LOTR Internet-Only Trailer 102
fjordboy writes: "The Lord of the Rings.net official movie site has an Internet-only teaser available tonight on their Web site and on their Real Channel. Go to the Web site to see the film, (or you can go to see the movie Thirteen Days in theaters to view the first theatrical release of the LOTR teaser)." If you're still awake in California (or in sympathy) and have power, guess you have first dibs.
Re:The LoTR - Deviating from fantasy, becoming fac (Score:1)
California (Score:5)
>get up
It is 6:10 am. You have turned off your alarm.
>take shower
Halfway through your shower, Block B [scebiz.com] of Edison's interruptible load is taken offline.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
>grab towel
You are in the shower, holding a somewhat wet towel. The shower is no longer hot but is still warm. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
>turn off shower
You are in the shower, holding a somewhat wet towel. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
>dry off
You dry off as quickly as you can using the wet towel.
As soon as you finish, you are eaten by a group of racketeers of underregulated electricity.
Re:Here's the changes from the book (a little spoi (Score:1)
I really look forward to seeing how they render the Balrog...
not to be pedantic... (Score:1)
Gimli looks passable, as he looks very broad, but the hobbits didn't look at all short enough to be "halflings".
The music... (Score:1)
Bingo! (Score:1)
Re:Notes on the trailer (Score:2)
Tolkien is much more challenging to read, and when I picked up the Ring trilogy to read about 2 years ago, it took me a good 3 weeks of before-bed reading to finish one book out of it.
(And on a curiosity note, I find it ironic that several fantasy series all are based on "boy meets strange people, discovers he's got special/magical powers, goes on to save the world" type of ideas, including the Ring triology, Edding's series, Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series, as well as the Sword of Shanadara (sp) series -- add to it Harry Potter, as well as Ender's Game -- I wonder why it always seems to come back to this theme, and nearly always from the POV of the 'boy' in question.
Re:Notes on the trailer (Score:2)
Go to the Rinkworks (www.rinkworks.com) site, and look for the Bad Bad Bad Movie review page, and find the animated LotR movie entry (this is NOT the one done by Rankin/Bass who also did the Hobbit as a movie). I can't remember when the above movie came out (I think early 70s), but it was advertizes as the whole The Lord of the Rings. When people saw it, they found out it was only part 1 of 2 that they got; thankfully, based on the quality that the comments include above, part 2 was never made.
Re:Women (Score:2)
Not sure whether I want to see it. (Score:1)
I think I might just get the books out and re-read them.
Re:Also... (Score:1)
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Aaron Gaudio
"The fool finds ignorance all around him.
Re:Notes on the trailer (Score:2)
in quicktime for a limited time. (Score:2)
Re:+5 Free Karma! - I'll take it. (Score:2)
Re:wow (Score:2)
I can't wait to see a lot of upcoming good movies this year, after a crappy 2000. HANNIBAL, PEARL HARBOR, HARRY POTTER AND THE SORCERER'S STONE, MONSTERS, INC., FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING, A.I. and several other really good movies arriving this year bodes well for movie theater owners in 2001.
Re:I hope they don't mangle the story. (Score:2)
The reason is simple: PJ darn well knows that the movie(s) will literally be nitpicked to death. He has to stick to the book pretty closely for accuracy reasons or Tolkien fans will read the riot act to him on the scale of an Orc invasion.
Re:wow (Score:2)
The other reason is that traffic and parking around that theater is horrible, especially in evening hours. I'd rather go to the Century 25 in Union Landing and Century 20 at Great Mall, where parking IS very plentiful and the sound system is obvious top-notch.
Re:Notes on the trailer (Score:1)
Works for me: RH7,NS4.76, flash, real (Score:1)
Egad! What if these movies suck? (Score:1)
I'm a big weeping baby... (Score:2)
And tears well up in my eyes... it's like the first time I heard Yes play The Revealing Science of God [amazon.com] live...
This has got to be the most anticipated movie of my lifetime. Of course it will never live up to my expectations. As literature so often points out, it's the longing to have something that is the best experience. I don't know if thats true, but if it is Peter Jackson has just given me 11 months of bliss.
Re:Underscores in tripod names (Score:1)
Re:Here's the changes from the book (a little spoi (Score:2)
Thank Eru Ilúvatar! That weird section has kept me from re-reading the books for lo, these many years.
> 2) Arwen's character will be expanded. I'm not sure the implications of this, but some have said Arwen will be more like Xena: Warrior Princess.
Eru Ilúvatar, I hope like Angband not! Should we just stay home and watch Xena instead?
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Re:wow (Score:1)
That's because this is only a teaser. They'll have the two-minute "ruin the whole movie" version out later this year
like we don't know the story already anyway
Re:So what's with the "American Beauty" scene? (Score:1)
Unsure about that one, but the best I can come up with: it's a fantasy sequence designed to get around some of the huge narration involving her effect on the characters. Hey! just like in American Beauty!
a stretch to be sure, but in this case I'm trusting Mr. Jackson until he give's me reason not to.
Re:Notes on the trailer (Score:1)
not technically correct. Principal photography has been wrapped on all three (I think, if not it will be soon). but post production for each movie will take about 8-12 months due to the CGI effects involved.
It's a great way to make a series of movies as the actors won't appear to age 15 years from beginning to end (as in our other favorite trilogy) but it requires the commitment of big bucks up front. $365 million? If the first one flops there will be some very unhappy investors.
Re:About Eddings (Score:1)
Jordan is a bit better, the characters are bitchy and should be slapped. But the world is more complete.
But for the good stuff jump directly to Tad Williams or Robin Hobbs. (To mention two.)
Neet video - bad compression (Score:1)
Here's a mirror for the .mov and the .rm clips (Score:1)
Quicktime 5.54Mb [halo5.net]
RealMedia 3.69Mb [halo5.net]
Site dosen't work w/ Netscape 4.x on Linux (Score:1)
Wouldn't expect less though -- I used to work for the company that was contracted for the original lordoftherings.net site. (The site that got slashdotted with 8Mbps of traffic after the first trailer was released..) From my point of view at the time, it seemed the folks at New Line Cinema were complete retards when it came to anything that wasn't flash and wasn't mainstream.
So go figure..
I hope they don't mangle the story. (Score:3)
However, someone will probably tamper with the script to add larger roles for female characters and this will ultimately serve to undermine the underlying themes. And this is only one example. I can think of many other ways they could screw it up.
In addition, a big problem with the other LOTR movie was the fact that too much time was spent on scenes that should have been fast and furious (the end of book 1 where Frodo is being chased toward the Ford by all 9 riders). This is a 3 minute scene in the movie, but I can read the entire sequence in the book in less time. Other scenes which explain the history and background of the entire legend that the story is about, will be quickly skimmed over, leaving out a great deal of information which is useful to digest the rest of the story with (the council meeting).
I DO believe a good movie can be made though. I just don't know if hollywood is capable of making it.
-Restil
Re:I'm a big weeping baby... (Score:1)
(defying the wrath of the gods)
Me too.
A.
LOTR parody (Score:3)
So what's with the "American Beauty" scene? (Score:2)
I actually preferred the older teaser-trailer to this one. (I too saw it in the theaters.) There was more homage paid to the story in the previous trailer.
This trailer didn't mention Tolkien's name at all, aloud or on the screen.
Also, having read LOTR over and over again since I was a child, as well as The Silmarillion and other works so many times I can almost recite major passages, I am fairly certain that Arwen never rolls around on a bed of rose petals, eyes closed and smiling dreamily. Or if she did, Tolkien never told anyone. Except for maybe his wife.
Re:Women (Score:1)
"Why, I was a fightin' Orcs in 19 and 82, when you was sucking your mama's teet, boy."
Re:Women (Score:1)
I was saying this in reference to watching the film preview that this story is about. It seemed to show women in the story a lot more female presence than there were, and I was concerned about the Hollywoodification of the books by sticking pretty women in where they have nothing to do with the story.
My best example is Schindler's List. It was supposed to be a serious movie about a guy saving Jews from the Nazi's, yet they had to put in a beautiful girl in a wet nightgown scene. That had no purpose in the movie except to titilate. Did the Nazis have sex with some of the pretty concentration camp women? I am sure they did. Is the best way to represent this is to show a close up of water pooring over an erect nipple under a see through nighty? I find it insulting to the situation and my intelligence. "Look, a titty. Giggle, giggle."
If I want to see T & A I know where to find it, I'm don't want to see it in Schindlers List. Or LOTR for that matter.
If I were to cut down LOTR to short synopsis, no female characters would merit mention, yet they are prominent in the preview. I wanted to know if someone else was familiar with the script they used to know whether this was the case in or not.
Women (Score:2)
My gripe is there seemed to be a few hot chicks walking around in that clip. Did they decide the books needed help and Frodo needs a love interest?
Does anyone have any idea how faithfull it is to the books? I defended the movie in a previous discussion saying that for times sake, they couldn't put every line in the book in the movie or it would be 34 hours long. However, if they start throwing a bunch of Hollywood shit in there, I'm going to be pissed. Maybe they go visit Castle Anthrax and give out good spankings.
Elijah Wood as Bilbo Baggins (Score:1)
Widely regarded as one of the most gifted actors of his generation, Elijah Wood continues to challenge himself with roles in films spanning the spectrum of style and genre.
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Wood's impressive list of film credits include Alan Shapiro's "Flipper" with Paul Hogan
Please. Flipper? I made a vow never to watch another dolphin movie after that one.
Re:Elijah Wood as Bilbo Baggins (Score:1)
+5 Free Karma! (Score:3)
Mike.
Re:Neet video - bad compression (Score:1)
Yep, especially the Sorenson codec that's included in Quicktime 5 (still in beta [apple.com]). The thing that impresses me most about it is that older trailers and clips that I have sitting around on my HD look so much better with the new decoder, even though they're exactly the same data! I always thought the real burden for video quality was on the encoder, but in the case of Sorenson at least, a new & improved decoder can make a big difference, too.
Re:wow (Score:1)
Slightly off-topic: the Metreon sucks in my opinion. Great sound, but crappy picture quality. If you want to see the best theater in the Bay Area, try the Century 25 [centurytheaters.com]. It may be a long drive for you, but it's worth it. It's just about the only theater around here that I've seen which actually meets SMPTE recommended brightness levels. Most theater owners have gotten so cheap these days that they are unwilling to buy high enough powered lamps to adequately light their screens. Once you see a movie projected at proper brightness, you'll be saying to yourself, "You mean movies are supposed to be that bright?" You won't want to go back to seeing movies on underlit screens anymore.
Also of note is the fact that Century generally has no advertising before the movie, other than previews. They also take very good care of their film prints. I went to see "Gladiator" at the Century 25 last year a full two and a half months after it was first released, and their print was still in mint condition. No scratches, no dirt. A rare thing these days.
Re:Also... (Score:1)
Re:Neet video - bad compression (Score:1)
Most likely. That's fine with me, since I hate compression artifacts.
<sarcasm>
I can't wait until film in theaters gets replaced by compressed digital video beamed in by satellite, in which case no matter where I watch a movie, on DVD, in theaters, anywhere -- I'll get to see those lovely compression artifacts all the time. Joy!
</sarcasm>
Obviously you got it somehow.
Well, I have it because I work at Apple, and the internal builds of MacOS X all come with QT5. ;v) I haven't bothered trying to get it from the external website yet. If there's a problem, try e-mailing the webmaster. I'll try it myself, and if it doesn't work for me, I'll find somebody to gripe to...
Re:wow (Score:1)
I noticed somebody complaining about the lighting of that final shot on the message board at TheOneRing's SFX page [theonering.net]. It's obviously artificial lighting, and not filmed outdoors (the background's been added in), but I think that just contributes to the "fantasy" feel. I wouldn't want it to look like a nature documentary.
He's also a nice guy, I had dinner with him in Wellington a few years ago...
Really? Wow, do you work in the movie industry?
Re:So what's with the "American Beauty" scene? (Score:1)
Maybe they figure audiences in theaters will be turned off if they mention books.
Re:wow (Score:2)
I've complained to THX a whole bunch of times, but to no avail. Apparently, as long as Sony pays their fee for using the THX name, Lucasfilm is happy. I think Century does a good job because they want to, not because THX makes them.
The new Century 20 at the so-called "Great Mall" is pretty nice, but the auditoriums are a lot smaller than the ones at the Century 25 at Union City. I hate it when the screen is below a certain size, because then the little perforations in the screen's surface become objectionable. Still, I'd rather go the the Century Great Mall than most other places.
Also of note is the Century 16 on Shoreline Blvd. in Mountain View (your town!). True, they don't have stadium seating or THX, but they still do a very good job. And unlike the Union City or Great Mall theaters, their screens are "maxed out" for a 2.39:1 image, rather than a 1.85:1 image. That is, they use masking on the sides for 1.85 movies instead of masking on the top for 2.39 movies. That's the way it should be in all theaters.
Re:Also... (Score:2)
Just because you're too damned stupid to know what I'm talking about does not make me a troll!!
Re:Neet video - bad compression (Score:2)
Also... (Score:4)
BTW, did anyone else find it strange that even though the movie is being shot with spherical lenses, all the computer-generated lens flares in the trailer are oval-shaped (like those produced by anamorphic lenses)? A minor detail, but it's a tad sloppy. I would have expected them to be more careful about little things like that...
Re:Notes on the trailer (Score:2)
If your still awake in California.. (Score:1)
Or living ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD, like for instance London, where its 10am here now...
Note to slashdot editors.. Like it on not, you run an international, 24x7 website.
Not posting anonymously, cause i stand by my statments.
Underscores in tripod names (Score:1)
Unfortunately, Tripod allows users to pick names which contain underscores [lycos.com], and then uses them as labels within the DNS; this is in contravention of RFC 1034 [landfield.com] sec 3.5, which states:
This doesn't often cause much of a problem for most people, since most systems are properly "liberal in what they accept, and conservative in what they send" [faqs.org]; however, in my experience, some systems have problems with the broken names, notably some firewall software.
I suppose somebody should point this out to Tripod, really.
M
Notes on the trailer (Score:4)
1. Looks nice. Seamless effects, has that "big-budget" look. As long as they don't mangle the story, this could be great.
2. I didn't know, but it's a trilogy! Three movies, each to be released at Christmas a year apart. The Fellowship of the Ring 2001, The Two Towers 2002, The Return of the King 2003. Enough screen time to do the story right? Maybe... I hope so!
3. There is a review [aint-it-cool-news.com] of this trailer on Ain't It Cool News [aint-it-cool-news.com].
4. It made me want to pull the books out and read them again!
steveha
Re:The music... (Score:2)
Re:Unsolicited whining about RealPlayer (Score:2)
If you want them not to use Real or Quicktime (Sorenson, in particular) then don't install their player and write to the site maintainers and request the video in an easier-to-deal-with format like MPEG, DivX;-), or AVI. Perhaps they'll blow you off, perhaps they'll think about it (what's 30MB more and less bandwidth wasteage since people can download it only once if they want to see it over and over?). Either way, as long as you'll go through the trouble to use their product, they'll make it and others will use it.
Trailer in the UK as well (Score:1)
Re:Neet video - bad compression (Score:1)
I can't download it, it keeps saying I havn't selected an OS (bloody well did so), I've tried NS and IE, the internet install and the standalone install. All the same.
Obviously you got it somehow. Anyone else have the same problem?
Unsolicited whining about RealPlayer (Score:2)
Remember when Real were the good guys? I just had to reinstall the RealPlayer because my beta had expired. After 5 minutes of downloading, installing, disabling startcenter, disabling automatic desktop icons, unselecting email notification (luckily, sales@real.com was accepted), dumping the 'content panel' (which is the crap that goes around the content), getting rid of the the ad bar, keeping Realplayer (tm) from being the default media player for every fricking type multimedia file, denying the right to set inbc.com or real.com as my home page, and stopping the automatic "welcome to Real" movie, I was sent to a real.com web page.
When I finally got to the trailer, it luckily wasn't /.ed yet. Don't these companies REALize that if they put their media in non-proprietary formats, it might be cheaper and better for both them and their targeted audience? Too bad there aren't any commonly used, stable, high-quality, free, FREE media formats out there.
Re:I hope they don't mangle the story. (Score:1)
Some of us hadnt finished the books yet, you dirty, dirty whore.
Re:wow (Score:1)
As for the advertising problem, I solved it by playing video games until 2min before it started.
What was funny was that they started the previews with half the projector lense blocked and everyone had to yell to get it fixed. Also, the overhead lights didn't dim until the movie itself started, and never turned all the way off.
Overall, though, my Metreon experiences have always been pretty good, and they're considerably more pleasant than the AMC 24 on Van Ness (dunno why... I do know that the walk is somewhat nicer (that means less scary people)). And once it got going it was perfectly fine.
Oh oh oh oh oh! I soooo want to see "Enemy at the Gates"!
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wow (Score:5)
Anyway, the preview was very nicely done. Starts off showing a ring floating, spinning, et cetera, with the narrator saying the "one ring to..." poem. It had a different tone than I would have imagined, but it was nicely done. Additionally, they did some effects as the ring came to rest in a hand (whose, I don't know). It's hard to describe, but it looks like the magical powers of the Ring will be conveyed quite well.
They went on to show some epic scenes of the band wandering along. There wasn't much of Gandalf, but there was a quick shot of him slamming down his staff with some resulting lightning flashies. I recognized Legolas, Gimli, and the hobbits, plus a short narration by someone I presumed to be the Lady Galadriel, who seemed to be portrayed quite well (beautiful, poised, etc).
There were a few quick scenes with the Nazgul, as well as one breathtaking shot of a tremendously large army (of Orcs) swooping over the plains. To be quite honest, the preview itself was rather disappointing, but as the story itself is already known, it didn't matter so much. I'm looking forward to the movie(s) a lot; this did a great job of whetting my appetite.
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Before you watch the movie ..... (Score:1)
Re:The LoTR - Deviating from fantasy, becoming fac (Score:2)
Personally, i don't care all that much...i like to see what other people imagined in the book, especially if they took 368 million dollars to find what it should look like.
Re:Unsolicited whining about RealPlayer (Score:1)
I mean yes, they have a player for Linux (a hardly ever updated, propietary player) and yes, they got screwed by Micro$oft, but thats about the only reason I can think you believe they were good guys...
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C'mon, flame me!
Re:Other movies I'd like to see... (Score:1)
Yuck!!!!
Well, you could be forgiven if you are a teenager... Only at that age you can digest such a soap-opera...
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C'mon, flame me!
Re:Women (Score:1)
Another chick to expect is Eowyn, slayer of the King of Angmar, in Return of the King.
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LOTR & super bowl (Score:1)
*shrug*
e.
www.randomdrivel.com [randomdrivel.com] -- All that is NOT fit to link to
Re:I think I speak for us all when I ask ... (Score:1)
Re:Not everything is in the USA (Score:2)
Re:Notes on the trailer (Score:1)
And most probably the best thing is that all three movies are about done and could be released at once. But... well, I just started reading Eddings' Belgariad and it's probably going to be a long time until I finally get back to Tolkien. After all, his work didn't have that enormous immersive effect I'm experiencing now.
I come to think Tolkien isn't the best fantasy author around and the movie isn't going to improve that. (TrollTrollTroll) To be honest, I'm thinking about not seeing it. The books are great and leave a lot of things to the reader's imagination; I wouldn't want to lose what I made up when I read it (german translation and english - it is a big difference!).
About Eddings (Score:1)
Afer all, don't misunderstand me. I never wanted to say Tolkien did just waste a bunch of paper. His books are still the foundation on "modern" fantasy. It's just a matter of personal preference.
BTW, I lost about a week's woth of sleep on the first 4 books. I never dared reading LOtR in bed because of fearing missing some important part of the story. I always read during the afternoon while I was still fully awake.
Re:Other movies I'd like to see... (Score:1)
Re:Women (Score:1)
Here's the changes from the book (a little spoily) (Score:5)
1) There will be no Tom Bombadil in the movie, that part of the plot will be left out.
2) Arwen's character will be expanded. I'm not sure the implications of this, but some have said Arwen will be more like Xena: Warrior Princess. This is probably an exagerration. In addition, the relationship between Arwen and Aragorn will be seen more often, and sooner than it surfaces in the books.
3) Some of the events that are told about (such as the fight between Saruman and Gandalf) will happen real-time in the movies, rather than 'as told by Gandalf'.
4) a few minor characters will be left out, and a few will be added.
5) the scouring of the shire will be rather different, though it is not certain how.
For more stuff like this, there's about a dozen LotR movie fanatic pages, with all sorts of images and details.
Direct link to download it for offline watching? (Score:1)
Cheers!
Another streaming format but no player required (Score:1)
Re:Changes from the Book and Tom Bombadil (Score:1)
Re:Notes on the trailer (Score:2)
That's called "rotoscoping", and it was way overabused in Bakshi's LOTR.
I saw this as a kid, and it was horrible.
<AOL> ME TOO! </AOL>
Changes from the Book and Tom Bombadil (Score:2)
This may sound a bit funny coming from an agnostic semi-Wiccan like myself...But here I go. Tolkien was good buddies with C.S. Lewis, and a very religious Christian. Therefore The Lord of the Rings was written with heavy religious significance. Just like Star Wars it is meant to portray the struggle of good vs. evil. The character of Bombadil shows that there is a greater good; he can see through evil's best attempt at making things suck, if that makes sense.
I sure hope they decide to put him back.
Anyway I heard rumors of one more change: right after leaving Lothlorien, instead of merely following the Fellowship, Gollum attacks and attempts to take the ring. Perhaps he succeeds; I can not quite remember the rumor's exact wording.
Aciel
aciel@speakeasy.net
Not everything is in the USA (Score:1)
Other movies I'd like to see... (Score:1)
Red Hat sucks then. (Score:2)
Re:Site dosen't work w/ Netscape 4.x on Linux (Score:2)
try:
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Re:I hope they don't mangle the story. (Score:2)
I guess some compromises will inevitably be made, given the differing natures of the two media, but you may be pleasantly surprised, and perhaps even slightly reassured, as I was, by the answers to "fan questions" given by director Peter Jackson at the video archive [lordoftherings.net] part of the lotr site.
He specifically addresses some of these points: Council of Elrond is in the movie - though no doubt played for cinematic impact, for example. Also interesting were long and thoughtful answers on the thorny question of racist (and "patriarchal") interpretations of the original work.
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Re:Neet video - bad compression (Score:1)
Re:I hope they don't mangle the story. (Score:1)
Wow, I'm impressed... (Score:2)
Maybe they won't botch this like they did the DnD movie. :-)
Trailer... (Score:2)
This place [slashdot.org]
FP (Score:1)
Re:Notes on the trailer (Score:1)
They are generally stories about a small cadre of 'chosen ones' that usually overthrow the corrupt and weak government of their native land, and attempt to restore their race's past glory by leading a war of conquest against a degenerate, evil race of sub-humans.
Re:Elijah Wood as Bilbo Baggins (Score:1)
Now THERE'S a solid resolution! (grin) Not like you resolved to give up on porn or scifi flicks.
You're in trouble when Pam Anderson and Nikki Cox decide to do a lez scene in "Flipper's Revenge: The Tuna Industry Gets Canned" tho
Re:I hope they don't mangle the story. (Score:1)
Moz.
Re:Also... (Score:1)
Is that URL correct - my proxy complains about
the underscore. Other attempts to guess the URL
get me an error redirect from tripod.
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Re:Underscores in tripod names (Score:1)
Thanks.
PS. Posting from Tennenlohe, and I've been awake for _ages_. Miles from California (Hint: it's 13:12 here now)
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The LoTR - Deviating from fantasy, becoming fact. (Score:1)
The problem is that with so many different representations of the LoTR, its representative reality will become schismed, and we shall all suffer the consequences of the crack in the prevailing group think.
I call on the film makers to make the film as accurate as possible, and I hope they have, to avoid this most dangerous disaster.
Re:Elijah Wood as Bilbo Baggins (Score:1)
(I hear Ben has a talk-show now)
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Re:wow (Score:1)
Certainly improved since his braindead days of Tim (Lip)Balm ;)
-- Eat your greens or I'll hit you!
Re:I hope they don't mangle the story. (Score:1)
(ahh... what one can gleam from a slashdot history)
-- Eat your greens or I'll hit you!
Here's the ripped and zipped Realmovie (Score:2)