or whatever else he markets for a buck.

    YOU can firewall off DoubleClick if you like, because they write down your zipcode and tell a few online vendors that you also buy "Jar Jar in my Pants" Underoos.

    YOU can decide not to support Michael Dell, because he's "in bed" with Intel, and everyone knows that Dell should use AMD because they're both coincidentally in Austin, TX.

    YOU can fire off a flame at JonKatz when he writes about how so many kids are being cruelly taunted for wearing Jar Jar Binks Underoos, too.

    YOU can tell Amazon.com to take a trip up the biggest river without your paddle, because they spitefully try to litigate the number of clicks it took you to find and buy a copy of the "Jar Jar in my Pants" Edition on one of their competitors' sites.

    YOU can email billg@microsoft.com with your personal opinion of Windoze, Winhose, Winlose, Whinos (What leet name do you choose today?). You can giggle and gloat when you spend a few hours setting up a non-Microsoft solution that plays your legally obtained copy of "Jar Jar" DVD on your non-Dell computer, free of interruption from banner ads.

    YOU can do whatever you want, it's your dollars, it's your time, it's your pants. I agree that there's a lot of stupidity in corporate life, and a lot of people out there trying a little too hard to stake their claim in the first years of a massive new market of online consumers.

    Me, I just want to read SlashDot, hear about the various issues that are facing the geek community, and come to my own conclusions about what I should or should not do. When you assume that I'll follow like a lamb to every one of the causes posted here, you do me a disservice. Perhaps individuality isn't the hallmark of geekdom, after all.

    Thanks for letting me ramble on, on a news/discussion service that DOES post a variety of topics and lets ANYONE speak their mind.

    -----------------------------------

    p.s. Anagrams for "Jar Jar in my Pants" Underoos Special Edition, for those who like such things, may enjoy aspirins in maladjusted incorporate, after reading my journals despite draconian 'penis majority'.

  • by LocalYokel ( 85558 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @11:33AM (#1321280) Homepage Journal
    No DVD, no sale -- and even if there was one, I'd be hesitant to get a copy of TPM before The Matrix and about a hundred other movies that I think were better, including episodes IV-VI.

    Can an article be moderated as flamebait? We've been over all of this, and I'm sure that it will just be a matter of moments before the forum is ignited and flames about the lack of DVD (like myself), the evil MPAA and their handling of DeCSS, the supposed "boycott" of Amazon.com for their software patent, and of course, the beautiful Natalie Portman start flying...

  • one of my leet acquaintances from irc owns the site. the idea is that the domain is supposed to sound like "goat sex" when prounounced (goat se.cx). he then found some random gross out picture and posted it there to play a sick joke on people who went there. i still think its pretty funny if you ask me.
  • By the same token, all Microsoft bashing should be forbidden, because every time someone mentions Microsoft it's like free advertising for Microsoft. (See how much mileage Microsoft is getting out of this one comment?)
    --
  • The article also contains a mention of the boycott against Amazon, as well as a link to an alternative source for the video.

    And that mention of Amazon has generated more negative than positive publicity for them. If you look at the rest of the comments, you'll see a lot of discussion of the Amazon boycott, including notes from people who didn't know about the boycott until they read this article.

    Maybe it wasn't fair to mention just two sources for the video, but Geckoman was trying to be helpful, and obviously couldn't list every e-tailer on the Web. (Note, btw, that contrary to the conspiracy theorists, the Amazon link seems to have been submitted by a reader, not put in by the Slashdot editors.)
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  • If you are playing DVD on your computer, and you are not flat broke, go for the hardware decoder.

    With a hardware decoder attached to your PC's DVD-ROM drive, little or none of your machine's CPU is used in the playing of the DVD. Plus, hardware decoders tend to come with S-Video output.

    Yeah your PC monitor might have 'better color and resolution' than a TV, but watching a 15" PC monitor from three feet away is painful compared to watching a 35" Sony Trinitron WAGA from six feet back, sitting on a couch with friends.

    Do that with your Linux PC and DeCSS software decoder.

  • Okay, it's annoying as hell that we need to fight the DeCSS battle in the first place, but there is nothing destructive about it. The movie industry is attempting to take away our rights for their own profit; how is that a pissing contest? We don't think we have the rights to everything, we just want what's ours. The right to reverse engineer for interoperability. The right to fair use of a copyrighted work. If they get their way, you won't be allowed to make compilations of your favorite music cds or backup copies anymore. Maybe someday they really will be selling cars with the hood welded shut, and it would be our own damn fault because we could avoid that if we just stood up and said no.

    People who don't give a shit about their rights being taken away will one day wake up and find themselves in a police state right out of 1984.

  • Just wanted to beat a certain AC out of this one... Just seems funny to me, but moderate me down if ya want. .

    Bye karma

  • Have they switched? They're still using Amazon. Go to the book review section and you'll still see the Amazon slashbox. Perhaps /. is using Fatbrain as well, but Amazon is still there.
  • by gargle ( 97883 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @11:39AM (#1321288) Homepage
    In case you haven't noticed, Slashdot has a partnership with Amazon.com. There's even a nice big Slashbox where you can search for books on Amazon, and if you buy something, Slashdot gets a cut. When money is involved, professed principles get thrown out of the window.


    "The books here are brought to us in Partnership with Amazon.com.
    If you follow the links around here, and eventually buy a book, we get a percentage of the cost!

    Want books about any of these things? Perl, Linux, Unix, Gardening, CGI, Java?

    Still not finding what you're looking for? Visit Amazon.com from this link, and we still get some credit. Or you could even Search Amazon using this convenient form:"
  • Not forgetting the other trick, as used on A Bug's Life.

    Make the first release 4:3 letterbox (even though all players can downmix from 16:9 to 4:3 at play time).

    Then re-release it on 16:9 as a "special edition".

    Throw in an initial VHS-only release, and you get to say "Look here, new release!" three times. Some punters will even buy it twice.

    If I were a shareholder I would demand nothing less.

  • It is a sad reflection on slashdot that the top moderated article in this thread (as I write this) contains the phrase "firm young buttocks" no less than twice and a graphic description of a young girl being bludgeoned with a giant sausage. News for nerds indeed!
  • This is what you miss.

    Unless I was excersizing subtle humor mixed with serious irony.
  • What did I miss, why boycott amazon ?
  • Is it safe to say that most people in here are boycotting Amazon at this point? One-click shopping my ass.
  • I'd say that the Back to the Future trilogy beats out the Indys and SWs... But again, no DVDs...
  • The real reason is called "Fair Game." We (The OSS comunitee) can't be so self centered to deny access to those that we dislike. Like the Linux advocacy-HOWTO says we shouldn't bad mouth Microsoft, that only lessens our side of the argument.

    The moment we start playing silly little games we look very childish and become exactly like the those we oppose.

    The real way to battle anyone is make yourself look better. (The 3 B's Bigger, Badder, Better) thats all anyone cares about.

    Look how embraced XML is by commercial bussiness and it's an open standard. Or GNU for that matter.

    So lets show this world what we are cappable of by continuing the awesome OSS programs/standards. Make these corporate dogs quivering in their boots from compatition!

  • Sorry for OT, but I don't get it:

    Ok, I know ESR, but who the f*ck is Natalie Portman (except being the actress) to deserve this big /. attention?

  • The questions that plague the loyal Slashdotter.

    To buy from Amazon despite their patent stupidity?
    To instead support reel.com, who are paying the LA times to print articles like Jack Valenti's rant's against DeCSS [calendarlive.com] (check out the ads, they appear to have an exclusive).

    Meanwhile I can only purchase videotape, which seems reasonable since the MPAA doesn't want me to spend money on their products if I'm only going to watch them on Linux.

    I think I'll watch what may be the worst Superbowl in history and realize that the real purpose of the Internet is online trading. It would have been nice if the digital Christopher Reeve looked better. I think watching his dad in front of a blue screen looked more realistic...

    Final decision? I don't see a reason to increase the money of reel.com or amazon.com because they're both acting like jerks. If Lucas doesn't want me to watch his film and the MPAA feel the same way they don't need my money either. I think I'll make a trip to the local small science fiction specialty bookstore tomorrow. They deserve my money more than anyone else.

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  • im on a rocky horror picture show cast. i play dr scott. i get naked and petrified every saturday night

  • heh...originality is the art of concealing your sources!
  • >Does Lucas know how to make money or what? Seriously, this guy is starting to make Bill >Gates look like a kid with a cheap lemonade stand.

    Yes, but Lucas is like a father to us. Look at how well he has entertained us, and how long he's been doing it for. Why not reward him for his work? It's only $15. Go to the theatre and you're likely to spend more than that, and you only get to watch it once there.

    Be a good geek now, and get your Star Wars.
  • ...because she played the queen in the movie being discussed.
  • EEk! And i thought lucas was pretty cool for a while...but now no Star Wars DVD?

    I actually think i understand the *real* reasoning for it. If he comes out with the VHS now *everyone's* going to buy it. Then when he comes out with the DVD 5-10 years down the line everyone will have to buy it *again* It's all about the Benjamins...
  • I am not buying any movies by these two billionaires until all the star wars and indiana jones movies are available on DVD. What is the big hold up anyways? They know the fans want it, but they tell us to just eat cake(VHS) all the same. If they think so little of us, why do we keep going back to them waving our hard earned dollars?
  • For those of you who are un-aware of the amazon.com fiasco (neat!), read the below links:

    Yahoo - Amazon.com Receives Patent for 1-Click [yahoo.com]
    CNET.com - News - E-commerce - Amazon sues Barnesandnoble.com over patent [cnet.com]
    Slashdot | Articles | Amazon Sues B&N over Software Patent [slashdot.org]
    The New York Times: News That's Unfit [urielw.com]

    That is probably enough reading to get the general gist of things.

    Ben Brewer
    brewer@nullified.org
  • Yeah.. i'll buy it on vhs the very next time i run out to buy my latest selection of cassette tapes and 8-track..

    Christ.. even dvd as a standard has been surpassed.. PS-DVD (progressive scan DVD) is already out and way better then standard dvd.. and they want me to buy a VHS tape? blah!

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  • by elegant7x ( 142766 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @11:50AM (#1321314)
    slashdot also has a partnership with fatbrain.com, for books. After the whole one-click shoping thing they switched.

    Of course, fatbrain dosn't sell movies, as far as I know...

    Amber Yuan (--ell7)
  • by duplex ( 142954 ) on Sunday January 30, 2000 @01:17PM (#1321316)
    Why is slashdot promoting Lucas Films so extensively may I ask? Are you guys into it for money? Because you didn't really enjoy The Phantom Menace did you?

    Neither is Star Wars series a real scifi classic nor is it of a particular interest to geeks/nerds unless they are younger than twelve years of age. I mean the episodes IV-VI were passable but the latest LucasFilm production has been such a bastardisation of the SF genre that I felt embarrased and conned with it.

    For crying out loud if you have a separate Section for Star Wars instead of a generic Science Fiction one then I demand the following be Slashdot topics too:

    • CUBE [cubethemovie.com]
    • The Matrix
    • PI [pithemovie.com]
    • Alien(s)
    • Blade Runner
    ... and many many others. Why can't we have news on science fiction releases in general instead of ones on this particularly silly series. I'd really enjoy reading on new SF movies/books/authors but instead I need to have a StarWars filter applied (which still doesn't remove the icon btw)... Am I alone?

    Score:-1,Offtopic as there's no other place on /. to say this

  • Personally, I'll wait for the DVD's. Hell, we all waited almost 20 years for the prequel, is everyone saying they can't wait 7 years for Lucas to release an "Extra Super Duper Limited Edition (only 5.2 billion copys made, get 'em while they last)Box Set" thats actually just the same old shit in a fancy new wrapper? Most Star Wars fans (myself included) are addicts: he could put out only the pan & scan version one year and we'd buy it. 2 years later he'd put out the widescreen version and we'd buy it. 5 years later he'd put out the special edition and we'd buy it. He knows the people are going to buy it no matter what. He figures he'll make as much money as possible off it.

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