

Unfinished D&D movie footage Leaked To Net 69
Donsimus writes "French distributor, SND appears to have leaked a 30 second quick time teaser for the D&D movie that was showing in French theaters in front of Gladiator and MI2.
The unfinished footage was not authorized by the producers for net distribution, beacuse it contains unfinished CGI and none of the final sound efects. The original download has been yanked, but Mirrors for the teaser continue to distribute the footage.
A list of mirror locations along with a blow by blow analysis of the teaser can be found at DnDMovie.Com"
Re:I thought the game had died (Score:1)
Re:huh? (Score:3)
<conspiracy_theory>Because when your trailer gets "stolen" and posted all over the network and you file an injunction against the carriers, it becomes "news" and lots of people hear about your forthcoming movie at zero advertising expense to yourself. And lots of people rush out to download and view a trailer that you didn't even have to spend the money to finish.</conspiracy_theory>
If there is any truth to the conspiracy theory, this smacks too much of vaporware operations, so perhaps we should not get too excited about ever seeing the movie released. It would be most interesting to know whether they are looking for more investors.
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Re:D&D translates to movies about as well as to co (Score:2)
And most important of all, buy the endless supply of collectibles that you can get out of the genre:
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Re:I thought the game had died (Score:1)
I lucked out and had a couple of good years with a DM who had a "deep" world model, with lots of "truth is out there" kind of stuff going on in the background. We stumbled across a thread and started following it, and had lots of fun playing Medieval Secret Agent Man instead of Kitchen Blender.
Funny thing, though, was that half or group were slash&bash players of the traditional stripe, and they never had a clue what the other half of us were up to until one of them started sleeping with the DM and he spilled the beans for her. Then they all wanted to try playing PI+Kingmaker with the same lack of subtlety that they had previously played Orc Chopper, and the fun wore off in a hurry. The enemy could spot us from halfway around the planet, and the only time we ever learned anything new anymore was when said player, er, "milked it" out of the DM after hours.
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Move along now.. (Score:1)
Please, ma'am you'd be better off not staring. It's not pretty.
No, ma'am, she'll be coming with us just as soon as she's finished doing that.
Yes ma'am, I know it's offensive; but trust me, it's better to let her finish. The city people will tidy it up. She's a bit past her best, but she keeps on working. Nothing to see here.
OT - Humor (Score:1)
There isn't a single other coder in this dump that'd know a pointer from their asshole. They all come to me for advice, and then want me to translate my C examples into fsck'n VB for them.
(Ok, I thought it was funny...)
--Threed-Looking out for Numero Uno since 1976!
Re:"Unauthorized?" Gimme a break... (Score:1)
I'm preaty sure this wasn't a deliberate leak (unlike what some people are implying). I think its just a case of someone jumping the gun ahead of someone else's wishes... not that we've _ever_ seen that happen before
Re:Veganism is heartless and cruel (Score:1)
Seriously though, I often give vegetables a fighting chance. If I'm making a salad from a salad bar and a piece of lettuce or broccoli jumps out of the tongs, I usually let it go. I appreciate their spunk. ;)
Actually, to be completely serious, there is an extreme of veganism that even I can laugh at: Fruititarianism. They honestly believe that killing any plants is wrong, so they only eat fruit, or basically anything which falls off of trees without killing the parent plant.
Interesting idea, but come on!
Re:Veganism is heartless and cruel (Score:1)
Re:Veganism is heartless and cruel (Score:1)
Now _here's_ a D&D movie (Score:3)
Re:Veganism is heartless and cruel (Score:1)
But, I figured you might be expecting such a jab (in jest) when you chose your username.
Personal aside: I have a dear friend who is a strict Vegan. He is the leader of a statewide PETA group (no details), and I dare say he would never take such a jab so graciously. I think it really betrays his struggle to maintain his position within himself; I think he wavers in his conviction.
By your response, you have evidenced that you are solidly at peace with your conviction.
Re:Veganism is heartless and cruel (Score:1)
Fruiarianism is a logical conclusion. Omnivorism is a logical conclusion. Vegetarianism and veganism are a compromise.
Hamish
Re:Veganism is heartless and cruel (Score:1)
I just don't know that it is a reasonable lifestyle.
I live in the Dairy State and can fairly easily maintain a 100% vegan diet of food which is 90% organically grown.
Is it a compromise? Sure. Does that mean it's not a logical conclusion? I don't think so.
I'm eating in a manner that causes the least amount of harm to plants and animals that I can reasonably maintain.
Would I ever consider fruititarianism? Maybe, but I can't honestly say right now. My progression toward veganism was extremely gradual: I stopped eating all meat when I was 10, slowly cutting out eggs, milk, etc. until I arrived here. It's a compromise that I'm comfortable with.
Re:Veganism is heartless and cruel (Score:1)
Re:Veganism is heartless and cruel (Score:1)
Oh. You're not? I thought you were a fellow Vegan-Bounder (our internal nickname for our true believing brothers). Sorry for the confusion.
At least you're not one of those wackos I ran into the other day. He thought Vegans were people dedicated to the modification of small Chevy passenger cars into SUVs. *Shudder*
BTW, I came up with the "cruelty" speil one day standing in line at a pizza-buffet. The woman before me made a very loud, intense demand for vegetarian pizza on the buffet before she would pay for the meal (of course, there already were 2 trays of vegetarian pizzas available; she was obviously interested in making a scene).
She said, "I am a vegetarian. I believe it is wrong to eat meat..." etc. After a long, tense pause, I walked up to the cashier and, quite spontaneously, said, "I am am carnivore. I believe it is cruel to eat defenseless plants..." etc.
The atmosphere was lightened considerably.
Re:Now _here's_ a D&D movie (Score:1)
QT 4.1? (Score:1)
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Not to go off on a rant, but (Score:2)
Magic the Gathering(tm) is not a successor in anything but devoted fans (addicts), as it is a card game, not a roleplaying game.
(Us purists do make distinctions between these things.)
The real issue is Wizards of the Coast, who make M:tG and who bought out TSR (makers of D&D) early last year. Seattle-based WotC became so profitable from its loyal Magic junkies that it decided to start buying up other companies. The fate of D&D (and the profits dervied therefrom) now rest solely in Wizard's court.
BTW, wasn't there an article about "open source" D&D posted not too long ago?
Re:I thought the game had died (Score:1)
Anyone wonder how this is going to work? (Score:1)
Where's the fun in looking at a screen for 2 hours?
Do I really want to look at someone wave around a magic sword +1 for two hours, or watch some moron in a stupid cape shout "magic missile!" at some goblins? When was the last time you watched other people play D&D?
Re:Anyone wonder how this is going to work? (Score:1)
Man, you've got a point there! Watching some other people play D&D is like watching someone else write code. You just HAVE to point out all the mistakes they're making, and telling them how YOU would do it in their place.
In both cases, it sucks to be the one sitting down listening to someone else's pointers and unasked-for advice.
Re:I thought the game had died (Score:1)
Re:Naming ethics (Score:1)
Sequels (Score:2)
Re:Now _here's_ a D&D movie (Score:1)
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Re:huh? (Score:1)
"They think its sexist"
Re:Veganism is heartless and cruel (Score:1)
Be Seeing You,
Jeffrey 'The Krynoid' Jacobs...
Re:I really do hope it's good. (Score:1)
If they bring in some classic, and do them cool, it could be succesful
example: if ottoluke makes a appearance, and it's done well, the D&D fans will think WOW he kicks ass. And if it is a good scene, the nonD&D'ers won't care who he is, just that it was fun.
This movie might be good as a fantasy flick, but I would bring popcorn and sodas into the theatre, not d10s and character sheets.
hehe, good line.
huh? (Score:1)
"They think its sexist"
Disk drive companies (Score:1)
(A lame attempt at humour from a non-D&D geek) (Score:5)
You invoke a strange scroll labeled 'LEGAL THREAT'.
The Net Community utters some magic words which you have never heard before. Suddenly, you are surrounded by copies of the orb of teaser footage!
Inventory: You have a +2 cloak (being worn) and a strange scroll labeled 'LEGAL THREAT'.
You invoke a strange scroll labeled 'LEGAL THREAT'. One of the orbs dissapears.
You see: 512 copies of the orb of teaser footage, and a +20 Net Community.
Quicktime (Score:1)
-Antipop
Re:Disk drive companies (Score:1)
Yeah, kinda balances out the article about new video compression.
Oh wait, that wasn't about compressing video after all; just about compressing 3-D models. Gee.
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Re:QT 4.1? (Score:1)
Now all I have to do is wait a couple of days for the Slashdot effect to wear off to see it for myself.
Wrong Plot (Score:1)
I'd kill to see a real-life version of the Red-Headed Thief.... (I should be really ashamed of myself, but I don't care!
Wiwi
"I trust in my abilities,
Re:huh? (Score:2)
This is a daily rush of the trailer. The sequences in it don't have the current (final?) CGI fx.
Re:I really do hope it's good. (Score:2)
I don't think it's possible for the movie to be anywhere near what it's like to play a game. What made AD&D so fun was social interaction, watching your own character grow and develop, having something to do one (or more) nights a week, etc.
How can you replicate that in a movie??? You can't!! Most people think D&D is dorky and stupid (not my opinion, just thinking of Joe Q Public) so they're going to avoid a movie with D&D in the title. The D&D fans are going to rush in, watch it, and be disappointed because it didn't give them the same feeling. You're watching someone else's character unfold, not your own.
All they're doing in this movie is just making a fantasy movie. They CAN'T bring D&D to the screen. For this movie to be succesful (Hollywood definition) there has to be lots of exciting action, lots of one-liners, girls with two square inches of leather armor, etc. That is NOT D&D, except maybe for the girls with skimpy leather costumes.
This movie might be good as a fantasy flick, but I would bring popcorn and sodas into the theatre, not d10s and character sheets.
OT: A funny computer graphic rendering video clip (Score:2)
Related to D&D, Mountain Dew, etc. [grin] It is Blink format in EXE.
D&D translates to movies about as well as to comix (Score:1)
And now the D&D movie. Watch the teaser and play "identify the magic item" and "identify the spell". I can't help but imagine what the dialogue will be like:
"Fool! I will smite you with my Frostbrand +3!(tm)"
"Now, you chaotic evil(tm) half-elf(tm) fighter(tm), you will feel the wrath of my Delayed Blast Fireball!(tm)"
And you'd think a movie with a title like Dungeons and Dragons would at least have prominent...um...dungeons? The fractionally visible grade-eight CGI dragon at the end of the teaser doesn't bode well, methinks(tm).
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Naming ethics (Score:1)
Of course, I'll probably see it anyway... Damn them, they were counting on this... -Glump!
Re:Not to go off on a rant, but (Score:1)
Yes. TSR used to throw their lawyers at anybody who ever did anything creative with their rules. Lots of FTP sites that published software tools relating to the D&D stats and/or ideas were shut down.
WotC seems to be a little cooler about that. They are calling the core statistics model behind D&D3 the "d20 System"... You can do anything you want with the core, even sell your own products based on it, you just can't use the D&D trademarks when you do so. They say they were inspired to do this by the success of the open source movement, and it is scoring them huge brownie points with geeks all over the place.
Re:I really do hope it's good. (Score:1)
-Elendale (Open the door... yeah... like that... LIGHTNING BOLT! HAHAHAHAHAHA...)
Karma burn coming
As i meta-troll again
Faster than a speeding injunction... (Score:3)
Its the slashdot effect
[ now choking servers anywhere a DnD movie is rumoured to be posted ]
the AC
Re:Sequels (Score:1)
Re:Audience rolls a 20sided die (Score:1)
sorry, but you missed the html format, and we know people here can't cut & paste
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Re:Anyone wonder how this is going to work? (Score:1)
Re:I thought the game had died (Score:1)
Deo
Re:You can also get the trailer from Movie List. (Score:2)
MPEG Version Available Here! (Score:1)
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Everyone's focusing on the wrong aspect. (Score:2)
First, the reason Dungeons and Dragons: The Movie is the title is because of the name. People know it's a fantasy movie. It carries an immense amount of branding as well, for good or bad.
From reading comments here, it seems people are thinking this is going to be some sort of view of a RPG-session. It's not. It is a movie done somewhat close to the rules/spells/etc. of DnD.
One of the biggest flaws in other fantasy movies (besides the lack of actors and actresses who could, well, *ACT*) was the lack of any real idea what the boundaries of magic are. By basing it on DnD, Corey ("the man" behind the movie) has given *SOMETHING* to the magic system besides "well, he can do magic!"
We aren't going to be watching someone DM any more than X-Men was watching someone GM in the Marvel Universe (I've got the Marvel RPG).
Give it a shot. It's just a movie, after all, and hey, it may be quite cool.
Dr. Elf? (Score:1)
Should be even better than John Cleese as Robin Hood in Time Bandits!
"Unauthorized?" Gimme a break... (Score:3)
It does look pretty cool, though. One hopes that they've learned lessons from some of the recent big-budget deritative flops and actually cast decent actors.
Linkage (Score:1)
This is not entirely hypothetical; there is already precedent in which people have been sued for links: DeCSS. Even sites containing lists of mirrors (that would be a link to a link) were given cease-and-desist notices IIRC. Now what happens to index sites such as Yahoo? The MP/RIAA will sue anyone small enough to be unable to fight back. So Yahoo is safe. What happens to the Open Directory servers that are used by Google, among others? The policy of making linkage illegal will destroy the Net as we know it.
I predict that if these sites are not taken down yet, they will be shortly. And don't be surprised about it either. This will continue to happen as long as the RI/MPAA feels they can get away with it. In other words, until we raise hell.
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Re:Dr. Elf? (Score:1)
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D&D Trailers? (Score:1)
Re:QT 4.1? (Score:1)
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Since you asked... (Score:2)
About once a month, when Kenzer & Co.'s Knights of the Dinner Table [kenzerco.com] comes out.
If you want a cool sample, check out the animated shorts based on KODT [hoodyhoo.com]. (Warning: requires recent Flash plug-in.)
Jay (=
Veganism is heartless and cruel (Score:5)
It's disgusting. Don't you know SALAD IS MURDER!
Those defenseless plants have no chance to fight back against free-pod agressors -- they're rooted in the ground, for Darwin's sake!
Plants evolved to their current state in a more innocent, harmonious environment -- before the need for self-protection and defensive capabilities (such as being able to run away).
You...ambulatorist!
I, my wayward friend, am a carnivore. I eat meat. That's it. Only those beings which have the potential to defend themselves. Survival of the fittest, yes, but give them a chance!
Any more mirrors? (Score:1)
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
That kicks ASS!!!!! (Score:1)
Re:I thought the game had died (Score:1)
Actually, if you want a really funny take on that, go here [theonion.com]
Re:Wrong Plot (Score:1)
Audience rolls a 20sided die (Score:1)
Re:I thought the game had died (Score:5)
and a plethora of trolls who wouldn't know tried and tested knowledge if it bit them on the butt.
(But hey, I'm bored...)
I have to say that I'd honestly thought that Dungeons & Dragons had gone the way of the dodo many years ago.
That's why there's not one [interplay.com] but two [interplay.com] computer games based on the game system, with more [interplay.com] to come [neverwinternights.com]?
When was the last time that anyone heard anything about D&D or its equally dubious successor, Magic the Gathering?
Well, Wizards of the Coast will be releasing the 3rd edition [wizards.com] for Dungeons and Dragons in about 2 weeks, so expect to hear more about it. As for Magic the Gathering, [wizards.com] well, they show the tournaments on EPSN2 of all places.
I had thought that roleplaying was an eighties fad whose time was thankfully past,
Not bloody likely.
Now the cycle of fantasy starts again, as this is sure to turn more youngsters from wholesome persuits to playing a game which teachings that violence and dark arts are tools for success, and that the acquisition of wealth makes you a better person.
God would I have loved to have been the first to post with the NFL crack, but there was a good point -- there are far more "socially acceptable" hobbies and interests which teach some rather poor morals.
In fact, Tracy (Dragonlance trilogy co-author) Hickamn wrote an excellent essay on morality and role-playing [trhickman.com] that I show to people whenever this topic comes up.
I'm with BADD on this one - these games teach dangerous morals to the people that are most vulnerable.
It's funny you should mention BADD -- Michael Stackpole (genre author and part of the Industry Watch segment of GAMA, [gama.org] the gaming industry's trade association) compiled The Pulling Report [cybercomm.net] which investigates the claims of Pat Pulling (the founder of BADD) and rather expertly debunks her allegations and attacks her credibility as a "cult crime investigator".
For more on GAMA's point of view, check out their Q&A about role-playing games [rpg.net], with the rather interesting factoid:
"One of the more persistent claims is that role-playing games has caused teens to commit suicide. The Center for Disease Control conducted an extensive study of teen suicide and found no evidence to link role-playing games with suicide. Investigations by the Association of Gifted and Creative Children (Dublin, CA), the Albert Einstein College of Medicine (the Bronx, NY), and the American Association of Suicidology (Denver, CO) have likewise found no evidence that games encourage suicide.
Moreover, researchers point out that the most heavily weighted factor in determining a child's suicide potential is whether or not he is a loner. Participation in a group activity of any sort sharply reduces that potential. It also provides a circle of friends who can pick up on any unusual behavior and encourage their friend to get help when there is a crisis."
Jay (=
Re:I thought the game had died (Score:3)
When did we switch topics to the NFL?
I really do hope it's good. (Score:3)
I really do hope this movie is good. The shots from the trailer do look like they have at least halfway decent production values; and the shots that looked completed, really did look pretty good. (It's amazing what a few million dollars will do these days.)
That said, the thing I fear most about this movie is that it will upset the legions of D&D fans in the world. Not that it will suck; but rather that it seems nearly impossible to capture the "feel" of D&D in anything except actually playing the game! Even Baldur's Gate, fantastic as it was, did not feel exactly the same as sitting with friends, delving into a dungeon. This is not to say that it's a "bad" thing that it isn't exactly the same; just that a lot of people are going to be expecting the same feelings they'd get from playing the game, and won't, and will be disappointed or even angry.
I also hope this movie succeeds, to show that the fantasy genre really is viable for movies. If both this and the Lord of the Rings trilogy succeed, I think we'll see a huge resurgence in fantasy film (which of course will also bring the countless bad copies), and I know I'm all for that.
Not dead, just smells that way. (Score:1)
People I know like computers, comics, anime, and gaming. All topics (to some extent) covered on
While this is technically a movie topic post, maybe it's a sign of things to come.
You can also get the trailer from Movie List. (Score:2)