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Star Wars Episode 2 Title Leaked 187

N8Magic writes "Seems that the title for the new Star Wars flick has been leaked according to a newspaper in Australia. "Episode 2: The Rise of the Empire" is supposedly the working title for the film. " LucasFilm has denied the title as well.
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  • "The Fall of the Jedi" would work.... would parrallel with RotJ the same as TRotE parrallells with TESB...

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  • If disemboweling Jar Jar on camera will get Episode II an R rating, then I say go for it.

    I'll even settle for a nice, clean decapitation.

  • This troll never gives up does he...

    Wait till the sun comes out... Or Gandalf arrives.
  • They should call it Star Wars: Episode 2 -
    Dear lord, we are sooooo sorry about Jar Jar. It was Bill's idea, and he has been promptly sacked... Thank you




    "Blue Elf shot the food!"
  • by inetd ( 21373 )
    Episode 2: Lucas Is getting Fatter.
  • It was a fake [theforce.net]. Check out the FAQs and shot by shot description. This guy did an amazing job.
  • "Sweet Jar Jar, I shall avenge your death!"

    "Mesa not dead!"

    "Very well, then, I shall avenge your mortal wounding!"

    "Actually, mesa tinkin mesa gonna pull thru!"

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  • ...a victim of a disgruntled die hard Star Wars fan who's sick of seeing the "child" element in Star Wars films

    The Star Wars movies have always been for children, that's who they were written for. With the exception of episode 5, none of them can really be considered serious movies (somehow using 'adult' movies as the opposite of child movies just doesn't seem right, which is kind of sad). That being said, they're fun, and I like them, but I'm not expecting a Francis Ford Coppola movie when I watch them.

  • It was a reference to Anakin Skywalker. A Menace that no one could foresee....
  • [SARCASM]Perhaps you are right. I shall now keep another window open to the main thread as I'm typing my comment. I will refresh it every second and check for newer comments that my superscede the need for mine. How could I have been so dumb?[/SARCASM]
  • Finaly!

    Sanity

    Clarity

    On Slashdot, about StarWars. Brain... exploding..

  • (laughing)

    I suppose you are right =-)

    It gets easier to say that everything old is better, and that all we have now is crap. Makes me sound like some sort of crotchety old timer...

    "Back in _MY_ day, we hand rendered CGI sequences on paralell-processor SGI farms. You kids with your holographic nonsense these days are all flash and no substance...." (puckered mouth and scratchy voice)

    LOL
  • Star Wars Episode II: The Castration of Jar-Jar Binks
    Star Wars Episode II: Asses of Ire ("..you're a jedi fucker, yes it's true, nobody fucks jedis quite like you!..")
    Star Wars Episode II: Anakin Gets A Spanking
    Star Wars Episode II: Amidala's Innocence Lost
    Star Wars Episode II: More Over-Hyped SW Shit
    Star Wars Episode II: The Wrath of Hamill

  • It's neat to know what the working title of it is, but it's no more likely to come out with this title than the G4 was likely to come out with the name PDQ. It's a workign title so they can talk about it amongst themselves without confusion, but I highly doubt that this is going to be even close to the end choice.
  • by Bantha Fodder ( 66573 ) on Thursday August 17, 2000 @10:28AM (#847437)

    theforce.net [theforce.net] is currently dispelling the rumor. Apparently, they actually talked to Lucasfilm.

    From their web site:

    We just got off the phone with Jeanne Cole from Lucasfilm. As many of you know, many places are reporting that the title to Episode II is "Rise of the Empire". All of this originated from a report from an Australian newspaper that credited "inside sources".

    When we talked to Jeanne, she had actually just become aware of the report. She says they are calling it what everyone else is calling it - Episode II. She said, "At this point it is still Star Wars - Episode II."

  • Ah yes, but don't forget that this is a *leak* and therefor there is a chance it's not true. Remember how they set the title of SW:VI to "revenge of the jedi" for a while, and then at the last minute changed it to ROTJ? This could be what could happen here... maybe Lucas want's to be a bit more secretive this time and leak a fake (and may I say obvious) title while the title that will be released might be quite different.
  • When "Rise of the Empire" first rumored to be the title of episode 2 back in June of 1997. The whole rumor also said the episode 1 would be called "Balance of the Force" and episode 3 would be called "Fall of the Jedi". Click for more information about this rumor. [corona.bc.ca]
  • Might as well call it Star Wars Episode 2: The Falling of Lucas Empire!
  • Don't forget that there was a complete hoax name for Jedi. I can't remember what it was, but I recall that there were hats and jackets made to fool the press...

    sulli

  • "Pathetic race"?

    Okay, Jar-Jar I undertstand, but the great Gungan Race has Boss Nass in charge. How can you possibly come down on a character played by an actor with such flexibility and versatility as Brian Blessed?
  • SpaceBalls 2 - Rise of the Umpire

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    Eric is chisled like a Greek Godess

  • For once, a Natalie Portman comment on Slashdot is not off-topic... just. Still, of course Ms. Portman's going to be in it. Hasn't that been confirmed for some time?

    -TBHiX- wanted: one bomb shelter to hide in when Slashdot airs the article "Ask Natalie Portman". (shudder)

  • hahahahahahaha

    If I had points and didnt post in this thread i would give you all 5 of them if possible.
  • by MouseR ( 3264 )
    Let me reiterate my thoughts on Jar Jar...

    This "brainless" creature is, against all odds, aware of The Force. No kidding. The ride through the Plaaaanet Cooore proves it:

    Dont worry, the force will guide us. says Qui Gon.
    Ah! Itsy bit the Force! replies jar Jar.

    Also, Jar Jar says he was banished from his city because he was clumbsy ("Er.. youssa might be sayin' that" he replies to Obi One's question).

    This leads me to what I beleive is the true nature of Jar Jar's stupendous luck during the battle droids fight (where he keeps on shooting other droids with the one caught in his foot).

    Hold on to yourself, the truth may be ugly...

    There isn't only the Good and Evil side of the force ...

    There is also the

    Stupid Force!

    I know it's shocking, but it's the only true answer to the whole mistery of the force requiring ballance.

    Anaking is so strong in the Evil side (and so is Palpatine) that only the Stupid side can counter-effect Palpatine's plan and lead him into the fatal decision of asking Luke to replace Vador. This really stupid move utterly pissed Vador which led to Palpatine's demise.

    I bet what will kill Jar jar in episode 2 (I hope) if not episode 3 (as a last resort) will be when Jar jar tells Parpatine:

    I know thessa stupid in you!
  • I never believe a rumour until I begin hearing a counter-rumour anyway. Like the last time there were rumours of a re-org at work, I didn't believe them until someone started rumours that there wouldn't be a re-org. That's when I knew a re-org was inevitable and sure enough it came through the week after.
  • Any body remember Blue Harvest?

    Okay, this isn't exactly the same issue. But working titles are meaningless. They are just a reference so everyone knows what project your are talking about. This one happens to describe what is going to happen in this episode. By far it is better than The Phantom Menace which sounds more like some bad 1940's black and white serial.

    Here's an interesting comparison though.
    A New Hope - The Phantom Menace
    Empire Strikes Back - The Rise of the Empire
    Return of the Jedi - ?? The Last Jedi ?? Jedi Dispersed ?? No More Jedi ?? Jedi Go Bye-Bye

    I don't claim to be the best title writer but you can see the comparison of titles and the possible direction for the Third Title.

    At the end of the day, though, no matter what they call it, even knowing the title years in advance, has no real effect on whether I'll see the movie or not. Call it Star Wars:That Space Fantasy Movie and I'll see it. It is the Star Wars part that is important.

  • "Sweet Jar Jar, I shall avenge your death!"

    :)

    (Slightly on topic)

    Well, why they heck not, Mel Brooks did a pretty decent send up with "Spaceballs", why not combine Python and E1...

    Megapode 1: The Python Menace

    nah, yer right, it's too obscure...

    Vote [dragonswest.com] Naked 2000
  • by niekze ( 96793 )
    wouldn't it be a better title if it was "Episode Two: The Rise of the Merchandising Empire"
  • It certainly sounds more Star Warsy than the Scooby Doo-like "The Phantom Menace". Until this is confirmed, though, I'll continue calling it "The Menace Strikes Back".
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  • Star Wars, Episode II - The Sith Lord Who Shagged Me.
  • Star Wars II: The Return of Jar Jar
  • I think you know what I mean. :)
  • by ^_^x ( 178540 )
    Of all the things to be leaked, this seems the least significant thing possible. I hope Lucas doesn't take it out of control and end up pulling an Apple on whoever did it.
  • Oh, for the love of god... as if there weren't already enough Natlie Portman trolls around these parts, you have to go and bait them like this?
  • C'mon do you thing George would choose such an obvious title? Why not call Episode I, "We are introduced to Anakin..."
  • Hope they change it. Far too many of the non-film parts of the SW franchise have had something of the something.
  • I dunno, from what I have read of prescripts and information about ep4 In 4 the emipre is just fininishing up cleaning up the senate (leia being the last). If annie is supposed to downfall in 3, why would the empire rise allready? Yeah i can see a shadowed rise in the backround and covering it upwith the clone wars ( somebody else other then the trade federation picking a fight with the rebuplic), but I don't see a big sign from the empire saying WE ARE HERE WE HAVE ROSE WE WILL DESTROY YOU yet.
  • Just so you know... The first movie is called Star Wars: A New Hope. Not just Star Wars.
  • Let's not start critizing the non-title ... It's not the official title, it's probably something the clueless reporter who wrote the article read on the internet. The title, is not new, it's been bounced around since last year !
  • wouldn't it be a better title if it was "Episode Two: The Rise of the Merchandising Empire"

    Or "Episode 2: The Fall of Jar-Jar Binks and his Pathetic Race"

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  • If you follow any of the Hollywood rags, you'll see most films go through about 4 or 5 working titles before they even get to the cutting room floor.

  • Someone has already reserved the domain name [theriseoftheempire.com]
  • Sorry about the magled link. Here's the site I was talking about, http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/sw1C.html
  • Yeah, that would really go along the lines of the other, mysterious Star Wars movie titles. I mean, The Empire Strikes Back, I wondered what that movie was going to be about for all of five minutes. And Return of the Jedi. Such mystique. Though, I agree that Balance of the Force would be a good title. But, so is what's being proposed (even if just a rumor). All Star Wars movie titles aim to condense the theme of the movie in no uncertain terms. The old movies did, I don't see why these should do differently just because we're now older and more jaded.
  • It is interesting that he's working (if tentatively) the title "Empire" into this one, when he also used it in the second of the old set (Episode V). Since most of the anti-Phantom crowd are also pro-Empire, and most people worth their moviegoing salt acknowledge Empire as the only one with any real depth (of character, plot, and even meaning as it explores the issues of man becoming machine), perhaps this is a subtle ploy to regain some of his fans who were so irritated at Jar Jar.

    Granted I don't really think that. I think this one should be called "Episode 2: Buy More Yoda Dolls".

  • Yes, I can.

    Apparently Episode three is going to include multiple bondage scenes, Anakin actually turns to Black leather before the dark side.

    The working title for Darth's costume is apparently "The Gimp suit".

    Or maybe not.

  • I've even seen full posters for that one. (IIRC it wasn't really a hoax, but an attempt at misinformation that someone didn't realize. A local comic shop here used to have bumper stickers for it, of all things...)
    As for episode II, I really doubt that'd be the title. After all, that's what I predicted a while ago, and we all know that GL doesn't do what we expect with any of the SW stuff...


  • More info is here [corona.bc.ca].

    The one above is screwy. But then again you can probably just fix the URL.

  • Revenge of the Jedi
  • Now, perhaps other titles could be determined by looking at domain registrations that were done about the same time by the same person. (An exercise left to the reader).

    Seriously though, if I was working for Lucas I would have made up a couple of hundred 'likely' sounding names and reserved all the domain names. Come on, considering what a single movie costs, squatting over a pile of namespace is nothing.

  • On the old SW Trilogy videos, GL did a three-part interview with Leonard Maltin in which GL explained his concept of a trilogy. He says something to the effect of, "In the first part you introduce the characters. In the second you get them into the deepest, darkest hole that you can possibly imagine. And in the third part, you get them out of it." That is generally the pattern to trilogies (HHGTTG excepted, of course), so why would Episodes I-III be different than IV-VI?

    Averye0
  • 'Eaters of the Dead' was the original title of the book written by Michael Chrichton. It is an especially terrible attempt to plagiarize Beowulf, and his worst book by far. That and the title sucks.
  • I think Lucas has operations running on keeping things secret. Some of the lies that get told on the internet are sometimes bullshit posts and hoaxes, but who from?.... I think Lucasfilms actually leakes "test" info. You can get a candid re-action from your core audience (geeks) by leaking something on to the internet.

  • > I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't really care what on earth they call it...

    Not the only one, but definetly in the minority.

    Hey, no problem, just don't watch episodes II and III. That means less time for the rest of us to wait in line ! :)
  • A few people have probably already seen this Episode 2 Trailer?? [theforce.net] Sorry it's quicktime for those people on linux...i'm at work on crap winnt boxen ...Is it fake or not??..i have no idea
  • Somewhat true, however, the child appealing element has not really been that heavily emphasized except in later movies (i.e TPM and ROTJ). I thought ROTJ was bad with the ewoks, but Jar-jar and the gungans were just way over the top.

    Other than these two movies there are really no characters with the "kiddie" (for lack of a better term) appeal. R2D2 and C3PO in ESB and Star Wars might be a possible choice. But they are not so outlandishly targeted to the younger folks in the audience as groups of characters in the last two, and Phantom Menace especially.

    My final exception to your post revolves around the Star Wars movies being for children. I disagree. The flow of the Star Wars movie is taken almost verbatim from Joeseph Cambell's lectures/notes/books? (I heard it on an audio book kinda thing) on how to write an epic tale. This is why Star Wars is so successful, it spans generations. Empire Strikes Back, again has epic tale stuff, and spans generations. Return of the Jedi, still pretty good because it keeps along these lines. Phantom Menace, still has some epic stuff when you look at the overall work of films, but there is an awful lot of emphasis on making it a "fun", bring the whole family kinda movie IMO.

    My feelings are mixed, it was an O.k. movie. Perhaps in the grand scheme of things it will fit nicely, but right now, I think it was well below the quality of movie that George Lucas can put out. As a result, I'm looking forward to episode's II and III because with the turn in the story line, I think he can focus less (or at least give me more to focus on so I can focus less) on the cuddly cute characters and more on a really good story.

  • For those of you who remember, Episode VI had a multitude of titles. Lucas went so far as to have posters printed with the title "Revenge of the Jedi". Needless to say, he managed to keep his secret until its release in theaters. The official line about why the title was "Return of the Jedi" rather than Revenge: A Jedi would never seek revenge.
  • ...and it's always a relief when the 300 lb. guy next to you, alread sweating, isn't inside a hot Wookie suit for opening night.
  • "...she's got _huge_... tracts of land!"

    "But I don't want any of that, Father. The girl I marry will have a certain... special..."

    "HOLD ON! HOLD ON! No Singing!"

    heh, rather watch that one again than sit through another hour and 40 of "Jar Jar does Amidala in front of Anakin."

  • Heh. The rule is: "whatever comment you're planning to make, some other slashdotter has already made it".

    Don't bother posting unless a) it's an opinion and you're reasonably sure it's not sufficiently similar to the opinions of other slashdotters, or b) it's a fact that is linked to other websites containing useful and potentially new information.

    Duh.

  • How can the 3rd one end up with the good guys winning? The closest you can come is princess leia getting the plans to the Death Star, and escaping...err, wait, she didnt make it!
  • Or: Marketing Ploy to Get You to See Episode 1: Special Edition

    Maybe they'll digitally add a dancing paperclip to various scenes, since in retrospect, Jar Jar wasn't quite annoying enough...

  • Take it from Juliet, what's in a name? a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
    Or, as Mark Fabi put it in Wyrm, a rose by any other name would still smell like the sex organ of a thorny shrub.
    Sorry, had to get that off my chest ... ;)
    Anyway, I agree with you. The title won't affect the quality of the movie... it's kind of like judging a good fantasy booka s bad just because the cover artist has a thing for scantily clad women.
    -J
  • IIRC Star Wars: ANH's working title was 'Star Killer'.. Episode 2 will be even more cloaked in secrecy than Episode 1 was.. but Episode 3 will be the end all of lines. People will take months off from work just to camp out, because it is the 'last' star wars film. Unless Lucas decides to scrap it all instead for a Howard the Duck sequel *shudder*.

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  • Everyone knows that this was just a hoax: the real working title is Return to Burning Man [burningman.com]: Jar Jar Must Fry.

    Naturally, George is keeping that title under wraps, because it would give away one of the subplots, in which Jar Jar is burned inside a large wicker man built in a temporary city located in a desert.

    All the secrets will be revealed at the Alter of the Mystical Frog of the Playa, but only during the ceremonies held at A.R.F.

    If you're not Of The Frog, it's just not your day ...

  • Senator Palpatine at his most evil: he clones Jar Jar by the thousands!

    His own people, deeply ashamed by the proliferation of this most pathetic example of their species, feel obligated to fix it.

    The latter hour of the movie consists entirely of thousands of Jar Jars being launched out of the catapults they used in the Episode I, some with explosives, some against cliff walls, others into spiked pits. Every last Jar Jar gets catapulted to a gory death, rendered in exquisite detail with the latest CGI techniques.

    This "leak" is just a clever ploy to make sure that the real plot of Episode II is not over-hyped to the point that it is disappointing as many found Episode I.

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    Despite rumors to the contrary, I am not a turnip.
  • Um... no...

    Remember, Lucasfilm is actually disseminating *dis*information about the prequels to keep all the online sources off the trail. I'll be willing to be that this title isn't even close to the one that will be released. (Anyone remember "Balance of the Force" that was absolutely going to be the title for Episode 1.) Anyone remember the Darth Bane/Christopher Walken rumor? Gary Coleman playing Yoda? (OK, so I made that one up... so sue me... oh, wait, if I ended up with Judge Kaplan I'd probably lose... so don't sue me!)

    What will be a sure bet is that whatever title is picked will have never been guessed before. Personally, I'm going for "The Prequel Formerly Known as Star Wars Episode II"...
  • Maybe Episode Three will be 'Return of the Sith'

  • I mean, that why

    1) I loved Revenge of the Jedi
    2) Kenneth Branagh was great as Obi Wan in the last movie
    3) It was great to see Harrison Ford playing Han Solo's father in the last movie
    4) Charleton Heston's cameo was fun too
  • How about Star Wars Episode 2: An Alan Smithee Film?

  • How final is that name?

    Just remember Return of the Jedi was once named Revenge of the Jedi. Even some trailers were made using that vengeful name.

  • According to the at [theforce.net]theForce.net [theforce.net].
  • by Ketzer ( 207882 ) on Thursday August 17, 2000 @10:43AM (#847516)
    This just in, according to the webpage at www.starwars.com, the title for Episode 2 will be:
    1 4m 133t h4X0r, 1 0wn j00 1uc45!

    George Lucas was available for comment on the leak, saying:
    "You are all morons."
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    But seriously, who really cares? What difference does it make?
    Take it from Juliet, what's in a name? a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
  • Just cut to the chase, George...

    .
  • by Money__ ( 87045 ) on Thursday August 17, 2000 @10:53AM (#847520)
    Star Wars Episode 2: The Rise of Jar Jar Binks.
    Synopsis: From the producers of "Cyder House Rules" and "Fried Green Tomatoes", this feel good romantic comedy tracks the trials and tribulations of the young Jar Jar in a tender coming of age story. Winona Rider and jar jar spend fall in new york frolicing in the autum leaves and finding the kind of deep, passionate love that most aliens can only dream of.
    Nooooooooo!
  • FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!

    You are the EIGHTEENTH PERSON who mentioned that!!

    Read before you post!!
  • Star Wars Ep 3: Howard the Duck

    Howard the Duck teams up with Jar Jar binks...
    Paramount is rummored to have liccensed the rights of the carricer Wessly Crusher to this movie...

    In an interview Lucas said "Well I did say 3 would be a major disapointment"....
  • According to the IMDB [imdb.com], it was not really a last minute decision to change the name:

    The title "Revenge of the Jedi" was leaked early in production, so that pirated merchandise could be easily spotted when the film was released. The official reason for the change was that "...a Jedi would not take revenge". Some authentic pre-release movie posters actually had "Revenge", and are worth a lot of money today.

  • by The Dev ( 19322 ) on Thursday August 17, 2000 @11:01AM (#847552)
    is unimportant.

    But for the love of God, make this one Rated 'R'!
  • by Christianfreak ( 100697 ) on Thursday August 17, 2000 @10:22AM (#847556) Homepage Journal
    I suppose the title could be "Rise of the Empire" but what about the Clone Wars? There's been rumors for months that the next Episode show us what happened there... besides why would Lucas even need to make a the third one if the Empire is going to show up now? I'll believe it when I see it.

    Never knock on Death's door:

  • just read over on aint-it-cool-news (yeah yeah, i know) - but they are dispelling the rumor and have backed it up by calling Lucas publicity.
  • I dunno. But after 23+ years of living with Star Wars, you'd think Lucas could come up with something a little less obvious and a little more inspiring.

    Me, I thought "Balance of the Force" was a great title but, no, that got nixed ...

  • by Ketzer ( 207882 ) on Thursday August 17, 2000 @10:47AM (#847571)
    That isn't actually a denial of the title "Rise of the Empire"

    She just says they are calling it Episode II.

    Well I never called Episode I the "Phantom Menace"
    I thought that was a stupid name, and like almost everyone else I know, I called it "Episode 1." So the fact that she says they call it Episode 2 doesn't mean it's not titled "Rise of the Empire"
  • Some of you may remember one of the rumors going around prior the release of Episode VI: a lot of us really thought that VI would be called Revenge of the Jedi. Don't know if this was leaked by Lucas or not, but I don't remember him deneying it. Always remember, GL has his own agenda.


    Gonzo
  • Natalie Portman in parachute pants, hell yeah.
  • Lucas has had a 'roadmap' of the entire 9-episode Star Wars series in his head since the first one. I recall an interview with him on the occasion of the third movie (sorry, not enough of a fan to recall the title), which was to be number 6 in the timeline of the series. He talked then about his plans to next do the first 3, then the final 3, saying he might use the original cast, "if they're old enough". So it wouldn't surprise me to find out that he's had the titles worked out all along. Now, perhaps other titles could be determined by looking at domain registrations that were done about the same time by the same person. (An exercise left to the reader).
  • I think people forget just how hokey the original three were.

    Episode I was just following in the footsteps of the original trilogy. Did anyone else notice when Obi-Wan whacks a robot with his lightsabre, and it falls over? That's classic Star Wars cheese, right up there with "Two figh-ters a-gainst a Star De-stroyer?" ("Worst delivery ever.") and the Hallowe'en masks in the Mos Eisley cantina.

    100% pure American processed cheese.

    Star Wars is like Shakespeare: everyone loves it, and nobody wants to admit what derivative tripe it is.

    It is fun, though. Kind of like Futurama, with a straight face. And the "used universe" set building philosophy is something that modern sci-fi could use a refresher-course in.

    I've drifted, but my point was, try not to compare your fresh vision of the new Star Wars films with your nostalgia-fogged vision of the old ones, nothing can live up to that.

    ---
    Despite rumors to the contrary, I am not a turnip.
  • by ackthpt ( 218170 ) on Thursday August 17, 2000 @11:05AM (#847581) Homepage Journal
    Two things:

    Episode 2: Duh, of course. You were expecting Episode 1.01 Rev A?

    The Rise of the Empire Duh, again.

    You were maybe expecting:

    The Empire That Sank Into The Swamp. So, They Built A Second One. That Sank Into The Swamp. So They Built A Third One. That Burned Down, Fell Over, Then Sank Into The Swamp. But The Fourth One Stayed Up. An' That's What Your Gonna Get, Palpatine -- The Strongest Empire In The Universe.

    I dunno.. I kinda think it's been done before. Also, it'll be a bitch to get on the marquee.

    Vote [dragonswest.com] Naked 2000
  • After all, Anakin will eventually have to, uhm... do the Queen, so...

    *SMACK* Okay, I deserved that...


  • The title, "Rise of the Empire" has been around for over a year, according to TheForce.Net [theforce.net]. They point out two older articles discussing it: [1 [theforce.net]] , [2 [theforce.net]]
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  • I think this is probably NOT the real title, but it is pretty close.

    Look for this film to be dark - Lucas said years ago, when he was announcing that work was to begin on the prequels, that he intends the 1st to be kind of light harted and ending up-beat (TPM was just that, as was A New Hope). The second would be dark and end sort of down, just like Empire Strikes Back was. And then, in the 3rd, the good would win out and have a major victory.

    Look for the empire to grow in episode 2, and for Anakin to fall to the dark side. Thus, the title makes sense, even if it isn't the absolute final title.
  • I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't really care what on earth they call it...

    After the last travesty against star wars fans, what makes you think the next one will be even less of an over-commercialized fub. It doesn't how matter how much we all want another epic like the original 3, the stuff he's going to be making is _not_ it...

    This is not flamebait, but a genuine criticism.

  • Why didn't they just call it:

    Star Wars Episode 2: Aidan Skywalker Becomes More Evil And Shags Princess Amidala Rotten

    "Phantom Menace" had at least a semi-cool mysterious ring to it.

  • by dmccarty ( 152630 ) on Thursday August 17, 2000 @10:25AM (#847592)
    I had thought the name was going to be Episode 2: The Rise of Jar Jar Binks.
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  • In case you missed it in the theatres, go to theforce.net [theforce.net] and see the episode II trailer! But if you do, make sure you also go to the FAQ [theforce.net]...

    - Michael Cohn
  • The fake title (not the "Revenge" stuff to fake out merch pirates) was "Blue Harvest". "Horror beyond your wildest dreams" or something like that was the fake tagline for it. No one really bought it, anyway.
  • 1) A working title is not necessary the final title at all. It's just something the movie people use to give some kind of reference to the movie. This way they don't have to keep saying "that lucas film with the spaceships and that slug guy and the fuzzy little bears" all the time. They could call it "Fred" if they wanted. It's just to make their lives a little easier.

    2) "Rise of The Empire" is no worse a title than "The Empire Strikes Back" or "Return of the Jedi"

  • These rumors aren't new at all. In fact, they surfaced repeatedly a long, long time ago. (reported on The Force.net May 6, 1999 here [theforce.net] and August 8, 1999 here [theforce.net]...)
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  • They named the spaceballs sequal in the first movie... "The Search For More Money"... remember?

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